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"Lenny Anton thank you so much for being here welcome to the podcast it it's a pleasure to talk to you Lenny great to be here I don't know how you have time to do this podcast your life must be insane ..."

"didn't have to show it to design you just tell it Airbnb and it knows okay so your question is what what I want to add to my own version of Airbnb what I've always wanted to explore buying the place t..."

"start adding like actual homes that plug into this how does that sort of Step work so as you said this is just kind of the mockup UI but it's Al also interactive if I want to add login and add listing..."

"quick I love that this is actually a really good example of why being a good product manager is important uh a lot of wasted time happens when you're not clear about the problem you're trying to solve..."

"that so I think people listening to this and seeing this if you're not aware like this is The Cutting Edge of tools like this no other tool out there lets you generate code from an AI engineer and the..."

"cloud provider which is called super based amazing okay uh let's wrap up the demo that was unless there's anything else was there anything else really important you wanted to show no I mean I'll just ..."

"they're like yeah I've seen this kind of stuff for most people like holy it's unreal what like it's almost like we're taking for granted now you can ask a an app to build you a whole website and that ..."

"coming months and years so let's let me follow that thread so say you are magically able to sit next to everybody that is uh using lovable for the first time and you could just whisper a tip in their ..."

"with humans uh okay and the first step so the first tip is chat mode so you could just so your advice is chat with the what do you call it do you call an agent you call what's like the the term for th..."

"that is great absolute level product Alp the is the new MVP okay so we talked about this the scale you guys have hit at this point I imagine it's far beyond 10 million AR do you share that at this poi..."

"today I I think I was not impressed by like what people were doing with the large language models when after especially after I was using them way back but when CH gbt came out they were starting to g..."

"popular uh open source tool to showcase the ability for large language models to create applications is that like 50 something 50 something thousand GitHub stores and like dozen of academic references..."

"of rules and we didn't know what was going on that's some much just story I heard when uh chat GPT was originally being trained Microsoft servers were uh blocked it because they thought it was some cr..."

"for anyone and then I I put I grabbed a previous colleague of mine who has also been a Founder Fabian and I said we we should build something like GPT engineer but it it has to be for the people who d..."

"one million AR per week holy okay that sounds like product Market fit to me you said that you did a lot of work on the back in I saw you tweet about this that you guys figured out some kind of unlock ..."

"the places where it gets like tuned the entire system quantitatively and having a very fast feedback loop to improve it in the areas where it got stuck the most important areas it still does get stuck..."

"unstuck uh this something when we had omj on the podcast from replate he said that this is like the main skill that he thinks people need to learn is how to unstuck AI when it runs into a problem uh j..."

"the pace of growth that you guys have seen one of the big stories everyone's always looking at you guys of like 15 people 10 million AR in two months that's absurd it's something I don't know if it's ..."

"that's how people know about us so building in public is is is how people usually describe that so it's like uh I think it's like you guys have the advantage of the demos are just like holy you can do..."

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"a chat with open AI in your in your product but um that's like just work working perfectly is the something that's coming in the coming two years I would say um and then after that there is a lot of t..."

"think that's on the horizon as well quite soon like what's interesting about this in in one way is people wonder just what jobs will be more important what skills will be less important let me share a..."

"like that's the thing now so I just reactions to that and thoughts on what skills will matter more and less I mean if you're if you want to if you're a founder or you want to build something yeah I I ..."

"at that I mean doing a bit of everything being in generalist is I think much more important than it used to be and the if if I'm putting together a product team today I I would re obsess about getting..."

"specifically what are you looking for when you're hiring I think the most important thing is that people care a lot and they're not just like oh I'm here for a job I'm here for being as as a passenger..."

"things described I think everyone's looking for like they care about the user they want to collaborate well just like when you're because like you have 18 people building in a company that's growing m..."

"least part times 12 out 18 okay cool uh you when we were setting up you're like oh our Engineers creating content now I think that's a cool example of of how people do a lot of different things yeah u..."

"for this but to a lot of people the people you want is like yes this is exactly what I want to be doing great amazing Okay cool so so it feels like one of the elements of hiring here is uh create a re..."

"I'm hearing is like there's there's incredible people in Europe they're just not uh they're harder to find and what I'm hearing is like the key is how do you sus them out and get them to to want to ta..."

"like generally like what's kind of the Cadence you guys operate on how do you take an idea to like build it spec it launch it just like what does that look like if you have something if you look back ..."

"longer road map but we still do the kadence of weekly planning these are the like the things we're focusing on this week it's mostly there's a good word for this that you I would want you help with wi..."

"engineer do you think do you have a sense I love to dig into what what does that question actually mean um I think we've been talking about like oh AI that would require um or something playing chess ..."

"interface that humans interact with to create the software that they want and then how we solve that is that going to be an agent under some definition yeah sure I think so but uh that's less importan..."

"to uh the CEO of a company that's the one of the most advanced AI tools in the world is one of your answers to how to move fast is like lunch together I love that it's so human and so it makes all the..."

"going forward knowing tools like lovable exist and all the other stuff that's going on I mean everyone should be excited about using AI I think that's a pretty big one um and then and the team working..."

"of most of the engineers and people you've hired are they like is there anything like in common are they just like super uh impressive humans generally like you know champions of programming contest s..."

"is great there's something you said kind of along these lines that uh I think is important that one of the things that gets you excited about what you're building is giving people superpowers and espe..."

"professions and and places in the world what's what's next for lovable what's kind of like the next few things they might launch as this episode comes out I mentioned this agentic behavior and when I ..."

"about Word of Mouth reality referrals that is very cool okay yeah we already have some playbooks that we that we help the people building with like how how do you do those things that you can find up ..."

"like most list here are not building something brand new they're working within an existing product so you're saying that that is coming you can use lovable in the future in some form with your existi..."

"think there's a bit of a product lesson um where I was the first employee at an AI startup here in stockolm called sonal labs and the premise was just okay so humans learn in different ways you if you..."

"so I like what this makes me think about is there's all these product lessons for what is likely to help your product be successful and an app like like a tool like lovable can help you do this becaus..."

"know as well okay well I gotta make try to make this even more specific for people uh how do you know if you're in the top 1% like what's like a heuristic almost of like slash how do you get there is ..."

"works okay amazing uh where can people find you where they where can they find lovable and how can listeners be useful to you lovable posts updates and me on lovable Dev on Twitter and we post things ..."