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The Discipline Expert: 2,000 Years Of Research PROVES Successful People Do One Thing! - Ryan Holiday

The Discipline Expert: 2,000 Years Of Research PROVES Successful People Do One Thing! - Ryan Holiday

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This 2,000 year old philosophy that will change your life in 2023! Ryan Holiday. 00:00 Intro 02:15 My Mission to Transform People's Lives 04:25 How Discipline Really Works & Gives Us Freedom 11:56 The Role of Commitment in Success 16:54 Why We Make Excuses and Can't Commit to Anything 19:32 A Powerful Process for Creating New Beliefs 27:21 Pushing Yourself & Why All Discipline Starts with the Body 35:32 The Incredible Daily Process That Has Changed My Life 39:35 What Are the Answers We're Seeking the Most? 41:40 How to Deal with Hard Times in Our Lives 48:02 The Key Questions We Should All Ask Ourselves 49:11 Relationships & Social Media Triggering Our Crisis 53:48 The 5 Steps to Living a Good Life 01:05:10 What Stoic Wisdom Do You Struggle with the Most? 01:11:46 What's the Most Important Lesson You'd Deliver to the World? 01:19:04 Last Guest’s Question You can purchase Ryan’s most recent book, ‘The Daily Dad: 366 Meditations on Parenting, Love, and Raising Great Kids’, here: https://amzn.to/3QwpG6z You can purchase Ryan's other books here: https://amzn.to/3QAYh3C Follow Ryan: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3OKINJf Twitter: https://bit.ly/45msTvI TikTok: https://bit.ly/3OJK2IN YouTube: https://bit.ly/45Aa0Fk My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' pre order link: https://smarturl.it/DOACbook Join this channel to get access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Dpmgx5 Follow me: Instagram: http://bit.ly/3nIkGAZ Twitter: http://bit.ly/3ztHuHm Linkedin: https://bit.ly/41Fl95Q Telegram: http://bit.ly/3nJYxST Sponsors: Huel: https://g2ul0.app.link/G4RjcdKNKsb Zoe - http://joinzoe.com with an exclusive code CEO10 for 10% off

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0:00 - 2:15
2:15 duration460 words

The Courage to Change Your Life

Ryan Holiday introduces the concept of discipline as a transformative force in our lives. He emphasizes that true discipline is about doing hard things for long-term benefits, which ultimately leads to freedom. He challenges the audience to confront their procrastination and the reality of life's impermanence, urging them to cultivate discipline to gain the freedom many have never experienced.

"I can help you get more of what you want create the highest form of discipline how not to care about what other people think that's the meaning of life right there so Brian holiday the modern day phil..."

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2:15 - 4:25
2:09 duration328 words

Philosophy as a Transformative Discourse

Ryan Holiday discusses his mission to transform lives through philosophy, particularly Stoicism. He explains that engaging with philosophical ideas through writing and conversation has made him a better person. Holiday highlights the practical nature of Stoicism, focusing on how it provides guidance for living a good life and dealing with everyday challenges.

"Ryan how do you summarize what you do and why you do it why I do it is much easier for me to articulate which is that I get better for doing it like we tend to think of philosophy as this thing that y..."

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4:25 - 6:54
2:29 duration411 words

Redefining Discipline: Self-Discipline vs. Control

In this segment, Ryan Holiday redefines discipline, emphasizing self-discipline over authoritarian control. He shares insights from Stoic philosophy, particularly the importance of being strict with oneself while being tolerant of others. Holiday illustrates how true discipline involves setting personal standards and adapting to others rather than imposing one's will.

"really reframed in a lot of people's minds is that is the word discipline and what it means yeah because the definition of discipline that I understood before discipline is Destiny was this kind of pa..."

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6:54 - 9:01
2:07 duration362 words

Discipline as Freedom: The Stoic Perspective

Ryan Holiday explores the paradox of discipline providing freedom, referencing the Stoic philosopher Epictetus. He contrasts legal freedom with true freedom, which comes from self-control over desires and aversions. Holiday argues that many people, despite their wealth and status, are not truly free because they are slaves to their ambitions and external pressures.

"the beginning of meditations Marx realist he talks about his brother like at length he doesn't call him his step brother calls him his brother and he says you know what I learned from my brother he sa..."

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9:01 - 12:01
3:00 duration442 words

The Power of Keeping Commitments

Ryan Holiday emphasizes the importance of keeping commitments to oneself, no matter how small. He discusses how these commitments shape our self-esteem and personal narrative. Using a story from Cormac McCarthy's novel, he illustrates that breaking small promises can lead to breaking larger ones, reinforcing the idea that discipline is about consistency and integrity in our actions.

"discipline gives us freedom Epictetus is this slave he's a slave in Nero's court and imagine the contrast this person who has no Freedom completely impoverished their body their work their labor is al..."

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12:01 - 15:02
3:01 duration603 words

Building the Muscle of Discipline

In this segment, Ryan Holiday discusses the physical aspect of discipline, using the example of cold plunges to illustrate the importance of doing hard things. He argues that the real benefit of such practices is the ability to push through discomfort for long-term gains. Holiday stresses that cultivating this discipline is essential for achieving success in various aspects of life.

"and the importance of keeping those commitments sure and I'm thinking when I say that I mean the small things I'm gonna do this yeah I mean it's Jordan Peterson might say like I'm gonna make my bed we..."

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14:48 - 16:34
1:46 duration324 words

Building the Discipline Muscle

Ryan Holiday discusses the importance of building the 'discipline muscle' by committing to hard tasks and overcoming excuses. He emphasizes that true discipline involves pushing through discomfort and doing hard things for long-term benefits, using the metaphor of a cold plunge to illustrate the mental fortitude required to embrace challenges.

"that muscle of like I told myself I'm gonna do this hard thing now that hard thing is approaching and am I going to come up with an excuse am I going to give myself a way out or I'm going to do it and..."

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16:34 - 18:30
1:55 duration395 words

Overcoming Self-Deception

In this segment, Holiday addresses the struggle of maintaining discipline and the self-deceptive narratives that can arise when we fail to keep commitments. He encourages listeners to identify with their aspirational selves rather than their mistakes, promoting a mindset of resilience and the ability to get back on track after setbacks.

"like if you can cultivate that you're Golden That's where books come from that's where businesses come from that's where losing weight comes all of it comes from the ability to do that hard thing that..."

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18:30 - 20:01
1:30 duration270 words

The Power of Belief Change

Ryan Holiday explores the connection between beliefs and discipline, emphasizing that our self-identity shapes our actions. He discusses how understanding and changing our beliefs can lead to greater self-discipline and personal growth, drawing parallels to the challenges faced by individuals with rigid beliefs.

"what I mean I kind of try to think about it that way it's like just because I've had a bad week where I was over scheduled or distracted or I was sick or whatever and I wasn't writing that doesn't mea..."

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20:01 - 22:45
2:44 duration447 words

Doing the Verb, Not the Noun

Holiday shares insights on focusing on actions rather than labels, advocating for a mindset of doing rather than being. He highlights the importance of making daily contributions to personal goals and how small, consistent actions can lead to significant progress over time.

"because my Hardware seems to be this kind of identity I I now believe about who Stephen Bartlett is yeah and I'm just kind of following the instruction manual of that of those that belief sir so how d..."

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22:45 - 25:21
2:35 duration359 words

Rooting Success in What You Control

In this segment, Ryan discusses the Stoic philosophy of focusing on what is within our control to define success. He emphasizes the importance of setting personal standards and measuring progress based on individual efforts rather than external validation, which can lead to greater satisfaction and fulfillment.

"days sometimes that's really visible and you're moving a lot of stuff around or you're creating a lot of stuff and then other days you're moving something a millimeter this way you made positive progr..."

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25:21 - 27:00
1:39 duration343 words

The Importance of Physical Discipline

Ryan Holiday explains how physical discipline is foundational for emotional resilience. He discusses the necessity of taking care of one's body to enhance mental and emotional well-being, illustrating how daily physical activities can contribute to overall discipline and success.

"and then weirdly you you you end up actually doing better work because you're focusing all your energy like where it has impact I'm sure you've seen this where you know a clip that you didn't think wo..."

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27:00 - 29:02
2:01 duration288 words

Strength of Mind and Body

Holiday reflects on the Stoic belief that a strong mind and body are essential for personal development. He emphasizes the need for both mental and physical strength to navigate life's challenges and achieve personal goals, advocating for an active lifestyle as a means to cultivate discipline.

"want to root your sense of whether you're doing a good job whether you're succeeding you want to root that as as much as possible internally as otherwise somebody else determines whether you're good o..."

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29:02 - 32:10
3:07 duration474 words

Growth Through Adversity

In this concluding segment, Ryan discusses the concept of 'the wilderness' as a necessary phase for personal growth. He shares examples of historical figures who faced adversity and how overcoming challenges can lead to profound self-discovery and refinement of one's beliefs and goals.

"just be very well read very informed or steeped in philosophy but to be physically weak and and this isn't this isn't uh meaning that you have to be able to lift super heavy weights but the the idea i..."

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32:43 - 34:05
1:21 duration216 words

Ego Death and Learning from Failure

Ryan Holiday explores the idea of ego death that comes from rejection and failure. He stresses the importance of learning from these experiences early on to avoid catastrophic downfalls later. This segment encourages listeners to embrace challenges as opportunities for growth and self-discovery.

"hopefully you know better skills and those moments make us confront our egos yes yeah there's an ego death in losing being rejected realizing you're not what you thought you were or it's not going the..."

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34:05 - 35:29
1:24 duration255 words

Listening to Life's Whispers

Holiday discusses the significance of tuning into the subtle feedback life provides. He emphasizes the importance of self-reflection, accountability, and journaling as tools for personal growth. This segment highlights how ignoring these whispers can lead to more significant challenges down the line.

"how did you tune into that voice whispering you know it's it's uh for the Stokes it was like this kind of nightly or daily conversation with the self this is the art of journaling this is what Marcus ..."

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35:29 - 36:38
1:09 duration175 words

The Transformative Power of Writing

In this segment, Ryan Holiday shares the profound impact writing has had on his life. He explains how writing clarifies thoughts and forces deeper understanding, making it a crucial practice for personal and professional development. Holiday advocates for writing as a means to synthesize ideas and communicate effectively.

"easier than than the total rebuild this third point I believe it was of wisdom I've been asking myself a lot recently I sit and have conversations with some incredibly smart people yourself included a..."

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36:38 - 39:01
2:23 duration420 words

Stoicism and Timeless Wisdom

Holiday reflects on the timeless nature of Stoic philosophy, particularly the writings of Marcus Aurelius. He discusses how these ancient insights remain relevant today, addressing universal human struggles and crises. This segment emphasizes the importance of adapting Stoic principles to modern challenges.

"but it's also about the forcing you to go through the process of figuring out what you think and why and the problems with it the contradictions of it like for being forced to write it down is just so..."

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39:01 - 40:10
1:08 duration207 words

Responding to Life's Crises

Ryan Holiday explains the Stoic perspective on handling unexpected crises. He emphasizes that while we cannot control what happens to us, we can control our responses. This segment encourages viewers to find opportunities for growth in adversity, illustrating how challenges can lead to personal development.

"transformative for me as a person the fact that you know millions of people have read them now and listened to them and watched them all over the world that's just like like even if it was never publi..."

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40:10 - 41:43
1:33 duration221 words

The Obstacle is the Way

In this powerful segment, Holiday discusses the Stoic idea that obstacles can become pathways to success. He shares Marcus Aurelius's philosophy that what stands in the way can advance action, urging listeners to focus on solutions rather than problems. This mindset shift is crucial for overcoming challenges.

"years you know like on its face Marcus realizes meditations should be inaccessible impractical incomprehensible like you have the most powerful man on Earth emperor of Rome literally worshiped as a Go..."

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41:43 - 43:00
1:16 duration212 words

Finding Strength in Adversity

Holiday reflects on the strength gained from overcoming adversity. He encourages viewers to view challenges as opportunities for growth and resilience. This segment reinforces the idea that experiences shape our capabilities and that we often possess more strength than we realize.

"say about how we confront unexpected crises in our lives that we are clearly not responsible for you know a cancer diagnosis skip firing get we get fired from work we something else bad happens that w..."

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43:00 - 44:35
1:35 duration281 words

Emerging Stronger from Crisis

In this concluding segment, Ryan Holiday discusses the importance of resilience in the face of crises. He highlights how navigating difficult situations can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of one's capabilities. This segment serves as a motivational reminder that we can emerge stronger from life's challenges.

"he says he's basically saying that now that it's happened what opportunity does it present you and it doesn't mean oh hey you know your mother died that's great for your business that's not what he's ..."

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45:13 - 46:01
0:47 duration147 words

Emerging Stronger from Adversity

Ryan Holiday discusses how facing challenges, such as a pandemic or business downturn, can lead to personal growth. He emphasizes the importance of viewing hardships as opportunities for learning and resilience, echoing the Stoic philosophy that tests reveal our true capabilities.

"right whether it's this pandemic or it's this downturn in your business or it's this you know employee who stole from you or whatever you go this is practice this is reps right like I am going to emer..."

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46:01 - 47:01
0:59 duration181 words

The Power of Adaptation

In this segment, Holiday reflects on the collective experience of enduring a global crisis. He highlights how individuals can adapt and grow stronger through incremental challenges, reinforcing the Stoic belief that adversity can enhance our understanding of our own strengths.

"way to do it you know um I've said this to people it's like hey we just lived through this massive historical event together we're here like we made it you know it's not to say anything about the peop..."

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47:01 - 48:00
0:58 duration186 words

Stoic Questions for Self-Reflection

Holiday shares the importance of asking oneself critical questions to maintain perspective during difficult times. He emphasizes the need to evaluate what truly matters in life, encouraging listeners to prioritize meaningful interactions over trivial disputes.

"just realize as you go through things exactly what Seneca says like the person who hasn't been tested doesn't know but when you have been tested when you have gone through things you can take from tha..."

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48:00 - 49:11
1:11 duration202 words

The Impact of Relationships and Social Media

Ryan Holiday discusses how social media can trigger crises in relationships. He warns against the dangers of prioritizing online conflicts over real-life connections, advocating for a more mindful approach to digital interactions.

"for it I was watching a video you made about um swistoic questions that are really important to ask ourselves I guess to keep us on track to some degree um what kind of questions do you find yourself ..."

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49:11 - 50:02
0:50 duration148 words

Taking Responsibility for Emotions

In this segment, Holiday reflects on a conversation with his wife about emotional responsibility. He emphasizes that individuals must own their feelings and reactions, rather than attributing them to external circumstances or others' actions.

"what did the stock say about like relationships and romantic relationships and love I mean what they say about them to me is secondary to the fact that they were also in them right like you know it's ..."

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50:02 - 51:01
0:59 duration168 words

The Challenge of Being Right vs. Being Happy

Holiday explores the conflict between being right and maintaining harmony in relationships. He highlights the importance of prioritizing happiness and connection over the need to win arguments, drawing parallels to the divisive nature of social media.

"you she was basically saying like we're responsible for our own emotions like she's doing what she's doing and I am feeling the frustration I can't make that her fault right and I think about that oft..."

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51:01 - 52:01
0:59 duration164 words

The Dangers of Outrage Culture

Ryan Holiday critiques the culture of outrage prevalent on social media platforms. He discusses how individuals often seek conflict and negativity, detracting from meaningful experiences and relationships in their lives.

"know you're putting this thing over the relationship um Twitter is its own set of philosophical issues I just I you just watch people voluntarily seek out conflict and things to be upset about like if..."

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52:01 - 53:02
1:01 duration214 words

Creating Boundaries with Technology

In this segment, Holiday shares his personal approach to managing technology use. He discusses the importance of setting boundaries to protect mental well-being and emphasizes the need for intentional engagement with digital devices.

"um somehow I said he deleted it from his phone for this very reason last year he doesn't tweet anymore it's not involved in Twitter because he said when I look at the relationship I had with this devi..."

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53:02 - 54:22
1:20 duration238 words

The Wisdom of Reading

Holiday reflects on the transformative power of reading. He argues that literature allows individuals to experience diverse perspectives and learn from the lives of others, reinforcing the idea that wisdom is accessible through books.

"yeah I don't have any of them on my phone either and I don't know the password to the Daily stoic or my personal Twitter account so if there's something I need to say I can talk to someone who works f..."

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54:22 - 55:34
1:11 duration223 words

Focusing on What You Can Control

Ryan Holiday emphasizes the Stoic principle of focusing on what is within our control. He discusses the importance of energy allocation and how worrying about uncontrollable factors detracts from our ability to effect change in our lives.

"yeah I think the more you read that you you come up with some sort of themes it boils down eastern and western philosophy kind of like a horseshoe you know they come come together towards the the ends..."

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55:34 - 56:21
0:47 duration125 words

The Benefits of Walking and Water

In this segment, Holiday discusses the calming effects of walking and being near water. He highlights how these activities can foster creativity and mental clarity, suggesting they are essential practices for personal well-being.

"the the power of your car on the wheels that aren't touching the ground you know like you want to put it where it's going to get traction that's the a key thing in life is this up to you or not number..."

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56:21 - 57:36
1:14 duration205 words

Daily Rituals for Mental and Physical Health

Holiday shares his daily rituals, emphasizing the importance of doing something challenging each day. He advocates for physical challenges as a means to build resilience and improve overall well-being.

"things that you believe I mean look I think we evolved traveling very long distances I mean some of the oldest evidence of human beings in America are a set of footprints of a mother carrying and sett..."

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57:36 - 59:29
1:52 duration337 words

The Meaning of Life Through Service

Ryan Holiday discusses the Stoic belief that our purpose is to contribute to the common good. He encourages listeners to focus on the legacy they leave behind and the positive impact they can have on others.

"okay and you have that as a ritual every day every day every single day yeah yeah try to take a walk every day what else are sort of rituals in your life the daily rituals so I would add as a third on..."

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59:29 - 1:02:01
2:32 duration377 words

Embracing the Practice of Memento Mori

In this concluding segment, Holiday introduces the concept of Memento Mori, the practice of remembering mortality. He emphasizes its significance across various philosophical traditions as a reminder to live meaningfully and with intention.

"there so what is the positive contribution what is the Legacy you're leaving not how much money did you make you know what records did you break but what is the What is the contribution you are making..."

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1:02:43 - 1:03:53
1:10 duration186 words

The Gift of Time

Ryan Holiday reflects on the inevitability of death and how it should influence our daily choices. He emphasizes that every moment is precious and encourages listeners to consider how they spend their time. By acknowledging that life is finite, we can make more meaningful decisions and avoid taking our time for granted.

"of the most essential philosophical practices there is like why do we procrastinate why do we not prioritize our health why do we not do the stuff that we know we should do it's because we think we ha..."

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1:03:53 - 1:05:02
1:08 duration180 words

Stoicism and Emotional Awareness

Holiday discusses the common misconception that Stoicism is about suppressing emotions. Instead, he argues that true Stoicism involves understanding and processing emotions without being controlled by them. He shares personal insights on managing feelings and the importance of recognizing emotional triggers to respond thoughtfully rather than reactively.

"where you know you might never see someone die in your whole life until you are in a hospital bed you know we have we live in even more of a bubble you know we are even more sheltered we are even more..."

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1:05:02 - 1:06:51
1:49 duration279 words

Finding Peace in Acceptance

In this segment, Ryan Holiday emphasizes the importance of accepting reality as it is, rather than how we wish it to be. He shares a conversation with a friend about adapting to different circumstances, illustrating the Stoic principle of 'dressing for the weather'—being prepared for whatever life throws our way while maintaining a sense of inner peace.

"time is ticking by now in this very moment how am I spending it there's a sound timer oh yeah yeah that's beautiful it sounds to remind me of that very very fate of all these things Ryan what is the w..."

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1:06:51 - 1:08:10
1:19 duration208 words

The Fragility of Control

Holiday reflects on the balance between having high standards and the fragility that can come from needing things to go a certain way. He discusses how Stoicism teaches us to focus on what we can control while also recognizing that some preferences are natural. This duality allows for resilience in the face of life's unpredictability.

"what I mean it's like like getting this big fight to leave the house and then we get there and then we're like waiting in the car five minutes to go in you know or whatever right like uh or you're so ..."

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1:08:10 - 1:09:55
1:45 duration353 words

Legacy and Life's Purpose

In this poignant segment, Ryan Holiday contemplates what he would say on his deathbed, emphasizing the importance of living a life of purpose and contribution. He reflects on the lessons learned from Stoic philosophers and the value of reminding ourselves that life is finite, urging listeners to make the most of their time and leave a positive impact on others.

"like the root of so much of the tension or problems that we we have and the question I ask is why why do I need them to be a certain way yeah you don't you go I need everything to be a certain way or ..."

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1:09:55 - 1:11:35
1:40 duration299 words

The Essence of Parental Love

Holiday shares heartfelt insights on parenting, emphasizing unconditional love and pride. He stresses the importance of conveying to children that their worth is inherent and not conditional on achievements. This message serves as a reminder of the fundamental values that should guide our relationships and interactions with loved ones.

"I'm at my best but what if that routine becomes almost a religion which becomes almost a kind of fragility you know that's the problem [ __ ] [ __ ] what am I gonna do I need I need my special socks y..."

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1:11:35 - 1:12:50
1:14 duration191 words

Living in the Bonus

In this reflective segment, Ryan Holiday discusses the feeling of living in the 'bonus' phase of life, where he feels he has achieved his goals and can appreciate each day as a gift. He contrasts this with earlier pressures he faced, highlighting the importance of recognizing and celebrating the time we have, rather than feeling burdened by unmet expectations.

"start to feel warm and then I get distracted you know like you can you can know what it's nice to have but not need it of all the of all the things that you know you've read about in um stoic philosop..."

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1:14:59 - 1:16:52
1:52 duration272 words

Living in the Bonus

Ryan Holiday reflects on what it means to live a successful life, emphasizing the importance of feeling fulfilled and having checked off personal goals. He shares his perspective on waking up without the pressure of unfulfilled tasks, feeling grateful for the extra time he has to enjoy life. This segment highlights the significance of recognizing achievements and living with a sense of abundance.

"given thing at Birth right and so I don't know I meant I might just take one one extra shot at that if this um if you want to be successful at that point when you're laying there on your deathbed yeah..."

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1:16:52 - 1:18:05
1:12 duration240 words

The Diary of a CEO

In this segment, Ryan announces his new book, 'The Diary of a CEO: The 33 Laws for Business and Life.' He discusses the insights gained from his podcast and experiences in business, encouraging listeners to explore these laws for personal and professional growth. This announcement underscores the value of learning from others and applying wisdom to achieve greatness.

"I think ladies and gentlemen I'm interrupting this broadcast with a very special announcement two years ago I started writing a book based on everything I've learned from doing this podcast and meetin..."

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1:18:05 - 1:19:01
0:56 duration222 words

The Role of AI in Writing

Ryan Holiday shares his thoughts on the impact of artificial intelligence on writing and creativity. He discusses his experiences with AI tools like ChatGPT, emphasizing the importance of human intention and refinement in the creative process. This segment explores the balance between utilizing technology and maintaining the essence of human creativity.

"very special book a quick word on huel as you know they're a sponsor of this podcast and I'm an investor in the company one of the things I've never really explained is how I came to have a relationsh..."

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1:19:01 - 1:20:02
1:00 duration225 words

Finding Meaning Beyond Work

Responding to a thought-provoking question about life without work, Ryan reflects on his daily routine and the activities that bring him joy and fulfillment. He emphasizes the importance of family, writing, and personal challenges, suggesting that meaning can be found in simple, everyday actions rather than traditional work. This segment encourages listeners to consider what truly matters in their lives.

"it a chance give it a shot let me you know what you think we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest not knowing who they're leaving it for a..."

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1:20:02 - 1:21:58
1:56 duration339 words

The Future of Work and AI

Ryan discusses the potential future where artificial intelligence may replace traditional jobs, pondering the implications for society. He raises questions about universal basic income and the search for meaning in a world dominated by technology. This segment invites listeners to think critically about the evolving landscape of work and the human experience.

"I like that I don't think I would make that many radical changes in my life like I wake up early I go outside and spend time with my kids I take them to school and I sit down and I write and I write f..."

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1:21:58 - 1:24:18
2:19 duration497 words

The Impact of Stoic Wisdom

In this heartfelt conclusion, Ryan reflects on the profound impact of his work and the importance of Stoic philosophy in people's lives. He expresses gratitude for the messages he receives from readers and listeners, highlighting the timeless relevance of Stoic teachings. This segment serves as a reminder of the power of wisdom and its ability to transform lives.

"it's what the role of the human is and so I I haven't seen a ton of change in my life and that I haven't been here for 80 years but you know I remember when Google books came out and a bunch of author..."