"the following is a conversation with sagar anjeri he is a dc based political correspondent host of the rising with crystal ball and host of the realignment podcast with marshall kozlov he has intervie..."

"this world than a book about hitler so thank you so much i i've gotten a gift when i was what were you talking about yes blind right the watch from joe rogan and this almost beats it so uh so tell me ..."

"that's something i often think about because we're just reading books about these people i think about what like jeffrey epstein for example oh yeah like evil people not evil but people have done evil..."

"you were recording then it's like offline and i can tell you well here's the thing though because that's another part of it because that two hours i would say like half that was not on the record so l..."

"first of all that make the argument that he's the greatest president in history like i've heard this argument being made and i mean i don't know what the first of all i don't care like you can't make ..."

"of the modern era i mean obama was a student of history like he used to have presidential biographers and people over and i mean famously like robert de caro one of my favorite presidential biographer..."

"i i tend to uh see the role the president is in part like inspire in chief sort of uh to be able to i mean that's what great leaders do like ceos of companies and so on establish a vision a clear visi..."

"i i really do like basically 1976 i studied trump a lot and i think he's basically been the core of who he is and elements of that ever since he built that cent you know the ice rink in central park a..."

"study i if we um if we stick on uh hitler for just a minute uh what lessons do you take from that time do you think it's a unique moment in human history that world war ii i mean both stalin and hitle..."

"within that system i was just talking to my girlfriend about this yesterday it's kind of funny like i read these i'm obsessed with these books um by robert carro the biographies of lyndon johnson he's..."

"not have the results that they predicted i in terms of like things being unchanged for the past hundred years and so on can you um like wikipedia style or maybe like in in a musical form like i'm only..."

"a balance of power there's because we have multiple branches there's attention and a balance to it as designed by those original documents uh what which is the most dysfunctional the branches which is..."

"we have less democratic checks on the people and the systems that are on autopilot and i would say that basically since 2008 we have voted every single time to disrupt that system except in the case o..."

"the best example for this would be during the ukraine you know gate with trump and all that with the impeachment now i'm not talking about the politics here but the most revealing thing that happened ..."

"tasks but you did say that the presidency has power but you're saying that more power than the others and but that power has to be coupled with like focused intentionality like you have to keep hammer..."

"it's not like a yes or no question it's every single thing that hits the president's desk is incredibly hard to do and obama actually even said and this was a very revealing quote about how how he thi..."

"simultaneously the nationalist case against trump yeah and the progressive case against obama yes the progressive people were like why the fuck are you hiring all these clinton people in order to run ..."

"look at it in terms of distribution um which is that how is money distributed with an artist within our society because i firmly believe that politics this is going to get complicated but i think poli..."

"same thing so yeah i want to hear because you know people who met him and the only person i know who met him was eric weinstein i've heard his right oh boy so i listen i'm still lynn and eric is fasci..."

"have like if a really okay this is this is weird to say but i have an ability okay i think women are beautiful i like women but like if if like a supermodel came to me or something like like i'm able ..."

"like have quite a lot of power without explicitly having like a strategy meeting and i think a single person or yeah i think a single person can do that or can start that ball rolling and over time it..."

"just to see you know people i look up to not have the level of integrity i thought they would or like the strength of character all those kinds of things and it seems like you should be able to to see..."

"[Laughter] then it's just the art of conversation that is just like the art of just like manipulating people by making them feel good about like the exciting stuff they're doing listen man academics a..."

"uh you know i that's i don't know if there's something more nefarious than that i i i hope not but maybe i'm surprised and in fact the half the population of the world is pedophiles no i i think it's ..."

"which is that you're setting it all up and creating those preconditions or like prince andrew do i think prince andrew knew that virginia gouffrey was underage i don't know probably knew she was prett..."

"saying they don't have like zero patience for it which is like maybe in that case yeah it's deserved but everything else you really like have empathy like consider the f you have okay this is weird to..."

"pro-worker message which was anti-immigration it was its pillar but alongside of it was a rejection of free trade with china and generally of the political correctness and globalism which has been com..."

"culture which is that the culture war is so hot that negative partisanship is at such high levels all of the vote is geared upon what the other guy might do in office and there's a poll actually just ..."

"votes away from winning the presidency across three states like i don't none of our popular discourse reflects that very stark reality and i think so much of it is people really hate liberals like the..."

"and apparently whatever liberal is i mean lib you know you literally liberal has become equivalent to white supremacists in the power of negativity it arouses i don't even know what those i mean hones..."

"how do we fix this what did i say about the stimulus checks stimulus checks have 80 approval rating so that's the type of thing if i was joe biden and i wanted to actually heal this country that's the..."

"one concern that aoc says after the first round of checks got out oh the checks didn't go to illegal immigrants i'm like are you out of your fucking mind like this is the most popular policy america h..."

"ever coming out on the other side of this he decided not to do that i think biden was again handed that like a scepter almost it's like all you have to do all america wants is for you to raise it up h..."

"by manufacturing like we are manufacturing most of the world's vaccine because we're bad motherfuckers yeah and without maybe uh with more eloquence than that and and just do that why haven't we seen ..."

"politics works maybe he gets one more maybe one he gets a second reconciliation bill then you're running for midterms it's over i believe that by trying to change the paradigm of our politics leaning ..."

"there's just a lot of disincentives to not stay without there's a lot of incentives to not stray from the traditional path yeah is it also possible that the a students are not participating like we dr..."

"right just a completely one of my favorite things that he said on the debate stage he's like look at us we're all wearing makeup it's cr you know yeah he like he like brought that that he brought that..."

"instagram and everybody on the right is like trying to copy her like matt gates like i want to be the conservative aoc i'm like it's just not gonna happen dude like it you just don't have it like what..."

"yes slow clap yes i know i know uh yang gang uh forever okay but uh yeah i mean my worst fear i i prefer yeah uh uh andrew yang kind of free uh improvisational idea exchange all that versus aoc who i ..."

"that's exactly what you're saying yeah this process grooms you over time it's you see the same thing in academia actually which is very interesting is the the process of getting tenure there's this it..."

"with andre yang it was uh it was he was being suppressed by a bunch of different forces the mainstream media and all just the democratic just that whole process didn't didn't like the the honesty that..."

"msnbc but i hated it i just hated doing it and i did not want to be a company man like a washington man who's one of those guys who like brags to his friends about how many times he's been on fox or w..."

"unserved by the corporate media cnn and these people possibly who feel unserved um in the you know the faculty like if you are an up and comer who wants to teach as many young people as possible i thi..."

"world-class researcher and now he's doing youtube yeah i see him on instagram yeah and he's great so he switched so he not just does instagram he now has a podcast and he's doing he's changing the nat..."

"it's not this influencer one of the things that really bothers me yeah i've gotten a chance no i should be careful here i don't wanna i love everybody but you know these people who talk about like you..."

"that's all the data we have that's what i can point to if trump runs he will be the nominee and he will be he will be the 2024 nominee i just don't know if he wants to it it really depends like do you..."

"side can uh take the well how could you run against the sitting vice president you know it's like if joe joe biden has a 98 approval rating in the democratic party if he says she is my heir i think en..."

"forget is you know who came in second to trump ted cruz and the reason why is because ted cruz was the second most hated guy by liberals in america a second to trump they have nothing in policy in com..."

"it's kind of like when i met joe rogan i'm like holy shit that's yeah that's i don't feel that way when i meet mitt romney or tom cotton or josh hall i met all of them um but there's a lot of celebrit..."

"hadn't happened in my lifetime except for 911 and even then you could kind of see that as an opportunity for somebody like obama to come in and fix it but then he didn't do it and then trump didn't do..."

"things maybe obama will be remembered for being the first african-american president but then like that's yeah that's fascinating to think about oh man even trump will be like oh okay that guy yeah li..."

"things this might be remembered for that but every all the political bickering all that nonsense that might might be very well forgotten one way to think about it is that the internet is so young yeah..."

"which holds cultural power and elite power and more importantly money right over you and i that's the battle that we're all gonna do do you think unfettered conversations have a chance to win this bat..."

"i forgive me but then i think you and i have no you're right in in terms of uh your podcast like people are not going to be like uh they're going to cite the new york times versus what you said on the..."

"would i don't know if that's her own thing yeah yeah so she she was very successful there why the hell did she join the new york times with the new podcast why is michael barbaro not do his own thing ..."

"succeed and i told him that when i met him i was like dude like i listened to his podcast when i was like young and like and i remember like when i got to meet him and all that and i told him this on ..."

"so then okay american airlines just confirmed it's a legitimate transmission fbi then the faa comes out and says we were tracking no objects in the vicinity of this plane at the time of the transmissi..."

"both there's so many different levels of classification that people need to understand i mean look i read john podesta he was the chief of staff to bill clinton he's a big ufo guy he he tried like him..."

"but he's overlooked for so many of the incredible things that he did with civil rights nobody else could have done it no no one else could have gotten it done and the second thing is we gotta get you ..."

"important shift in human history world war ii is like a consequence of that yeah it's so so i have a degree in security studies from georgetown and one of the thing is that we would focus a lot on tha..."

"so it had a very basic begin and end begin liberate france invade germany destroy hitler reoccupy rebuild world war one what are you fighting for like are you i mean and nobody even knew you can go th..."

"another war in a slow burn of ethnic conflict which bubbles up so that's why i look at that one even because it's it's more typical of warfare yeah how it works exactly yeah it's it's kind of interest..."

"short and there's a clear aggression it's interesting that dan uh carlin has been avoiding hitler as well yeah probably for this reason probably for this reason yeah i mean but it's it's complicated t..."

"quote-unquote of history and i wish more people in history understood it that way he was an inspiration to me i mean i do some videos sometimes on my instagram now where i'll like i'll do like a book ..."

"there's a feeling you get the feeling of what it was like to be there exactly you know you're becoming quickly becoming more and more popular speaking about political issues in part do you feel a burd..."

"comfortable and i knew that i could still be fine in terms of my numbers whatever because a lot many people knew me who were on the left and if you know my right listeners abandoned me so be it i was ..."

"it's true freedom i now say i say exactly what i think and it's not that i wasn't doing that before it's maybe um i would avoid certain topics or like i would think about things more from a team persp..."

"anymore this is probably one of the first political related politics-related conversations we've had uh i mean unless you caught michael malus who he was great yeah i he's the funny guy he's not so mu..."

"which i think is really yeah well me being an idiot right and being curious about anarchy seems useful so i like those kinds of books that's russian heritage man yeah anarchist 101 yeah i mean it's a ..."

"like weird fail son nicholas who is kind of a good guy but also terrible and also russian autocracy itself is terrible and then i just became obsessed with the question of like why did the bolshevik r..."

"autocracy and like actually and i'm like it was there like they didn't even remove serfdom to like the civil war in america like that's crazy like you know and nobody really talks about it and i just ..."

"almost would be the american story yeah oh easily i mean there's a world where and i don't have all the characters there's like karensky and then there was like uh whoever lenin's number two stalin's ..."

"idea of feeling encircled by nato and all that you have to understand like russian defense theory all the way up going back to the tsars has always been defense in depth in terms of having estonia lit..."

"you are clearly fascinated by power do you think power changed putin do you think power changes leaders if you look at the great leaders in history whether it's lbj fdr do you think power really chang..."

"i don't know sometimes i feel like putin does that for show he doesn't seem like somebody who indulges in all that stuff or maybe we just don't see it like i don't know well i don't i it's very diffic..."

"the corruption and the control of the media that results in misinformation you know those those are the bickering of the day just like we're saying what will actually be remembered about this moment i..."

"because it sure as hell seems like the motivation was at least in part the driven by the idea by ideas not self interest of like power for lenin it was i think he was a true believer and an actual nar..."

"um some you know that's such a compelling narrative that people like to say like people that's the conspiratorial mindset i think that skepticism was really powerful and important to have because it's..."

"uh i hope he makes it so that those johnson books second but can i ask you a question about those books yes what the hell do you fit into so many pages everything man let me tell you this so i'll just..."

"which froze in the ice um off the coast of antarctica in 1914 and they didn't have radios or the last exploration a last one without the age of radio and he happens to freeze in the ice and then the s..."

"really interesting concept i think it's on netflix and yeah i agree with him 100 which is that the first guys to make like for example robert frost who uh uh went to australia sorry to antarctica the ..."

"eat each other yeah we were well yeah we remember the ones who made it but there are uh and that would be the story of mars that will be the story of ours so but and nevertheless that's the interestin..."

"what the benefits will be for earth or in general what's struggling get from the moon what did we get from apollo right technically and there were a lot of socialists at the time making this argument ..."

"go into space that's how i would put it you should run for president i'm just broke space man i love face no you're pro doing difficult things and pushing uh exploring the world in all of its forms i ..."

"100 um another one is definitely born to run for the same reason by christopher mcdougall which is that i'm just gonna listen to this whole podcast next week you have to well you should because it you..."

"the you are from texas yes what do you make of the future of texas politically culturally uh economically i am in part moving well i'm moving to austin congrats but i'm also doing the eric weinstein a..."

"and uh it seems like texas is a nice place like having a austin which is like a kind of uh this weird i hope it stays weird man i love weird people know about that but we can get it but as this uh hop..."

"the texas i grew up in is over it is not a deep red state in any sense in any sense of the term the number one u-haul route in the country pre-pandemic already was san francisco to austin okay so like..."

"has made it uh i'll put it in this way much more uh much much more attractive to me than the place that i grew up and from my perspective uh well first of all i love uh some of the the cowboy things t..."

"their own garage in austin which is the next facebook twitter that's how it happens this is why i'm much more skeptical of miami there's a whole like tech miami crew i'm like yeah like there's no univ..."