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Julie Fredrickson is a former founder and the Managing Partner of Chaotic Capital, an “early stage fund for companies that adapt our lives and systems to the opportunities that chaos brings.” She joins the show to discuss the Great Weirding, becoming a playable character, how the market provides a muse, the power of preparation, and more! Important Links: - Website - https://jfredrickson.com/ - Twitter - https://twitter.com/AlmostMedia?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliefredrickson/ - Chaotic Capital - https://chaotic.capital - The Great Weirding - https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/the-great-weirding); by Venkatesh Rao - The Thinker and The Prover - https://thinkerandprover.com Show Notes: 0:00:00 Intro 0:00:47 Main podcast 0:01:27 Julie’s Origin Story 0:02:43 The Difference Between Hippies and Tech 0:04:41 “Circumstances change. Humanity does not. Plan accordingly.” 0:16:48 The Great Weirding 0:21:11 The Myth of the Perfect Past 0:23:56 How to Become a Playable Character 0:29:15 The Weirdo Lighthouse 0:35:24 The Power of Showing Up 0:40:11 How Julie Assesses Founders 0:45:48 Talent Doesn’t Matter 0:48:34 The Market is the Muse 0:53:08 “In the beginning, there was the word” 0:57:48 Preference Falsification vs. Revealed Preferences 1:02:00 Julie’s Revealed Preferences 1:07:57 “Prepare and the opportunity will come” 1:10:53 Silicon Valley Is an Idea, Not a Place 1:15:58 The Open-Source Ethos 1:27:44 Julie as Empress of the World Books Mentioned: - Bad Predictions: 2000 Years of the Best Minds Making the Worst Forecasts; by Laura Lee - The History of the Peloponnesian War; by Thucydides - Republic; by Plato - American Cycles of History: According to the Fourth Turning Generational Theory and The Boomer Soul 1946-2022; by William H. Van Marter Jr. - William Blake vs the World; by John Higgs - Julie, or the New Heloise; by Jean-Jacques Rousseau - The End of History and the Last Man; by Francis Fukuyama - The Peripheral; by William Gibson - Neuromancer; by William Gibson - The Fifth Science; by Exurb1a - The Science of Storytelling: Why Stories Make Us Human, and How To Tell Them Better; by Will Storr - Class: A Guide Through the American Status System; by Paul Fussell - What Works on Wall Street: The Classic Guide to the Best-Performing Investment Strategies of All Time; by Jim O’Shaughnessy - Singularity Sky; by Charles Stross - Marxism and Modernism; by Eugene Lunn - The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism; by Howard Bloom
Julie Fredrickson discusses the inherent unpredictability of human predictions and the constant nature of change. She emphasizes that while circumstances may shift, human nature remains unchanged, urging listeners to plan accordingly in a world of uncertainty.
"[Music] humans suck at making predictions like they really really suck at it the only constant we are ever engaging with is change Tech and Magic are just separated by layers of abstraction Joseph Cam..."
Julie shares her multifaceted origin story, highlighting her journey through various transformations over the years. She reflects on her upbringing in a family that blended hippie ideals with technical innovation, shaping her unique perspective on life and work.
"accordingly well hello everyone it's Jibo shasi with another episode of infinite Loops I have been waiting for this one because I get to talk all kinds of weird stuff uh with my friend Julie Frederick..."
Exploring the intersection of hippie culture and technology, Julie discusses the historical significance of the Whole Earth Catalog and its impact on Silicon Valley. She explains how both movements share a desire for agency and control over one's environment, fostering innovation.
"origin origin story is I'm a second generation Silicon Valley person my family moved from Colorado to California and uh wanted to participate in the glories that are changing as fast as you can so I g..."
Julie reflects on the difficulty of making accurate predictions, emphasizing the importance of adaptability in the face of change. She shares insights from her experiences and the lessons learned from historical events, reinforcing the idea that humanity struggles with foresight.
"Capital specifically uh you know we we really Vibe on a lot of things together that's why I invested in your fund uh and one of them is humans stuck at making predictions like they really really suck ..."
Drawing from the history of the Peloponnesian War, Julie articulates her belief that while circumstances evolve, human nature remains constant. She underscores the value of historical lessons in navigating contemporary challenges and the importance of adaptability.
"difference so I will bring up one of my favorite props my whole life philosophy is summed up with the fdii really and truly uh and I know that sounds really dorky but this is like the landmark transla..."
Julie discusses the concept of arbitraging human nature as the last sustainable edge in markets. She explains how understanding human behavior is crucial for success in an ever-changing environment, highlighting the timelessness of human nature amidst rapid technological advancements.
"not plan accordingly and if that's all I got from a university education I think it was worth the time and the money because the only constant we are ever engaging with is change while at the same tim..."
In a thought-provoking discussion, Julie examines the implications of historical decisions made during the Peloponnesian War. She raises questions about leadership and accountability, drawing parallels to contemporary societal challenges and generational responsibilities.
"not and that's been true since athensville yeah it's one of my favorite lines is the last sustainable Edge in markets is uh arbitraging human nature because markets Chang millisecond by millisecond hu..."
Julie reflects on the responsibilities of different generations in shaping society. She discusses the significance of understanding past mistakes and the role of Millennials as they transition into middle age, emphasizing the need for thoughtful leadership and decision-making.
"debates which I admit means parties at my house are probably not that exciting but I think it's fun uh is to debate whether or not Pericles the sort of great general of an leader of Athens was wrong t..."
Julie introduces the concept of the Great Weirding, a term coined by Venkatesh Rao, describing a shift in societal narratives that has led to an increasingly strange and unpredictable world. She explores how dominant narratives are becoming harder to maintain in the face of rapid change.
"age this is terrific and then I realize that that's my own turning as to understanding what am I in charge of what am I taking from the generations ahead of me and saying hey let's not have the same m..."
Discussing the rapid flow of information in today's world, Julie connects historical events to modern societal changes. She highlights how the ability to share ideas quickly can lead to significant cultural shifts, drawing parallels to past revolutions and their impacts.
"it's especially scary to people in power I'm I'm currently reading uh a book about one of my favorite uh Mystics William Blake it's called William Blake verse the world and uh the author uh brings up ..."
Julie emphasizes the importance of networking ideas and information in driving societal change. She reflects on how historical events, such as the Gordon Riots, illustrate the power of collective action and the rapid dissemination of ideas in shaping public sentiment.
"lived through this uh series of riots in uh London in 1780 uh it was essentially the biggest week-long of rioting in London's history they called it the Gordon riots and what the mob and it started pr..."
In a discussion about the complexities of modern society, Julie addresses the challenges faced by institutions in adapting to rapid changes. She highlights the need for adaptable strategies in navigating the unpredictable landscape of contemporary life.
"information and I think that the complexity of information that's being conveyed is so fundamental to how we think about any kind of and I mean investing in the broader sense of investing our time our..."
Julie concludes by discussing the importance of embracing uncertainty and preparing for the unexpected. She reiterates the idea that while chaos may be daunting, it also presents opportunities for growth and innovation in a rapidly changing world.
"changing environment circumstances change Humanity doesn't plan according yeah yeah and uh that's another area where we really resonate uh because you say uh you don't want chaos but listen uh we're g..."
Julie Fredrickson discusses the concept of 'The Great Weirding,' a term coined by Venkatesh Rao. She explains how this phenomenon represents a shift in societal narratives, where traditional beliefs are challenged and the timeline of reality becomes increasingly unpredictable. This segment delves into how the dominant narratives of the past are becoming harder to maintain, leading to a world where unexpected events redefine our understanding of reality.
"reality is like paper money it has no value at all except uh that everyone believes it does and then he had another quote that I thought was great which is crazy is a numbers game uh like if enough pe..."
In this segment, Julie Fredrickson elaborates on the idea of narrative collapse, referencing William Gibson's experiences and how unexpected political events can disrupt established worldviews. She discusses how the Great Weirding reflects a constant need to adapt our expectations and narratives in response to rapidly changing circumstances, emphasizing the importance of flexibility in our understanding of reality.
"uh I believe another guess on infinite Loops uh venites raal uh I frange because I'm such an internet person in my head I'm like at vgr uh he he described the great weirding as this moment in which th..."
Julie Fredrickson explores the concept of individual narratives and how they intersect in today's interconnected world. She likens the current state of society to Joseph Campbell's idea of the Hero's Journey, where everyone's personal stories collide, creating a complex tapestry of experiences. This segment highlights the potential for individuals to influence reality through their unique perspectives and actions.
"how things are going to be um and in in in um I'm just going they at beer and at Beer's approach the great weirding uh was harambe being killed the uh gorilla where it was just such a weird uncomforta..."
In this thought-provoking segment, Julie discusses the idea of reprogramming one's beliefs in the face of a rapidly changing world. She emphasizes the importance of questioning established narratives and the potential for individuals to reshape their understanding of reality. This segment encourages listeners to embrace change and adapt their beliefs to thrive in an unpredictable environment.
"he writes near future science fiction um he's known for you Neuromancer um Johnny neonic is the one movie he really got made of the peripheral has been made into a TV show alas canceled but the first ..."
Julie Fredrickson addresses the human desire for control and how losing that illusion can lead to anxiety. She discusses nostalgia and the tendency to romanticize the past, arguing that such timelines never truly existed. This segment invites listeners to reflect on their perceptions of reality and the narratives they construct about their lives.
"journey is hitting up against every other hero's journey it's just getting weirder everyone now has the chance to push up against reality and change it which like how cool is that I never thought we c..."
In this segment, Julie critiques the notion of a perfect past, suggesting that it is a construct of our imagination rather than reality. She references historical literature and myths that perpetuate this idea, urging listeners to recognize that the longing for a harmonious past is often misguided. This discussion challenges the audience to confront the complexities of history and the narratives we create.
"human so for all of us right and and so it it also Spurs like uh uh Nostalgia for example uh and and Nostalgia is is basically uh you know I remember a a time where I was not it wasn't then it isn't n..."
Julie Fredrickson reflects on humanity's longing for simpler times, suggesting that this desire is rooted in a deep-seated need for safety and comfort. She discusses how this longing manifests in our narratives and the implications it has for our understanding of progress. This segment encourages listeners to consider how their perceptions of simplicity influence their actions and beliefs.
"world really was yeah and to the point where we have pastoral um pastoral literature goes back thousands of years that uh there there is a a Greek myth called dhis and Khloe about uh this you know bea..."
In this insightful segment, Julie emphasizes the importance of agency in navigating the complexities of modern life. She discusses how individuals can respond to unexpected challenges with creativity and adaptability, positioning themselves as active participants in shaping their realities. This segment inspires listeners to embrace their power to effect change in their lives and communities.
"you know everything was taken care of for us and you know beats Will C and then bam bam yeah and it's like b b everywhere I think that my whole approach on on on Founders on investing on life in gener..."
Julie Fredrickson introduces the concept of becoming a 'playable character' in one's own life. She discusses the importance of developing agency and the ability to navigate the complexities of existence. This segment encourages listeners to reflect on their personal journeys and the choices they make in shaping their identities.
"make it because uh there's been this whole conversation about non-player characters over the summer uh partially because as artificial intelligence has been able to give more more um probabilistic thi..."
In this segment, Julie explores the tension between consensus reality and individual perspectives. She discusses how differing beliefs can lead to conflict and the importance of understanding diverse viewpoints. This discussion highlights the need for empathy and open-mindedness in a world where narratives are constantly evolving.
"Savannah and then it turns out a lot of that programming wasn't particularly useful I had to go through and learn a whole set of histories and experiences and I had to become a playable character in m..."
Julie Fredrickson addresses the collapse of traditional models and the resulting anxiety many people feel. She discusses how the old frameworks for understanding the world are no longer sufficient, prompting a reevaluation of beliefs and narratives. This segment encourages listeners to embrace uncertainty and seek new ways of understanding their experiences.
"and that's the question is who alignment who agency who's programming as I don't think those are easy questions no they're like I'm fascinated by all those questions and spent a lot of time thinking a..."
In this segment, Julie introduces the concept of 'The Thinker and The Prover,' explaining how our beliefs shape our perceptions of reality. She discusses the importance of questioning our assumptions and the power of belief in creating our experiences. This thought-provoking discussion invites listeners to reflect on their own belief systems and the narratives they construct.
"thread on on Twitter called The Thinker prover uh which uh worked on uh a guy named uh or's idea which was popularized by uh Robert Anton Wilson that like we once the Thinker can think anything he wan..."
Julie Fredrickson shares her personal journey of reprogramming her beliefs to adapt to new realities. She emphasizes the value of self-reflection and the potential for growth through challenging established narratives. This segment encourages listeners to consider their own capacity for change and the importance of embracing new perspectives.
"real and all it wants to do it basically you know that the old saying uh seeing is believing well really it's the other way around believing is seeing and and if you you literally in many instances ca..."
In this segment, Julie discusses her experiences in venture capital and the lessons she has learned about adaptability and innovation. She reflects on the importance of understanding market dynamics and the need for flexibility in investment strategies. This discussion provides valuable insights for aspiring entrepreneurs and investors alike.
"were your biggest surprises uh when you came into Venture Capital because one of the reasons we became an LP is you are very very different than other funds so let's talk about that for a little bit w..."
Julie Fredrickson emphasizes the importance of finding one's unique voice in the crowded landscape of ideas and narratives. She discusses how broadcasting one's message can attract like-minded individuals and foster connections. This segment inspires listeners to embrace their individuality and share their perspectives with the world.
"just really really like the grind I I picked doing things that I thought was fun and there's nothing that I think is more enjoyable than talking to someone who's really passionate about what they're b..."
In this segment, Julie explores the concept of muses in the context of innovation and entrepreneurship. She discusses how inspiration can come from unexpected sources and the importance of being open to new ideas. This discussion encourages listeners to cultivate their creativity and seek out the muses that resonate with them.
"connecting you to people if you are capable of broadcasting who you are other people who want what you have are going to find you so I have the tendency to think of myself as being a lighthouse that I..."
Julie Fredrickson reflects on William Gibson's quote about the future being unevenly distributed. She discusses how emerging trends and ideas can shape our understanding of reality and the importance of staying attuned to these shifts. This segment encourages listeners to remain curious and engaged with the evolving landscape of ideas.
"money I had some startups that did not successfully make money and I was able to come out the other side of it with 15 years of this is what it looks like this is what it looks like to just objectivel..."
In this final segment, Julie discusses the power of creating a network of ideas through the internet and AI. She emphasizes the importance of amplifying one's message and connecting with others who share similar visions. This discussion highlights the potential for collaboration and innovation in a rapidly changing world.
"other people I'm here I want to hear how your reality is going to affect my reality such that everyone's reality changes yeah we Again by uh on that as well we sort of look at all of our uh internet a..."
Julie shares her insights on the necessity of aligning personal beliefs with market realities. She reflects on her experiences in asset management, emphasizing that if a founder's perspective diverges from the market's, they are likely mistaken. This segment underscores the importance of understanding market dynamics and the need for founders to adapt their expectations based on real-world feedback.
"this I think we're still in in the reality tunnel many people are still in the reality tunnel of you know am has to be huge no actually it doesn't uh if you can find the the right fit and what you sai..."
Julie discusses the significance of persistence and the act of 'showing up' in the entrepreneurial journey. She explains that successful founders often engage with her long before they seek funding, demonstrating their commitment and willingness to iterate on their ideas. This segment highlights the importance of continuous effort and the compounding effect of small, consistent actions over time.
"batting average right yeah and and so what do you look for though okay so we've got the beacon we've we're vibing on on the current view of the world which changes dramatically if you are a probabilis..."
In this segment, Julie emphasizes the need for agility in entrepreneurship, particularly in a rapidly changing landscape. She discusses how successful founders must be able to adapt their business models and strategies in response to new information and market conditions. Julie's insights reflect the importance of flexibility and open-mindedness in navigating the complexities of starting and growing a business.
"of the reasons that I didn't write any checks is that some of the basic parameters of what I thought was going to be necessary because like you're still dealing with reality right like there are start..."
Julie shares her approach to working with founders, focusing on the iterative process of refining ideas and products. She encourages founders to articulate their value propositions and engage in role-playing exercises to better understand their target audience. This segment highlights the importance of adaptability and the willingness to explore different perspectives in the development of a startup.
"Valley is that you spend all of this time around people who really are these s tier crazy they can have the outlier of it but because what I'm doing is usually before companies even formed before they..."
Julie discusses the qualities she looks for in founders, particularly agency and persistence. She explains that successful entrepreneurs must take ownership of their journey and be willing to iterate on their ideas. This segment underscores the importance of a proactive mindset and the ability to navigate challenges in the startup ecosystem.
"superpower in particular is I'm really really good at getting attention I kind of came up through marketing and comms and have many Dark Art wit uh chaos magic around that because you know attention i..."
In this segment, Julie reflects on the expectations that founders often bring to their interactions with investors. She emphasizes the need to challenge these expectations and encourages founders to be authentic in their presentations. Julie's insights highlight the importance of genuine communication and the willingness to explore the complexities of their business ideas.
"little bit of progress think people so underestimate the value of compounding if you just do a little bit show up do something show up the next day it changes everything and that's why I say linear pr..."
Julie discusses the chaotic nature of the entrepreneurial landscape and the importance of embracing uncertainty. She encourages founders to acknowledge the unpredictability of their journeys and to remain open to new possibilities. This segment emphasizes the need for resilience and adaptability in the face of challenges.
"reality tunnel uh to to even like H how do you disambiguate like when you're talking with the founder for the first time how how how do you sus out that they are truly uh weird to use uh the term that..."
Julie shares her process for helping founders clarify their ideas and products. She emphasizes the importance of understanding customer needs and iterating on product offerings. This segment highlights the value of constructive feedback and the iterative nature of developing a successful business.
"little bit dated but one of the sort of helpful approaches that it has is that everyone has an expectation of how things are meant to be and uh what signals mean and you know who you are and I noticed..."
In this segment, Julie discusses the critical role of storytelling in entrepreneurship. She emphasizes that simply having a great product is not enough; founders must effectively communicate the value of their offerings. This segment underscores the necessity of crafting compelling narratives to engage customers and drive success.
"usually the first step and once they've stopped trying to impress me like oh it's like it's so chaotic I'm like yes yes the world's chaotic let's one more down uh I'll try to pick a problem that they'..."
Julie reflects on the importance of market feedback in shaping a startup's direction. She discusses how founders must remain receptive to customer insights while also being willing to challenge conventional wisdom. This segment highlights the dynamic relationship between entrepreneurs and the market as they navigate the complexities of building a business.
"it and I don't necessarily want them to always know right because it's possible that the customer doesn't exist yet that the market doesn't exist yet and for me those are always the most exciting ones..."
Julie Fredrickson discusses the misconception in tech that a good product will sell itself, referencing the 'Field of Dreams' mentality. She emphasizes the importance of storytelling and actively engaging with the market to create demand, rather than waiting for customers to come to you. This segment highlights the necessity of marketing and communication in the success of a product.
"Street I had any number of people saying you are insane don't publish that like that's that's incredible proprietary IP why would you ever publish that I would just laugh and I would say I could take ..."
In this segment, Julie shares a compelling story about a company that teaches chess to children through storytelling. She illustrates how the market provides valuable feedback and inspiration, demonstrating that listening to customer needs can lead to successful business ventures. This highlights the importance of adaptability and creativity in entrepreneurship.
"step of agency that people forget that people don't care they're so wrapped up in their own world because it's yeah it's a weird time right like we're all just trying to survive and being able to show..."
Julie recounts the serendipitous origins of a children's chess program that evolved from a miscommunication. The founder's ability to adapt and create a narrative on the spot led to unexpected success, showcasing how innovation can arise from flexibility and creativity in teaching methods. This segment emphasizes the power of storytelling in education and engagement.
"happened it you'll love this story because it all happened accidentally as you know here in New York there's a lot of creatives who are they want to be the next big play right or director or actor or ..."
Julie discusses the importance of heeding market feedback and the dangers of ignoring it. She shares how the success of the chess program led to the opening of a store, illustrating the concept that the market can guide entrepreneurs toward successful ventures. This segment reinforces the idea that understanding customer desires is crucial for business growth.
"said well what did you learn today and he goes oh I heard a story and the mother looked a little floxed right you heard a story and then uh our founder said show your mom how the piece is move how doe..."
In this segment, Julie emphasizes the importance of authenticity and bravery in communication for founders. She discusses the need for entrepreneurs to express their unique voices and stories, especially in a world where corporate language can stifle creativity. This segment encourages founders to embrace their individuality and connect with their audience.
"but you know worldbuilding communication again something you're really good at I always think of my friend Lulu uh mxi mury uh who is I love her because she's like guys you're the insurgents here you'..."
Julie reflects on the significance of storytelling in understanding context and conveying messages. She draws parallels between storytelling and the need for empathy in communication, urging founders to share their narratives despite fears of judgment. This segment highlights how stories can bridge gaps and foster connections in business.
"I feel really um just in my heart had that there's this generation who was so convinced that woke speak means they can't say what they want yeah because I think of it as just being a little bit of an ..."
Julie discusses her approach to resilience in the face of uncertainty, sharing personal experiences that shaped her perspective. She emphasizes the importance of being prepared for unexpected challenges while maintaining a focus on building a better future. This segment encapsulates the duality of being a 'Doomer Optimist' and the necessity of planning for potential disruptions.
"share your context you have to lose it the founder has got to learn to be brave enough to go out and be cringe fail be embarrassed because you're going to be embarrassed all the time if you're doing i..."
In this segment, Julie Fredrickson explores the modern interpretation of 'prepping' and its shift from survivalist stereotypes to a focus on self-sufficiency and regret minimization. She reflects on the misconceptions surrounding preppers and emphasizes the importance of being prepared for everyday challenges rather than apocalyptic scenarios.
"have the same needs I still need to be able to get online I still need to drink clean water I still need to eat like those are all really basic things and so I kind of think that if you're not living ..."
Julie critiques the pitfalls of centralized planning in technology and society, warning against aligning AI development solely with elite perspectives. She draws parallels to historical failures of planning ideologies and stresses the necessity of inclusivity in shaping future technologies to avoid repeating past mistakes.
"because you are Tona But but so we do all of us again I always include myself because I'm not saying you have it wrong over there you human I'm a human too and I probably even have it more spectacular..."
In this segment, Julie Fredrickson advocates for open-source principles in AI development, arguing that diverse input from a wide range of human experiences is crucial for ethical alignment. She expresses concern over the concentration of power in AI and emphasizes the need for decentralized approaches to ensure equitable outcomes.
"life possible can you do it because during Hurricane Sandy I still had to go to work there was no power in lower Manhattan but one of my clients Uptown Ralph Len still had power and they still had Del..."
Julie discusses the implications of AI alignment with a narrow set of human experiences, warning that it could lead to societal issues. She emphasizes the importance of including varied perspectives in AI development to prevent potential negative outcomes and ensure that technology serves the broader population.
"Montana although I would love to because that would be very cool uh but one aspect of I think the social and political and uh economic muu of Silicon Valley is that it has become an idea and not a pla..."
Julie Fredrickson shares her excitement about open-source initiatives in AI, highlighting their potential to democratize technology and empower individuals. She reflects on her motivations for investing in open-source projects, driven by a desire to protect future generations from a controlled and narrow technological landscape.
"there's a lot of lights out of it also great place to for billionaire LPS you know if that's something that you know you have to concern yourself with which you know I do kindly recommend coming out f..."
In this segment, Julie emphasizes the necessity of cognitive diversity in AI development, arguing that without it, optimal outcomes are unlikely. She discusses the initial vision for AI to incorporate diverse cultural narratives and the importance of recognizing the limitations of individual perspectives in generating innovative ideas.
"go there right away let's kill it in its cradle because you know what they knew how much better it was and you know so like uh Balmer Linx is communism and all of these types of things and look I if I..."
Julie reflects on her experiences in fashion and how they taught her that trends and tastes emerge from collective contributions rather than top-down dictates. She encourages individuals to recognize their power to influence change and contribute to the evolving landscape of ideas and creativity.
"unknown unknowns you'll never know you're just an N of one no matter how good you are and of one exactly and you know you here's a book you might like because Genius of the Beast the radical revision ..."
Julie expresses optimism about the current historical moment, suggesting that the rapid pace of change offers unprecedented opportunities for adaptability. She believes that the ability to embrace and enact small changes can lead to significant transformations in society.
"contribute that we're all actors in this system you can choose any lens through which to figure that out like the fact that I found it out through Vogue and fashion is like oh well that's kind of cool..."
In this segment, Julie contrasts the courage required to build something meaningful with the ease of tearing it down. She emphasizes the importance of a positive mindset and the impact of one's words on shaping reality, advocating for a focus on constructive contributions rather than negativity.
"P all these little changes I just think it's so much fun I'd meet to again that and I couldn't agree with you more I am I am so happy to be alive at this particular time in history because it is so fi..."
Julie shares her vision for a better world, proposing two simple yet profound ideas: to be kinder to one another and to incorporate squats into daily routines for improved health. She highlights the significance of recognizing each other's humanity and the power of small actions in fostering a more compassionate society.
"you're on run that down exactly well listen Julie I am watching my my clock here I could talk to you all day long and I will right here and right now invite you uh again to come back because there's a..."