"to make this episode I got to spend about seven hours with John Mackey over two days and I read his great autobiography twice I hope you enjoyed this episode I put a lot of time energy and love into m..."

"from the book that I'm going talked about today which is the whole story adventures in love life and capitalism and is written by John Mackey founder and former CEO of Whole Foods so a few months ago ..."

"inefficiencies of socialism people had thought I was in one tribal box and now they were determined to put me into a different one which I also didn't fit into and another trait I would add to this or..."

"own curiosity and the University Library was my classroom he D just like C drops drops out of school and then just drops into classes not for credits not for a degree but because of his own curiosity ..."

"could do this I could run a natural food store and then something happens that's really important that changes the trajectory of his life is that Renee believed in his idea so he goes and and tells he..."

"family another thing you have to know about John is uh he describes himself as an event angelical or U an evangelist rather not Evangelical he's an evangelist and can be very charismatic and convincin..."

"work first he asked for forgiveness not permission and if he didn't do this Whole Foods would never exist because they' had no money they had they they're living in the store so the first store is thi..."

"better chance of success he gives us an example take my former employer The Good Food Company they only had five stores right this it wasn't a big business but it's bigger than his one and that gives ..."

"expand his mission so there was a trade magazine called natural food merchandiser and he reads this story about a company in Los Angeles it's a natural food store named Mrs gues I won't bury the lead ..."

"tilted against us and we need to change that we have to change that location and size matter a lot and so what John does next is really smart and again it just feeds back to the fact that he's this vi..."

"this as well we just covered a few weeks ago that that obscure Sam Walton biography and every time Sam increased the square footage of a store the revenue went up as well and so this is the time where..."

"entrepreneurial emotional roller coaster is Euphoria and Terror they open up and less than a year later Austin Texas gets hit by torrential downpours that cause what they call a once in a 100-year flo..."

"things was very interesting that that John and I talked about at dinner is he said that the years go by fast and a lot gets lost to memory so I'm going to come back to this because at this point in th..."

"small I was never going to be satisfied to stay small and so there's a tension between him and his co-founder mark because they open a new store it sales go a little slower they're cannibalizing sales..."

"kind of psychedelics or anything like that it's up to what I don't you know judge other people if you like doing that then and it's helpful by all means do it and he definitely talks about how helpful..."

"Foods is it just going to be a Texas company or can we do we actually have the potential to be and the skill set and the talent and the drive to actually be a national company and I think one of the t..."

"this conflict between you know his dad's practically his best friend his advisor he's on the board he's about to ask his dad to step down and he didn't understand the fights they were having because h..."