"i mean i've definitely experienced moments where i didn't want to do anything but chess i also say that's pretty universal i think if you want to be that the best at anything you do or any sport you h..."

"you just got back from italy what's the most memorable thing i was just there recently as well it was very chaotic because we went out on a whim and we only had our first hotel book and then we rented..."

"your hands a lot you gotten you you picked up some of the the italian hand gestures i did we did get yelled at by a lot of italians the old italian grandmas would come to us after breakfast because we..."

"question uh so the romance languages so i think french is up there as like number one number one in terms of i don't know this was ranking them oh you guys speak italian or no not italian but we studi..."

"when when did you first let's say when did you first fall in love with chess so we both started playing when we were pretty young around six years old that's when our dad taught us and i enjoyed playi..."

"experience with loving in high school is very opposite from alex's but right my sister was playing and my dad taught me when i was andrea was cool in high school unlike me you are uh i i wouldn't say ..."

"it mean to pass a rating so i was stuck at 1900. 1900 is 100 points off of expert yeah usually when you reach 2000 you're considered an expert which is the rating andre i was going for okay expert tha..."

"right because it's like so you have to beat people your same level that's how the number increases exactly yeah and you beat a bunch of people in the tournament right that are higher than that very lu..."

"repackaging what you love for people in a more general audience to enjoy do you feel like it's a trap a little bit as you evolve like uh oh i think social media oh sorry go ahead social media in gener..."

"figure out how to keep true to what we want to do yeah see the way i think about it is yeah there's a lot of stuff you can create and yeah the mr bestification process but also i think about what are ..."

"and i've seen a lot of youtubers who have done interviews about how you know they didn't love the kind of content they did at at first but what they're doing right now is really meaningful so i like t..."

"laughing a little bit when i was listening to the magnus episode and the first 10 minutes you guys are talking about soccer football two robots seem like humans yeah i was like let's have some fun a c..."

"suck at puzzles too yeah they like that i don't have to study at all it's just it's fun and uh but i think the lesson there that's really powerful is he spends most of the day thinking about chess bec..."

"to not take drugs they drink a lot yeah they drink so much it's actually crazy for how good they're able to play chess when they do but when it comes to things like psychedelics or other things they u..."

"very short time controls one time i was challenging this grandmaster on stream and we were playing bullet chess which is one minute chess and i was giving him handicaps and i said okay you have to tak..."

"see i saw on the streams you actually keep talking while playing chess it seems like yeah that's my result that doesn't help my results it doesn't help the content not the game yeah exactly but you ca..."

"that does help what does it feel like to play a higher rated player what's the experience of that in like uh playing somebody like magnus so it depends on how much higher rated than you they are if it..."

"like i i would add it's kind of different for me if they're someone who's significantly higher rated so let's say more than like 300 points or you're playing magnus what i notice is i just feel lost s..."

"in which quote black allows white to advance their pawns to the center of the board in the first two moves i is there any truth to this so the kings and what is it probably is my most played opening u..."

"position it's very asymmetrical although a lot of people now stop playing into the classical kings indian even though computers give it a big advantage and they play these slower lines in the king's i..."

"fun this it's like there's more stuff in danger they're not because if it's if it's like this everything's like trapped like you can't do anything everything's blocked yeah blocked off yeah because yo..."

"usually what you teach new students to try to cheese their friends because then they feel really excited that they know this new trap where you bring the bishop and the queen out and you try to check ..."

"meet each other and a couple of nights we love the chess card the pawns met after midnight yeah yeah i'm gonna romanticize the game a bit exactly uh okay cool so so like there's uh if you bring out th..."

"that you have the pawns to defend you know there is like rules like this but i always wonder because i build chess engines but then you start to wonder like why is it that positionally these things ar..."

"based off of knowledge that humans have from playing chess for years that we just thought is how you're supposed to play whereas alpha zero just learned from playing the game so many times and came up..."

"don't play the kings indeed anymore but not to ruin the fun right the love hate relationship truly the reality but that's like the higher level players do or does everybody yeah if you're studying ope..."

"with the king's indian so there's a complete asymmetry towards the king side on the left side of the board is a ton of pieces yeah exactly um wow he moved the night like three times in a row and that'..."

"forward okay yep so white is just continuing the king side plan now it's the first is that like the first piece i think that's taken in the game yep that's the first trade so it begins exactly hikaru ..."

"study games use your own mind but do you also use computers to build up your intuition of like looking at a position like this and what would a computer do and then try to understand why it wants to d..."

"being like oh okay that makes sense i feel like a computer will take you down with some weird lines potentially like sacrifice like why the hell am i sacrificing this well we'll get to the pretty sacr..."

"how hard is blindfold just have you tried like are you able to keep them i've played blindfold chest before um for me it's pretty hard it's not a muscle that i've trained as much and i'm very visual w..."

"there's certain players who are really good and they can even play blindfold chess and play multiple games at the same time um so i would be curious how they do it but usually when you're thinking of ..."

"forget i actually forget about an entire branch of things that i was supposed to be worried about it happens very often yeah if you spend a bunch of time calculating in a position let's say like when ..."

"everyone so yes um okay cool okay so we see a few trades happening on the queen side where he had to go for those otherwise he's in trouble um and this is where the game oh sorry this is where he gets..."

"primarily by black done by the two pawns and then and the knight and the light squared bishop is always extremely important so you don't want to trade this in the king's indian because it's very helpf..."

"you're saying the computer might say that the white is actually a slight favorite here yeah especially exactly okay so then uh white makes a little bit of room by moving the rook right and the attack ..."

"be given here for free but the idea is you're giving your own peace because you want to have more space and open up the king which is what you're always trying to do when you have a king side you're t..."

"danger right it's so interesting and uh knight takes what upons so now his queen is attacked twice and he doesn't care he takes the bishop and he's still threatening the checkmate on g2 and then the q..."

"yeah what's the correct way of of of saying that because i was i played uh albus i played him in chess and then i quickly realized like from his facial expressions that i should have like stopped play..."

"where it's obvious they can't win because the kids might make errors yeah and so might as well that was the interesting thing about i think game six of the previous world championship with magnus was ..."

"to win and that's where you're usually supposed to resign so what do you find beautiful about this game is it the uh the the attacking chess and just the the asymmetry of it it's the asymmetry and it'..."

"that position uh how do you train chess these days what's um do you practice do you do deliberate practice i mean you're in this tough position because you're also a creator and educator and entertain..."

"tournament and then mix up the rest with like maybe some end games maybe some positional chess so what does tactics uh preparation looks like do you do like a puzzle like uh like a random puzzle thing..."

"trained with that muscle but andrea is actually very good at finding ways to balance and still study while also doing content yeah so what you're able to do both that's the hard thing i was getting ve..."

"analyzing your losses and your tournament games and first you sit and you look through your mistake yourself and try to see if you can find the better moves and then that's why you would check over wi..."

"yeah it really depends what you're training because i used to think the same but it depends what you're weak you're at because if you're doing the really difficult puzzles you're training for like vis..."

"um but it's always kids or when i was a high school girl it's the younger boys who are really cocky and when they win they start rubbing it in your face and they're yawning and looking around when lik..."

"bored kids yes exactly what was the because you you played a bunch of uh people for for your channel uh what was the most like memorable what's the most fun most intense there's a bunch of fun ones yo..."

"professional chess hustlers even if they're not necessarily you know a top player but they play chess every single day and so many of them learned chess by themselves and never had a professional coac..."

"oh okay what were your names what were the code names oh my god i think it was edna edna and i had a really uh i can't remember the other one but it was embarrassing because we were walking so slowly ..."

"andrea is really good at opening so i just start playing bad openings to get her out of her preparation because i don't like opening theory very much i just like playing the game and getting into midd..."

"also the atmosphere and the people who you're playing with and that's one of the things that i think you see less when you're just thinking of chess as a competitive thing you've uh you mentioned a fe..."

"what is he doing but there's this 13 year old kid who's just playing incredibly well and then that also happened before bobby's started really rapidly improving at chess not that people knew that but ..."

"on and it's also sad i think kind of what ended up happening in his life and the slowly going crazier is there some aspect of chess that opens the door to crazy like like how challenging it is on you ..."

"because it's so deep and so interesting and i mean i've definitely experienced moments where i didn't want to do anything but chess and i had that before i went to college where i just wanted to take ..."

"maybe i'm like misinterpreting it but um that gets that that creates a huge amount of stress over like thousands of games especially in a young person and that blundering is such a painful experience ..."

"shouldn't but it just cuts so deep um and then i actually ended up qualifying for the olympiad team but i didn't want to play because i didn't have enough time to train and the losses are so painful t..."

"because uh i think when i was really young i met somebody uh who was able to play blindfold chess yeah they were teaching me they were laying in there on the couch trash drinking and smoking and they ..."

"very intellectually rewarding and i think that's what people are addicted to and the self-improvement but you can get that from a lot of other things as well well i think for me what i was inspired by..."

"it's it's harder it's a harder and weirder pursuit don't you feel like you kind of did that with computer science or ai related things like getting that level of damn good that's one of the cool thing..."

"completely different in chess it's like um it's like an olympic sport like there's no perfection is a requirement as a necessity what do you think is that pursuit for you like why did you decide to st..."

"decisions in the in the week after that do you think you couldn't have made those decisions if you were less hard on yourself me personally no i'm too lazy okay so you really need to be angry at yours..."

"thursday at 8pm and it was one of the things that brought me a lot of joy and actually i speaking of depression did struggle for with you know at least 10 years of my life and it was one of those thin..."

"so somehow having failed before and going through failure and knowing that it'll be okay made me more likely to just try something that was a very very weird job goodbye camera i thought it died yeah ..."

"obviously to make sure it goes away and i've also tried to spin it as depression is one of the hardest things i've had to deal with but also one of the biggest motivators because if i just am left wit..."

"what has playing chess taught you about life has hasn't made you better at life in any kind of way or has it made you worse you know a lot of people kind of romanticize the idea that chess is kind of ..."

"so it's more like exercising your brain and staying sharp and then also applying that to other things whereas if instead of playing chess or watching tv or something like that you'd probably end up be..."

"do to always be having fun being wild and so on or is it actually the opposite like is it a source of comfort to know that there's so many cool people out there that are giving you their love and it s..."

"grateful that i have my sister because i know that i'm not the only person going through it um and yeah i know that most of my creator friends feel very lonely in that process because they don't have ..."

"dropped by like 70 and then you see that and you're trying your best um and you just kind of have to deal with it and be like okay i'm just gonna keep persevering and maybe it'll get better that's so ..."

"best with my back against the wall so one of the comforts i have is i don't care if this podcast is popular or not i wanted to not be popular so i don't want it to make money failing lex yeah i want i..."

"people think views are even if it's not right and because and primarily because they don't have any other signal of what's a good job i think the much better signal is people that are close to you you..."

"reward and making sure that as we are learning how to create better content it's still something that is going to be meaningful long term well ultimately you know you inspire a lot of young people uh ..."

"that's sometimes a bad thing where you have less freedom to make mistakes yeah you have two choices so one you put up a wall and say i don't give a shit what people think i don't like doing that becau..."

"like you don't have to be perfect you don't have to you can be a weird a giant weird mess and it's okay it's a it's a balance i think when you start to delve into political topics into topics that rea..."

"sense it's like a mini war and so i have to decide whether i want to talk to to him or not and those kinds of things you have to make those kinds of decisions for now you guys are not playing chess wi..."

"when you're in front of a camera for that long because you do get scared of going into places where you want to learn but you might not be the best in because it's harder to learn in public than do so..."

"channel overall so that was a learning lesson for sure it's nice because there are some intersections when i have tried new things that i really enjoy and it pays off but that's more uh less often so ..."

"romanians like it's very rare when there's like a famous romanian who accomplishes something which is why like right now andrew tate's the most famous romanian but he's banned for a bad reason exactly..."

"i think it's a double-edged sword and most of these things are not as black and white as they seem you know because on one hand i don't agree with his beliefs and i think he said a lot of things that ..."

"the same time it's a lot of bad publicity people see your podcast they say wow like they don't if they don't know you and they don't know why you're interviewing him and they don't listen they'll see ..."

"joe rogan got in in trouble over an n-word uh controversy earlier in the year and joe's a good friend of mine and i said that i stand with joe that he's not a racist or something like that and within ..."

"half sentences that i've said about either putin or zelensky where they have hate towards me because of what i said either both directions i have now accumulated very passionate people that some call ..."

"take big risks it doesn't matter and that's the other thing with being canceled nowadays because everyone's attention is much more short-sighted you can get cancelled and then it'll blow over in three..."

"all time and some studies say things like how there's raiding inflation but i looked into some of them and they basically calculated people's um play in over the years and it seems that there hasn't b..."

"yeah but i mean the case that people make for magnus on many i mean what alex said but but also magnus plays a lot and he doesn't he plays a lot blitz bullet and like he puts he gets drunk and like he..."

"100 in terms of just the the the scope the scale of the variety of genius exhibited by magnus and he might not even be done yet i don't know if you'll ever hit 2 900 but we can't judge yet because he'..."

"view to people who don't really so like you know what breaks the popular culture and you think of what names people know who don't play chess like bobby fischer did it most people know casper over mag..."

"meet him in a place that makes sense you know change the world championship so feed it changing it somehow that a loss for that or having other really respected tournaments that become like an annual ..."

"then of course that that's like then you do have to play hundreds of games and that kind of stuff right uh so i but i think it's great that the world number one is um struggling with these questions b..."

"no i hope that the best people in the world the two best people in the world are the ones that sit down but the person that wins is the person that that's the magic of it nobody knows who's going to w..."

"uh you know if there's a few doors to go into the one that i'd want to go into least that's the one that usually is the right one afterwards i will learn something from it uh the david gaga's thing i ..."

"injured this challenge no it's different i keep getting keep getting injured doing some stuff but this particular thing i started doing the you don't realize that you have to really ramp up so i got u..."

"to not make it into content um you know i recorded everything so maybe one day i could publish it i recorded it mostly because it's really hard to count yeah when you get exhausted yeah like i just so..."

"like if you don't know how you're gonna get out of it you're gonna have to figure out something profound about yourself and i mean one of the reasons i went to ukraine is i really wanted to uh experie..."

"really love in life which is just like just living just the moment the like the step at a time like it's i think what meditation does and it's most effective it's just that pain is a as a catalyst for..."

"um and i think it's also just very unique to humans and that's what i appreciate about it maybe that's the meaning of life maybe that's what the stoix is searching for andrea alex thank you so much fo..."