Chatted with Joe Carlsmith about whether we can trust power/techno-capital, how to not end up like Stalin in our urge to control the future, gentleness towards the artificial Other, and much more. Check out Joe’s excellent essay series on Otherness and control in the age of AGI: https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/02/otherness-and-control-in-the-age-of-agi/. Enjoy!

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* Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/joe-carlsmith
* Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/joe-carlsmith-otherness-and-control-in-the-age-of-agi/id1516093381?i=1000666255737
* Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0npJsKzUulSHDVAHumXNtO?si=vyKi0z_CRB6inwUBhIfeFA
* Me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp

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00:00:00 - Understanding the Basic Alignment Story
00:44:04 - Monkeys Inventing Humans
00:46:43 - Nietzsche, C.S. Lewis, and AI
01:22:51 - How should we treat AIs
01:52:33 - Balancing Being a Humanist and a Scholar
02:05:02 - Explore exploit tradeoffs and AI