"finding people who are high agency and work with urgency if I was hiring five people today like those are like some of the top two characteristics that I would look for in people because you can take ..."

"situations today my guest is Logan kpatrick Logan is head of developer relations at open aai where he supports developers building on open AIS apis and J GPT before open aai Logan was a machine learni..."

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"docomo thank you so much for being here welcome to the podcast thanks for having me Lenny I'm super excited I want to start with the elephant in the room room which I think the elephant is actually le..."

"Sam and all those things what was it like and is there a story maybe you could share that maybe people haven't heard about what it was like on the inside of what was going on yeah it was it was defini..."

"going to launch like an AI sales agent like that's just not what we're building towards and companies who are and have some domain specific knowledge and they're really excited about that problem spac..."

"get to that later but I'm glad we touched that I imagine that's on the minds of many developers and Founders kind of along the same lines there's a lot of talk about how chat GPT and gpts and many of ..."

"really excited also just like as this more time passes between the release of this technology for us to get more like empirical studies because like I feel this for myself like as somebody who's an en..."

"leverage things and I think now with gpts people are able to like go in and solve some of these more tactical problems I think one of the general challenges with chat GPT is like it gives like a decen..."

"I get there's like engineering copil type tooling is there anything else that comes to mind just to give people a little inspiration of like wow that's an interesting way I should be thinking about us..."

"a bunch of the examples from that and went in and put some of those suggestions into the gbt and then when now when I do any of my planning of like I want to build this thing I put it through and and ..."

"what is PRT engineering this term that people might be hearing and then even more interestingly just like what advice do you have for people to get better at writing prompts for say Chad GPT or throug..."

"the model so I think the thing that is going to help solve this problem and we already kind of do this in the context of Dolly so when you go to the image generation model that we have do and you say ..."

"I did this for you I was like I'm interviewing Logan Kilpatrick he's head of developer relations at openi on my podcast give me 10 questions to ask him in the style of Tyler Cowan who I think is the b..."

"of value if we got t-shirts printed they should say like context is is all you need context is the only thing that matters like it's it's such an important piece of getting a language model to do anyt..."

"actually make a material difference for you but for like something small and tactical it might not okay good tip amazing okay we've talked about gpts I think maybe it might be helpful to describe what..."

"unlocking and what's been most exciting to me actually is like the non-developer Persona is now empowered to like go and solve these like really really really more challeng in Problems by giving the m..."

"probably like the most the most exciting thing to me for people who aren't who aren't developers awesome zappier is always in there getting there connecting things yeah they're great uh so the one tha..."

"hard and customers want you to show them your product not just talk about it or gate it that's why product for teams such as atlassian Carta and retool use arcade to tell better stories within their h..."

"what it's like to work at open Ai and how the product team operates and how the company operates so you worked at your two previous companies were apple and NASA which are not known for moving fast an..."

"people because it's you you can you can take on the world if you have people who have high agency and like not needing to either like you know get 50 people's different consensus because like you have..."

"from developers that people wanted these higher levels of abstraction on top of our existing apis and like a bunch of folks on the team just like came together and were like hey let's let's put togeth..."

"we think we need to build this let's just go and build it I imagine there was still a road map and priorities and goals and things that that team had how does how does Road mapping and prioritization ..."

"deciding any any of these problems I think on the developer side there's also these like core tenants of like reliability like hey you know it would be awesome if we had additional apis that did all t..."

"new models new modalities whatever it is and then like as time goes on there's like all of this turmoil and change and it's interesting to have like mechanisms to be like hey how do we how do we updat..."

"driven company along those lines I don't know how much you can sh about all the stuff but how do you measure success for things that you launch I know there's this ultimate goal AGI is there some way ..."

"bunch of interesting interesting angles like that as well I don't know if I've heard of a more uh ambitious vision for a company to build artificial general intelligence I love that I imagine many com..."

"quickly coordinate where like it's actually faster to send someone a slack message sometimes than it would be to like walk over to their desk because they're on slack and they're going to they're to b..."

"point whatever you can share just to give people a sense of the scale yeah I think the last public number was something around like 750 um near the near the end of of last year 780 or something like t..."

"it's really interesting I just saw this thread from one of our one of our research folks who was talking about how in a world where you're constrain by the amount of GPU capacity that you have as a as..."

"really just like text in text out or I guess like three months ago was just text in text out we started to change that with now you can do the voice mode and now you can generate images and now you ca..."

"because very like narrow vertical tools are what's going to be like a huge unlock for them so in that last case a classic horizontal product problem where it does so many things and people don't know ..."

"tip that when you're Building Products today you should build towards a GPT 5 future not based on limitations of GPT for today so to help people do that what should people think about that might be be..."

"problems and I think like going back to like vertical use cases like I think people who are solving very specific use cases are just now going to be able to do that much more effectively like I don't ..."

"think a lot of our be B2B customers are using the API to like build stuff so I think that's one angle of it I think if you're a chubbt B2B customer we sell teams which is the ability to like get multi..."

"there's a launch happening tomorrow I think after we're recording this can you talk about what is new what's coming out I think this is going to come out a couple weeks after recording but just what s..."

"super useful and people are doing a ton of this is like trying to ground these models in reality in what they know to be true like we know all the things from your podcast to be at least something tha..."

"advantage and and also like thinking about how to take your use case to the next level like i' I've tried a ton of chat examples that are like very very basic and like providing a little bit of value ..."

"way to actually do that Twitter LinkedIn uh my my email should be findable somewhere I don't want to say it and then I get spammed with a bunch of emails like you should be able to find my email if yo..."

"excited about that the other one is uh that I always come back to is why we sleep um I yeah sleep sleep and SC sleep science are so cool um if you don't care about your sleep like it's one of the the ..."

"candidates that you're interviewing yeah I'm I'm always curious to hear what people's like the thing that they so strongly believe that uh people disagree with them on what do you look for in an answe..."

"helping me sleep better and so we link to look at that sleep mask look at that adult uh two more questions do you have a favorite life motto that you often come back to share with friends or family ei..."

"at it I love that I could see why you are successful at open Ai and why you're a good fit there final question so I asked open a I asked Chad GPT uh for a very silly question give me a bunch of silly ..."

"don't work well in chat gbt like I oftentimes like see people be like ah this thing didn't work really well and the the key and I think we as open AI need to do a better job of like messaging this to ..."