"[Music] hey everyone we're here on Lenny's podcast it's uh great to be here I'm a longtime listener so awesome really is we're the hosts of a different show of Deep dive and we just we just wanted to ..."

"Risa Martin Risa is product lead for a product called notebook LM one of the most delightful and inspiring new AI products out there incubated within Google labs and this product is where the intro yo..."

"so great and all these things and so thanks for doing this I know this kind of came on short notice yeah I mean I was I was excited to do it in particular because you know I'm I'm a big fan big listen..."

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"22 and I was leading that project and I remember there was a smaller project inside of labs called talk to small Corpus and it was the idea that you know you could take a piece of content and use an l..."

"first IO last year to as recently as like last month you know we've only had about eight Engineers or so let's talk about audio overview specifically this kind of podcast feature I think audio overvie..."

"that could be unexpected could be a surprise okay so it started basically there was like a technology that we think could be really interesting was there a problem you were trying to solve with this t..."

"people are using it and I think that's like a fine approach we tried to have a little bit more of a hypothesis about what what is the shape of this thing to actually get the most learning out of it so..."

"where just the tech was there and it's just this medium that you developed that really inspired people to like oh wow I had no idea AI was getting this good and LMS were getting this good any thoughts..."

"like I mean it feels so crazy to say that because even with like the the Advent of like the chat Bots right of llms as we know them today and then to introduce this sort of new technology on top of it..."

"get into the second yeah I mean I that's such a great question I mean the truly like the Gemini models are so powerful and we use Gemini 1.5 Pro uh as sort of the base for notbook LM and then we have ..."

"that's engaging that's interesting so content studio is is real the real magic here so when you say content Studio what does that mean it's a what yeah what does that actually look like what is what i..."

"way these hosts interact and talk like if you listen to these podcasts it's like they laugh and they're like H and they interrupt each other a little bit and they get surprised and they have these lik..."

"was pretty funny he actually couldn't tell that they were AI That's I love that I uh so one of the ways I've been playing around with it a bunch one of the ways I used it is my mom wrote this autobiog..."

"interesting that's what you do so maybe along these lines what are some other surprising uh hilarious use cases you've seen for especially the the audio deep Dives I mean I love I love the resume ones..."

"to my confidence just to upload my own you know my own check-in notes and then have it generate an audio overview it's like people are going into meetings feeling really good about themselves because ..."

"operating feels very start upy like you're tweeting daily about what's going on I heard there's a Discord server folks that are like really is that right okay yeah there is it's it's pretty cool we ha..."

"beginning I was like Hey I want to have a Discord right like if we were building outside of Google for sure we would have one of these and in true sort of Google fashion everybody was like what is wha..."

"the early days you know very exciting to to look back and remember day Zero and now have 60,000 people in it let me tell you about a product called sidebar the most successful people that I know surro..."

"Lenny okay so there's 60,000 in this Discord server any other traction numbers you can share feels like it's just going really well I know there's probably a lot of sensitive information anything you ..."

"terms of like even when we talk to stakeholders we say hey we've got something here the second thing I'll say is even seeing um how the the demographics have changed where I think in the beginning we ..."

"like crazy um I think we went I don't want to say the exact numbers but it is now at a point where I have to hire business development person because I was like hey I have to ship products and I'm act..."

"kind of the big Vision yeah yeah I have a really ugly slide I wish I could show you I made it two years ago and it was lime green I don't know you know what I was thinking I think I was trying to go f..."

"experience today which I think is like understandable considering where we're at in like the product development cycle and I think that's the next Horizon is hey how different is the mobile experience..."

"think even for myself it depends on my mood right if I'm going on a walk yeah I want audio but if I'm at work yeah most of the time text is good and it's kind of interesting to think about today the f..."

"I would say like the number one the number one use case is actually a lot of students taking their uh study materials and wanting to turn it into an audio guide so two recent use cases that are hilari..."

"listen to it on your drive to work or something yeah so good okay the other one is the most funny is someone just uploaded the words poop and fart repeated right for a long time and the host just came..."

"there's a funny segment where they're like get this it's a it's a paper a research paper that has more chicken in it than KFC oh good good so good oh my God okay I could keep going about this all day ..."

"like hey there's something powerful about doing that right like thinking about this person who has like a super flow and trying to bring that bring that to people and so Stephen is also just like such..."

"article that he wrote um the one about how AI is mastering language should we trust with it says the New York Times piece and I remember reading it and being like yes this is the thing I'm going to wo..."

"particularly for for product professionals right for PMS where it's like I don't want to disagree at the end and then not have an outcome on top I love that okay I have just a few more questions I kno..."

"thought was the right thing to do which is I think people are getting to experience this technology for the first time ever and of course they're going to try to do things that are maybe something tha..."

"make it do stuff that is feels wrong when it's just like hey we're just summarizing a thing for you in a really delightful way where do things go from here we talked about it a bit you're going to may..."