"evolutionarily we you know if we see a lion running at us we didn't have time to sort of calculate the lion's kinetic energy and you know is it optimal to go this way or that way you just reacted and ..."

"marie formerly one of the best poker players in the world trained as an astrophysicist and is now a philanthropist and an educator on topics of game theory physics complexity and life this is the lex ..."

"the longer you play the less influence luck has you know like with all things the bigger your sample size um the more the quality of your decisions or your strategies matter um so to answer that quest..."

"poker is a game of math um there are these strategies familiar with like nash equilibria that's yes right so there are these game theory optimal strategies that you can adopt um and the closer you pla..."

"minimization um but because i've been playing much longer than you i'll be better at that so first of all you're not taking advantage of my mistakes but then on top of that i'll be better at recognizi..."

"optimal strategy to exploit your bad plays can you define game theory and nash equilibria can we try to sneak up to it in a bunch of ways like oh what's the game theory framework of analyzing poker an..."

"essentially just like study of strategies under different competitive situations um and as it happens certain games in fact many many games um have these things called nash equilibria and what that me..."

"ourselves at a disadvantage um rock paper scissors is actually a really great example of this like if we to were to start playing rock paper scissors you know you know nothing about me and we're going..."

"randomize back too but actually it wouldn't matter because you're i know that you're playing randomly um so that would be us in a nash equilibrium um where we're both playing this like unexploitable s..."

"rock too often so that's basically an example of where you know what what game three optimal strategy is in terms of loss minimization but it's not always uh the maximally profitable thing if your opp..."

"think through what is the core idea here and when you do the lectures live especially you have to there's no second takes that is a luxury you get if you're recording a video for youtube or something ..."

"the most honest way of doing it like as few takes as possible that's why i'm nervous about this don't go back ah let's do that don't this up liv uh the tyranny of exams i do think you know people talk..."

"at the time it seems like a chore like why the hell does there's so much homework but you never get a chance to do this kind of learning this kind of homework ever again in life unless later in life y..."

"format online um yeah but they're not they are using that but you know college is still very there's a curriculum i mean so much of school is about rigorous study of a subject and still on youtube tha..."

"anymore it's like what's different we've got one paragraph different so we mentioned offline daniel negrano um i'm going to get a chance to talk to him on this podcast and he's somebody that i was i f..."

"or no yes and no so gut feelings are definitely very important um you know that we've got our two mo you can distill it down to two modes of decision making right you've got your sort of logical linea..."

"data that you could run analysis on and so that's when people started to see you know these mathematical solutions and um and so what that meant is the the role of intuition essentially became smaller..."

"intuition yes so when yeah when you're playing this unexploitable style but when your opponents start doing uh something you know sub-optimal that you want to exploit well now that's where not only yo..."

"what daniel has i mean i i can't speak for how much he's studying with with with the simulators and that kind of thing i think he has like he must be to still be keeping up um but he has an incredible..."

"the exception to all of this um and he's one of my favorite people to talk about in terms of i think he might have cracked the simulation uh is phil hellmuth uh he in more ways than one he's a practic..."

"but there's something that he has that when he's in the halls of the world series of poker specifically um amongst sort of amateurish players he gets them to do crazy like that and and but my little p..."

"happens 99 of the time and it's a one percent not the other way around but genuinely for his lived experience at the well only at the monster as a poker it is like that so i don't blame him for feelin..."

"the greatest yeah i don't know if he's the greatest he's certainly the greatest at the world series of poker and he is the greatest at despite the game switching into a pure game almost an entire game..."

"understand yet do you think phil hellmuth understands them is he just generally hashtag positivity he wrote a book on positivity and he has yes he did positivity trolling books no a wrote a book about..."

"that it's the same above because you're representing what are you representing that you already have something so i think in this scenario i had a flush draw two two so i had two clubs two two clubs c..."

"a mixture of like okay what are the cards so in theory i'm thinking about like okay what are cards that look make my hand look stronger which you know which cards hit my perceived range from his persp..."

"this is not something that you ever you know evolved to do and yet you're in that same flight or fight response and so that's a really important skill to be able to develop to basically learn how to l..."

"invaded in operation barbarossa where they this storm of nazi troops invaded large parts of the soviet union and hence one of the biggest wars in human history uh began stalin for sure was thought tha..."

"war of hundreds of thousands dead it'll be a war of tens of millions dead and um yeah but that like you know that's a very large scale kind of lie but i'm sure there's in politics and geopolitics that..."

"you know that's that's why i think actually like poker what what's so interesting about poker is most of the best players i know they're always exceptions you know they're always bad eggs but actually..."

"like live out our like this competitive urge that you know most people have what's it feel like to lose like we talked about bluffing when it worked out what about when you when you go broke so like i..."

"on the flip side you have a huge win and you're so dead inside that you don't even feel it well that's you know that's a shame i want my emotions to calibrate with reality as much as possible um so ye..."

"uh uh there's like a hard one and there's a very crazy yeah that's crazy i can't i don't even enjoy the hard one the crazy i really don't enjoy because it's intense you have to constantly try to win a..."

"turn this down you know dial this down a bit was poker the thing that has if you think back at your life and think about some of the lower points of your life like the darker places you've gone in you..."

"of your life right now this is it experience absolute pinnacle here in your in your robot land yeah yeah with your creepy light no it is i mean i i wouldn't change a thing about my life right now and ..."

"because obviously game usually implies zero sum like what what's the game which is like omni win look what you win how many went when why is so so important because if everyone plays zero sum games th..."

"us it's just a matter of when what do you think about that uh mutually sure destruction that very simple almost to the point of caricaturing game theory idea that does seem to be at the core of why we..."

"through the 21st century i mean it's it has it has held yes there's there's definitely truth to it that it was a you know it's a nash equilibrium yeah are you surprised it held this long um isn't craz..."

"yourself in the set of observers that make it down that path yeah so it's it's it's that doesn't mean it doesn't it just doesn't mean you're you're still not going to be at some point in your life no ..."

"you know self-terminating environment um but my point is is that with the nuclear weapons thing um there have been at least i think it's 12 or 11 um near-misses were of like just stupid things like uh..."

"stupid game that we're playing um and it is an absolute moral imperative if you ask me to get as many people thinking about ways to make this like very precarious because we're in a nash equilibrium b..."

"probably still continue and another intelligent civilization might still pop up maybe several yeah depend pick your x-risk depends on the x-risk nuclear war sure that's one of the perhaps less bad one..."

"there's a cree it's like phil hellmuth type of situation right like um there's a creepy level of like this is kind of fun and interesting like there's a lot of interesting stuff going on i mean that c..."

"know can measure with convent you know through our current physics and uh uh instruments i think so yes um partly because i've had just small little bits of evidence in my own ex in my own life which ..."

"is too is too rigid as well and doesn't you know there's a way to try and navigate these questions which still honors the scientific method which i still think is our best sort of realm of like reason..."

"euros which was much bigger than my bankroll would normally allow and so i uh played a feeder tournament won my way in kind of like i did with the monte carlo big one um uh so then i won my you know f..."

"less wrong where it's like you want your map you know the the image you have of the world in your head to as accurately match up with how the world actually is yeah you want the map and the territory ..."

"there are these useful fictions and that's where i think i diverge slightly with the classic um the classic sort of rationalist community um because that's a field that is worth studying um of like ho..."

"for people to to find a because it creates commonality between it's something we can all share and like it like it is uniquely humbling of all of us to an extent it's like a like a common objective um..."

"what it is that's no but but then so you're saying it's like different levels and it's like a cage within a cage within a cage and never locate one cage at a time you figure out how to describe that u..."

"um of uh well this thing called molok which we haven't talked about yet but um which is basically i call it the god of unhealthy competition yeah let's go let's go to mark what's malloc you you did uh..."

"then alan ginsberg wrote a poem in the 60s um which incredible poem called howl about this thing molok um and a lot of people sort of quite understandably take the the interpretation of that he's that..."

"probably be following it yes our blog's still a thing i think they it's still a thing yeah he's migrated onto sub stack but yeah it's still a blog um anyway just like better enough things up but i hav..."

"you like the reason why i talked about them in this video is because i noticed it myself you know like i i was trying to grow my instagram for a while i've given up on it now but um yeah and i noticed..."

"term game but this this molec do you can you attribute it to any one centralized source or is it an emergent phenomena from a large collection of people exactly that it's it's an emergent phenomena it..."

"requires some deep thinking that's i hope there's meetings like that inside companies but there aren't that's the problem and and it's difficult because like when you're starting up a social media com..."

"um values that we think are we we need to optimize for the like makes people happy and healthy and like keeps society as robust and safe as possible then figure out what the social structure around th..."

"um is that possible i don't know but i think we should try uh i don't think we have an option but to try well the other option is to create new companies or to pressure companies uh that or anyone who..."

"i'm making this video right now are called the attention wars which is about like how molok like the media machine is this moloch machine uh well is this is this kind of like blind dumb thing that whe..."

"moloch type force right that takes any any topic and cuts through it so they it can split nicely into two groups one one that's well it's whatever yeah all everyone is trying to do within the system i..."

"and so this like the attention economy the the wheels that make it go around are is rage um i did a you know tweet the the the the problem with raising against the machine is that the machine has lear..."

"out of each other and through that process discussing ideas like almost really embodying different ideas just to yell at each other and through the yelling over the period of decades maybe centuries f..."

"basically spreading propaganda i want to create like a bot army for like that like fights that yeah exactly for love that fights though that i mean you know there's there i mean there's truth to fight..."

"more control the more you can decentralize the control of a thing uh to people you know but the the they don't need the ability to coordinate because that's the issue when you if something is too you ..."

"that's where i've been working on this series it's been driving me insane for the last year and a half uh i did the first one a year ago i can't believe it's nearly been a year uh the second one hopef..."

"viruses you know just threaten someone else etc or ai technically the race to adi is kind of potentially a monarchy situation um but yeah so if molok is this like generator function that's driving all..."

"in our understanding of what is beautiful so to me i think something is beautiful when it can't be reduced down to easy metrics like if you think of a tree what is it about a tree like a big ancient b..."

"and that's where the beauty lies i think and i think that extends to things like art as well like there's something there's something immeasurable about it there's something we can't break down to a n..."

"is trying to like encapsulate the the human experience and put it into digital form and and commodify it to an extent that you so you do that you compress people down into these like narrow things and..."

"culture wars because that's really what it is it's um i mean maybe i'm giving it you know twitter too much power you know power but just the more i looked into it and i had conversations with uh trist..."

"use technology you know to build to design an algorithm that is maximally addictive um that would be one way for example yeah but you still want people to yeah i just feel like that just slows down cr..."

"and also like uh not just like happiness and connection between humans but uh connection between humans and other ways that enables like productivity like cooperation solving difficult problems and al..."

"to do you know i don't recommend it to everybody um but i do think there's you know it's interesting sometimes to poke holes in the or you know probe at these things that we consider so sacred that we..."

"if it's a decision we've made many times but if it's like should i marry this person or should i buy this house over that house you only make those decisions a couple of times in your life maybe um we..."

"of the identity of the core of the ideals that unify us and they haven't had that there's constantly been factions there's been divisions there's been pressures from empires from the united states and..."

"interesting though because you said it's you know it's always been under conflict and leaders have come and gone yeah so you would expect them to actually be the opposite under that yeah because well ..."

"yeah a lot of those kinds of things come together to to to create something within people these things always of course though like the you know which how zoomed out of a view do you want to take beca..."

"doesn't matter so but they you know uh but it and i think that's actually a correct uh when i zoom out i mean 99 of what i think about is just individual human beings and human lives and just that war..."

"and that doesn't mean to say that you know there isn't justification for small local scenarios you know adversarial adversarial conflicts you know if you have a a leader who is starting wars you know ..."

"um and i think nothing demonstrates this more than this uh this project that i was just reading about that's sort of being proposed right now called um deep vision and the idea is to go out into the w..."

"only will it um if you publish this information even if a bad actor couldn't physically make it themselves which given you know in 10 years time like the technologies are getting cheaper and easier uh..."

"yeah i mean i would agree in principle um with pertaining to this like particular plan of like that you know with the thing i described this deep vision thing where at least then that would maybe make..."

"incredibly contained see i think i think it really matters which discipline we're talking about so in the case of biology i do think you're a very right we shouldn't even be it should be forbidden to ..."

"yeah i mean there's a lie listen i've been criticizing the science community broadly quite a bit there's so many brilliant people that brilliance is somehow hindering sometimes because it has a bunch ..."

"have nothing to do with the with the biology of the virus it seems like uh it's i mean i could just list them forever but like one of them is the complete distrust of public institutions uh the other ..."

"clear the reason why they did that was because there was actually a shortage of masks and they really needed it for health workers which makes sense like i agree like it you know but the cost of lying..."

"think that's what needs to happen yeah i know i totally agree with you unfortunately yeah his job was very tough and all those kinds of things but um i see arrogance and arrogance prevented him from b..."

"to be fair the the thing that's what's it called i heard the phrase today uh nut picking social media does that so you've got like nitpicking nut picking is where the the the craziest stupidest you kn..."

"would need to deeply investigate with a therapist okay what about ai are you worried about agi superintelligence systems or paperclip maximizer type of type of situation yes i'm definitely worried abo..."

"just objectively speaking i've talked and listened to a bunch of people and they are gravitating towards that it's almost i think it's the same thing that people love about conspiracy theories is they..."

"thing is um well what we don't yeah we don't want a self-fulfilling prophecy yes that's exactly yes and i very much agree with that and i you know even i have a slight like feeling from the amount of ..."

"faith is valuable because it gives you at least this like anchor of hope and and i and i'm not just saying it to like trick myself like i do truly i do think there's something out there that wants us ..."

"but we've got a lot of work to do which is which what makes this whole simulation this video game kind of fun this battle of polytopia i still man i love those games so much so good and that that one ..."

"notes energy healing question mark what's that about uh oh man um god your audience are gonna think i'm mad uh so the two crazy things that happened to me the one was the voice in the head that said y..."

"intense place and i was just having a really rough time and on the final night i get talking to this uh girl who's like a friend of a friend and i mentioned i was like oh i'm really down in the dumps ..."

"but you know she was like that you know so i was i was so rattled a because the potential that actually i had something bad in me that made someone feel bad and and and that she was scared that was wh..."

"assigning the word placebo to it reduces it down to a way that it doesn't deserve to be reduced down maybe there's a whole science of what we call placebo maybe there's a placebo is a door self-healin..."

"in the first place um i just know that something crazy happened and it was while i was in an open state and fortunately for me it made the problem go away but what i took away from it again it was par..."

"alien civilizations i actually don't know i would imagine she would take the viewpoint of you know she's pretty humble and she knows how many you know there's a huge number of potential spawn sites ou..."

"the idea of it yeah and then i i get to think about respawning like after it dies like what happens if life on earth ends is it is it going to restart again probably not it depends maybe earth is depe..."

"low on wisdom but very high on capability um then it will figure out how to jump the vacuum gap between planets and stars and so on and thus just turn every atom it gets its hands on into paper clips ..."

"interesting okay well so how does that line up then with the the whole heat death of the universe right because that's that's another sort of instantiation of this it's like everything becomes so far ..."

"you can think of like the universe as a paper clip maximizer because it's doing some dumb stuff like physics seems to be pretty dumb it has like i don't know if you can summarize it yeah yeah the the ..."

"where humans emerge and i i think we're being very down on this whole paperclip maximizer thing now the reason we hate it i think yeah because what you're saying is that you think that the force of em..."

"the long and short of it comes out that the we're roughly around 70 to be the only uh intelligent civilization in our galaxy thus far and around 50 50 in the entire observable universe which sounds so..."

"and enhanced throughout since the equation came out the error box have been coming out on different atoms yeah that's right aspects and so that it almost kind of says uh what like this gives you a mis..."

"is life maybe computation based what the is this thing right and that like how difficult is it to create this thing right it's one way to say like how many plants like this are out there all that kind..."

"the input is some energy right it's able to extract yeah extract resources uh from its environment in order to achieve a goal but the goal doesn't seem to be clear right the goal is well the goal is t..."

"welfare of the individual agents within it but it does seem to i don't know i i think it's i think the mistake is that we're anthropomorphizing and to even try to you know give evolution a mindset um ..."

"things and i think people especially people on robotics seem to run away from it as fast as possible and uh i i just can you give an example of like how it helps in robotics oh in uh that our world is..."

"this is obvious in a physical manifestation of a robot they feel a certain way they have a fear they have uncertainty they um they they have their own personal life projections we have pets and dogs a..."

"decisions and so uh right you're dealing i mean with things like ai ais they are you know we can somewhat like i don't think it's the reason i i say anthropomorphization we need to be careful with is ..."

"let's say you know or whatever however it runs and whatever whether i don't know whether they have an internal experience i don't think they necessarily do in fact i don't think they do but the point ..."

"think about the win-wins look for win-win situations and be careful not to you know overly use your smarts to convince yourself that something is win-win when it's not so that's difficult and i don't ..."

"what's the meaning of life wow it's in your name as we talked about you have to have to live up do you feel the requirement to have to live up to your name because live yeah no because i don't see it ..."

"olivia what does that even mean um live up to live uh no i i can't say i i do because i've never thought of it that way okay and then your name backwards is evil that's what i also talked about um the..."

"um and more complex you know to i guess try and put it into a sort of vaguely scientific term um make it so that the program required the length of code required to describe the universe is as long as..."

"like the the fact that they end there's this uh whatever it is falling in love or um creating a piece of art or creating a bridge or creating a rocket or creating a i don't know just the the businesse..."

"should also do a podcast with c as you talked about the two of you have such uh different minds that like melt together in just hilarious ways fascinating ways just uh the tension of ideas there is re..."