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The late investing legend Charlie Munger sits down with CNBC's Becky Quick for his final television interview, discussing how he ended up at Berkshire Hathaway, his enduring relationship with Warren Buffett, and his timeless investing strategies. » Subscribe to CNBC: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBC » Subscribe to CNBC TV: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBCtelevision About CNBC: From 'Wall Street' to 'Main Street' to award winning original documentaries and Reality TV series, CNBC has you covered. Experience special sneak peeks of your favorite shows, exclusive video and more. Connect with CNBC News Online Get the latest news: https://www.cnbc.com/ Follow CNBC on LinkedIn: https://cnb.cx/LinkedInCNBC Follow CNBC News on Facebook: https://cnb.cx/LikeCNBC Follow CNBC News on Twitter: https://cnb.cx/FollowCNBC Follow CNBC News on Instagram: https://cnb.cx/InstagramCNBC Subscribe to CNBC PRO: https://cnb.cx/2NLi9AN #CNBC Watch Legendary Investor Charlie Munger's Final Interview With CNBC
In this segment, we explore the multifaceted legacy of Charlie Munger, Vice Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway and confidant of Warren Buffett. Munger's journey from aspiring lawyer to investing guru is highlighted, showcasing his diverse academic background and his critical views on corporate excess. His life story serves as an inspiration for investors and thinkers alike.
"Charlie Munger may be best known as Burkshire Hathaway's Vice chairman Warren Buffett's best friend Confidant and business partner for six and a half decades but Munger was also a giant in his own rig..."
Charlie Munger discusses the importance of acquiring knowledge across various fields. He reflects on his early realization of the value of integrating different disciplines, which he attributes to his natural curiosity and a desire to understand the world better. This segment emphasizes Munger's belief in the power of a multidisciplinary approach to investing and life.
"we appreciate it well I hope it'll be interesting certainly A peculiar example of one life it's interesting that a man who started out to be a lawyer ended up with an identity that's more like a gurus..."
Munger shares anecdotes from his school days, illustrating his critical thinking and willingness to challenge authority. He recounts how he often revised textbooks in his mind and questioned the teachings of his professors, including a memorable encounter with his Latin teacher. This segment highlights Munger's early development of independent thought and skepticism.
"I recognized that quite early and I just played the hand I was de in order to get as much Advantage as I could when did you recognize that were you a child very young I used when I was taking courses ..."
In this segment, Munger reflects on his time at Harvard Law School and the profound impact of his contracts professor, Lon Fuller. He discusses how Fuller integrated law and economics, shaping Munger's understanding of contracts and their role in modern civilization. This segment underscores the importance of great teachers in shaping one's intellectual journey.
"my Latin teacher just a poor fellow he hadn't quite learned to understand it right yet now I didn't always succeed I had some very unusual teachers the best teacher I had in my life was Lon Fuller but..."
Munger draws parallels between his life and that of Benjamin Franklin, emphasizing Franklin's self-education and diverse talents. He admires Franklin's ability to excel in multiple disciplines and reflects on how Franklin's story inspired him to pursue a similar path of lifelong learning and curiosity.
"did to some extent and the reason he did is you want to know why do we have these kind contracts that so obviously make modern civilization work and he never he didn't explain exactly why but I could ..."
Munger discusses his early academic choices, including his decision to study mathematics at the University of Michigan. He explains how his aptitude for math allowed him to excel without much effort, and how his academic journey was interrupted by World War II, leading him to explore physics. This segment highlights Munger's strategic thinking in education.
"there for ordinary and he he put it all in a book I didn't need on full that's the way I handled almost all my teachers I didn't need them and let's talk about Benjamin Franklin yeah he's one of the f..."
Reflecting on his experiences during World War II, Munger shares insights about the importance of practical knowledge and adaptability. He recounts how his military service shaped his perspective on life and education, emphasizing the value of resilience and the lessons learned from challenging circumstances.
"of of financial life and regular life mhm and I and well I couldn't copy I didn't have any musical ability and so Franklin was he he played four different musical instruments one of which he invented ..."
Munger reflects on the significant historical changes he has witnessed throughout his life, emphasizing the rapid advancements in technology and society over the past century. He discusses the impact of the Industrial Revolution and the evolution of civilization, providing a unique perspective on progress and innovation.
"California look at it yeah this is pretty nice yes and and of course I noticed that it was like that and it wasn't like that in Noah at the time I was at calag and it was in the middle of the water an..."
In this segment, Munger discusses the historical context of the British Empire and its influence on modern civilization. He reflects on the dynamics of power and governance, drawing lessons from the past that remain relevant today. This segment provides a thought-provoking analysis of history's impact on contemporary society.
"to occur the United States the Heyday of the British Empire which was probably the most important Empire that ever existed on Earth ended about the time I was born the Heyday you look you a stamp coll..."
Munger shares the cautionary tale of Eastman Kodak, illustrating how even the most innovative companies can fail. He emphasizes the importance of adaptability and foresight in business, drawing lessons from Kodak's decline to inform his investment philosophy. This segment serves as a reminder of the risks inherent in the corporate world.
"what he grew up in so it's but the last two centuries created almost all the growth before that everybody's not everybody but like something 80% of all people are farmers and what's happened over the ..."
Munger discusses the debate between diversification and concentration in investing. He reflects on the lessons learned from observing failures in major companies, advocating for a balanced approach to investment strategy. This segment highlights Munger's pragmatic view on risk management and investment philosophy.
"common shs even a a great company run by a genius I mean that's that's an argument for being Diversified but no no no I that it's yes it is an argument for being Diversified but that's not really what..."
Munger shares his childhood experiences during the Great Depression, detailing how it affected his family and community. He recounts the struggles of his uncles, including an architect who adapted to the economic crisis and became Chief Architect for the FHA, emphasizing the importance of resilience and innovation in tough times.
"hoces not Do no harm well he he gets credit for that one but what he really but he really emphasize with don't tell anybody else how to do this the people who have the modern system of this are The Ma..."
In this segment, Munger discusses the impact of family hardships during his formative years, including the death of a cousin and the financial struggles faced by his relatives. He reflects on how these experiences shaped his understanding of life, death, and the importance of financial stability.
"panther yeah and but that's the way they did it let me ask you about the Great Depression you were just a child then I I know your family struggled yeah but I was unusual child yeah and I was curious ..."
Munger highlights the significance of small, incremental improvements in construction, as demonstrated by his uncle's insistence on using plaster screens to prevent water damage. He illustrates how attention to detail can lead to long-lasting benefits, drawing parallels to his own investment philosophy.
"being what they would naturally be and a good architect being what he would naturally be right and so the FHA which was then fostering a great percentage of the total building that was going on in ter..."
Munger recounts the painful experiences of losing childhood friends and family members, emphasizing the high mortality rates among children in his era. He reflects on the emotional toll these losses took on him and the societal context of childhood mortality during the early 20th century.
"you saw your family getting clobbered in all sides on the depression that was one was an architect one one was a builder who who was broke he had loans he wasn't even paying off from the 20 boom bu bu..."
In this segment, Munger discusses his childhood strategy of playing marbles, emphasizing the importance of understanding odds and competition. He connects this early experience to his lifelong investment philosophy of assessing risks and making informed decisions.
"for you as you're watching this serious it's a little boy of his cousin who of the same age is dying next door and takes forever and cause a fortune and there's no money to pay the doctors the hospita..."
Munger reflects on the influence of education on his decision-making skills, particularly in economics and mathematics. He discusses how understanding these subjects has helped him navigate complex investment landscapes and make better choices throughout his life.
"you've made throughout life you don't play poker with someone you're going to lose with exactly right I didn't always arrange the circumstances I just fell under them frequently but but I got to play ..."
Munger analyzes the changing landscape of investment strategies over the decades, noting how competition has increased since the time of Ben Graham. He explains how the low-hanging fruit of undervalued businesses has diminished, making it harder for investors to find lucrative opportunities.
"subject and on the other hand there little submarkets where it's easy to figure out how to do well and a lot of people figure out how to worm their way into those and stay there a lot of what you do t..."
In this segment, Munger discusses the importance of identifying and investing in great companies rather than just undervalued ones. He reflects on his and Warren Buffett's journey in building Berkshire Hathaway and the lessons learned from their investment experiences.
"so much harder you can't believe it the people that found it harder are the people that made Warren so rich Ben Graham and and his colleague DOD in a damned adjunct course at Columbia and by the way g..."
Munger shares insights into the unexpected growth of Berkshire Hathaway, attributing their success to a combination of smart decision-making and longevity in the market. He emphasizes the importance of learning from past experiences and adapting to changing circumstances.
"things you could be a lousy business but they were cheap enough they're still right if they had enough assets for share so you're getting at least twice as money assets as you were paying for and he j..."
Munger discusses the current state of Berkshire Hathaway's cash reserves and the potential for significant acquisitions. He reflects on the challenges of finding suitable investments that can move the needle for the company, highlighting the need for strategic decision-making in a competitive market.
"it's it was an amazing occurrence what happened that you didn't anticipate what what led to that success well we got a little less great than most people a little less stupid than most people and that..."
Munger draws parallels between basketball coaching and investment strategies, referencing John Wooden's focus on a few key players to achieve success. He explains how concentrating resources on the best opportunities can lead to superior results, a principle that has guided Berkshire Hathaway's investment philosophy.
"it may have to be done by some different people you now that next time we may not be able just to squeeze a little more lemon juice out of the old lemons we we may be able to you may have to squeeze s..."
Charlie Munger critiques the current landscape of venture capital, arguing that many investors mistakenly believe they can replicate past successes without understanding the underlying complexities. He emphasizes that true investment success is rare and often involves a combination of talent, hard work, and luck.
"what bur did of course it worked better and everybody's learned it you've talked about everybody would know it automatically if it were just a little more obvious if all of us had to make a living bac..."
Munger shares insights on some of his favorite investments, including BYD and Costco. He recounts how he initially doubted BYD's potential but ultimately recognized the genius of its founder, illustrating the importance of being open to unconventional ideas and the role of luck in investment success.
"hard it's too damned hard meaning that it's they were there's too much failure difficulty accident in the world it it it it it it's really hard to have a stretch like the has had as an investment firm..."
In this segment, Munger discusses the remarkable success of Wan Fu, the founder of BYD, who defied expectations by entering the competitive auto industry. Munger reflects on how their initial skepticism turned into admiration for Wan Fu's vision and determination, highlighting the unpredictable nature of investment outcomes.
"like squ he went into be with it was so small that it would have been appropriate in early stage Soo investment and it was a public company but it was just so small it was barely a public company and ..."
Munger explains how Berkshire Hathaway transformed its initial $300 million into $3 billion, attributing this rapid growth to a combination of strategic investments and favorable market conditions. He emphasizes the role of luck and timing in achieving such extraordinary results.
"well he did that's what Geniuses do they don't listen and it's just amazing what he's done of course he's been lucky but but all the great records are partly work partly talent and partly look that's ..."
Reflecting on investment missteps, Munger shares his experience with Alibaba and the importance of learning from failures. He discusses how even the best investors can have off days and stresses the significance of resilience and adaptability in the face of setbacks.
"trade ever was buying Berkshire hathway itself the Mills yeah sure what was your worst trade well I think my worst trade was buying a block for the Bunger family in Alibaba which a pretty good company..."
Munger addresses the evolving landscape of the American Dream, acknowledging that while some opportunities have become more challenging, others have emerged, particularly in technology. He discusses the disparities in wealth and opportunity, emphasizing that success is still attainable for those in the right fields.
"not wanting to over leverage in a situation but also knowing that if you think something's a real deal to really load up on it because you're only going to have so many great pitches perfect pitches y..."
In this segment, Munger critiques bureaucratic inefficiencies in government and large organizations. He expresses skepticism about simplistic solutions to complex problems, advocating for thoughtful reform rather than arbitrary measures, while affirming his belief in the necessity of government for societal progress.
"they're prospering more um Charlie let's talk a little bit about bureaucracies because you have duy noted the problems with bureaucracies where whether it be a big company whether it be the government..."
In this segment, Munger recounts stories from his grandfather, a pioneer who overcame significant hardships to achieve success. He contrasts his grandfather's pride in his struggles with the reluctance of his grandmother to discuss difficult times. Munger emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and learning from past challenges as a means to foster resilience and growth.
"the legend of Robinson cruso created by Daniel Devo they just love that guy creting a little Engish civilization on I godam bacon Isle and and that he could do it if he worked at it and of course that..."
Munger reflects on the limited opportunities individuals encounter throughout their lives and the importance of seizing them wisely. He discusses the concept of leveraging opportunities when one is confident in their decisions, while also acknowledging the inherent risks involved. This segment highlights the delicate balance between caution and ambition in investment and life choices.
"I really absorbed the D Daniel cruzo lesson then I was lucky with my ancestors on the other side of the family I am very good at learning things from dead people that's what everybody should learn and..."
Munger addresses current global tensions and their implications for civilization. He expresses concern over potential conflicts and the fragility of progress. Munger advocates for a pragmatic approach to economic challenges, emphasizing the need for financial responsibility and caution in the face of uncertainty. His insights reflect a deep understanding of the interconnectedness of global events and economic stability.
"fight counter and when you get your invitation for God's sakes don't think it's all helping he he basically said lever up when you when you're sure you're right and of course that's good advice but be..."
In this segment, Munger critiques modern monetary theory and its implications for economic stability. He warns against the dangers of excessive debt and the potential consequences of neglecting fiscal responsibility. Munger's perspective highlights the importance of maintaining a balanced approach to economic policy, particularly in times of crisis.
"were very cautious in dealing with our sholders money if weren't I had own burshire without any shers that we knew we would have made more more we would use more leverage I've had people say recently ..."
Munger discusses the fundamental principles of capitalism and its role in fostering economic growth. He emphasizes the importance of voluntary exchange and sound currency in creating a thriving economy. This segment underscores Munger's belief in capitalism as a driving force for prosperity and innovation, while also acknowledging the need for ethical considerations in economic practices.
"obviously we have to go back to something that's more like that's more like Adam Smith and just take the inequality in instead of the poverty I like inequality a lot better than I like poverty I mean ..."
Munger explores the significance of proper incentive structures in public policy. He warns against the pitfalls of well-intentioned policies that may inadvertently create more hardship. Munger advocates for a careful consideration of the long-term effects of policy decisions, emphasizing the need for a balance between generosity and responsibility in governance.
"stars I do not think it's written in the stars we we may have to do something so unpleasant but it looks like we're bringing back oh when when the Chinese said to the Russian peasants earn your own gr..."
In this concluding segment, Munger reflects on the cyclical nature of wealth and misfortune. He discusses how even the wealthiest families can face challenges and ultimately return to the mean. Munger's insights provide a sobering perspective on the transient nature of success and the importance of resilience in the face of life's uncertainties.
"rued with law and of course it's the combination that helped me do as well as I didn't want you've said that proper incentive structure should be set up for Public Policy too that you have to think ab..."
Munger shares his thoughts on Elon Musk, acknowledging his impressive achievements while questioning the sustainability of his ventures. He discusses the role of luck in Musk's success and the risks associated with leveraging one's position. Munger's perspective offers a critical view of the high-stakes world of modern entrepreneurship.
"rich person who talks that way is talking because he wants to hold all his wealth and keep a great and make the disparity between his wealth and well the ordinary people get greater and greater that's..."
Munger emphasizes the value of reading as a fundamental way to gain knowledge and wisdom. He discusses how literature, including classics like the Bible and Shakespeare, shapes understanding and critical thinking. This segment underscores Munger's belief that continuous learning through reading is essential for personal growth.
"that rich because I don't think it's sure that everything he's working on can work I think he can get his ass hand to him in all those I would not invest in Elon mus all myself but you've been impress..."
In a light-hearted discussion, Munger shares his enjoyment of the TV show Seinfeld, appreciating its humor and portrayal of life's absurdities. He reflects on how the show's characters navigate their self-centered lives, providing insight into human behavior and the comedic aspects of everyday challenges.
"never met with him as far as I'm concerned he doesn't exist that's the my life works better if I treat the world as he didn't exist uh let's talk just about a few cultural things I I know reading is t..."
Munger addresses the topic of age in leadership, particularly regarding political figures like Joe Biden and Donald Trump. He questions whether the demands of the presidency are too great for older individuals, suggesting that the role may be inherently challenging regardless of age. This segment prompts reflection on the nature of leadership in complex times.
"know I'm a n on books and they kind of like for Charlie's Almanac or something yeah so what do they do they send me books gifts so I get so many books in this house as gifts I no longer buy books I ju..."
Munger discusses the importance of effective laws and the need to eliminate those that are harmful or outdated. He expresses a desire to contribute to law-making, emphasizing the significance of creating a just legal framework. This segment highlights Munger's belief in the power of legislation to shape society positively.
"years old well maybe everyone in America is too old to president that may be it may be just too hard a job the way things the way things have worked out we maybe maybe this is like my cousin's my cous..."
In this segment, Munger reflects on the historical consequences of counterfeiting and the extreme measures taken to combat it. He argues for the necessity of strict penalties for fraud, suggesting that some individuals pose such a threat to society that their removal is justified. Munger's views provoke thought on justice and societal safety.
"I I think somebody like Warren who naturally thinks the way I do on this issue he'd be quite happy making laws for the whole United States and you would too yeah I I feel it was my duty to try too wha..."
Munger critiques the decriminalization of drugs in Oregon, discussing the unintended consequences that have arisen. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the complexities of addiction and the challenges of implementing effective policies. This segment serves as a cautionary tale about the balance between compassion and practicality in governance.
"medicine I can't get Becky quick penicillin because I'm a chiropractor right right but I could if I were a doctor right what else would you take on well I think taking the fraud out is also important ..."
Munger shares insights from historical leaders, advocating for a pragmatic approach to governance. He stresses the importance of learning from past mistakes and focusing on what works. This segment encapsulates Munger's philosophy of practical wisdom in leadership and decision-making.
"to have them is dead as soon as possible so you bring back more capital punishment yes I I might have less in some places and More in others I'm sure I would there's an article that just came out abou..."
Munger discusses the importance of maintaining low expectations in life as a strategy for happiness. He shares personal anecdotes about recognizing his limitations and avoiding competition in areas where he wouldn't excel. This segment highlights Munger's practical advice for navigating life's challenges with humility.
"get it right part of the advice that you give people in life is pretty basic stuff but if you follow it it's really excellent advice I think your first one is is have low expectations the second one i..."
In this reflective segment, Munger contemplates the nature of success and the regrets that come with missed opportunities. He discusses the importance of adapting to change and acknowledges that with hindsight, he could have achieved even greater success. Munger's candid thoughts provide a glimpse into the mindset of a seasoned investor.
"he couldn't it was very difficult supporting the on a professor's income and he went to all kinds of strategems he'd make his own raincoat out of a piece of oil cloth to save the money of buying a rai..."
Munger shares insights on the relationship between wealth and happiness, noting that many who acquire riches often find themselves less content. He reflects on the pitfalls of excessive wealth and the importance of maintaining a grounded perspective. This segment serves as a reminder of the complexities of human satisfaction.
"it's something I think about a lot in my own everybody knows that I could have done a lot better if I been a little smarter a little quicker what are you talking about like you've had success in every..."
Munger concludes with advice on navigating life's challenges, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and avoiding traps that can lead to unhappiness. He shares personal experiences and observations about the dangers of certain lifestyles, reinforcing the idea that awareness and caution are key to a fulfilling life.
"know Liv in his for about 60 years we're similar and but you see we're both smart enough to have watched our friends who got rich build these really fancy houses and I would say in practically every c..."
In this segment, Munger shares observations from his long life, particularly about health and habits. He notes the correlation between smoking and early heart trouble among his peers and reflects on his own choices to avoid smoking and excessive drinking, attributing his longevity to cautious living.
"cigarettes oh so I could see that coming fairly early and it's rather I tried to learn to smoke so I could be a cool kid like the other kids in high school I tried to ruin my life but it nauseated me ..."
Munger humorously addresses the secret to longevity, stating he has avoided standard ways of failing. He discusses the absurdity of extreme measures some take to extend life, advocating instead for a sensible approach to living well and avoiding 'crazy' behaviors.
"drinking now I did occasionally get drunk and throw up that gave me the nausea which enabled me to give a liquor do you still I mean living to 100 everybody wants to know what's the secret what is the..."
Munger emphasizes the importance of steering clear of irrational behaviors and decisions. He warns that craziness is more common than people think and encourages listeners to avoid it at all costs, sharing his perspective on how to navigate life wisely.
"they find they got a family full of Parkinson's and of course I watch my mother and my sister die of parkon disease and so I'm familiar with that one yeah that's a very unpleasant thing I do not like ..."
In this segment, Munger discusses his approach to wealth distribution, contrasting his decisions with those of Warren Buffett. He reflects on the importance of giving back and how he has allocated his wealth to ensure it benefits future generations.
"down yes avoid crazy at all costs crazy is way more common than you think it's easy to slip into crazy just avoid it avoid it avoid it of course of course of course I think another thing you've said i..."
Munger shares his thoughts on aging and the changes it brings. He candidly discusses the physical limitations that come with age and how his priorities have shifted, illustrating the acceptance of life's natural progression.
"your bucket list anything you'd like to do well that's an interesting question I am so old and weak compared to what I was when I was 96 that I no longer want to catch a 200 lb tuna it's just too goda..."
Munger highlights the importance of maintaining social connections in old age. He describes his active social life and how he embraces opportunities for interaction, viewing it as a key component of a fulfilling life.
"go out after them there are things you give up with time and you're pretty active you've got a busy social schedule you're on Zoom you have breakfasts and lunch I like it that way yeah that's my idea ..."
Reflecting on his long marriage, Munger discusses the significance of companionship in life. He acknowledges the challenges that come with aging and how a supportive partner can make a substantial difference in navigating life's difficulties.
"boom the one grab I never made was for a third wife too late why it's it's a too late there are people for whom it's a NE neity necessity there are more there's so much more comfortable marriage than ..."
Munger opens up about personal tragedies, including the loss of his son. He shares how he coped with grief and emphasizes the importance of resilience and 'soldiering through' tough times, highlighting the advancements in medicine that have improved outcomes for future generations.
"way to 86 which is a long life and now there are some tough stretches but most lives have some tough stretches and hers came very near the end I mean Charlie people probably look at you and think you'..."
In this reflective segment, Munger discusses the progress of civilization over the last two centuries. He expresses pride in humanity's achievements, particularly in medicine, and how these advancements have positively impacted lives.
"soldiering go ahead and cry away but you have to you can't squit you when you can't you can cry all right but you can't quit you've had time in your life when you've done that sure I cried all the tim..."
Munger shares advice on living a life that aligns with the obituary one would want to leave behind. He discusses the importance of intentional living and how he and Buffett have chosen to live modestly despite their wealth, focusing on values over materialism.
"and it's been a good thing to watch Charlie Warren Buffett told me that a long long time ago you told him he should live his life he should write his obituary the way he wants it written and then live..."
In the closing segment, Munger reiterates the importance of resilience in facing life's hardships. He emphasizes that while challenges are inevitable, the key is to persist and recognize opportunities when they arise, encapsulating his philosophy on navigating life.
"good for the children that it would spoil them yeah it's who a rich family you think your duty is to use the wealth to live grandly that's what everybody's doing with the money you will learn from the..."