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Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations, Noah's Ark, and Flood Myths | Lex Fridman Podcast #487

Deciphering Secrets of Ancient Civilizations, Noah's Ark, and Flood Myths | Lex Fridman Podcast #487

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Irving Finkel is a scholar of ancient languages and a longtime curator at the British Museum, renowned for his expertise in Mesopotamian history and cuneiform writing. He specializes in reading and interpreting cuneiform inscriptions, including tablets from Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian, and Assyrian contexts. He became widely known for studying a tablet with a Mesopotamian flood story that predates the biblical Noah narrative, which he presented in his book "The Ark Before Noah" and in a documentary that involved building a circular ark based on the tablet's technical instructions. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep487-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *Transcript:* https://lexfridman.com/irving-finkel-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Irving's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drirvingfinkel/ The Ark Before Noah (book): https://amzn.to/4j2U0DW Irving Lectures Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYXwZvOwHjVcFUi9iEqirkXRaCUJdXGha British Museum Video Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0LQM0SAx603A6p5EJ9DVcESqQReT7QyK British Museum Website: https://www.britishmuseum.org/ The Great Diary Project: https://thegreatdiaryproject.co.uk/ *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Shopify:* Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep487-sb *Miro:* Online collaborative whiteboard platform. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/miro-ep487-sb *Chevron:* Reliable energy for data centers. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/chevron-ep487-sb *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep487-sb *AG1:* All-in-one daily nutrition drink. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/ag1-ep487-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:58 - Origins of human language 7:04 - Cuneiform 14:17 - Controversial theory about Göbekli Tepe 25:29 - How to write and speak Cuneiform 30:48 - Primitive human language 32:31 - Development of writing systems 33:25 - Decipherment of Cuneiform 45:57 - Limits of language 50:56 - Art of translation 56:06 - Gods 1:01:31 - Ghosts 1:11:19 - Ancient flood stories 1:21:26 - Noah's Ark 1:32:49 - The Royal Game of Ur 1:45:48 - British Museum 1:53:13 - Evolution of human civilization *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman

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0:00 - 1:00
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Introduction

"- The following is a conversation with Irving Finkel, who is a scholar of ancient languages. He's a curator at the British Museum for over 45 years, and is a much admired and respected world expert. H..."

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1:00 - 7:04
6:04 duration957 words

Origins of human language

"Let's go back a few thousand years. - The first attempts at writing that we could call writing go back to the middle of the fourth millennium, say around 3500 BC, something like that. There were peopl..."

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7:04 - 14:23
7:19 duration1198 words

Cuneiform

"- We should say that the name of that system that lasted for 3,000 years is cuneiform. - Yeah. So, in the 19th century, about 1840, 1850, they started to find these things on excavations in Iraq, the ..."

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14:23 - 25:29
11:05 duration1962 words

Controversial theory about Göbekli Tepe

"- I do - ... cuneiform type tablets? - Or, or pictographic type tablets, before the cuneiform and it's drawing type, and I'll tell you why. Because there's this marvelous site in Turkey called Gobekli..."

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25:29 - 30:48
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How to write and speak Cuneiform

"- So, a lot of the cuneiform language is already deciphered. Can you speak to the deciphering process? How hard is it? Maybe take us to this place of for you yourself first learning a language. Figuri..."

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30:48 - 32:31
1:43 duration313 words

Primitive human language

"personally believe that Neanderthals and early Homo sapiens, for sure, had language. For sure they talked to one another. It's impossible that they didn't. The point came when they did, they did. And ..."

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32:31 - 33:25
0:53 duration155 words

Development of writing systems

"- So what do you think is the motivation, the primary driver of developing written language? Is it... Does it go hand-in-hand with civilization? - I think that the media in which it appears is when th..."

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33:25 - 45:57
12:32 duration2049 words

Decipherment of Cuneiform

"- All right. So, deciphering, the process of deciphering. - So when I started, there were grammars and scientists, and dictionaries. Everything was marvelous. It was all basically deciphered. All you ..."

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45:57 - 50:57
4:59 duration753 words

Limits of language

"- I apologize to be philosophical, but Wittgenstein, the philosopher, said, "The limits of our language is the limits of our world." So to what degree did the languages that were encoded in cuneiform ..."

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50:57 - 56:06
5:09 duration891 words

Art of translation

"- You have said the translation is part archeology, part detective work, part poetry. Can we just speak about translation and the art of it a bit more? - Yes. - I mean, it's such an incredible discipl..."

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56:06 - 1:01:34
5:27 duration947 words

Gods

"In the writing, what was their relationship to the divine? - Relationship with the divine, well, the first thing to say is that they had a large pantheon of gods. So there were three gods at the top, ..."

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1:01:34 - 1:11:19
9:45 duration1526 words

Ghosts

"ghosts is, that is clear from the inscriptions, all of them that I managed to find, that nobody ever asked themselves, "Do these things exist or not?" Or, "Did I really see them or not?" They just too..."

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1:11:19 - 1:21:27
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Ancient flood stories

"You mentioned floods, and speaking of stories that have been lost and found, you're well-known for a lot of things. One of them is decoding the so-called Ark Tablet. - Yeah. That was a challenge, beca..."

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1:21:27 - 1:32:50
11:23 duration2111 words

Noah's Ark

"- Do you think this ark in the tablet actually was ever built? You did build a replica one third the size. And people should check out, you tell the story of that wonderfully. What did you learn from ..."

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1:32:50 - 1:45:49
12:58 duration2044 words

The Royal Game of Ur

"- You have to tell me about the- the world of ancient games. Maybe we can start with the ancient Royal Game of Ur. What is it and how were you somehow able to crack the rules of it? - Well, the Royal ..."

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7:24 duration1193 words

British Museum

"- As you mentioned, you are the curator at possibly the greatest place on Earth, the British Museum. - Oh, yes. - Can you tell me, what are some of the incredible magical aspects of the British Museum..."

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1:53:13 - 2:05:00
11:46 duration2138 words

Evolution of human civilization

"- There are so many questions I want to ask you. What wisdom do you think the people from whom these artifacts came had, that we modern-day humans may have lost or lost in part or in whole? So it's of..."