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Jessie J: I Quit Music, Deleted An Album, Then Changed My Mind | E139

Jessie J: I Quit Music, Deleted An Album, Then Changed My Mind | E139

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This episode is part of our USA series, over the coming weeks you will get to see some incredible conversations with guests the likes of which we’ve never seen before. Bringing more value, more incredible stories, and more world-beating expertise. Jessie J is a singer and songwriter who has been singing professionally since she was 11 years old. In 2010 she shot to fame with the release of her first single, Do It Like A Dude. She has since sold millions of records, performed at the closing ceremony of the London Olympics, and been a judge on the talent shows The Voice and The Voice Kids. 00:00 Intro 01:36 My childhood and health problems 11:18 Growth in moments of sadness and pain 19:21 Finding out about your fertility problems 27:42 What would you say to your old self? 31:32 Not knowing who I was 34:24 Were record labels defining who you were? 38:25 Finding the right team for you 49:23 Why did you disappear? 57:11 How did the pandemic impact you? 01:00:16 Jamal Edwards' passing 01:07:56 Your miscarriage 01:20:38 Your bodyguard's passing 01:31:48 Do you let people in? 01:34:58 Love and relationships 01:42:44 What’s your next chapter? 01:44:35 Our last guest's question Jessie: https://twitter.com/jessiej https://www.instagram.com/jessiej Our Clips channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnjg... Listen on: Apple podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-diary-of-a-ceo-by-steven-bartlett/id1291423644 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7iQXmUT7XGuZSzAMjoNWlX FOLLOW ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steven/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SteveBartlettSC Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bartlett-56986834/ Sponsors: Huel - https://my.huel.com/Steven Myenergi - https://bit.ly/3oeWGnl Location courtesy of The Nightfall Group: www.nightfallgroup.com

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0:00 - 0:11
0:11 duration61 words

The Weight of Loneliness

Jessie J reflects on the loneliness that accompanied her rise to fame, feeling as though she had everything she ever wanted but still faced profound isolation. This segment captures the emotional turmoil of navigating fame and personal loss.

"could you do me a quick favor if you're listening to this please hit the follow or subscribe button it helps more than you know and we invite subscribers in every month to watch the show in person i f..."

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1:36 - 2:36
0:59 duration203 words

Childhood Memories and Family Influence

Jessie shares her childhood experiences, emphasizing the importance of family and the energy they created despite financial struggles. She recounts playful moments with her father and how these experiences shaped her resilience and outlook on life.

"i tend to believe that people's family are their foundation and when i was reading through the story of your family in your early years actually seemed pretty idyllic yeah i mean we weren't my mum and..."

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2:36 - 3:36
1:00 duration158 words

The Impact of Health Challenges

In this segment, Jessie discusses her frequent hospital visits as a child due to a heart condition. She reflects on how her parents' approach to her health helped her maintain a positive self-image and not define herself by her illness.

"childhood like more so than anything else like it's weird like i was in hospital a lot of my childhood and i never ever thought i was sick because my mom and dad never treated me as if i was like they..."

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3:36 - 4:40
1:03 duration172 words

Emotional Resilience Through Humor

Jessie talks about her father's emotional intelligence and humor, which influenced her ability to cope with sadness. She explains how laughter and humor can coexist with deep emotions, creating a safe space for vulnerability.

"of men you know and we grew up talking and i spent a lot of time with my dad when i was young and he used humor in his job and with us as me and my two sisters and his relationship with my mom she mad..."

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4:40 - 5:36
0:55 duration176 words

Empathy and Understanding Pain

Jessie describes her empathetic nature, feeling compassion even for those who hurt her. She reflects on her experiences in the hospital and how witnessing others' struggles shaped her understanding of pain and connection.

"my dad is incredible at kind of balancing you're good at that too because which is where i get it from some of your hardest moments in your yeah i make a joke but i use it in a way to allow people to ..."

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5:36 - 6:36
1:00 duration202 words

A Life-Changing Hospital Experience

Jessie recounts a poignant memory from her childhood in the hospital, where she witnessed a boy praying for his life. This experience deeply affected her and inspired her first song, highlighting the fragility of life.

"there's that thing that you have where if you're really in that moment it's such a release you said you spent a lot of your time as a kid in hospital yeah what was the the first time you went to hospi..."

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6:36 - 7:36
0:59 duration189 words

Navigating Health Issues and Identity

In this segment, Jessie discusses her ongoing health challenges, including a stroke at 17. She emphasizes the importance of not letting these experiences define her identity and how they have shaped her resilience.

"um which would cause me to have like seizures and pass out um and have like it was just awful um so i was in and out of hospital a lot as a child it was weird like i remember being let out for the day..."

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7:36 - 8:36
1:00 duration215 words

Finding Strength in Adversity

Jessie reflects on how her health issues have taught her to appreciate life and find strength in adversity. She shares her belief that these challenges have ultimately led to moments of joy and success.

"you define yourself as an empath you said it when you came yeah for sure and even people that hurt me i feel bad for the people that hurt me because i look at why they've hurt me as opposed to the way..."

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8:36 - 9:36
1:00 duration200 words

The Role of Health in Career

Jessie discusses how her health has influenced her career trajectory, including setbacks that have occurred just as she was about to achieve significant milestones. She expresses gratitude for these experiences and their role in her personal growth.

"and i woke up and i remember just sitting and watching him for hours and just listening to him and then the next morning i remember seeing his mum come in and just taking all the balloons and i said t..."

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9:36 - 10:36
1:00 duration207 words

The Journey of Self-Discovery

In this segment, Jessie shares her journey of self-discovery through her health struggles and career challenges. She emphasizes the importance of listening to her body and the lessons learned from her experiences.

"more health stuff and experiences um but that was the most human thing i'd ever seen even though i wasn't conscious of the fact that it was how long did that last that the health issues in your sort o..."

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10:36 - 11:36
1:00 duration220 words

The Power of Music and Personal Experience

Jessie reflects on how her life experiences fuel her music. She discusses the connection between her personal pain and her artistic expression, highlighting the significance of authenticity in her work.

"i'd cut my hair and i was a veto sassoon model and i was like you know i'm starting to feel like i can fit in and i'm not the sick kid that can sing you know and then i had a stroke when i was 17. and..."

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11:36 - 12:36
1:00 duration167 words

Embracing Vulnerability in Performance

Jessie discusses the importance of embracing vulnerability in her performances. She shares how her personal experiences, including loss and heartache, inform her music and connect her with her audience.

"because like i'm grateful it happened because if those things hadn't happened in my life you know the many years the the uterus issues i've had the fertility thing the miscarriage like you grow in mom..."

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12:36 - 13:36
1:00 duration219 words

The Intersection of Pain and Purpose

In this segment, Jessie reflects on the intersection of her pain and purpose. She shares a transformative moment after a miscarriage, realizing that her experiences are meant to help others through their struggles.

"health has just always had my back when my life has gone like this it's always kind of going to take a second and for a long time i felt like i was cast with this spell that like every time i kind of ..."

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13:36 - 14:36
1:00 duration198 words

A Message of Hope and Healing

Jessie concludes with a message of hope, emphasizing the importance of sharing her story to inspire others. She acknowledges the challenges she has faced and the strength she has gained through her journey.

"what am i not listening to like so i feel like that's my personal way of looking at it in my journey so like when you say you know how long was that for it's kind of been my whole life you know even u..."

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15:00 - 16:30
1:30 duration281 words

Finding Purpose in Pain

In this segment, Jessie discusses the profound impact of her experiences with loss and grief. She reveals how her struggles have shaped her purpose, allowing her to connect with others facing similar challenges. Jessie emphasizes the importance of sharing her story to help others heal, showcasing her resilience and empathy.

"would see these things happen but i was on the street crying uncontrollably i felt like i'd my body had gone numb like i was just on the street and i i was standing there and i couldn't move i literal..."

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16:30 - 18:00
1:30 duration278 words

Surrendering to Grief

Jessie J opens up about the process of surrendering to her grief after her miscarriage. She reflects on the societal pressure to maintain a positive outlook and the importance of allowing oneself to feel pain. This segment captures her journey towards healing and the realization that embracing sadness can lead to personal growth.

"helped me but helped other people and i know that like going back to what you asked me before like i know that's so much of my purpose as much as hard as it can be in moments i get so much peace from ..."

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18:00 - 19:30
1:30 duration245 words

The Weight of Expectations

In this segment, Jessie discusses the heavy burden of being an inspiration to others while dealing with her own pain. She reflects on the conflict between her public persona and her private struggles, emphasizing the need for authenticity in her life and work. Jessie shares her journey of self-acceptance amidst external pressures.

"miscarriage like in the sense of the reaction of of going i must the show must go on i must i after that show i surrendered to my pain and for nobody else but myself and that's something that i've i d..."

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19:30 - 21:00
1:30 duration278 words

Facing Health Challenges

Jessie J recounts her health struggles, including her diagnosis of endometriosis and adenomyosis. She shares the pivotal moment when she chose to manage her pain without undergoing a hysterectomy, highlighting her journey towards a plant-based lifestyle. This segment emphasizes her resilience and determination to take control of her health.

"busy time for me it was right before bang bang and i was doing all these different shows and i basically would have this extreme pain like agonizing pain i would pass out it was awful and they were li..."

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21:00 - 22:30
1:30 duration308 words

Navigating Fame and Anxiety

In this segment, Jessie reflects on the challenges of fame and the anxiety it brought into her life. She describes feeling trapped and constantly scrutinized, struggling to maintain her sense of self amidst public perception. Jessie shares her experiences of isolation and the pressure to conform to others' expectations.

"look up and manage my pain and that's when i went plant-based that was you know years and years and years ago and it definitely helped and improved and i changed my lifestyle and kind of slowed my pac..."

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22:30 - 24:00
1:30 duration260 words

The Burden of Public Perception

Jessie J discusses the impact of media scrutiny on her mental health. She shares how public comments affected her self-image and led her to question her identity. This segment highlights the challenges of living in the spotlight and the importance of self-acceptance in the face of external judgment.

"people eat or like staring at someone in the car next to you and knowing they're not going to look over and be like you know and so i remember coming here and just having that and then i didn't have t..."

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24:00 - 25:30
1:30 duration248 words

Relearning Life in the Spotlight

In this segment, Jessie reflects on the difficulty of navigating everyday life as a public figure. She shares her struggles with anxiety and the feeling of being constantly watched. Jessie emphasizes the need to relearn how to live authentically while managing the pressures of fame.

"and you know like as when you first get somebody commentating on everything you do in r i was just like how do i how do i live unconsciously now like how do i go to the beach without feeling like i'm ..."

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25:30 - 27:00
1:30 duration257 words

Embracing Vulnerability

Jessie J discusses the importance of vulnerability in her life and career. She reflects on her journey of self-discovery and the challenges of being perceived as a 'diva' by the media. This segment captures her desire to be authentic and the struggle to balance her public persona with her true self.

"but there are parts of it that are so toxic and unhealthy and so inhumane and no one has a lot of space to be um like to have any empathy for that and that and i'm not talking about all the time and j..."

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27:00 - 28:30
1:30 duration260 words

Advice to My Younger Self

In this poignant segment, Jessie shares advice she would give to her younger self during her struggles with fame and identity. She emphasizes the importance of perspective and the need to communicate openly with loved ones. Jessie reflects on the challenges of navigating fame and the importance of self-care.

"that was like here let me just be what they say i am because that's what people think i am anyway and even when i am nice like someone i remember going into a room and being like hi everyone and no on..."

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30:03 - 32:14
2:11 duration434 words

The Pressure of Public Perception

In this segment, Jessie discusses the overwhelming pressure of public perception and how it affected her identity. She shares her experiences of feeling lost and not knowing how to separate her public persona from her true self. Jessie emphasizes the importance of understanding one's identity beyond the spotlight and the struggles of maintaining authenticity.

"that's the worst i don't want to see it i don't want don't send me a link of me on the beach because i was there my friends and my family sending me links of people criticizing me have you seen this [..."

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32:14 - 34:24
2:09 duration421 words

Finding My True Self

Jessie J opens up about her journey to discover her true self outside of her career. She reflects on how her environment shaped her identity and the challenges she faced in understanding her personal preferences and desires. This segment captures her realization of the need to take a step back from the fast-paced music industry to reconnect with herself.

"a product of your environment you are a product of your environment and i see that in my my niece and my nephews you know like and all the young people i know and i watch my best friends and my close ..."

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34:24 - 36:01
1:36 duration306 words

The Role of Record Labels

In this segment, Jessie discusses her relationship with record labels and how they influenced her career. She shares her experiences with her last album, 'Rose,' and the support she received from her label despite its lack of commercial success. Jessie emphasizes the importance of authenticity in her music and the ongoing search for a supportive internal team.

"in that time you've got record labels telling you presumably who you are who they want you to be not even you know what it's one thing i will say about my record label you know for as much as we you k..."

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36:01 - 38:10
2:08 duration399 words

Seeking the Right Team

Jessie J talks about her struggles to find the right team to support her career. She reflects on her recent decision to part ways with her manager and the challenges of identifying what she truly needs in a team. This segment highlights her desire for a collaborative environment that fosters creativity and passion.

"with them for almost 15 years what i've struggled to find is an internal team like people that are immediately around me like an assistant a manager that kind of manager yeah managers assistant no the..."

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38:10 - 40:03
1:53 duration311 words

The Importance of Authenticity

In this segment, Jessie emphasizes the significance of being true to oneself in the music industry. She discusses her desire to create music that resonates with a diverse audience and reflects her authentic self. Jessie shares her experiences of feeling pressured to conform and the importance of following her instincts.

"the surface and i know in my heart in my instinct i don't just trust my instinct i act on it and it was a big brave thing for me to do just to go guys i love you but i know this ain't right i'm moving..."

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40:03 - 42:02
1:59 duration357 words

Embracing Vulnerability

Jessie J concludes with a powerful message about embracing vulnerability and the fear of failure. She reflects on her journey of self-discovery and the importance of being true to oneself, even in the face of criticism. This segment encapsulates her belief that authenticity is more valuable than success based on others' expectations.

"it you know and i and and i just want a team of people that represent me even when i'm not in the room you know have you seen what you're looking for elsewhere i don't even know i don't even i don't k..."

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41:49 - 43:05
1:16 duration253 words

The Struggle of Authenticity

Jessie J discusses the challenges of staying true to herself in the music industry. She reflects on the pressure to conform to others' expectations and the importance of having a team that represents her diverse background. Jessie emphasizes the need for music that makes everyone feel accepted and understood, highlighting her desire for authenticity in her work.

"projection of their own fear that they can't deliver for you i guess you'd also rather fail at being yourself than succeed at being someone else as well right and i've succeeded at being someone else ..."

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43:05 - 44:49
1:44 duration363 words

Obsessed with Craft

In this segment, Jessie J shares her obsession with music and the struggles she faces when others don't meet her standards. She draws parallels between her experiences as an artist and the challenges faced by founders in business, emphasizing the importance of passion and dedication in creative endeavors.

"to do a better job at making those decisions one of the reasons i ask is if you've seen it somewhere else because it's because when you're a obsessed person you're obsessed about your craft um i think..."

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44:49 - 46:40
1:50 duration327 words

The Weight of Comparison

Jessie J opens up about her insecurities and how she navigates the pressures of comparison in the music industry. Rather than envying other artists, she expresses a desire to be more confident and sociable. This segment highlights her journey of self-discovery and the realization that everyone has different definitions of success.

"i just i just want to sing and like really be in the mix and work hard like the fire in my belly now is like what do you mean by being relaxed it's weird when you've had success like people always say..."

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46:40 - 48:07
1:27 duration260 words

Finding My Voice Again

After a period of feeling lost, Jessie J recounts how she rediscovered her passion for music. She shares the story of writing her first single after a long hiatus and the emotional journey that led her back to songwriting. This segment emphasizes the importance of embracing both joy and pain in her creative process.

"gown i'm in what am i doing here like i have those moments all the time and the perception and reality is such a weird like experience to have of what you think people think of you and then what they ..."

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48:07 - 49:21
1:14 duration213 words

The Reality of Performance

Jessie J reflects on the pressures of performing and the expectations that come with her success. She candidly discusses her experiences on stage, including moments of vulnerability and the need for support from her team. This segment captures the dichotomy between public perception and personal reality.

"head i think that i can give off that i am i'm grateful that i can sing and i'm grateful that i'm love to sing live like i love that i've never mind and i just that's not who i am i love that like i e..."

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49:21 - 50:56
1:34 duration335 words

The Break from Music

In this segment, Jessie J reveals the emotional exhaustion that led her to step away from music. She discusses the impact of personal losses and the pressure to produce new work. This candid reflection highlights the importance of mental health and the need for artists to take breaks to recharge.

"a more of an enjoyable experience those four years that you referenced that you i don't know how to discredit disappeared what was going on when you disappeared oh my god what was going on i did the v..."

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50:56 - 52:34
1:38 duration343 words

Reconnecting with Creativity

Jessie J shares her journey of reconnecting with her creativity after a hiatus. She describes how a chance encounter in the studio reignited her passion for songwriting, leading to the creation of new music. This segment emphasizes the transformative power of art and the importance of embracing one's true self.

"where heel fits in my life thank you hill for making a product that i actually like the salted caramel is my favorite i've got the banana one here which is the one my girlfriend likes but for me salte..."

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52:34 - 54:55
2:21 duration508 words

Navigating Industry Expectations

Jessie J discusses the pressures of meeting industry expectations and the importance of staying true to her artistic vision. She reflects on her past successes and the challenges of balancing commercial demands with personal authenticity. This segment highlights the complexities of being an artist in a competitive landscape.

"problem just you know just very much he understood the industry and would always kind of give me advice and just not being able to grieve and like all of those things and was just going to go and i ne..."

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54:55 - 56:59
2:03 duration398 words

The Importance of Team Dynamics

In this segment, Jessie J emphasizes the significance of having a supportive team that understands her value. She shares her experiences with management and the need for mutual respect in professional relationships. This discussion sheds light on the dynamics of collaboration in the music industry.

"don't know who you think you are but you can't stop writing songs like this is what you do and i think i'd realized that really up until that point a lot of my successful music had been this kind of l..."

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57:00 - 58:07
1:06 duration183 words

Pandemic Reflections

In this segment, Jessie J shares her thoughts on the pandemic, describing it as both the worst and most beautiful experience. She emphasizes the necessity of stopping and reflecting inwardly during this time, leading to personal growth and a reevaluation of her priorities. Jessie discusses how the chaos of the pandemic allowed her to let go of unnecessary burdens and focus on what truly matters.

"not doing much you know i'd rather be by myself for a second and it'd be a bit chaotic and me learn and like go right what do i need what do i want what do i need what do i want that's one of the uh t..."

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58:07 - 1:01:14
3:07 duration504 words

Navigating Grief

Jessie J opens up about her grief following multiple losses, including a miscarriage and the passing of her friend Jamal Edwards. She discusses how these experiences have shaped her perspective on life and her music. This segment delves into the emotional weight of grief and the realization that life is too short to remain in unfulfilling situations, inspiring her to demand more from herself and her career.

"if i was a fly on the wall in your wherever you were living during the pandemic what would i have observed i mellowed a lot in the in the pandemic i let go of a lot of things that i held on to as like..."

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1:01:14 - 1:04:54
3:40 duration490 words

Jamal Edwards' Legacy

In a heartfelt tribute, Jessie J reflects on the impact of Jamal Edwards' life and legacy. She shares personal anecdotes about their friendship and how his passing has motivated her to pursue her dreams with renewed strength. This segment captures the essence of Jamal's influence on her life and the music industry, emphasizing the importance of connection and support in navigating personal challenges.

"have a handful of people that you realize that no one else that you have in your life give you that gives you what they gave you and you realize that you have to find that for yourself like that's the..."

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1:04:54 - 1:07:49
2:55 duration391 words

Life Lessons from Loss

Jessie J discusses the profound life lessons learned from losing loved ones, particularly the importance of being true to oneself and surrounding oneself with supportive people. She reflects on how grief has reshaped her priorities and her approach to music, urging listeners to recognize their worth and seek fulfillment in their lives. This segment emphasizes the transformative power of grief and the necessity of vulnerability.

"didn't know him because his legacy that's been a word that's been used a lot with him it's funny because the biggest legacy that i think he however many businesses he started and things he invested in..."

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1:07:49 - 1:09:00
1:10 duration220 words

The Complexity of Sharing Grief

In this segment, Jessie J talks about her experience with miscarriage and the complexities of sharing such personal pain publicly. She reflects on her decision to archive a post about her loss, illustrating the struggle between vulnerability and the desire for privacy. This discussion highlights the challenges many face in expressing grief while navigating public life.

"to feel like you know i love to work hard but i also like people around me to have a life i was when you you know when i was re-reading through the the process you went through with um with your misca..."

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1:09:00 - 1:12:49
3:49 duration760 words

The Journey of Motherhood

Jessie J shares her journey towards motherhood, discussing the emotional turmoil of her pregnancy experience and the challenges she faced. She reflects on the spiritual aspects of her journey and the overwhelming feelings that accompany the prospect of bringing new life into the world. This segment captures the essence of hope, fear, and the desire for connection in the face of uncertainty.

"especially the the attempt in a family to try and create life and struggling and yeah you know so seeing that so closely and the experience you shared and the way you shared it and even listening to y..."

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1:13:18 - 1:14:43
1:24 duration263 words

The Show Must Go On

Jessie discusses the immediate aftermath of her miscarriage and the pressure to perform at her scheduled show. She reflects on how she prioritized her career over her emotional well-being, revealing the complexities of coping with grief while maintaining a public persona.

"she's like yeah it's still there and that's when i went onto the street and i cried and the man came up to me and said you know if this is happening because you're supposed to talk about this you're s..."

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1:14:43 - 1:16:10
1:27 duration238 words

Loneliness in Grief

In this heartfelt segment, Jessie describes the profound loneliness she felt after her miscarriage. She emphasizes the emotional weight of grieving a future that will never be, and how this experience has deepened her empathy for others who have faced similar losses.

"tomorrow's show more than what is happening like i'm now so if you can hear my stomach i'm really hungry um it's like i need this no um i am i remember just going home and kind of not processing it an..."

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1:16:10 - 1:17:40
1:30 duration272 words

Finding Silver Linings

Jessie reflects on the bittersweet nature of her experience with pregnancy and loss. She expresses gratitude for the moments she had and the lessons learned, emphasizing the importance of self-love and the hope of not facing future challenges alone.

"you almost don't want to talk about it because you need people to just to see it to know but it's such a it's such a it's such a trip you know and obviously everyone's experience is different because ..."

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1:17:40 - 1:19:29
1:48 duration266 words

The Journey of Healing

In this segment, Jessie discusses the ongoing process of healing after her miscarriage. She shares her insights on grief, the importance of community, and the realization that she doesn't have to navigate her journey alone, highlighting the need for connection and support.

"sing to it every night and you know and so when i got home that night and i laid there i've never felt so lonely in my life and the empath in me was like how so many people experience this like it's j..."

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1:19:29 - 1:21:54
2:25 duration438 words

Lessons from Loss

Jessie opens up about the impact of losing loved ones, including her security guard, Dave. She reflects on the unique bond they shared and the lessons learned from grief, emphasizing the importance of expressing emotions and the need for men to talk about their feelings.

"um it's almost a bit like you know when you're really it's this really stupid metaphor but when you're really excited for a holiday and then it gets cancelled and you kind of go yeah it's okay i don't..."

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1:21:54 - 1:24:02
2:07 duration386 words

Cherishing Connections

In this emotional conclusion, Jessie discusses the deep connections formed through shared experiences of grief. She highlights the significance of those relationships and the memories created, illustrating how loss can lead to a greater appreciation for the people in our lives.

"it's interesting because up until dave passed passing i've lost people that i know of you know but like real close people like he was one of the first and the hardest part about for me like losing som..."

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1:24:53 - 1:26:02
1:08 duration203 words

The Push and Pull of Home and Tour Life

Jessie J reflects on the conflicting feelings of wanting to be on tour while craving the stillness of home. She discusses the emotional dynamics of her relationships, emphasizing the importance of men expressing their feelings and maintaining their own lives outside of romantic partnerships.

"home and when you're at home you want to be on tour and there's this like push and pull of like where do i belong like i want to keep moving but i crave stillness but when i'm at home it's too still w..."

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1:26:02 - 1:27:43
1:41 duration209 words

The Importance of Male Vulnerability

In this segment, Jessie J highlights the necessity for men to communicate their emotions. She shares her experiences with relationships and how societal expectations often prevent men from being open about their feelings, using her late friend Dave as an example of someone who broke these stereotypes.

"women have grown up with blogs and magazines and books and this that and the other and that's one of the things i loved about you and this is why i said yes to talking to you because men don't talk en..."

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1:27:43 - 1:29:39
1:55 duration318 words

Grief and the Gifts of Friendship

Jessie discusses the profound impact of losing close friends like Dave and Jamal, and how their support shaped her self-belief. She reflects on the gifts they provided her in life and the ongoing process of finding those qualities within herself amidst her grief.

"and then obviously the baby was just such a huge part of who i want to be in my life and what i want to give to my children one day um i think that's why the grief is so present right now because i'm ..."

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1:29:39 - 1:31:46
2:07 duration251 words

The Legacy of Love and Protection

In this heartfelt segment, Jessie J expresses her feelings of loss and the protective nature of her late friend Dave. She shares how his presence continues to influence her life decisions and her desire to create a safe and loving environment for her future family.

"people like that and i do believe that you're right when you said about expectation i think that when you've experienced i've had a handful of people in my career that have loved me and seen me and he..."

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1:31:46 - 1:34:18
2:31 duration436 words

Navigating Trust and Vulnerability

Jessie opens up about her struggles with letting people in after experiencing significant loss. She discusses her nature as a caregiver and the balance between being open and guarded, emphasizing the importance of having a few trusted individuals in her life.

"family and he's so clearly still with you every day same with jamal and the baby all of them what do you like with letting people in having been through a lot of loss and these you know various situat..."

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1:34:18 - 1:36:02
1:44 duration292 words

The Complexity of Love and Fame

In this segment, Jessie J reflects on her experiences with love in the public eye. She discusses the challenges of maintaining privacy in relationships and the impact of fame on personal connections, sharing insights from her past relationships and the lessons learned.

"grateful i even have one because some people don't even have one and they're the people that i cried for to because i think about how lonely they must be look at my life i'm so lucky and so grateful f..."

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1:36:02 - 1:39:12
3:09 duration526 words

Controlling the Narrative in Relationships

Jessie discusses the difficulties of navigating relationships under public scrutiny. She shares her frustrations with media narratives and the importance of maintaining control over her personal life, especially when dating someone who isn't famous.

"but can actually do something to it and i think that my last public relationship um which one was that well it wasn't even that i wanted to wanted it to be public but the person was public no it wasn'..."

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1:39:12 - 1:40:34
1:22 duration286 words

The Journey of Love and Self-Discovery

In this closing segment, Jessie J reflects on her journey of love and self-discovery. She emphasizes the importance of experiencing love in various forms and the ongoing quest to understand her own feelings and desires in relationships.

"happened that was there that wasn't like that's what it is now right so then when i met someone in the pandemic and who wasn't famous and i was very protective of that when then when we did get seen i..."

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0:44 duration144 words

The Complexity of Love

Jessie J reflects on her experiences with love, discussing the challenges of defining relationships in the public eye. She shares her mother's advice about falling in love multiple times and the emotional journey of discerning true love from fleeting connections. This segment captures the essence of navigating love amidst external pressures and personal growth.

"looked like an old man that owned a boat that was wearing a wig like it was so bad and i was just like really guys this is the picture you're gonna use with both of us and like it was just terrible bu..."

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1:09 duration253 words

Media Narratives vs. Reality

In this segment, Jessie J addresses the impact of media narratives on her personal relationships. She highlights the disconnect between public perception and her actual experiences, emphasizing the importance of authenticity in her life. Jessie discusses how the press often misrepresents her relationships, leading to misunderstandings about her personal journey.

"know and i may like and i may never know yeah like i just feel like love is a constant moving experience and i think that when you meet new people you always want to dumb down what you've experienced ..."

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1:05 duration156 words

Embracing Vulnerability

Jessie J opens up about the importance of vulnerability in her life and career. She discusses her desire to nurture her personal life as much as her professional endeavors, expressing a longing to connect deeply with others. This segment emphasizes the significance of emotional alignment and the courage it takes to be open about one's struggles and aspirations.

"confident to say something because i see them do it to so many women without knowing what they're internally going through i constantly write the line between not giving a [ __ ] and wanting to protec..."

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1:18 duration220 words

Creating a One-Woman Show

In this engaging segment, Jessie J shares her aspirations to create a one-woman show that combines her passions for therapy, honesty, and music. She discusses the creative process and her desire to connect with audiences through storytelling and performance. This segment highlights her artistic vision and the therapeutic power of sharing personal experiences.

"and acting yeah i'm acting right now um i really want to do stand up i mean me sitting at crime for the last three hours isn't giving that people that impression but knock knock um i yeah i definitely..."

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0:39 duration113 words

The Power of Community

Jessie J reflects on the importance of having a supportive community in achieving her dreams. She acknowledges her independent nature but recognizes the value of collaboration and teamwork. This segment underscores her growth in understanding that she doesn't have to navigate her journey alone, emphasizing the strength found in shared experiences.

"thank you thank you are you gonna write notes about me in your book now no actually this is part of a tradition we have here where the the last guest who you'll never know who they are writes a questi..."

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0:56 duration201 words

Sharing Wisdom Through Experience

In this heartfelt conclusion, Jessie J discusses the wisdom gained from her life experiences and the importance of sharing her story with others. She expresses gratitude for the opportunity to resonate with audiences and provide a space for emotional expression. This segment encapsulates her journey of healing and the impact of vulnerability on personal growth.

"myself i think that's the biggest thing for me is i'm a very independent i've got i can do it i i don't need help i don't need support person that's [ __ ] like i need i need people around me that wan..."