"most people most of the time are polite cooperative and kind until they're not the following is a conversation with Rick Spence a historian specializing in the history of intelligence agencies Espiona..."

"Spence you have written and lectured about serial killers secret societies Cults and intelligence agencies so we can basically begin at uh any of these fascinating topics but let's begin with intellig..."

"wished I always wonder how much deliberate planning there is within an organization like aana or if there's kind of a distributed intelligence that happens well one of the key elements in any kind of ..."

"exposed what are some difference to you as uh we look at the history of the 20th century between the Russian intelligence and the American intelligence in the CIA if you look at both the oana and the ..."

"things I wonder how often those intelligence agencies in the 20th century and of course the natural question extending it to the 21st century how often they go to the assassination how how often they ..."

"the topic of money ideology coercion and ego let me ask you about a conspiracy theory so there is a conspiracy theory that the CIA is behind Jeffrey Epstein at a high level if you could just talk abou..."

"jump into the present uh with the Bohemian Grove and the Bilderberg gr bilderbergers uh so the elites as I think you've referred to them so this Gathering of the elites uh can you can you just talk ab..."

"you've studied a lot a lot of Cults and uh occultism what do you think is the power of that mystical experience well what is broadly referred to well we get into what what's a ult is and what's the oc..."

"the beginning of the 20th century on the German side you've described how secret societies like the Tuli Society lay the foundation for Nazi ideology can you uh through that lens from that perspective..."

"protocols of the Elders of Zion it's why they considered to be the most influential work of anti-Semitism ever perhaps uh can you describe this text well the protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is..."

"speaking of the Tipping Point you gave a series of lectures on murderers crimes in the 20th century one of the crimes that you describe is the Manson family murders and that combines a lot of the elem..."

"few crimes around this time so the Zodiac Killer well California what I'm from okay sorry remember this period vividly okay so by the way the the Tate La Bianca killings occurred on my birthday the ye..."

"secret societies you've gave a lot of amazing lectures on secret societies uh it's fascinating to look at human history through the lens of secret societies cuz they've permeated all of human history ..."

"the to put a crudely The Branding is a really powerful one it and so it it makes sense that it can there's a thread connecting it to this day that a lot of organizations a lot of secret societies can ..."