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Lessons From 50 Of The Worlds Greatest Minds with Jake Humphrey | E59
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The topics we talk about in this weeks episode titled - 'Lessons From 50 Of The Worlds Greatest Minds with Jake Humphrey' 0:00 Intro 01:00 What are the key lessons you've learnt in the last year 08:17 Your experience with failure and anxiety 25:40 What would you regret if you were to die today 29:11 Are successful people happy? 36:46 Burnout in the world of successful people 41:18 How do you deal with assholes 49:45 Do you get jealous? 56:52 Connecting with our audience 01:01:36 Tips for starting a podcast 01:09:41 How to contact high performance people 01:17:52 What are you working on? 01:22:51 The importance of consistency 01:24:32 Addressing the gender imbalance Listen on: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/6B1orifhY454ML3WIPoONS?si=V9M9FS3qSe6eA3Jv0NXJ-w Apple Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/e59-lessons-from-50-worlds-greatest-minds-jake-humphrey/id1291423644?i=1000501572133 My book pre-order: (UK, US, AUS, NZ Link) - http://hyperurl.co/xenkw2 (EU & Rest of the World Link) https://www.bookdepository.com/Happy-Sexy-Millionaire-Steven-Bartlett/9781529301496?ref=grid-view&qid=1610300058833&sr=1-2 FOLLOW ► Facebook: http://bit.ly/StevenBartlettFacebook Twitter: http://bit.ly/SteveSCTwitter Instagram: @steven Linkedin: http://bit.ly/StevenBartlettLinkedIn Sponsor - https://uk.huel.com/
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Introducing Jake Humphrey
In this segment, Steven Bartlett introduces Jake Humphrey, a returning guest known for his work as an entrepreneur, TV presenter, and podcaster. They discuss Jake's experiences interviewing high-performance individuals across various fields, setting the stage for a deep dive into the lessons learned from these conversations.
"this week on the diver ceo we have a returning guest jake humphreys he is an entrepreneur he is a tv presenter he's also now a podcaster and jake has spent the last year on his podcast sitting down wi..."
Key Lessons from High Performers
Jake shares the key lessons he's learned from interviewing high-performance individuals, highlighting a memorable quote from Matthew McConaughey: 'Don't leave crumbs.' This phrase emphasizes the importance of making decisions without leaving behind regrets or unresolved issues, applicable in both personal and professional contexts.
"you've um you've had what 30 people on your podcast today you've got a lot more coming up one of the key questions that i that i wanted to ask you because it's you know something that i asked myself i..."
The Importance of Decision-Making
In this segment, Jake elaborates on the significance of decision-making in high-stakes environments. He reflects on his own experiences, including a humorous anecdote about preparing for an interview with Matthew McConaughey, illustrating how leaving 'crumbs' can lead to unnecessary stress and complications.
"make sure that you don't have an extra drink and even in case it leaves you with a hangover tomorrow and you've got work to do or make sure you simply choose your clothes the night before so you're no..."
Learning from Mistakes
Jake discusses the commonality of mistakes among successful individuals, asserting that they often make more mistakes than others due to their willingness to take risks. He emphasizes the importance of learning from these mistakes rather than dwelling on them, promoting a growth mindset.
"negative comments that have come my way about the podcast direct messages from people saying um you're getting this all wrong we're in a global pandemic i'm having a really hard year and here you are ..."
The Challenge of Self-Criticism
In this segment, Jake reflects on his journey of self-criticism and how it has evolved over time. He shares insights on focusing on positive experiences rather than negative ones, aiming to cultivate a mindset that celebrates successes and learns from failures.
"honest with myself that i have weaknesses and i need to address them rather than thinking that everything's fine and i am notoriously late i am always a few minutes late and always my new year's resol..."
Embracing Failure
Jake and Steven discuss the societal obsession with failure and how it can hinder personal growth. They explore the idea of embracing failure as a necessary part of the learning process, encouraging listeners to adopt a more positive outlook on their setbacks.
"emotionally feel about the fact that you have blind spots in terms of like do you beat yourself up about it yeah yeah i think so yeah um i think it's a really common phrase isn't it to hear that you'r..."
The Power of Perspective
In this segment, Steven shares his perspective on handling crises and failures. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a rational mindset during chaotic situations, illustrating how emotional detachment can lead to better decision-making and problem-solving.
"i don't understand he's like i'm not interested in sitting here and going through all the good stuff how does going through the good stuff make the boat go faster why are we not talking about the bad ..."
Rational Decision-Making
Jake discusses the importance of rational decision-making in the face of challenges. He shares a personal anecdote about a crisis at his marketing agency, highlighting how assessing probabilities can lead to more effective solutions and reduce unnecessary panic.
"2020 we've all had i feel we've become a nation maybe even a planet with this light obsession on failure to not fail anymore to be good and it's almost like a badge of honor isn't it like i'm sure if ..."
Balancing Duty of Care
In this segment, Steven and Jake explore the balance between a duty of care to clients and the potential risks involved in communication. They discuss how emotional responses can cloud judgment and the importance of maintaining a rational perspective when addressing client concerns.
"and to be honest a lot of them no i think it's just my worst days as if i'm playing a video game and that i am i am not what's happening and it's and i i think that detachment from what's happening ha..."
Managing Client Anxiety
In this segment, Jake Humphrey discusses a critical moment involving a client whose passwords were exposed. He emphasizes the importance of rational decision-making over emotional responses when dealing with potential harm to clients. By suggesting a proactive approach like implementing two-factor authentication, he illustrates how to balance duty of care with business interests.
"of my clients now and tell them that all of their passwords have been exposed so i said let's go through the probabilities here if you lined up a hundred people like the guy that might have seen these..."
The Weight of Worry
Jake shares his personal experiences with anxiety, particularly the irrational fears he faced as a child and how they persist into adulthood. He reflects on the emotional turmoil that arises from worrying about loved ones and how understanding these feelings has helped him manage his anxiety better.
"important to have like i've always had like this irrational fear of imminent disaster so when i was a kid i used to come in from school my mom would go and walk the dog and she might be 15 or 20 minut..."
Understanding Personal Anxiety
In this introspective segment, Jake delves into the roots of his anxiety and how it manifests in his life. He discusses the importance of self-awareness and recognizing irrational thoughts, which allows him to take responsibility for his emotional responses and reduce unnecessary stress.
"because there is no skeleton in the closet like a friend rang me the other day and the message that you gave me was he's separating from his wife which is massively sad but he rang me and said listen ..."
The Impact of External Criticism
Jake reflects on how external criticism affects him, revealing the struggle between wanting to please others and staying true to his values. He discusses the challenge of balancing public perception with personal integrity, especially in the context of his podcast and its mission to empower listeners.
"jake so we're on the fourth floor here and uh jake jake came up uh knocked on the door looking pretty sweaty and said uh i just took breath he said i just took the stairs because i opened the lift and..."
Redefining Success and Happiness
In this segment, Jake and his guest explore the relationship between hard work, success, and happiness. They discuss the misconception that struggle is necessary for achievement and emphasize the importance of redefining success to include personal happiness and fulfillment.
"read where people are like jake you know you shouldn't be doing a podca happy podcasting sad times basically yeah the fact that you remembered that and you referred to it as hurting you seems also som..."
The Truth About Hard Work
Jake shares insights on the misconception that hard work must be accompanied by struggle. He emphasizes that while dedication is essential, it should not come at the cost of personal happiness. This segment challenges the traditional narrative around success and encourages a more balanced approach.
"to go and be successful i honestly believe it like it comes you've got thousands and thousands and thousands of reviews on your podcast yeah it's rated five stars people pour their heart out telling y..."
Lessons from Johnny Wilkinson
Jake discusses a profound lesson learned from Johnny Wilkinson, who equates the significance of winning a rugby world cup to mundane tasks like washing dishes. This perspective shift highlights the importance of valuing all aspects of life equally, regardless of societal accolades.
"help us to film and edit the podcast together all of us totally believe and buy into what we're doing like i genuinely think that it is what people need to hear because it is empowering people and do ..."
The Burden of Success
In this reflective segment, Jake contemplates the pressures that come with success and the mental health implications of striving for achievement. He shares how the narrative around struggle can lead to increased stress and anxiety, advocating for a healthier approach to success.
"but i think that for me the sort of the real the real revelation that came out of the johnny wilkinson episode and what i really want people to understand if they listen to it is that when you strip e..."
Finding Balance in High Performance
Jake emphasizes the need to detach hard work from happiness, advocating for a balanced approach to high performance. He discusses the importance of being present and enjoying the journey rather than solely focusing on outcomes, which can lead to a more fulfilling life.
"podcast to give to people it's tough isn't it because it's hard to find someone who's been really successful at the very top of their game whether it's business or sport hasn't done that yeah so i've ..."
The Power of Presence
In this closing segment, Jake reflects on the significance of being fully present in the moment. He shares how this mindset shift has transformed his interactions and overall outlook on life, reinforcing the idea that true happiness comes from mindfulness and engagement with the present.
"circlive woodward or um any anyone in it that's a very consistent theme elon musk right but it but what i've come to do over the years is detach that from happiness first and foremost because it doesn..."
Regrets and Relationships
Jake shares his thoughts on what he would regret if he were to die today, focusing on the importance of traveling with his children and maintaining relationships. He reflects on his past experiences and how they have shaped his present, acknowledging that being fully present in each moment is crucial, yet he struggles with maintaining long-term friendships due to his intense focus on work.
"now i sit and talk to you maybe this whole thing is like a totally selfish exercise for me because i must have said four or five times that this podcast has rewritten the way that i see the world and ..."
The Balance of Commitment
In this segment, Jake discusses the balance between being committed to his work and nurturing personal relationships. He acknowledges that while he is deeply invested in his various roles, this can sometimes lead to neglecting friendships. He contemplates whether it's necessary to hold onto relationships for a long time or if it's acceptable for people to come and go in life.
"and my my new colleagues and you know i had a conversation with someone the other day and they said you know like who you who are your real friends it's a hard question that for me once i moved beyond..."
Defining Happiness
Jake reflects on the societal expectations of happiness and success, asserting that true happiness should be the ultimate goal. He shares his personal journey of finding joy in his work and life, contrasting it with the pressures to conform to societal norms about friendship and success.
"goal then you know society will tell you to live have loads of friends and do this and have this car and whatever but then the question the most important is be happy happiest i've ever been i've been..."
The Illusion of Success
In this thought-provoking segment, Jake discusses the misconception that success and happiness are mutually exclusive. He shares insights from his podcast guests, revealing that many successful individuals may not be truly happy. He emphasizes the importance of enjoying the journey rather than solely focusing on the destination.
"story about cutting off two of his big businesses because he was giving a b to five things and he wanted to be an a in three things the guests you've had on your podcast all these wonderful people you..."
Childhood Influences on Success
Jake explores how childhood experiences shape adult ambitions and perceptions of happiness. He shares stories from his podcast guests, illustrating how past traumas can drive individuals to achieve great success, yet may leave them feeling unfulfilled. This segment delves into the complex relationship between personal history and professional aspirations.
"happy and he is also totally comfortable with not being happy now that's not everyone's story that's his story um but i certainly think that we like in the past we've thought that success and happines..."
The Journey Over the Destination
In this reflective segment, Jake emphasizes the importance of valuing the journey rather than fixating on the end goal. He shares a personal anecdote about his first car, illustrating how the thrill of the journey often outweighs the material successes achieved later in life. This perspective encourages listeners to appreciate the process of growth and achievement.
"in in never as good as you think it would be though you know when you get when you achieve those things that you want to achieve like the the biggest thrill i've ever had was when i spent 9 750 pounds..."
The Value of Experience
Jake discusses the thrill of the journey compared to the allure of financial success. He reflects on his past struggles and how they shaped his current perspective on happiness and fulfillment. This segment highlights the importance of experiences and relationships over material wealth, encouraging listeners to focus on what truly matters in life.
"like you have to answer this totally honestly you have you've totally left social change now yeah with money in the bank yeah that you wouldn't have had if you hadn't walked away from that business ri..."
Burnout and Passion
In this segment, Jake and his guest discuss the topic of burnout, particularly in relation to doing work that one does not love. They explore how intrinsic motivation and passion can prevent burnout, emphasizing the importance of enjoying what you do and the people you work with. This conversation sheds light on the necessity of aligning personal values with professional endeavors.
"know you need to have the bad times to appreciate the good times and um the the the traumas and the difficult things will will equip you for the rest of your life i honestly know that there are people..."
The Importance of Passion
Jake discusses the significance of pursuing work that you love and the impact it has on preventing burnout. He argues that burnout is often a result of engaging in activities that lack intrinsic motivation, and he emphasizes the need to surround oneself with people who inspire and uplift you, reinforcing the idea that passion fuels success.
"there and goes you can get through it and you can use it as a flame and a fire that is i think when you listen um it's um i i have to say i also completely agree that uh you know the things that have ..."
Recognizing Burnout
In this segment, the conversation shifts to the topic of burnout, particularly among successful individuals. Jake reflects on why burnout may not often come up in discussions with high achievers, suggesting that those who are passionate about their work are less likely to experience it. He highlights the importance of aligning one's work with personal values to maintain enthusiasm.
"um but is burn out a topic that's been sort of prevalent on your podcast no you know it i suppose partly the reason why burnout hasn't come up very often is because we're talking to people who are in ..."
Finding Your Passion
Jake shares insights on how to discover one's true passions by identifying what drains energy versus what invigorates it. He encourages listeners to reflect on their experiences and relationships to uncover what truly resonates with them, suggesting that understanding what you dislike can lead to clarity about what you genuinely love.
"passion is everything you know you say you spoke to eddie hearn what's his what's his podcast no passion no point i mean he is a great advocate of finding something that you believe in but i also get ..."
The Nature of Love and Passion
In a heartfelt analogy, Jake compares the experience of parental love to the nature of passion. He explains how love can expand without diminishing, paralleling this with how passion can grow and evolve. This segment emphasizes that true passion can fill you with energy and motivation, making every day fulfilling.
"have problems but i think with real passion i don't think you suffer burnout because every day i seem to get this like so you've not got kids yet right but when you do you have argument you have a bea..."
Dealing with Difficult People
Jake and his guest discuss their experiences with challenging personalities in their careers. They share anecdotes about encounters with difficult individuals and the importance of maintaining composure and professionalism. This segment highlights the value of setting boundaries and the impact of negative behavior on personal well-being.
"you know i don't feel like i'm like the cup is draining slowly because i love the stuff that i'm doing and that's a great point because i think people tend to believe that passion is a singular thing ..."
The Power of Positive Relationships
In this segment, Jake emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with positive influences. He discusses how meaningful relationships can uplift and inspire, while toxic interactions can drain energy. The conversation encourages listeners to cultivate a supportive network that fosters growth and positivity.
"i i do relate to that somewhat the people that i really struggle with in my life are the people who one day you see them and they're like your best mate the next day it's like you've never met them be..."
Navigating Professional Relationships
Jake reflects on the dynamics of professional relationships, particularly how people may behave differently based on perceived status. He shares personal experiences of meeting individuals who treat him differently when they realize his professional background, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and respect in all interactions.
"think um what made you what made you ask that i just i just one of the things i i could you know what it is i remembered one day you meet a lot of people and when you do this podcasting thing and you ..."
The Impact of Negativity
In this concluding segment, Jake discusses the detrimental effects of negativity and criticism in personal and professional circles. He advocates for a positive mindset and encourages listeners to focus on uplifting those around them. This segment reinforces the idea that small acts of kindness can create a ripple effect of positivity.
"and also the you know hundreds of thousand people that i'm telling right now um if you got to the point though where you're brave enough to call that sort of stuff out because i think that is the impo..."
The Power of Positivity
In this segment, Jake Humphrey discusses the importance of radiating positive energy within your immediate circle. He emphasizes that by lifting others up and fostering a supportive environment, we can create a ripple effect of positivity. This approach counters negativity and criticism, which he believes have no place in a fulfilling life.
"yes i think it is because you just treat everyone the same man and they're treating you well because you can potentially benefit them in some way i don't know it's weird isn't it like why i've got a j..."
Understanding Jealousy
Jake opens up about experiencing jealousy, particularly through comparison, and reflects on its innate nature in humans. He shares personal anecdotes about his journey from feeling inferior to sitting alongside famous footballers, illustrating how life trajectories can change unexpectedly. This segment explores the concept of jealousy and the importance of focusing on one's own path.
"the only agreement is that they have to do the same and you say that to those people listen i'm going to do this thing i'm going to be really super positive and i'm going to do everything i can to hel..."
The Illusion of Perfection on Social Media
In this candid discussion, Jake critiques the unrealistic portrayals of life on social media, particularly Instagram. He shares a personal story about a family outing that appeared perfect online but was filled with stress in reality. This segment highlights the disparity between curated online images and the true nature of everyday life, encouraging authenticity.
"yeah but you've got but i think that is innate i think that is almost there i am giving up responsibility again for someone that talks about 100 responsibility but i think that it's innate in human na..."
The Value of Realness in Personal Branding
Jake emphasizes the importance of authenticity in personal branding, contrasting it with the often superficial nature of social media. He discusses how sharing genuine experiences, including struggles, can foster deeper connections with audiences. This segment advocates for a more honest representation of oneself to build a loyal community.
"and i'm we're jealous of that i'm not jealous we're guilty of it making other people jealous of what we do but we went out for uh we went for a couple of days away as a family to a lovely hotel called..."
The Emotional Impact of Podcasting
In this reflective segment, Jake shares the profound emotional connections he has formed through his podcast. He discusses the fulfillment that comes from receiving heartfelt feedback from listeners who have been inspired to make significant life changes. This highlights the unique depth of engagement that podcasting offers compared to traditional broadcasting.
"supply is super low and uh and people joe wicks is the same he he will he will tell you everything i feel like [ __ ] today you know and people just and that's the thing i think you can form a bond wi..."
Starting Your Own Podcast
In this segment, Jake shares his insights on starting a podcast, emphasizing the importance of ownership and passion. He recounts his journey into podcasting and encourages aspiring podcasters to take the leap despite the saturated market, highlighting that everyone has a unique voice to share.
"conversation with him yeah i think all of all of the guests i've had that have um moved me in the same way is almost identical it's nice isn't it i don't know whether you're like this with podcasts bu..."
Overcoming the Fear of Starting
Humphrey discusses the common fears and procrastination that prevent people from starting their own podcasts or businesses. He stresses the importance of taking action and not overthinking, sharing his own experiences of starting with minimal resources and learning along the way.
"first of all go for it because i honestly what i honestly was this close to not doing it the great thing about podcasts that you that i didn't have in my life was ownership so i'd spent my career work..."
The Power of Passion in Podcasting
Jake emphasizes the significance of passion and specificity in podcasting. He advises aspiring podcasters to focus on their unique interests and to conduct thorough research on their guests to create engaging and meaningful conversations that resonate with audiences.
"speak to elite performers and elite thinkers because i think that everyone can benefit from that everyone can think and operate and perform better because there's no tricks there's no secrets like you..."
Building Connections Through Podcasting
In this segment, Humphrey talks about the importance of building connections and relationships in the podcasting world. He shares his experiences of being approached by aspiring podcasters and the value of offering guidance and support to those starting their journeys.
"um so the first thing you is you have to do your podcast you have to go out and do it but the second and that's the biggest challenge though isn't it starting it's just in every facet of life yeah ent..."
The Ripple Effect of Mentorship
Jake discusses the long-term impact of mentorship and how small acts of kindness can lead to significant opportunities. He reflects on how giving time to others can create a ripple effect, inspiring them to pursue their passions and potentially leading to future collaborations.
"gratification but i think the other thing for it like i get a lot of i get a lot of people sending me letters saying i want to be on the television and i always reply in the positive because i always ..."
Invisible PR: The Long-Term Impact
Steven elaborates on the concept of 'invisible PR,' explaining how brief interactions can lead to unexpected opportunities. He shares an example of how a simple conversation can inspire someone to start their own business, ultimately leading to a future collaboration. This segment highlights the importance of recognizing the potential long-term value in seemingly trivial exchanges.
"people don't always look for like the instant value and stuff no i know that when someone rings you and goes um stephen i know i'm a social chain and i know i wasn't very high up the chain at social c..."
The Art of Asking
In this insightful discussion, Steven Bartlett addresses the art of asking for help or information in today's fast-paced digital world. He contrasts the ease of reaching out via social media with the effort it once took to connect with influential figures. Steven emphasizes that the quality of the request matters, and how thoughtful communication can set one apart in a sea of generic messages.
"i call it hand it out man invisible pr yeah you never see it in the moment you never see the impact it's having but when it matters the most it will show up so for example the guy told you about from ..."
Navigating Modern Communication
Steven reflects on the evolution of communication and how the lack of formality in social media has changed the way people seek information. He discusses the importance of effort in reaching out to others and how this effort can lead to more meaningful connections. This segment serves as a reminder of the value of persistence and respect in professional interactions.
"to the guy i saw it you're not fine got the video where i explained how i didn't i did what i did and i sent it to him he goes uh you know you should write a book i maybe he just doesn't yet know what..."
The Journey to Connection
In this segment, Steven Bartlett shares his thoughts on the journey it takes to connect with influential figures. He discusses how the challenges faced in reaching out can enhance the value of the connection once made. Steven emphasizes that those who truly want to connect will put in the effort, making the eventual relationship more meaningful.
"thousands of people like this on a weekly basis yeah so my my decision as to who to help or to who to engage with is based on the message they send and if someone says some people would message me go ..."
Consistency Over Intensity
Steven discusses the importance of consistency in achieving success, contrasting it with the common belief that intensity is key. He reflects on his own experiences and how maintaining consistent efforts has led to his accomplishments. This segment encourages viewers to focus on steady progress rather than sporadic bursts of effort.
"the opportunity because it had taken you two or three months just to get to the point of being able to send something part of the issue now is the people who want information from you literally this i..."
Building a Sustainable Future
In this segment, Steven introduces his investment in a sustainable eyewear brand, Coral. He shares the vision behind the brand, which focuses on using recycled materials to create high-quality eyewear. Steven emphasizes the importance of making environmentally conscious choices in consumer products and how Coral aims to lead the way in sustainable fashion.
"a lot of messages every day all of the same quality but that's great because it's easy to stand out if you want to say a good thing if you send me a voice note that jumps up in the queue if if the voi..."
Empowering Future Talent
Steven discusses his scholarship initiative aimed at supporting underrepresented students in the film and TV industry. He shares how this initiative aligns with his values of lifting others and providing opportunities for those who may not have access due to financial constraints. This segment highlights the importance of mentorship and investment in future talent.
"in the post and as i said to you before we got on out i'd usually look a little bit weird in sunglasses but this pair of sunglasses and i'm not just saying this and i actually said this behind your ba..."
Innovating Eyewear for the Planet
In this segment, Steven elaborates on the innovative approach of Coral eyewear, which utilizes recycled materials to create stylish and sustainable products. He discusses the challenges and potential of the brand in a market dominated by traditional eyewear. This segment emphasizes the need for creativity and sustainability in modern business practices.
"so i set that up and then i had this great relationship with the uea and they introduced me to a young guy called george bailey and he's a 19 year old student he's 20 now at the uea and he had this id..."
Quality Meets Sustainability
Steven highlights the importance of maintaining high quality in sustainable products. He discusses how Coral eyewear aims to provide luxury and style while being environmentally friendly. This segment reinforces the idea that consumers should not have to compromise on quality when choosing sustainable options.
"straight on the phone to george i said listen we need to make this happen we really need to make this happen and we're not the only brand in the world making eyewear from recycled material but we're t..."
The Power of Honest Feedback
In this closing segment, Steven reflects on the value of honest feedback in personal and professional growth. He shares his belief that constructive criticism is often more valuable than praise. This segment encourages viewers to embrace honesty in their interactions and to seek out feedback as a tool for improvement.
"oh this case or this case yeah that's recycled plastic the cloth inside recycled plastic you'd never know would you no even one of the things that really struck me as well is how high quality it all f..."
Relentless Yet Happy
The conversation continues with a focus on the balance between being relentless in pursuit of goals while maintaining happiness. The speaker suggests that a relentless approach is necessary for success, but it should be paired with joy and passion in the work being done, encouraging listeners to strive for a fulfilling journey.
"um maybe from meeting exceptional guests maybe just from understanding the root cause of my own accomplishments but um i you know i used to think that intensity was was the answer but if you look at a..."
Addressing Gender Imbalance in Podcasting
This segment tackles the challenges of inviting female guests onto the podcast, highlighting the male dominance in high achievement discussions. The speaker expresses a commitment to uplifting female role models and acknowledges the need for more representation of women, particularly in leadership roles, to inspire future generations.
"we all are in 12 months time i have one more question for you it's probably a question people don't really talk about in the podcasting game but um we have struggled at times to get women to come on t..."
The Importance of Representation
The discussion shifts to the significance of representation in society, particularly for black women and other underrepresented groups. The speaker emphasizes the necessity of showcasing diverse role models to inspire young people and create a more equitable society, stressing that visibility is crucial for belief in one's potential.
"on the high performance podcast we are totally aware of that um and we will continue to do what we can because actually when we get brilliant female leaders on there and we just recorded with joe malo..."
Personal Growth Through Podcasting
In this reflective segment, the speaker shares insights gained from their podcasting journey, noting how it has contributed to their personal growth and understanding of others. They highlight the therapeutic nature of these conversations and the evolution of their perspective on success and achievement over time.
"once they're there they'll stay there and it'll be a much better more equal society for everyone we've both got a big responsibility yeah with our platforms yeah and it and we should we absolutely sho..."