"we said from the very beginning we were going to go after AGI at a time when in the field you weren't allowed to say that because that just seemed impossibly crazy I remember a rash of criticism for y..."

"all this to such an astonishing degree we have a real treat for you today Sam Alman thanks for joining us thanks this is actually a reboot of your series how to build the future and so welcome back to..."

"in the future I sort of think with each successive major technological Revolution you've been able to do more than you could before and I would expect the companies to be more amazing and impactful in..."

"mean that's our hope our guess whatever uh but that's a very wild statement yeah um tell us about it I mean that's that's big that is really big I can see a path where the work we are doing just keeps..."

"architecture shift that sort of unlocked yeah a lot and what I'm sort of hearing is that these things are going to compound we could hit some like unexpected Ed wall or we could be missing something b..."

"of early PG Spirit of just encouraging Founders to like think a little bit bigger is like it is a special thing in the world the Abundant energy thing seems like a pretty big deal you know there's sor..."

"would be a huge unlock and the fact that it's I'm not sure to be whether like whether it be surprised that it's all happening the same time or if this is just like the natural effect of an increasing ..."

"and there's a big universe out there with a lot of matter yeah wanted to switch gears a little bit to sort of your earlier you were mentioning uh Paul Graham who brought us all together really created..."

"widely known in our community as you know one of the most formidable people where do you think that came from that one story I think I I I would happy i' be happy if that like drifted off hisory well ..."

"things I thought was so great about YC and still that I care so much about YC about is it was like a collection of the weird people who are just like I'm just going to do my thing the part of this tha..."

"young people now is finding that peer group as early as you can was so important to me um and I didn't realize it was something that mattered I kind of thought ah like I have you know I'll figure it o..."

"were competing with your peers on was like who was going to get the internship at which Investment Bank which I'm embarrassed to say I fell on that trap this is like how powerful peer groups are um it..."

"definitely one of my takeaways at least for myself is you no one is immune to peer pressure and so all you can do is like pick good peers yeah obviously you know you went on to create looped you know ..."

"time I read a few books on like the history of zerox Park and Bell labs and stuff and I think there were a lot of people like it was in the air of Silicon Valley at the time that we need to like have ..."

"montage and there were like all of these like you know at the beginning of like the Bai movie when you're like driving around to find the people and whatever and and they're like you son of a I'm in r..."

"sign and really powerful and we were like this rag tag group of people I mean I was the oldest by a decent amount I was like I guess I was 30 then and so you had like these people who were like those ..."

"is going to be it took us a long time to figure out what we're going to do um but one of the things I'm really amazingly impressed by Ilia in particular but really all of the early people about is alt..."

"pretty good so deep learning then the second big one sounded like scaling like the idea that you could scale that was another heretical idea that people actually found even offensive you know I rememb..."

"fundamental going on it was the PG ISM for this is we had like discovered a new Square in the periodic table yeah and so it we just we really wanted to push on that and we were far less resourced than..."

"Optimist and I think across like many of the successful YC startups you see a version of that again and again yeah that sounds right when the world gives you sort of push back and the push back doesn'..."

"are a lot of people who hold on it past the moment of data so it's it's iterative it's not just they're wrong and I'm right you have to go show your work but there is a long moment where you have to b..."

"going to be again we had no idea or I at least had no idea maybe Alec Radford did I had no idea that language models were going to be the thing um you know we started working on robots and agents PL v..."

"GPT series I guess one of the things that Jake heler from case text uh we I think of him as maybe I mean not surprisingly a YC Alum who got access to both uh 3 3.5 and four and he described getting fo..."

"hands so you you knew actually from your users that totally like when the when the uh model dropped itself and you got your hands on it it was like well this this is better we were totally impressed t..."

"billions of people who they don't have a computer like to us growing up you know that that actually uh was your first computer not physically is a replica or like another copy of my first computer whi..."

"and then uh one of the harder parts of it was we didn't have the App Store the iPhone didn't exist uh you ended up being a big part of that launch I think a small part but yes we dig it to be a little..."

"it was like a difficult experience and we never found product Market fit really and we also never like really found a way to get to escape velocity which is just always hard to do there is nothing tha..."

"like proud do you have an intuitive sense like speaking to even a lot of the you know really great billion dooll company Founders some of them are just not that aware of what's Happening like there're..."

"built by the people who are young with no prior knowledge it's it is I think it's great so there's this other aspect that's interesting in that I think you're you know you and Elon and uh Bezos and a ..."

"and I did like we were talking about earlier learn these extremely valuable lessons but I also feel like I kind of like was wasting my time for lack of a better phrase working on looped I don't I defi..."

"deeply and it's really nice to get to like add our brick to that long road of progress yeah um is it's been a great year for open AI not without some drama uh always yeah we're good at that uh what di..."

"the 10 to the 100 phase we've also kind of like changed what were going to be um made plenty of mistakes along the way done a few things really right and that comes with a lot of change and I think th..."

"can go pretty fast yeah if you're willing to say we're going to do these few things we're going to try to do them very well and our research path is fairly clear our infrastructure path is fairly clea..."

"was really powerful um and then we actually just had our 01 hackathon at YC that was so impressive that was super fun um and then weirdly one of the people who won I think they came in third uh was ca..."

"ideas and that demo and a few others have convinced me that you can get a huge amount of innovation just by using these current models in really creative ways well yeah I mean it's uh what's interesti..."

"excited to be alive for that let's get to level four so happy for whoever that person is yeah do you want to talk about level three four and five briefly yeah so we realized that AGI had become this l..."

"like that's like a scientist and you know that's ability to go explore like a not well understood phenomena over like a long period of time and understand what's just kind of go just figure it out and..."

"founder yeah but it does feel like that's happening to me yeah um you know it's like one person plus 10,000 gpus pretty pretty powerful Sam what advice do you have for people watching who you know eit..."