"In the in the football career, you go through a lot ups and downs and a lot of uh difficult moments. And uh let's say the ones that suffered most family, they um they see your good moments, your bad m..."

">> Bruno. To understand somebody, I always think you have to start with where they started and the the early context that they grew up in. And we were just talking before we started recording about Po..."

">> The older I've gotten, I'm now 33, so I think I'm 2 years older than you, the more I've realized actually with time what I learned from my parents and like the values that my dad in particular gave..."

">> Yeah, five. >> And were you good from 5 years old? Were you were you different from your peers at a young age? In such a young age, I I never think about being a footballer. I just wanted to play f..."

"remarkable things I noticed when I looked at you starting playing at 5 years old getting promoted to an older team and then quickly almost in all the clubs, you know, up I'm looking at when you were 1..."

"you're 18 years old what are your dreams and if I'd asked you at the time what does your future look like what would you have said to me >> as soon I I became a professional player I I was like I want..."

">> And at 22, you get a call um and you returned to Portugal and signed a 5-year deal with Sporting in a deal worth reportedly 8.5 million. That next season, you scored 20 goals and added 13 assists, ..."

">> Tell me about that call cuz I know Manchester United has has been you know in your eye for a long time. I mean you I know you grew up watching people like Cristiano Ronaldo play for this club and I..."

"so much. So my question to you is really about the cultural evolution at this club and what the fans are desperate to know about like how it's changed and how it feels different from the time you arri..."

"I've noticed as a change, especially this season, is all this social media distraction. People posting on their Instagram stories when they don't play their brother's sister posting my brother should ..."

">> And it's true because, you know, you've been through this this process of transition with Ollie, then Carrick, then Raph, then Eric, then Reuben, then Fletcher, then Carrick again. And actually, on..."

">> What have you learned about what a good manager does and how to be a good manager from the six managers you've had? >> For me, look, through my career, I've always heard that, you know, like certai..."

">> So do you treat players differently on the pitch because you're you know you shout at lots of your teammates. Are there some that you won't shout at as much? I treat I treat all of them the same an..."

"time at Manchester United has been a bit of a roller coaster like this kind of like up and down and up and down. You went second and then you dropped down the league you're second and uh I mean the la..."

">> What did Michael change? I think in in the first moment what what what Michael tried to do is like to give stability to the team because as every manager understands when you come in after a break,..."

"interesting because it when I was looking at um a bunch of your quotes over time, but also how I think about business. You are a player that takes more risks than most people. And we talk a lot about ..."

">> I've spent the last decade building and investing in companies and so often the conversation around marketing budgets follows the exact same pattern. The budget gets approved, but then the results ..."

"I think the positions where I can be more effective is this square. Let's say here I would say let's let's put it like this. >> Okay. >> Yeah. No, just just need a square. >> Oh, you just need a squar..."

">> It doesn't appear to me that you ever get tired. And also, one remarkable thing about you is you don't seem to ever get injured. >> I get tired and I got injured unfortunately. Oh, >> but how how d..."

"into that moment. >> These core principles that have been central to how you play have led you to being given this the captain's armband, which was quite there's lots of talk of it at the time because..."

"fans. And there's other awards that I know you've won in recent times. I saw you on stage the other day winning more awards. What has what's happened? Why why are you sudden you know you've had you've..."

"being captain and with being at the biggest club in the world. I think in terms of fan base, um with that comes pressure and responsibility, the world talks about you. You know, no matter what industr..."

">> Well, I am I I did actually ask your your teammates what you were like and uh I asked them on and off camera on and off the record. I couldn't get some of them to be very serious, but um what I wha..."

">> Why does that mean so much to you? I can see it in your face. >> No, because as I said to you, uh I think as a player you can be as good as you want. like uh at the end of the day I think the way y..."

"One thing I've learned from interviewing a lot of founders and building companies myself is that trust is the real currency of business. It's the thing that gets customers to buy, partners to say yes,..."

">> Uh I I said it before I I haven't fulfilled my dreams here, you know, at this club. >> Was that a conversation you had with your wife? >> Yeah, also >> what was that conversation? She seems to be t..."

"it's uh it's tough just because um in the in the football career you go through a lot ups and downs and a lot of uh difficult moments and uh let's say the ones that suffered most of them because they ..."

">> You said to me earlier that since Michael Carrick has joined, Man United have won more points than any club in the Premier League, and that's statistically accurate. For this to continue on and to ..."

">> Bruno, we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest not knowing who they're leaving the question for. And the question that's been left for ..."