"I am standing on the edge of the cliff the entire night and if I you know mess something up mess it up like what even is a mistake but if I do like a little clunker or whatever it is it's like so what..."

"the following is a conversation with t Wilkenfeld a singer songwriter basist guitarist and a true musician who has recorded and performed with many legendary artists including Jeff Beck Prince Eric lt..."

"Wilkenfeld there's a legendary video of you playing with Jeff Beck we're actually watching it in the background now so for people who don't know Jeff is one of the greatest guitarists ever uh so you'r..."

"no I was excited and passionate and having the having the best time and also you know the fact that he gave me this solo the context of this performance is that this was a Guitar Festival it's one of ..."

"and like and he did and like that he's like bowing like that that that like he didn't have to do that but you really stepped up there it just it just shows what a generous musician he is and that's ev..."

"yeah you know it's interesting you said fear walls you off from the other musicians and what are you afraid of you're afraid of making a mistake you know uh bethoven said to play a wrong note is insig..."

"want you to play safe like just play the pop pot and play it with a great Groove and time and great Dynamics and don't really Veer away from the pot and stuff and and I've done plenty of those gigs to..."

"happening and anytime I'm not doing that it's like it's a waste of everybody's time have you ever messed it up real bad mess what up I mean you know comedians bomb you're a big fan of Comedy yeah have..."

"such that the things I do to compliment him he enjoys and vice versa but it could be two you know very trusting open uh musicians on stage that don't have walls up but their choices are very different..."

"crash after shows I wanted to change that I wanted to always feel like I'm in Flow State so have you succeeded I've gotten a lot better I'm still obviously on the journey but yes so you meditate I thi..."

"and I could tell there was a there was a major difference in the performance so it both connects you and centers you all those things yeah but then when I'm home like I love to meditate and I've tried..."

"17 and that was the first time I'd really gone through the process of grief uh in a in a like in a nonam situation like with friends and mentors and people that I'd created with which is different it'..."

"where I just stayed in my place and didn't want to play a note of music I kind of wanted to just get rid of all my stuff so I I had a friend come over and he's like you should just once you come to Th..."

"different way to unplug because you know previously I may have just gone to a monastery and spent you know weeks at a monasterial months but in this case I was like you know what this is a different k..."

"the loss of these musicians with Comedians and uh I learned a lot it changed my life because I just learned to I learned to laugh at absolutely anything everything I mean my grandpa had a really great..."

"maybe loan it to you for the tour but if you really want it it's yours and I was like oh my God this is like like what a like Mike D is the nicest guy ever um so so that happened so that bass's name i..."

"different from like say somebody that is an instrumental guitarist or something like that that they're they're more focused on whether it's like a kinesthetic thing or like a physical thing or whateve..."

"really special yeah well the mothership has some magic to it too it's really cool it's different totally different vibe but like super awesome you've said that uh Lena Cohen is uh a songwriting inspir..."

"he meant it I always think he doesn't he's trying to convince himself of it it could be both or either you know I mean that's the beautiful thing about poetry and lyric is that it's supposed to be ope..."

"his lyrics and in his live shows you'll see a bunch of songs where it's like new lyrics and he didn't do it because he didn't like the old lyrics he just did it because he could because he's Leonard a..."

"enough well were we saying oh uh what do you think about Hallelujah like what what do you think about the different different songs of his why' you choose chy hotel to perform because I lived there an..."

"roshi test and then what's funny was that the next thing that happened about five minutes later was Leonard Cohen got down on his knees and opened up a jar I'm not kidding you of caviar this is not a ..."

"somehow like there a frequency to which magical things of that nature can happen um divided about that answer because I think just things flowing I don't necess I don't think anything's kind of like p..."

"your future MH so well you had a really interesting trajectory through life uh maybe I just read it that way because I've had a lot of stuff happen to me that's like lucky feels lucky and sometimes I ..."

"loneliness I think that loneliness is a product of feeling separate from the world and separate from others and that the less you experience that separation the less you'll feel lonely how often have ..."

"2017 I felt like I lost a piece of myself that I had given to somebody else and I feel like people feel that in romantic um exchanges whether it's long-term shortterm you give a piece of yourself and ..."

"no losing yeah yeah yeah it's a beautiful way to look at it you said that uh there's something healing about being in an empty hotel room with no attachments except your suitcase you know a lot of peo..."

"tour that I did we didn't have hotels every night we had hotels maybe like once a week and I I hadn't done that before usually it's I'm frequently in hotels so I didn't get that space that I'm really ..."

"the shit silent so they they're all connected through zoom and just doing Sil 12 12 hours a day yeah that's cool these particular Retreats that I started doing it's not straight silent there are you k..."

"matter what you start off with it could be you know Christianity Buddhism Vidant doesn't matter like anything then I just like I like it when everything is and everyone is taken into account it doesn'..."

"There's No One path I mean in this particular Retreat I do there's like a lot of Silent sits and then there's some guided meditations um but this I I've tried a lot of different Avenues and they're al..."

"kind of when something resonates there that's usually when you go with something what was living in a monastery like it's the best what is what are we talking about like what it's just an empty room w..."

"different cuz he does talks we talk about things um and that's very separate from the monaster like the Vidant monasteries I've stayed at which there's very little meditation in in terms of sitting si..."

"own experience and that tells the right story for the point you're trying to make in the song so it's it varies from song to song like in terms of how like what a biographical it is yeah I was at the ..."

"do you've been writing this kind of yeah I've been writing a little bit I don't have like an intention of like putting something out in in in any particular time frame but I'm just riding and letting ..."

"throughout but he said it was actually a man missing his wife he's imagining uh that she's lost because of the decisions he's made in his life so it's pain he had a long beautiful Eric quinin like exp..."

"story of that yeah I just grew up in a environment that was uh focused on Academia yeah and I fell in love with guitar and really just wanted the Focus to be that um so my limit was 30 minutes a day f..."

"learned how to do that and in terms of like learning fast cuz like I had to like learn how to well I had to try to absorb a lot of information in a short amount of time when I did have the instrument ..."

"that yeah that's what at least what it felt like to me and the most hilarious thing happened a couple months ago I know you're friends with Andrew huberman so he put out some clip which was a part of ..."

"musicians they're like practicing for six seven eight hours a day I've never done that I've never practiced more than an hour a day even now like I've just just that's my technique and it works are yo..."

"to me yeah and the right word can can have so much power it's crazy like we said Leonard Cohen and then they're often simple the really powerful ones are simple and like you when you mentioned Hallelu..."

"yourself or you ref for many years it's song dependent some just flow out and it's like oh there it is everything's there and then other songs it's like you might have started it with music and there'..."

"come back and you say okay well what what what do I have to do to this now like what's needed just to uh Linger on the learning process um what would you recommend for young musicians and how to get g..."

"going to get to you Jagged it's Jag yeah it's Jagged it's it's all over the place it's uncertain it's one thing one moment and a completely different thing another moment you never know what's going t..."

"on the road or not but other than that it's just people there listening to music the music doesn't change does it make it tougher when it's two people versus 200 no so even if nobody recognizes whatev..."

"like physical manifestations of the same thing it's both you know like every instrument has its strength Beauty limitations range like possible range that can you know be extended to some degree or an..."

"required to really play an instrument for some people it's a long thing and some people it's short it very very much varies it might have to do with like how you learn um and getting to know like your..."

"really helpful and great or really not great like I'm primarily self-taught I've had amazing mentors of all walks of life and I think I'm unbelievably blessed that my mentors are some of my favorite m..."

"something transferred that is not intellectual it's not spoken there something else that happens that can happen and that I've experienced and um I really value that and I think that applies to specif..."

"also like what you said about the playing stuff in your head that it forces you to not be um lost in the in the physical learning of the instrument I think that's one of the things I probably regret a..."

"slowing down is really great too what do you mean slowing down slowing everything down it could be you know I can play something really fast but I may want to like practice it yeah [Music] like go slo..."

"with you mhm yeah that's brilliant it's kind of like the transcended and included thing that Ken wber talks about like it's like and I guess that's what meditation can do for you is to like really lis..."

"sport yeah since starting to learn more like Steve vongh versus Jimmy Hendrick I I would spend a quite a long time on single notes of just bending just like just listening to what you can do with bend..."

"difference between bass bass and bass okay well one is a fish at least I pronounced it correctly that's good uh it's all about the can you pronounce my my name tall wow most people say tow or tall you..."

"was he's sensitive about I was feeling the spiritual energy of the sensitivity of the Anthony Jackson and then I mean I'm playing electric bass so generally speaking you don't particularly want to hea..."

"what are the don'ts in any domain of Life what are the don'ts the don'ts is just to to please leave your fear at the door door mhm and your does is to be open to anything and open your ears like respo..."

"side of the same coin thing how many fingers you play with it seems like a lot of the greatest musicians aren't technically like perfect the the imperfections is the thing that makes them unique and w..."

"that kind of made me realize this is a thing okay and he also said that you're one of the best if not the best basist in the world there was a bunch of his fans that wrode in and he analyzed the Jeff ..."

"because they can just because they have the chops to do it or they know how to play in 1116 and whatever but it's like but if it's not actually creating a piece of music that's going to move somebody ..."

"hitting the right cord but all the magic is in that take and then sometimes it happens where it's like you go it's like we're rehearsing and take one 2 3 four and then you're like thinking about it to..."

"um he basically just would be like okay so the a section is going to go like this and then the B section I think we're going to go to uh G and du and then the bridge I might go to be flat but maybe I'..."

"for the music when you say punch the tape is that that when you actually record it like if you record to tape and there's like say like you hit a bum note like to to punch in means to like fix that no..."

"us mortal and silly at times another big sigh uh is it fair to say that you're very melodic on bass like you there's um you make the bass sink more than people normally do is that a compliment yes I t..."

"what's interesting to you about what really stands out to you about Hendrick I just would love to hear like a real professional musician's opinion of Hendrick I love that he is two voices combined int..."

"harsh or supportive supportive supportive you seen Whiplash the movie so that guy somebody screaming at you like kicking you off the cliff not necessary I feel like anybody that's truly passionate abo..."

"whatever exactly cuz if you do have that harsh critic inside you it's like it is nice to have somebody that isn't like your family or someone that's not obligated any way that just sees your talent an..."

"whole thing that one note you screwed up so many years ago that might have been essential what about because you do jiujitsu yes so like do you are you I don't my dad does my dad's super into it I lov..."

"that Whiplash video is like he didn't ask for that you know in a way he might have well maybe maybe subconsciously I mean there is it's a movie so next you're going to tell me they're just actors I me..."

"Zen can I ask you about Bruce Springsteen yeah sure a lot of songs of his I listen to make me feel this Melancholy feeling it's not just Bruce Springsteen but Bruce does a lot what is that about all s..."

"different new experience or something Have you ever cried listening to a song of course weep like a baby in a bathtub which um who's a regular go-to then Leonard Leonard yeah Hallelujah is is a song t..."

"bigger what does that mean for you today are you still missing Jeff I'll always miss Jeff but I don't feel like a piece of me is missing um and same with Leonard it's that I did give them a piece of m..."

"permanent so everything else you learn to appreciate that impermanence because the limited amount of of time it like in this particular body is it's enticing kind of gives you like a time limit which ..."

"whatever I've already done so if my time's up then my time's up what role does Love play in this whole thing in The Human Condition well love is everything I mean if you define love if you're talking ..."

"two one yeah you got it one two one two I call out to the ocean my tears fall into the sea for the vows that have been broken across the dunes of time repeatedly like a night in battered armor I Lay M..."