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If You Could Live Forever Would You? (Ben Goertzel) | AI Podcast Clips with Lex Fridman
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Full episode with Ben Goertzel (Jun 2020): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpSmCKe27WE Clips channel (Lex Clips): https://www.youtube.com/lexclips Main channel (Lex Fridman): https://www.youtube.com/lexfridman (more links below) Podcast full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Podcasts clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/ai Podcast on Apple Podcasts (iTunes): https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Podcast on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 Podcast RSS: https://lexfridman.com/category/ai/feed/ Ben Goertzel is one of the most interesting minds in the artificial intelligence community. He is the founder of SingularityNET, designer of OpenCog AI framework, formerly a director of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, Chief Scientist of Hanson Robotics, the company that created the Sophia Robot. He has been a central figure in the AGI community for many years, including in the Conference on Artificial General Intelligence. Subscribe to this YouTube channel or connect on: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman
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The Choice of Immortality
Ben Goertzel discusses the philosophical implications of immortality, emphasizing that involuntary death should be abolished. He argues for the right to choose death and reflects on how future generations will view the concept of forced mortality. This segment explores the tension between the desire for eternal life and the natural human inclination towards mortality.
"so if you could live forever would you live forever forever i my my goal with longevity research is to abolish the plague of involuntary death i don't think people should die unless they choose to die..."
Romanticizing Suffering
Goertzel delves into the complexities of suffering and pain, questioning the societal tendency to romanticize these experiences. He contrasts the potential for a life without suffering against the human experience of pain, suggesting that overcoming challenges can lead to deeper understanding. This segment challenges the notion that suffering is inherently valuable.
"gave away all their positions went on top of the mountain for jesus for jesus to come and bring them to the right to the ascension i mean yeah it's ridiculous that people think death is is is good bec..."
The Dial of Pain
In this thought-provoking segment, Goertzel presents a hypothetical scenario involving a dial that adjusts the intensity of pain. He explores the implications of having such control over pain and suffering, questioning whether humans would choose to eliminate pain entirely or retain some level of it for personal growth. This discussion highlights the intricate relationship between pain, pleasure, and human experience.
"it's not obvious i mean the way you put it it's it seems very logical it's almost absurd to romanticize suffering or pain or death but to me a world without suffering without pain without death it's n..."
Joy, Growth, and Choice
Goertzel articulates his perspective on the meaning of life, identifying joy, growth, and choice as fundamental values. He argues that these values can persist indefinitely and are essential for a fulfilling existence. This segment emphasizes the importance of personal agency and the potential for human evolution beyond current biological limitations.
"confess a small thing um don't ask me why but i'm i'm doing this physical challenge currently where i'm doing 680 push-ups and pull-ups a day yeah yeah and my shoulder is currently as we sit here in a..."
Transhumanism and Beyond
In this segment, Goertzel discusses the concept of transhumanism and the potential for humans to evolve beyond their current biological forms. He suggests that advancements in technology could lead to greater joy, growth, and choice, ultimately enhancing the human experience. This exploration of transhumanism raises questions about the future of humanity and the possibilities of life beyond traditional human constraints.
"researcher i don't know that said for certain yeah no i'm more confident that we could create a non-human agi system [Music] which just didn't need an analog of feeling pain and i think that agi syste..."
The Future of Longevity Research
Goertzel shares insights into the current state of longevity research, highlighting advancements in gene editing and stem cell technology. He discusses the potential for these innovations to prolong life and improve health, emphasizing the need for integrated biological knowledge and funding for research. This segment underscores the importance of scientific progress in the quest for longevity.
"expectations that we said yeah yeah so beautifully put is there we've been skirting around a little bit but if i were to ask you the most ridiculous big question of what is the meaning of life uh what..."
A Call for Holistic Bio-AI Infrastructure
In this concluding segment, Goertzel advocates for a massive investment in holistic bio-AI infrastructure to tackle aging and death. He critiques the current state of research funding and data silos, calling for a collaborative approach to biological research. This passionate plea emphasizes the urgency of addressing human longevity through innovative technologies and open data sharing.
"humans and and go beyond human life but certainly that's not all of it for me in a practical sense right like i have four kids and and a granddaughter and many friends and parents and family and just ..."