"In October, over 850 experts, including yourself and other leaders like Richard Branson and Jeffrey Hinton, signed a statement to ban AI super intelligence as you guys raised concerns of potential hum..."

"Professor Stuart Russell, OBBE. A lot of people have been talking about AI for the last couple of years. It appears you've this really shocked me. It appears you've been talking about AI for most of y..."

">> Is this the textbook that most students who study AI are likely learning from? >> Yeah. >> So you wrote the textbook on artificial intelligence 31 years ago. You actually start probably started wri..."

"world of AI, both people that are, you know, have built the technology, have studied and researched the technology or the CEOs and founders that are currently in the AI race. What are some of the the ..."

"the CEOs are well aware of the extinction level risks? I mean, they all signed a statement in May of 23 uh called it's called the extinction statement. It basically says AGI is an extinction risk at t..."

"got a you received an OB from Queen Elizabeth. >> Uh yes. >> And what was the listed reason for that for the award? uh contributions to artificial intelligence research >> and you've been listed as a ..."

">> Do you believe that at some point in the coming decades we'll arrive at a point of AGI where these systems are generally intelligent? Uh yes, I think it's virtually certain unless something else in..."

"about safety. It doesn't it doesn't even appear that there's room for that in such a race. I think that's right. To varying extents, each of these companies has a division that focuses on safety. Does..."

">> And we saw some quite high-profile departures from company like companies like OpenAI. Um, I know a chap called Yan Leak left who was working on AI safety at OpenAI and he said that the reason for ..."

"What is the gorilla problem as a way to understand AI in the context of humans? >> So, so the gorilla problem is is the problem that gorillas face with respect to humans. So you can imagine that you k..."

">> Is that is there any fault in the reasoning there? Because it seems to make such perfect sense to me. But if it Why doesn't Why don't people stop then? cuz it it seems like a crazy thing to want to..."

">> Pull the plug out. People say that sometimes in the comment section when we talk about AI, they said, "Well, I'll just pull a plug out." >> Yeah, it's it's sort of funny. In fact, you know, yeah, r..."

"than us that will also always act in our best interests? It sounds like a bit of a uh contradiction to some degree because it's kind of like me saying I've got a French bulldog called Pablo that's uh ..."

"with with AI and how it's progressing? Because you strike me as someone that's somewhat troubled under the surface by the way things are moving forward and the speed in which they're moving forward. >..."

"you've been so influential on the subject of AI? You wrote the textbook that many of these people would have studied on the subject of AI more than 30 years ago. Do do you have when you're alone at ni..."

"systems we're building now, we don't understand how they work. >> We don't understand how they work. It's it's a strange thing to build something where you don't understand how it works. I mean, there..."

"want. I've heard Sam Alman say that in the future he doesn't believe they'll need much training data at all to make these models progress themselves because there comes a point where the models are so..."

"more possible than I thought a couple of years ago." Which I guess is that moment where the AGI starts teaching itself. >> In and in his blog, the gentle singularity, he said, "We may already be past ..."

">> It's interesting when you think that this could be the the end of the human story. this idea that the end of the human story was that we created our successor like we we summoned our next iteration..."

"the things that highlights for me is that there's always trade-offs in life generally. And you know, especially when there's great upside, there always appears to be a pretty grave downside. Like ther..."

"it's interesting. So, we're going off on a little bit of a digression here >> for from your question, but I'll come back to it. >> So, people often ask, well, okay, so how exactly do we go extinct? An..."

"question of well, if everything goes right, right, if we we create AGI, we figure out how to make it safe, we we achieve all these economic miracles, then you face a problem. And this is not a new pro..."

"camera, off microphone about this, they say to me that they're investing really heavily in entertainment things like football clubs. Um because people are going to have so much free time that they're ..."

">> Do you think much about humanoid robots and how they're a protagonist in this story of AI? >> It's an interesting question, right? Why why humanoid? And the one of the reasons I think is because in..."

"about what they should be aiming at professionally? Because I've actually had an increasing number of young people say to me that they have huge uncertainty about whether the thing they're studying no..."

"educations. >> What is it to be human? to it's to reproduce to pursue stuff to go in the pursuit of difficult things you know we used to hunt on the >> to attain goals right it's always if I wanted to..."

">> There's this interesting paradox that exists when life becomes easier. Um which shows that abundance consistently pushes society societies towards more individualism because once survival pressures..."

">> There is an invisible tax on salespeople that no one really talks about enough. The mental load of remembering everything like meeting notes, timelines, and everything in between until we started u..."

"where does it acrue to? I think a lot about this in terms of like univers universal basic income. If you have these five, six, seven, 10 massive AI companies that are going to win the 15 quadrillion d..."

"button in front of you and pressing that button would stop all progress in artificial intelligence right now and forever, would you press it? >> That's a very interesting question. Um, if it's either ..."

"doesn't know the guy making all the chips that are powering AI said China is going to win the AI race arguing it is just a nanocond behind the United States. China have produced 24,000 AI papers compa..."

"AI? So Trump's approach is, you know, it's it's echoing what Jensen Wang is saying that the US has to be the one to create AGI and very explicitly the administration's policy is to uh dominate the wor..."

"US build AGI technology before say the UK where I'm originally from and where you're originally from? What does the This is something I think about a lot because we're going through this budget proces..."

"that seems to be that seems to you know it's going to take a lot of jobs. cars are going to drive themselves. Whimo just announced that they're coming to London, which is the driverless cars, and driv..."

">> So Amazon for example which you know sells a lot of computing services to AI companies is using AI to replace layers of management is planning to use robots to replace all of its warehouse workers ..."

"that I'd set our internal flightex team flight team is our innovation team internally here I tasked them with seeing how much time they could unlock for the company by creating something that would he..."

"You've made many attempts to raise awareness and to call for a heightened consciousness about the future of AI. Um, in October, over 850 experts, including yourself and other leaders, like Richard Bra..."

"Earth right now, I would find this fascinating that these >> Yeah. You're in the bar betting on who's, you know, are they going to make it or not. >> Just a really interesting experiment in like human..."

">> What is the most important thing we haven't talked about that we should have talked about, Professor Stuart Russell? So I think um the question of whether it's possible to make uh super intelligent..."

"a god. Like earlier on I was saying that we are the god but actually everything you described there almost sounds like every every god in religion where you know we pray to gods but they don't always ..."

">> This is kind of what I was thinking. Maybe there was uh a civilization before us and they arrived at this moment in time where they created an intelligence and that intelligence did all the things ..."

"average person listening to this now to aid the cause that you're fighting for. >> I actually think um you know this sounds corny but you know talk to your representative, your MP, your congressperson..."

">> After committing your career to this subject and the subject of technology more broadly, but specifically being the guy that wrote the book about artificial intelligence, you must realize that you'..."

"podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next, not knowing who they're leaving it for. And the question left for you is, what do you value the most in life and why? And lastly, how many ..."