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Patrick sits down with Dan Sundheim, Founder and CIO of D1 Capital Partners. They discuss Dan’s unique path from anonymous posting on Value Investors Club to managing one of the world's top crossover funds. The conversation covers the distinct dynamics between public and private markets, with deep dives into D1’s investments in SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic. Dan offers his perspective on the future of AI scaling laws, the evolving landscape of software, and the enduring value of fundamental short selling. They also explore lessons learned from the GameStop era, the importance of resilience, and significant geopolitical risks facing the global economy. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 1:05 Public vs. Private Markets 9:10 LLMs as a Business Model 23:23 The Future of Hyperscalers 27:45 AI's Impact on Traditional Software 36:31 Surviving the GameStop Short Squeeze 49:54 Big Private Bets: Rivian and SpaceX 54:26 The Art of Short Selling 1:04:28 Early Career 1:17:11 Geopolitics and the Semiconductor Collision Course 1:22:05 Traits of Great Leadership 1:23:20 The Kindest Thing #investing #hedgefund #D1Capital #DanSundheim #AI #SpaceX #stocks #finance #business #privateequity Presented by Ramp: https://ramp.com/ Sponsored by Vanta, WorkOS, Rogo, and Ridgeline: https://www.vanta.com/invest https://workos.com/ https://rogo.ai/invest https://www.ridgelineapps.com/ ****** Patrick O'Shaughnessy is the CEO of Positive Sum. All opinions expressed by Patrick and podcast guests are solely their own and do not reflect the opinion of Positive Sum. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions. Clients of Positive Sum may maintain positions in the securities discussed in this podcast. To learn more, visit psum.vc
An introduction to Dan Sundheim, highlighting his impact on both private and public markets as a passionate investor.
"My guest today is Dan Sundheim, the founder and CIO of D1 Capital Partners. Anyone that loves investing in markets has surely heard Dan's name before. I think you'll very quickly realize that he is on..."
Dan Sundheim discusses his perspectives on public versus private investing, focusing on the current dynamics in both sectors.
"I want to spend a bunch of time talking about public versus private. You do both. You started investing in privates more than 10 years ago. You were kind of one of the pioneers of this. You've got som..."
Dan Sundheim examines what his private portfolio companies, like OpenAI and Anthropic, reveal about market trends and innovation.
"If you think about the key companies in your private portfolio today, Anthropic, OpenAI, companies like SpaceX, Ramp, et cetera. What does that group teach you? Like, what do you think you see coming ..."
Dan shares his investment approach and thoughts on various AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic.
"When you first were considering your initial investments in OpenAI and Anthropic, did you pattern match their businesses or their business models on anything that you had seen historically? Did they r..."
Analysis of the viability and future of AI companies in terms of business modeling and scalability.
"How would you frame the debate today about LLMs as a business model? Now that we know a bit more. Back then it was like, are these businesses going to ever generate an economic return? Like, I think o..."
Exploring potential impacts of AI on hyperscalers and how companies may evolve their business strategies to survive in a shifting landscape.
"I think people have thought of it as pretty damn good at the hyperscalers, do you think the future is different as a result of AI? I do. I mean, I've kind of thought this for probably about a year now..."
Dan Sundheim advises AI executives on how to navigate the complex landscape of scaling their businesses while maintaining strategic focus.
"If you were giving advice to the executives at these companies and telling them what to lean into and what to look out for over the next five years, I'm curious what you would say because The scaling ..."
Exploring the implications of AI surpassing human intelligence and the need for meaningful human engagement beyond basic income.
"we, as humanity, I just think we've never encountered something that we're about to encounter. And so with that kind of profound change, like we're going from the smartest animals on the planet, we we..."
A discussion about the author's experiences investing in Rivian and SpaceX, highlighting key lessons learned from both ventures.
"One of the most interesting stories you've told me before was this time when you made, I think, similarly sized investments in Rivian and SpaceX at the same time. Can you tell that story, both big, bi..."
An analysis of SpaceX's strategic advancements and how they have changed the launch market significantly.
"SpaceX was pretty obvious to me that the launch business, at a minimum, was going to be a very good business. What they had achieved, I thought, was just like from an engineering perspective, like ins..."
Examining how advancements in satellite technology are reshaping the telecommunications landscape with improved cost and access.
"What that means, very simply, is that the cost of launching everything goes down dramatically. And the engineering that they've done with the satellites to harness solar power and be able to deliver r..."
Analyzing the factors contributing to reduced market efficiency and the implications for investors.
"Why do you think markets are less efficient now? I think it's just the people transacting in the market or the nature of the institutions transacting in the market. So if you go back 10, 20 years ago,..."
The impact of sharing insights and communicating consistently within an investment network to foster relationships and knowledge.
"For me at this point, I don't, like most of you, like, I don't know. Like, do they nice to me because, you know, they think I can do something for them. You know, there are a group of people in my lif..."
Reflecting on how relationships with entrepreneurs evolve over time and the significance of staying connected beyond the initial investment.
"Look, when you're investing in a company privately, there is obviously a financial aspect to it that's the driver. But there's also a relationship part of it, in that you are signing up to hopefully h..."
Reflecting on the transition from a bank analyst to leading investment strategies at Viking.
"It was 2002. I was working at a private equity group within Bear Stearns. I always had an interest in stocks, but I didn't have the tool set to analyze stocks until I got there and I kind of deeply un..."
Describing the pivotal moment of conducting a case study that led to significant career opportunities.
"One of the hedge funds I went to interview at was a spinoff of SAC that did healthcare. I had no particular interest in healthcare, but it was just where I got an interview. Back then, hedge funds wer..."