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Robert Rodriguez is a legendary filmmaker and creator of Sin City, El Mariachi, Desperado, Spy Kids, Machete, From Dusk Till Dawn, Alita: Battle Angel, The Faculty, and his newest venture Brass Knuckle Films. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep465-sb See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. *Transcript:* https://lexfridman.com/robert-rodriguez-transcript *CONTACT LEX:* *Feedback* - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey *AMA* - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama *Hiring* - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring *Other* - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact *EPISODE LINKS:* Robert's X: https://x.com/rodriguez Robert's Instagram: https://instagram.com/rodriguez/ Brass Knuckle Films: https://brassknucklefilms.com/ Rebel without a Crew (book): https://amzn.to/3G7gtQJ Rebel without a Crew (audiobook): https://amzn.to/3Ri5wyc *SPONSORS:* To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: *Invideo AI:* AI video generator. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/invideoai-ep465-sb *Brain.fm:* Music for focus. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/brainfm-ep465-sb *NetSuite:* Business management software. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/netsuite-ep465-sb *Shopify:* Sell stuff online. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep465-sb *LMNT:* Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep465-sb *OUTLINE:* 0:00 - Episode highlight 2:07 - Introduction 4:06 - Explosions and having only one take 11:40 - Success and failure 20:30 - Filmmaking on a low budget 32:43 - El Mariachi 44:12 - Creativity 1:06:07 - Limitations 1:12:24 - Handling criticism 1:28:33 - Action films 1:39:55 - Quentin Tarantino 1:49:54 - Desperado 1:50:56 - Salma Hayek 1:55:42 - Danny Trejo 2:00:56 - Filming in Austin 2:07:07 - Editing 2:16:37 - Sound design 2:21:45 - Deadlines 2:25:16 - Alita: Battle Angel 2:33:38 - James Cameron 2:46:41 - Sin City 3:00:50 - Manifesting 3:12:14 - Memories and journaling 3:21:57 - Mortality *PODCAST LINKS:* - Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast - Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr - Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 - RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ - Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips *SOCIAL LINKS:* - X: https://x.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://instagram.com/lexfridman - TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://facebook.com/lexfridman - Patreon: https://patreon.com/lexfridman - Telegram: https://t.me/lexfridman - Reddit: https://reddit.com/r/lexfridman
Robert Rodriguez shares his experiences with filming scenes in one take, emphasizing the importance of working with what you have. He recounts a specific instance where he had to rely on a single take for an explosion scene, illustrating the creative challenges and unexpected outcomes that arise in filmmaking.
"I write the script in December. January Josh Arnett, Marley Shelton come down fly Franken. We're shooting for 10 hours on my green screen. We shoot that opening sequence. Incredible opening sequence. ..."
Rodriguez reflects on his early encounters with filmmaking legends like Jim Cameron. He discusses how being around such talented individuals pushes you to elevate your own craft, sharing a humorous anecdote about his own attempts to impress Cameron with his steady cam skills.
"The following is a conversation with Robert Rodriguez, a legendary filmmaker and creator of Sens City, El Mariachi Desperado, Spy Kids, Machete, From Dustel Dawn, Alita, Battle Angel, The Faculty, and..."
In this segment, Rodriguez talks about the unpredictable nature of filmmaking, particularly during explosive scenes. He shares a story from 'Desperado' where an unexpected explosion led to a memorable cinematic moment, highlighting how embracing chaos can lead to creative breakthroughs.
"there was like one take and you only have one take to get it right? Oh, all the time where you're just like or just you know how long it'll take to reset and you're just But then you know what you you..."
Rodriguez discusses how mistakes during filming can lead to unexpected artistic results. He recounts a mishap during 'From Dusk Till Dawn' that resulted in a visually stunning scene, emphasizing the importance of rolling with the punches and finding beauty in the chaos.
"it'll be big and orange. Okay, we we'll shoot it in slow motion so it lasts a little longer because it just goes poof. So, I told the actors, I don't know how big this fireball is going to be, but jus..."
Rodriguez shares his philosophy on failure and success in filmmaking. He encourages filmmakers to sift through the ashes of their failures to find the keys to future successes, using personal anecdotes to illustrate how setbacks can lead to unexpected opportunities.
"radio controlled and we can't tell cuz we're shooting film, you know. So, we're like, "Oh shit, let's watch the dailies." Sure enough. Let's see if we can get maybe I can scratch the film right there...."
In this segment, Rodriguez emphasizes the importance of following one's instincts in creative endeavors. He shares a story about his experience with the film 'Four Rooms' and how the lessons learned from that project led to significant successes in his later works.
"there and touch that up. That's real flame that burned and it ended up looking great. So then the next week when we came back to shoot that other shot that didn't work, we came back and they had repai..."
Rodriguez reflects on the parallels between filmmaking and life, discussing how both involve crafting a narrative amidst chaos. He encourages listeners to embrace their own stories and the unpredictability that comes with them, drawing connections between personal experiences and cinematic storytelling.
"Where's the path to actually make something good out of this? And that's a skill, right? I call it, and it's one of my favorite stories. I was doing one of these talks and I said, "Come talk about cre..."
Rodriguez concludes with insights on how perceived failures can lead to greater successes. He shares examples from his career, illustrating how the lessons learned from setbacks can pave the way for future achievements, reinforcing the idea that every experience contributes to one's creative journey.
"go blind instinct or should you do instinct with some studying? Okay. Well I could have gone and studied and I would have found that anthologies never work. Like even when it's Copala Scorsesei, Woody..."
Rodriguez discusses the concept of time in relation to creative work, explaining that some projects may not be appreciated immediately. He encourages creators to persist through failures, as the true value of their work may only be recognized years later, reinforcing the idea of committing to a body of work.
"amazing lesson to have because it makes you feel better about failure. Think of like The Thing by John Carpenter. You put that movie out the same weekend as ET. That thing bombed. Critics were calling..."
Reflecting on his book 'Rebel Without a Crew,' Rodriguez recounts the journey of creating his first films and the unexpected successes that followed. He highlights the importance of patience and the ability to reassess past failures with new insights, which can lead to future opportunities.
"know, later cuz you might not have had some information you have now that makes you look at it a lot differently. Like when I did I just uh did the audio book for Rebel Without a Crew, which I thank y..."
Rodriguez explains how he utilized limited resources to create impactful films. He shares anecdotes about his early filmmaking experiences, emphasizing that creativity often flourishes under constraints, and how he turned challenges into opportunities for innovation.
"released it and and did a sequel and did another sequel. If you look back in time, good thing I didn't get my way. My way had had this for a vision and it needed to do that which you would never know ..."
Discussing his transition from video to film, Rodriguez reflects on the technical aspects of filmmaking. He describes how he adapted to new technologies and methods, showcasing his innovative spirit and willingness to experiment with different formats to enhance storytelling.
"Rebel Without a Crew is $7,000 movie. So, let's put it all in context. But you know, you know, you're going to hire bigger actors. You can get a big actor like Tiana Reeves for a $20 million movie. Yo..."
Rodriguez shares how limitations in equipment and budget can lead to creative storytelling. He illustrates this with examples from his early films, explaining how he leveraged constraints to develop unique narratives and visual styles that resonated with audiences.
"would start making movies with that instead. Now I have for $8 I have a 2hour erasable tape of sound and picture. So I got into digital basically really early. I was doing which was really frowned upo..."
Rodriguez recounts the origins of 'Spy Kids,' explaining how his childhood experiences and family dynamics influenced the film's creation. He emphasizes the importance of using personal stories and familiar settings to connect with audiences, leading to the film's success.
"my dad bought a second VCR for his business cuz I stole his other one. And I found that if I hooked them together I could play on one and use that pause button on the second. And this was the limitati..."
Reflecting on his award-winning short film 'Bedhead,' Rodriguez discusses the creative process behind it. He highlights how the film served as a stepping stone to his feature film 'El Mariachi,' showcasing the importance of experimentation and learning through short projects.
"But when you're a teenager, you don't know anybody who can come be your action star. And if you just bring your high school buddies, well, they just look like high school kids. So I use my little brot..."
Rodriguez explains his innovative use of reverse photography in his films, particularly in 'Bedhead.' He shares how this technique allowed him to create unique visual effects and enhance storytelling, demonstrating his resourcefulness and creativity in filmmaking.
"bucks, and it was 8 minutes. I bet I can make an 80minute movie for $8,000 if I'd use the same method. So that movie I did 6 months later I was making Mariachi cuz it opened up my mind to that I could..."
In this segment, Rodriguez discusses how limitations in equipment can inspire creativity. He shares insights on how he turned challenges into opportunities for storytelling, emphasizing that constraints can lead to innovative solutions and unique cinematic experiences.
"approximation of the lens. But you could shoot slow motion. I could do reverse photography. If I filmed upside down, I could do because if I do a fast push into her, I'll never get the focus in right...."
Rodriguez reflects on the making of 'El Mariachi,' detailing the challenges he faced and the lessons learned. He emphasizes the importance of perseverance and adaptability in the filmmaking process, showcasing how his early experiences shaped his career.
"That's a lot. That's a lot of work. Remember I drew it. I drew it over Well I was a daily cartoonist by then, so I was pretty fast. But still, it's that's why it's only pencled. It's not inked but it ..."
Robert Rodriguez shares his unique approach to filmmaking, emphasizing the importance of shooting in one take. He discusses how limitations in equipment and budget can lead to creative solutions, using his experience with 'El Mariachi' as a case study. This segment highlights the innovative mindset that can turn constraints into opportunities for storytelling.
"upside down. I have the strings in the back cuz you're not going to be looking at the back. And as it goes back, you pull it back and then when you reverse it, it goes and it looks so good. you can't ..."
Rodriguez recounts the origins of 'El Mariachi,' explaining how he shot the film with minimal resources and without knowing if the footage would even be usable. He reflects on the naivety that allowed him to create something remarkable, emphasizing the importance of learning through doing rather than just writing scripts. This segment captures the essence of his filmmaking philosophy.
"one take. So, my idea was this. How gangster is that? Well, it it was a test film. Right. Right. I thought it was I thought it was going to be a test film. Yeah. It's the only movie in history ever ma..."
In this segment, Rodriguez elaborates on his creative process while making 'El Mariachi.' He discusses how he developed the story and characters, using index cards to outline his ideas. Rodriguez emphasizes the significance of creativity over technical skills, showcasing how he crafted a compelling narrative despite budget constraints.
"one take everything. I remember one time I was telling the actor, "Man, I told you to run through that shot and you and you go, oh, let me do it again." No, one take, dude. Just think about next time...."
Rodriguez reflects on the benefits of approaching filmmaking with a sense of naivety. He explains how not expecting anyone to see 'El Mariachi' allowed him to take creative risks that ultimately led to its success. This segment highlights the importance of making art for oneself and the unexpected outcomes that can arise from such an approach.
"said, I want a guy with a guitar case full of weapons going from town to town like Road Warrior. But I don't have enough money for the first one to do that. That'll be the second movie I do. How about..."
In this insightful segment, Rodriguez discusses the nature of creativity and its role in various artistic endeavors. He shares his belief that creativity transcends specific skills and can be applied across different fields. Rodriguez encourages embracing creativity as a way to enhance one's primary craft, illustrating how diverse experiences contribute to a richer artistic vision.
"mariachi. Mariachi's doing a voice over. It's easy to shoot. We can do the voice later. We don't have to sing sound. There was even a scene when he walks into town where we saw these coconuts, a guy c..."
Rodriguez concludes with a powerful message about the creative spirit. He describes how creativity flows through individuals when they act as conduits for ideas rather than trying to control them. This segment emphasizes the importance of letting go of ego and allowing creativity to manifest freely, providing valuable insights for aspiring filmmakers and artists.
"character. Well, look, Bruce Wayne lost his parents. You could say, well, does the parents have to die? Well, no, but it's not going to propel him like it's not gonna it's not gonna drive him like tha..."
Rodriguez advises aspiring filmmakers to stop identifying as 'aspiring' and instead take action. He shares his own experiences of feeling unprepared while making 'El Mariachi' and stresses that readiness comes through experience and action. He encourages filmmakers to dive into projects without waiting for the perfect moment.
"blocking it. Mhm. And if I were to do this and I'm flowing and if I were to say, "Wow, I just wrote 10 cards. I don't know if I can write more. How did I do that?" You just shut the pipe cuz your ego ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez elaborates on the necessity of taking action to unlock creativity. He warns against waiting for inspiration and emphasizes that the creative spirit rewards those who actively engage in their craft. By taking initiative, filmmakers can discover their potential and create meaningful work.
"through and the ideas will come and the answers will come because it's not you. And if you can take your ego out of like you'll be blessed with this neverending flow of ideas because don't take owners..."
Rodriguez reflects on his multifaceted role in creating 'El Mariachi,' where he took on various responsibilities from directing to cinematography. He shares insights into the resourcefulness required for low-budget filmmaking and how his hands-on approach allowed him to maintain creative control and adapt to challenges.
"that guy. Jump in. No, it's not you. You just got to be the hands. And that that that relieves a lot of pressure from you cuz then you don't have to ever have to do anything really. You just have to b..."
Rodriguez discusses his innovative techniques for filming without sound and how he creatively edited scenes to maintain synchronization. He explains the challenges of working with non-actors and how he adapted his shooting style to ensure authenticity and spontaneity in performances.
"another and I use almost every frame of those shots cuz I was cutting in the camera now after I shoot like let's say you know tell me your name Lex. What's your last name? Freriedman. Where do you liv..."
In this segment, Rodriguez shares his approach to directing non-actors, emphasizing the importance of creating a comfortable environment. He recounts his experiences with actors who were initially nervous but delivered authentic performances due to the relaxed atmosphere he fostered on set.
"ahead and record them like grabbing the bottle or any action they did, opening the suitcase, I'd have all the sound effects, too. I just had to sync it by hand. That's a lot of work for me. But I got ..."
Rodriguez describes the intimate connection between a director and actors, likening it to a dance. He explains how being physically present on set allows him to capture spontaneous moments and maintain the energy of a scene, highlighting the importance of being in the moment during filming.
"how do you recreate that later on a big movie is just building a rapport, making a safe zone for your actors. Quinton once told me, sometimes being, you know we're talking about directing, yeah someti..."
Rodriguez reflects on the magic that occurs during filming, where the collaboration between director and actors creates unforgettable moments. He emphasizes that true creativity comes from a collective effort, and he aims to capture these moments as they unfold, rather than relying solely on scripted direction.
"are still walking behind him on the green screen setting lights. And I'm like, I'm rolling. We're ready to go. We're getting this. So, I can already tell we're already in the moment. What you're doing..."
Rodriguez discusses his friendship with Quentin Tarantino and their shared experiences in the film industry. He highlights the significance of their collaboration and how their unique styles complement each other, contributing to the evolution of modern filmmaking.
"action connected with the actor that's because it's like a dance you end up that's so to hear remember on on Dust Till Dawn Michael Parks in the opening scene he's talking about the two guys that are ..."
Rodriguez recounts his first encounter with Quentin Tarantino at the Toronto Film Festival in 1992. He reflects on their shared experiences as emerging filmmakers and the excitement of discovering mutual admiration for each other's work, setting the stage for a legendary collaboration in cinema.
"you said you had the pen in hand and you were you were there. It's crazy. It's crazy. All right. Your friendship with Tarantino is just fascinating and just the whole timeline of the history of movies..."
Rodriguez discusses the significance of audience reactions during screenings, particularly his experience with Tarantino at the premiere of 'El Mariachi.' He highlights how the context of a film's creation can enhance the audience's appreciation and emotional response, making the viewing experience more impactful.
"a because I knew I was going to be doing a panel discussion with him. They asked us to do a panel discussion about violence and movies in the '9s even though it was only 92. So we're on a panel togeth..."
Rodriguez reflects on the challenges and creativity involved in making 'El Mariachi' on a shoestring budget. He shares anecdotes about the innovative techniques he employed to overcome limitations, emphasizing that constraints can often lead to greater creativity and resourcefulness in filmmaking.
"I'll tell you what what what happened. Um I'm not I'm very shy person, you know, very shy. I'd have to go talk. I'm sure you probably feel like you're not an aator or anything, you know, just have to ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez explains the intricate editing techniques he used in 'El Mariachi' to create a seamless narrative despite technical limitations. He discusses how understanding the filmmaking process, including camera operation and sound design, contributes to effective storytelling and enhances the viewer's experience.
"that stuff, right? So then when they see the movie, in fact, I think my wife was in the audience. She said at Sundance people were laughing so much at your intro. They just wanted to hear a story like..."
Rodriguez emphasizes the importance of embracing limitations in filmmaking. He argues that constraints can foster creativity, allowing filmmakers to develop a unique identity and style. He draws parallels between filmmaking and painting, suggesting that limitations can lead to innovative artistic expressions.
"long lens pulling my own focus. When I finally had to do a real movie, I was operating the camera in my first real movie with a crew and I get the camera and a guy comes over and he focuses for you. T..."
Rodriguez shares valuable advice he received from Steven Spielberg about handling criticism and maintaining focus as a filmmaker. He recounts how Spielberg encouraged him to 'not blink' in the face of adversity, reinforcing the idea that resilience is key to a successful career in the film industry.
"because when you can do anything, you come, it can be crippling. when I knew I could only use those things from Mariachi, it's like, "All right, well it's very it's very simple." Now, let me show you ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez discusses the pressures filmmakers face after achieving success. He reflects on the fear of not living up to expectations with subsequent projects and the importance of staying true to one's creative vision despite external pressures and criticism.
"directors where both the movie is genius and the process of making it is creative genius. It's like fun to watch both to know of both. You know what I believe right? It's like from somewhere else. I h..."
Rodriguez elaborates on the emotional toll that criticism can take on filmmakers, particularly early in their careers. He shares insights on how to cultivate resilience and maintain creativity in the face of negative feedback, drawing from his own experiences in the industry.
"filmmakers especially early on in their journey critics and the audience can destroy them meaning like it it creates too much of a burden too much uh just wear them down to where they're almost scared..."
Rodriguez discusses the importance of committing to a body of work as a filmmaker. He reflects on how this commitment can help navigate the challenges of the industry and maintain a creative flow, encouraging aspiring filmmakers to focus on their journey rather than external validation.
"don't know how I'm going to do this horror movie. Like I'm just never done anything like that. You start getting you know afraid cuz you go the second thing he said, "Oh, just just just you're going t..."
In this concluding segment, Rodriguez shares his thoughts on the future of his filmmaking career and the exploration of new creative avenues. He emphasizes the joy of filmmaking and the importance of remaining open to new experiences and opportunities as he continues to evolve as an artist.
"film making at a studio level because if I make even if I make a good movie if I make a great movie he's making great movies and he's getting this dog shit. I don't know if I could take it you know. S..."
Robert Rodriguez shares insights from his TV show 'Rebel Without a Crew,' where he guided novice filmmakers to create a feature film on a low budget. He emphasizes how the experience transformed their perception of what's possible in filmmaking, fostering confidence and creativity. Rodriguez highlights the importance of embracing challenges and learning through the creative process.
"of film students don't get this job, so give up that dream." So I was like, "Oh I guess I got the best job." But then I started working with my kids when we did uh I had a TV show called Rebel Without..."
Rodriguez discusses how working with his children on film projects has taught them valuable life lessons. He reflects on the unpredictability of both filmmaking and life, illustrating how overcoming obstacles on set mirrors real-life challenges. This segment emphasizes the dual role of filmmaking as both a creative endeavor and a means of imparting essential life skills.
"follow on show which is where you make Red 11. Yes. So that's the one I did. So then it came time for me to do one. So I made a movie called Red 11 based on my experiences in the medical hospital. But..."
In this segment, Rodriguez explains how the creative process involves problem-solving and adaptability. He shares anecdotes about his children's experiences on set, highlighting how they learned to navigate unexpected challenges. Rodriguez emphasizes that creativity thrives in environments where limitations exist, encouraging aspiring filmmakers to embrace the unpredictable nature of their craft.
"though it's only two weeks. They've got other interests. They don't want to be filmmakers. I thought they were going to be like, all right, I'm out of here after one day. But instead, he came to me wh..."
Rodriguez describes his innovative approach to enhancing creativity among actors by incorporating painting into their filming routine. He explains how this practice stimulates different parts of the brain, fostering a deeper creative connection. This segment showcases the intersection of visual art and filmmaking, illustrating how diverse creative activities can enhance performance and storytelling.
"not ready to make my project." It's like, "You're not ready for life either. You're like this all day. You're you're dodging shit that's going on. How come art has to be perfect?" It's like, it should..."
Rodriguez shares experiences of collaborative problem-solving on set, illustrating how creative solutions emerge from teamwork. He recounts a specific instance with actor Joseph Gordon-Levitt, demonstrating how collaboration can lead to innovative filmmaking techniques. This segment highlights the importance of collective creativity in overcoming challenges and enhancing the filmmaking process.
"brain. Um, it was funny. I think uh Josh Brolan's girlfriend said, "Josh, hey, my girlfriend just said she said his wife now, but time are you guys doing drugs? You leave the set." And you come back a..."
Rodriguez reflects on the rewarding experience of mentoring his children in filmmaking. He discusses how working together on projects has strengthened their bond and provided valuable lessons. This segment emphasizes the dual role of filmmaking as a family activity and a mentorship opportunity, showcasing how creativity can flourish in a supportive environment.
"we have to do because we're not going to we'll be here all day and we're trying to get if we're going to worry about where they go just go boom boom boom boom boom boom boom and then we'll place the c..."
In this segment, Rodriguez discusses the significance of establishing a creative identity through projects and collaborations. He shares how creating a production company with his children has inspired them to generate new ideas and pursue their creative passions. This segment underscores the importance of taking initiative and embracing one's identity as a creator.
"these crazy skills. was like, "My son is, you know, conducting the orchestra the James Bond orchestra in London for the Spy Kid score, a score he wrote cuz I can't write at his level because he was al..."
Rodriguez outlines his vision for future filmmaking, focusing on action films that resonate with audiences. He discusses the demand for action content in the industry and how his production company aims to meet that need. This segment highlights the strategic approach to filmmaking, emphasizing the balance between creativity and market demand.
"headsets? Yeah, they gave us a budget. They they they're dying for content. They gave us a budget. We shot a 20-minute action movie called The Limit with Michelle Rodriguez and Norman Reus where you'r..."
Rodriguez delves into the elements that make a great action film, emphasizing character development and relatability. He analyzes popular action films, discussing how strong characters enhance the narrative. This segment provides insights into the art of crafting engaging action sequences while maintaining emotional depth.
"a movie. A lot of people don't complete a movie and it still counts as a view. They may watch five minutes and change the channel. So, do you complete a movie? That's really where they, you know, real..."
Rodriguez discusses the importance of audience engagement in the filmmaking process. He shares his philosophy of involving the audience as active participants rather than passive viewers. This segment emphasizes the need for filmmakers to consider audience perspectives and desires when creating content.
"can make at a lower cost. A $20 million action film is very cheap. Studios don't know how to make them that cheap. That's why they'll pay for an independent to go do it. And right now that's the key i..."
In this segment, Rodriguez reflects on the emotional narratives within action films, using examples from classics like 'The Terminator.' He discusses how emotional stakes enhance the viewing experience, making action films resonate on a deeper level. This segment highlights the balance between action and emotional storytelling in successful films.
"keep the cost down. Can I actually ask you just to focus in on action? You've created a lot of epic action films. What makes for a great action film? It comes down to the character, you know, like if ..."
Robert Rodriguez shares his deep appreciation for action films, particularly highlighting the emotional storytelling in classics like 'The Terminator.' He discusses how a well-crafted action film can evoke strong feelings, drawing parallels to his own work in 'El Mariachi,' which he views as a tragic love story. Rodriguez emphasizes the importance of emotional stakes in filmmaking, illustrating how character fates can resonate with both creators and audiences.
"seem artificial in comparison. You know aliens, you know, we got to get off this planet now cuz this whole thing's going to blow up. You know, they like there's a timeline. So you're it's already urge..."
Rodriguez reflects on the ending of 'El Mariachi,' revealing how the tragic fate of the female lead affected him personally during the filmmaking process. He recounts the studio's initial hesitation about the ending and how audience reactions ultimately validated his creative choices. This segment highlights the emotional weight of storytelling and the unexpected journey of a filmmaker's first project becoming a celebrated film.
"twice. Let me tell you the second time it happened. One, you're making that and you go, "Okay, this is how it has to go." But then now you're invested in this person. You go, "Oh man, she has to die. ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez discusses the influence of Hong Kong cinema on his work, particularly how his film 'El Mariachi' was replicated in a Hong Kong film. He shares a humorous anecdote about watching the imitation and feeling a mix of pride and disappointment. This reflection underscores the global impact of storytelling and the interconnectedness of cinematic influences across cultures.
"isn't my movie. This Oh, the bad guy. Oh, there's a scene in my movie where the bad guy has two girls in bed with him and they figured that was a whore house, but it was just this apartment. So, they ..."
Rodriguez delves into the unpredictable nature of the creative process, likening it to a divine experience where creators may not fully grasp the implications of their work. He shares a memorable line from 'Spy Kids 2' that encapsulates this idea, pondering whether creators fear their own creations. This segment explores the relationship between creators and their characters, emphasizing the emotional investment that comes with storytelling.
"moment this thing and it's like cuz you feel like that way when you're when you're creating stuff like you're creating something and then now it's taking on a life on its own and like oh no now this c..."
Rodriguez praises Quentin Tarantino's unique creative energy and his ability to generate compelling narratives. He recounts their friendship and collaborative spirit, highlighting how Tarantino's boldness and innovative ideas have influenced his own filmmaking. This segment celebrates the importance of surrounding oneself with visionary peers to elevate one's craft.
"game because they're just swing way beyond you. Jim Cameron was like that. So, like when I first met him, I was trying to impress the hell out of him you know, because I was such a big fan. I was abou..."
In this segment, Rodriguez reflects on the unpredictable nature of filmmaking success, sharing anecdotes about Tarantino's 'Pulp Fiction' and the initial skepticism it faced. He draws parallels to George Lucas's experience with 'Star Wars,' emphasizing that groundbreaking work often defies expectations. This discussion highlights the challenges and surprises that come with creating art.
"They're like, "Ah, we're going to go make the next Polyshore movie instead." You know, like we don't understand this thing. And Mirramax got it and they had just been bought by Disney. So they produce..."
Rodriguez discusses the significance of proximity to creative influences, sharing how being around talented individuals like Jim Cameron has elevated his own work. He emphasizes that learning through observation can lead to unexpected breakthroughs in creativity. This segment underscores the value of collaboration and mentorship in the artistic process.
"He goes, "In fact, one of my friends Simmon and said,"I want to sit you down and tell you all the things that are wrong with your movie, but I'll wait till you get back from the Can Film Festival." An..."
Rodriguez shares his experience attending a painting workshop, illustrating how stepping outside one's comfort zone can lead to growth in creativity. He recounts the process of learning from a painter and how it influenced his approach to filmmaking. This segment highlights the importance of continuous learning and exploration in the creative journey.
"story of how important proximity is. So I'm I do this painting. It's like ah fucking looks garbage. I'll show you. It looks like garbage. I'm not used I can't do paintings that are just like See, you ..."
Rodriguez reflects on the excitement of creating characters in 'Desperado,' particularly the challenge of casting Latin actors in Hollywood. He shares his journey of discovering Antonio Banderas and the importance of representation in film. This segment emphasizes the role of character creation in storytelling and the impact of diverse voices in cinema.
"was I mean you've worked with him a lot and you've I mean he's one of those badass humans on the screen. You've created that. Can you just talk about what it's like creating those characters? What was..."
In this segment, Rodriguez elaborates on his casting choices for Desperado, particularly focusing on Salma Hayek. He shares the story of how he found her and the initial skepticism from studios about casting her, highlighting the importance of believing in one's vision and the impact of representation in film.
"Rodriguez show on Univision cuz he I was trying to practice my Spanish cuz I was having to do all these Spanish interviews cuz Mariachi was in Spanish. That was the only other part I didn't tell you. ..."
Rodriguez explains his resourceful approach to filmmaking, including how he shot scenes efficiently and creatively. He shares anecdotes about working with actors like Danny Trejo and the importance of being adaptable and innovative in the filmmaking process, especially when working with limited resources.
"Salma. She's her with her energy, with her passion and funny. She became instant friends with my wife. You know before they walked over, your wife and I are best friends. She already was like part of ..."
Rodriguez recounts the long journey of bringing the character Machete to life, from its inception during the filming of Desperado to the eventual creation of the Machete films. He discusses the cultural significance of the character and how audience demand played a crucial role in making the film a reality.
"chemistry. She just nails it. He's great. He loves her too. Studio's like "Okay, you can hire." Reluctantly like that, right? But once they saw the footage come as we were shooting and they saw it on ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez shares insights into his unique filmmaking process, including how he efficiently manages time and resources when working with actors. He emphasizes the importance of editing and how his hands-on approach allows him to maintain creative control and deliver compelling performances.
"ain't where's when's that movie coming out?" And we're like, "It's not a real movie, but it looks real. We want to see that movie." So we finally made the movie because people just asked for it. And I..."
Rodriguez draws an analogy between filmmaking and cooking, explaining how editing is crucial to the final product. He discusses the pitfalls of not being involved in the editing process and how understanding editing can set filmmakers apart in the industry, ensuring that their vision is accurately represented.
"room. Yeah, that's our scent. And it's real. You don't have to dress it. And it's just right there. All you do is put like a little tube there, you know, like a for his IV and then you have a couple o..."
Rodriguez introduces the 'DJ Method,' inspired by an actor's determination to finish a script in three days. He emphasizes the importance of seizing creative moments and the power of inspiration in filmmaking, encouraging others to push through self-doubt and take action.
"this before. Oh my god, I found that old video. It's like, oh my god, I already made a movie then in black and white. That's some weird shit, right? That's the magic of creativity. It's like sometimes..."
Rodriguez details the challenges of creating an action scene for 'From Dusk Till Dawn,' explaining how he had to think on his feet to execute a complex stunt in a limited timeframe. He illustrates the importance of having a clear vision and the ability to adapt quickly on set.
"on the day thinking on your feet. So I'm gonna show you this um this test. Okay. So, for Dust Dawn the TV series, I would always shoot the the first episode and the last episode of like a seven or eig..."
Rodriguez discusses the critical role of sound design in filmmaking, explaining how sound can enhance the audience's experience and perception of action. He shares insights on how he uses sound creatively to convey emotions and actions that may not be visually apparent.
"all the bullets and shoot the guy before I hit the ground. Mhm. Okay, that's kind of a real cool like desperado type thing, but dude, this is a 7-day shoot for these episodes. Everyone on the crew wil..."
Rodriguez elaborates on the meticulous process of crafting a shot for 'Sin City,' detailing how he coordinated stunts and camera work to achieve the desired effect. He emphasizes the need for precision and creativity in filmmaking, especially under tight deadlines.
"somebody with a vision to to do the whole thing. So, this is what it would look like if you were on the set. I'm going to show you the footage and I'm going to show you the the scene. I have to show i..."
Rodriguez explains his editing philosophy, focusing on how sound can manipulate audience perception. He shares techniques for creating tension and excitement through sound design, illustrating how sound can enhance visual storytelling.
"that's my camera. I'll operate that. What's on the B camera? Steady cam. Leave it on steady cam. No chance. No time to freaking convert it. At one point, I want to lower it. So, just flip it upside do..."
Rodriguez discusses the significance of sound in film, explaining how it can create a more immersive experience for the audience. He shares examples of how he uses sound creatively to enhance scenes and convey emotions, reinforcing the idea that sound is as crucial as visuals.
"going to do that with a lens that long? It's going to be all out of focus. It's not going to be slow motion enough. He even knows me and he's like "What the hell am I doing?" Say, "Just lay on the pad..."
Rodriguez reflects on the lessons learned from his filmmaking experiences, emphasizing the importance of understanding all aspects of production. He discusses how this knowledge allows filmmakers to make informed decisions and adapt to challenges on set.
"everything now. I got to cut it. I got to add the sound effects myself. I got to put the music in myself cuz music guys would just end up filling it with music and ruining it. Sound effects guys would..."
Rodriguez highlights the importance of craftsmanship in filmmaking, stressing that true directors must understand the technical aspects of their craft. He explains how this knowledge enables them to execute their vision effectively and make creative decisions that resonate with audiences.
"sound will play like there's multiple bullets flying. I don't need to see all those bullets or the eyes not going to know where to go. So then they got it right. Brilliant. And then check this out. I'..."
Rodriguez concludes by discussing the often-overlooked role of sound in visual storytelling. He emphasizes that sound can significantly impact how audiences perceive a film, reinforcing the idea that sound design is an essential component of effective filmmaking.
"And it's not like you have this whole plan figured out ahead. You're literally in the moment. You're it's coming through you. But you're seeing, right? I'm seeing it because I've done it enough. That'..."
Robert Rodriguez discusses the crucial role of sound in filmmaking, emphasizing how sound effects can enhance the emotional impact of a scene. He compares the process of editing sound to cooking, where adding the right elements can transform a mundane scene into something exciting. Rodriguez shares insights on how sound can often overshadow visuals, making it a vital component of storytelling.
"conveys the sound better, you know? I'll use different kinds of sounds that just have impact and put it somewhere like when he hits the ground or so I like playing with all that in post when I'm editi..."
Rodriguez explains how deadlines can drive creativity and productivity in filmmaking. He recounts his experience with the 'Spy Kids' franchise, highlighting how the pressure of deadlines pushed him to innovate and deliver films rapidly. He reflects on the challenges of working under tight schedules and how they can lead to unexpected creative breakthroughs.
"my studio. It does draw you in. It draws you in and it makes you go now think of ideas you never would have thought of before. Mainly because it has a filter. Well, now I I don't have to think of all ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez shares his collaboration with James Cameron on 'Alita: Battle Angel.' He discusses the complexities of merging live-action with CGI and the importance of capturing genuine performances from actors. Rodriguez highlights how Cameron's innovative approach influenced the filmmaking process and the technological advancements that made the film possible.
"up, what do you do? you you start you start to put the pen to the paper and it starts just flowing. You have no choice. You have to get out of the way and open the pipe and it just comes out and you'r..."
Rodriguez delves into the intricacies of performance capture technology used in 'Alita.' He explains how capturing the emotional depth of the actress, Rosa Salazar, was essential to bringing the character to life. This segment emphasizes the balance between technology and genuine human emotion in creating compelling cinematic experiences.
"actor, put them into this with the power of technology into the real world. So convey all the emotion, the richness of the human face. Can you just speak to the process of bringing that world to life?..."
Rodriguez discusses the importance of building real sets for 'Alita' to enhance the actors' performances. He contrasts this with fully CGI environments, explaining how tangible surroundings can ground performances in reality. This segment highlights the challenges and rewards of creating immersive worlds in filmmaking.
"photorealistic. And he goes, "Curious to see how photoreal it'll be when we're finally done with this process cuz you don't get to see it till it's almost done." And I was like, "Wow, he's just shooti..."
In this segment, Rodriguez reflects on the creative genius of James Cameron. He discusses Cameron's technical prowess and storytelling ability, emphasizing how these qualities set him apart in the film industry. Rodriguez shares anecdotes about their collaboration and the high standards that Cameron sets for his projects.
"let's shoot mostly live action and we'll just replace her. But we still have to figure her out. You have to cast the right actress. And when I saw Rose Salazar, she was just amazing. She made me cry a..."
Rodriguez concludes by discussing the importance of blending creativity with technical skills in filmmaking. He shares his journey of learning both aspects to become a versatile filmmaker. This segment serves as a motivational insight into how aspiring filmmakers can develop their craft by embracing both creativity and technical knowledge.
"masters are all on the set, Marshall Ali, you know, you've got an amazing cast of people and that's really the the heart of it so that the technology kind of goes away. How hard is it to get the actor..."
Robert Rodriguez discusses the importance of combining technical skills with creativity in filmmaking. He highlights how great filmmakers like Jim Cameron and George Lucas excel by mastering both aspects, allowing them to craft compelling stories. Rodriguez emphasizes that understanding the technical side frees creatives to explore their artistic visions without limitations.
"so little. Like, I'm literally calling the guy on the phone. How do I use this camera? You know, that's how little I knew about it. But I knew by doing the job I would learn by being both. That's real..."
Rodriguez shares his groundbreaking experience of editing 'Desperado' digitally from his home in 1994, a rarity at the time. He recounts the challenges he faced with studio expectations and how his unique editing style, which involved shooting short shots, ultimately proved his capability to the studio executives. This segment illustrates the evolution of editing in filmmaking and Rodriguez's innovative approach.
"interesting in that he's so prolific. I walked into his writing studio and it'd be like on a one of the tables like you have those papers there. Imagine them that thick, that thick that thick. All scr..."
In this segment, Rodriguez reflects on the confidence required in filmmaking, drawing parallels with Jim Cameron's engineering mindset. He discusses how Cameron's meticulous approach to both filmmaking and engineering allows him to push boundaries. Rodriguez also shares anecdotes about their collaborative dynamic, showcasing the blend of creativity and analytical thinking that drives successful filmmaking.
"only movie on the Sony lot being edited digitally. Mhm. Not only was I editing on a computer, I was editing in my house, which in 1994 was just unheard of. So, I'm there in my house and they made me c..."
Rodriguez talks about the limitations of editing software and how every system has its challenges. He emphasizes the importance of adapting to these limitations to enhance creativity. By sharing his experiences with older equipment, he encourages aspiring filmmakers to leverage the tools they have, regardless of their sophistication, to create impactful stories.
"in its early stages and I think Soderberg looked at it and it said "Yeah, I can't afford an avid for this movie. I'm going to go do it." I think he started cutting on Premiere. But um I'm sure it's al..."
Rodriguez reveals his ongoing discussions with Jim Cameron about a potential sequel to 'Alita: Battle Angel.' He expresses excitement about the project and the desire to explore the trilogy concept. This segment highlights the challenges of studio dynamics and the hope for future collaborations in the evolving landscape of filmmaking.
"where it was like, okay, let me splice these two sound things together and it was so hard to get it to do, but people would be like, you got that movie out of that equipment. Where now it's the other ..."
In this segment, Rodriguez shares his creative process behind 'Sin City,' emphasizing the influence of Frank Miller's comic style. He discusses the innovative use of green screen technology to bring the graphic novel to life, showcasing how he adapted his filmmaking techniques to create a visually stunning world. This segment captures the essence of Rodriguez's artistic vision and his ability to merge different mediums.
"you do soon. It's uh but it is I mean you do so many different kinds of movies. That's a whole different kind of puzzle, right? Yeah. No, but it's not a bad one. It's a good one. It's a cool It's one ..."
Robert Rodriguez recounts the pivotal moment when he approached Frank Miller to adapt his comic 'Sin City' into a film. He emphasizes the importance of trust and creative freedom, explaining how he proposed to take all the risks and create a test scene to showcase his vision, ultimately leading to the film's production.
"this bar." Okay. Book a flight for New York. I didn't have a I fly up there. I have my laptop just like this. Yeah. I go to the bar. I show him what looks like an image from his comic and it starts mo..."
Rodriguez discusses his innovative approach to filmmaking, particularly how he utilized digital technology to create a unique visual style for 'Sin City.' He highlights the challenges of capturing the comic's essence and how he experimented with lighting and effects to achieve the desired look, showcasing his creative problem-solving skills.
"him to do. It's all on me. I write the script in December, January. Josh Arnett, Marley Shelton come down, fly Frank in shooting for 10 hours on my green screen. We shoot that opening sequence. Incred..."
In this segment, Rodriguez explains the significance of lighting in filmmaking and how it contributes to storytelling. He shares insights on how the absence of light can create powerful visuals and emotional depth, drawing parallels between his artistic choices and the comic book style of 'Sin City.'
"feel like directing any any of these short ones?" I thought about directing The Big Fat Kill maybe as a short film. You should come direct that one. Shit you should direct all of them with me because ..."
Rodriguez reflects on the concept of manifesting one's identity as a creative person. He shares personal anecdotes about overcoming self-doubt and embracing his identity as an artist, emphasizing the importance of believing in oneself to unlock creative potential and achieve artistic goals.
"hilarious. Is that great? Yeah. Like sometimes we'd be shooting with the kids and then the afternoon Regar would come and some of the Sin City girls to finish you know shooting stuff that we needed to..."
In this concluding segment, Rodriguez discusses the journey of being an artist and the challenges that come with it. He encourages aspiring creatives to embrace their identity and pursue their passions, reinforcing the idea that creativity is a journey filled with growth, experimentation, and self-discovery.
"mean to to light like you have to have that light out of frame right now. But I could bring the lights in right here as long as it was they're not crossing it. I'm just going to take it out of the gre..."
Robert Rodriguez shares a powerful lesson on identity transformation, illustrating how changing one's self-perception can lead to significant life changes. He recounts his journey from hating workouts to embracing the identity of an athlete, emphasizing that adopting a new label can inspire action and creativity. This segment highlights the importance of self-identity in achieving personal goals.
"know like just that that lesson I had forgotten. You have to say, "I'm a non-smoker." I'm a non-smoker. So, what does a non-smoker do? If you believe you're a non-smoker, you hate smoke. Start choking..."
In this segment, Rodriguez discusses the concept of manifestation and how visualizing a desired future can create pathways to achieving it. He emphasizes the need for conviction in one's identity and the impact it has on actions and outcomes. By labeling oneself as a creative person, individuals can unlock their potential and engage in more creative endeavors.
"It doesn't make sense to me how manifesting works, but it does seem to work. Like basically visualizing visualizing a path towards a certain kind of future. It I guess everything around you, everythin..."
Rodriguez reflects on the challenges of performing live and the common fears associated with it. He encourages embracing the process and trusting one's ability to figure things out, even in the face of potential failure. This segment underscores the importance of confidence and resilience in creative pursuits, particularly in live performances.
"you're not like terrified cuz you're playing pretty complicated things. I've seen you play live. Yeah. And I mess up a bunch of times, but you don't want to focus on that. You just go like, "Okay I go..."
In this candid discussion, Rodriguez explores the chaotic nature of life and creativity. He shares anecdotes about the unpredictability of performances and the lessons learned from failures. This segment highlights the beauty of imperfection in the creative process and the importance of embracing the messiness of human existence.
"if you say no, I don't have any doubt cuz I know I'm going to figure it out when I get there somehow. It'll fall in my lap. I trust the process. You don't have to you don't have to know. So if you tru..."
Rodriguez emphasizes the significance of journaling as a tool for reflection and memory preservation. He discusses how documenting experiences can reveal patterns and insights over time, making life feel richer and more meaningful. This segment advocates for the practice of journaling to enhance self-awareness and capture life's fleeting moments.
"talked about the importance of journaling because living is living. I love that phrase. I came up with that cuz it's like, "Wow, I see so many people who get after you for like filming a concert and t..."
In this segment, Rodriguez shares a touching story about creating a video montage for his mother's birthday, illustrating the power of visual memories. He reflects on how revisiting old footage can evoke emotions and strengthen family bonds. This highlights the importance of capturing moments to relive and cherish them in the future.
"just went by. It went by. Like I'll ask people like, "We just had a really, what did we do last week? What did we do last Wednesday?" And they're like "I can tell you because I wrote it down but I got..."
Rodriguez contemplates the fleeting nature of time and the memories we create. He discusses the importance of recording experiences to preserve them for future reflection. This segment delves into the emotional aspects of memory and the significance of cherishing every moment as life progresses.
"chair episode. I look up Michael Man. Michael man all the conversations we had since 94 that I wrote down that I felt and it's like oh my god I can't believe we said that. That's how I knew about that..."
In a thought-provoking discussion, Rodriguez theorizes about consciousness after death and the nature of dreams. He suggests that memories may fade like dreams if not recorded, prompting a deeper reflection on the meaning of life and the importance of documenting our journeys. This segment invites listeners to consider the continuity of existence and the legacy we leave behind.
"minds yeah what was that and they tell me and I'm like I never told you that they said, "Yeah, you told us. Well, I told you maybe 10% of that. All the rest you added." Oh, yeah. Well, we embellished ..."
Rodriguez shares the idea of recording messages to one's future self, reflecting on how life changes over time. He discusses the value of capturing aspirations and dreams to revisit later, emphasizing the non-linear nature of life. This segment encourages listeners to engage in self-reflection and consider their growth over the years.
"have a picture. Swear you're not going to know what it's from. Even 10 years from now, you won't know what that picture's from. You read the diary, you go, "Oh, that's what that is. Oh my god you can ..."
In this introspective conclusion, Rodriguez and his children discuss the meaning of life and the journey of existence. They explore philosophical questions about purpose and the experiences that shape us. This segment encapsulates the essence of the podcast, inviting listeners to reflect on their own lives and the significance of their experiences.
"time flies and like you get to a point where it's like, holy shit, it has been 10 years, has been 20 years. You had to listen to a younger version of yourself. like you it would have been hilarious if..."
Robert Rodriguez reflects on the finite nature of life and memories, likening them to dreams that fade away if not captured immediately. He explores the idea of consciousness after death and how past lives might be distant memories, emphasizing the importance of cherishing the present and recording experiences.
"moment is because you see the fragility of it too, you know. Does it make you sad? Does it break your heart that you know the number of memories we get to create is finite? That this life ends. Eventu..."
Rodriguez discusses the unique souls of his children, emphasizing that each child is a distinct individual with their own path. He shares insights from a recent conversation with his kids about astrology, highlighting the importance of recognizing and nurturing their true identities and creative potentials.
"they when I tell people they flip out when I tell them that? Yeah. Like I said, I want a character to be like that. Like he's dying. He's like, I don't want to forget this dream. I don't want to forge..."
In this segment, Rodriguez encourages listeners to embrace their true selves and declare their identities. He shares a personal story about a teacher's encouragement that shaped his path, emphasizing the power of self-affirmation and the importance of pursuing one's creative passions without doubt.
"to be. They don't have to have any doubt anymore. They don't have to wonder well, am I supposed to be more business-minded or can I be creative? Isn't that some kind of frivolous? Is that a real job? ..."
Rodriguez reflects on the challenges faced by creators and the importance of resilience in the face of criticism. He shares his experiences with success and the jealousy it can provoke, ultimately inspiring others to embrace their creative journeys and contribute positively to the world.
"back to your life at your really critical moments in your life where you went that way instead of that way, there was probably somebody there who said something to you that kind of pushed you. I there..."
As the conversation wraps up, Rodriguez shares a profound quote from Alfred Hitchcock about the role of directors in film. This segment encapsulates the essence of filmmaking and the creative process, leaving listeners with a thought-provoking perspective on the art of storytelling.
"you're doing in the world, for creating in the world, and for inspiring millions of people to also be creators in the world, and for your new project that's bringing people in. Robert, I'm as I told y..."