"It drives me crazy that nobody else thinks about risk in this way. People look at my life and they're like, "Well, you're crazy. You're such a risk taker." Well, at least I'm taking the risks that I'm..."

"the anomaly um that many of us become including yourself. So what do I need to know? What does the viewer need to know about the early context? >> I mean, how deep do you want to go? I need get a sofa..."

">> And for the average person that doesn't know what free soloing is, what's the like definition of it? >> That's climbing without a robe. So climbing without protection, which is definitely what I'm ..."

">> Your dad passing what impact did that have on you outside of it somewhat liberating you to to make decisions that outside of his expectations? >> Well I mean obviously it was you know it's sad. It'..."

">> If your kids came to you, you have two girls right? >> Yeah. >> If they came to you and said, "Dad, like give me advice on what I should aim at in life." >> Would you tell I wouldn't I wouldn't giv..."

">> On this on this idea of like exposure therapy as it relates to like fear and anxiety and confronting one's uh things that terrify them. Was there in the early days were you I'm trying to understand..."

"some deep level that the thing holding them back from who they think they want to be or who they aspire to be is fear. Often it's judgment of someone else. It's taking a risk. >> Totally. So, you've b..."

"like how most of the world live. We kind of we all live in like you know >> I just don't know if it's for me. I don't know. I mean doesn't that just seem I mean I had this moment I've been in New York..."

"anywhere where you see it looking a little bit different, you know, it's like this whole bottom part is like a low angle slab. It's like punctuated with these two little rubies, these little like coin..."

">> Cuz it's what? Like there's not enough. It's too slippery. >> Um, yeah, super slippery. Also, it's just the way the holds are. Like I mean, the beauty of Typo 101 is that the holds like they're goo..."

"building. >> The rumors were that you got 500k to climb it from Netflix. >> Throughout my whole like, you know, quote unquote career as a climber, I basically have never worried about money and I've a..."

">> Whoa. What's that on your face? >> This is my Bon Charge face mask. I've been wearing this for some time now. They're a sponsor of the podcast. I put this on for 15 20 minutes a day. I can sit here..."

"the last couple of years my mortality like realizing that I'm going to die someday has been such a a wonderful thing to to really remind myself of and like a frequent basis. >> What uh how come? >> Ju..."

">> struggling or less are more sedentary or struggling with their weight, they often have smaller ones. Anyone that avoids discomfort has a smaller one. >> So um in your in the context of the way you'..."

"company that I've just invested in, it's grown like crazy. I want to be the one to tell you about it because I think it's going to create such a huge productivity advantage for you. Whisper Flow is an..."

"week left to live and this was the week and you could only do one last climb, you go back and recapture the record, go do our cap again, I don't know, a different building, you have one week and assum..."

"all your career, when is the moment where you were most scared? Where you thought maybe you had pushed it too far? >> Oh, it's actually uh I've had several moments, but it's actually mostly with ropes..."

">> but you can't let that stop you taking actions when the risk profile is okay. >> Yeah. Exactly. I mean, this is like a whole rant about risk-taking and everything, but like I mean, that's the thing..."

">> And the question left for you is oh what do you want to achieve in your life outside of your mainline job that you haven't yet achieved? I don't know. I mean that seems there basically two other av..."