"The B administration just like really screwed up our immigration policy in a profoundly dangerous way. But >> even if you agree that immigration is a problem, it seems division is the most compelling ..."

"Mr. Vice President, I have your book here. Okay. And it says, "Of all the things that I hated about my childhood, nothing compared to the revolving door of father figures. I hated the disruption. And ..."

">> So your biological father >> Yeah. >> He he put you up for adoption. >> So he did. So I was adopted by a man when I was five or 6 years old by the name of Robert Hamill and he became and it's still..."

">> There was also a guy called Matt thereafter at 13 years old that your mom had met. >> Yeah. Yeah. Good guy. Very close to him. He actually is very political and so he and I um reconnected a little ..."

"as an adult, you know, like you can almost imagine now that you've got so many kids yourself that I I can understand the feeling of craziness being normal and you kind of don't realize until you see i..."

">> And over the next sort of couple of decades, your mother your mother's addiction um seems to get worse and worse. >> It does. It does. >> From prescription drugs to heroin and everything in between..."

"did. >> That point about understanding the person on the other end and having empathy for the human being. >> Politics. >> Yeah. appears to be almost exact because I watch the I watch the election cam..."

">> But politics seems to be like the the sort of game of politics to me seems to be like paint the other side to be malicious. >> Well, I I think the game of politics I mean fundamentally you're makin..."

">> on on the immigration policy. I mean, still got to go through your chart here, but on this point of immigration, this is another area where you get such division. >> Sure. >> And you get, you know,..."

"would be hard to find an American who didn't think we needed um again I'm not an American so I I guess I'm talking about wherever I'm from but we needed borders and a policy around borders. >> Sure. >..."

"neighborhood. >> That's right. I did I did. >> Yeah. So my my black we my family is obviously black. My mom's Nigerian and I came from Botswan and I moved into an all white neighborhood. >> Okay. And ..."

">> No, I I understand the the sort of human instinct of of uh I guess of kind of like xenophobia in a way. Um and I think we all we all would want our neighbor to be able to connect with our neighbor...."

"if my family were struggling or at all in danger at risk and there was a an area of land over there that offered them a better chance. I personally think for the sake of my family if my family was str..."

">> This young man here, you ultimately go into the Marine Corps. >> I go into the Marine Corps. Yeah. So, this is this is me in I believe right after boot camp. So, 2003, maybe May. Yeah, I think 2003..."

"annoyed at Bush >> because that patriotic reservoir that exists in any country I think it's maybe most powerful in the United States of America because again we have this 70 70 plus percent of young p..."

"take tips from anyone on how to stay focused and high energy, let it be from the greatest pound-for-pound fighter of all time, the guy they call Johnny Bones Jones. John is a coowner of our show spons..."

">> The the US is I guess in a war now. >> Well, not anymore. >> Famous last words. >> Fair. >> We are in a ceasefire that I feel very good about. >> Okay. that we announced. I know this will air later..."

"pretty good about it. The other term I'd never heard before is straight of Hormuz. >> Yes. >> I've heard so much about the bloody straight of Hormuz. Um, did you have any idea that the Iranians would ..."

"completion >> because if you're them, you go, "Well, all I've got to do is wait two years because the president is going to be, you know, removed from from office in two years time. is going to be at ..."

"regime sees the world. >> The um the deal that you have on the table. >> Yes. >> Now, okay, excuse me if I'm skeptical, but I said to you before we start started recording, I watch everything. >> Yes...."

">> So what is in the term sheet? Well, a few things. So, the the first is that the Straits of Hormuz opens effectively immediately and the blockade is lifted effectively immediately. Now, when I say e..."

"the side. >> You dropped those big uh bunker buster bombs. >> Correct. um was very fascinated by all the all that whole series of of military operations and um it the nuclear material is now buried pr..."

">> And you do you get to check that they're not just going to a different mountain and building new nuclear weapons? >> That's where the verification element comes in. But we have a very good sense, y..."

"Um, there was some uh some interesting words exchanged yesterday. Again, I watch everything. So, I saw that the the Fox reporter had called Trump, I think yesterday, because Netanyahu had started firi..."

">> Do you trust them? >> You know, I don't trust anybody. Um, when it comes to international affairs and diplomacy, do I think that they're they're very capable? Absolutely. Do I think that again, whe..."

"conflict. >> The world's opinion and thoughts about the USIsrael relationship, >> yeah, >> has never been more widely discussed. >> I agree. And I I almost I almost don't know why, but it's it seems t..."

"can. >> What does and please do tell me like what does Netanyahu want because I sit here with these experts and they say they want to overtake the whole of the Middle East. They want to run the Middle..."

">> You run for Senate. >> Yeah. >> Um and you're successful. And this is really from what I could see from my research where you and Trump first >> uh made friends, I should say. Uh, before then you w..."

">> What have you observed behind the scenes that that JD didn't see? So in operation when you see him making decisions. >> Yeah. So I I mean I I want to caveat this with with saying that you know I di..."

"2022, he's endorsed you and you, uh, you win your race in the US Senate. >> Correct. >> And then sometime after then, um, at some point, you're going to get introduced to him and he's going to ask you..."

"history. Man, >> for the last couple years I've been working on something that I realized every podcaster listening to this, but actually probably every creator listening to this might just need. Podc..."

">> Did you know at that time what you were signing up for? >> No, I had no idea. No idea. >> So why did you want to do it? And you know people say I represent my country, but why why? It's it's a lot...."

">> Sometimes I feel like I ruined his life without even asking him. You wrote that in your new book, page 198. >> Yes. >> In reference to your seven-year-old son. Sometimes I feel like I've ruined his..."

">> What surprised her most about you becoming the vice president? What what what didn't she expect? >> She doesn't get surprised by much. So that's actually a very very hard question. I do think the S..."

">> Can you make that decision still yourself? Can you could you say to all these Secret Service people? There's none. Okay. I can't see any secret service at the moment, but I know they're behind that..."

"book called Communion. >> Yeah. which is about it's I mean the subtitle is finding my way back to faith. >> Back to faith. >> Yeah, that's right. >> So for your 30s you you you became atheist in your ..."

">> When did you realize that it mattered? >> Well, well, so so okay. So, so I become an atheist. I'm I'm sort of one of these like angry atheists, you know, where I'll like argue with people who say t..."

">> I'm going to take a little bit of a hard end which is uh AI. AI is going to cause a lot of job disruption and um >> it's a big topic of conversation for my audience, but also as an entrepreneur and..."

">> Are you scared about the potential economic impact and unemployment impact of artificial intelligence at this moment in time? >> So, I'd say I'm less scared about that than I am about other things...."

"that. So the president is supportive of of the United States owning these big AI companies. >> He likes the idea as sort of a sovereign wealth fund idea of the United States taking some stake in these..."

"table. Mama. Mama. >> Mammo. >> Mama. >> Mammo. >> She passed away when you were 21 years old. Rushed hospital with a collapsed lung 2 days after her 72nd birthday. Y >> and she was taken off life sup..."

">> We have a closing tradition on this podcast. Okay. >> Where the last guest leaves a question for the next next guest not knowing who they're leaving it for. >> Okay. The question that's left for yo..."