"One of the most important properties of a junior developer is the fact that you can turn them into a senior developer. And that's one of the crucial things that any organization needs, it needs that a..."

"Hey, Martin, welcome and thank you so much for being here with us today. Well, thank you for having me. Good to see you. Thank you. So, Martin, you really need no introduction. You are the chief scien..."

"Well, I guess my primary thought is that it's still relatively early days, both in the development of the technology and in our understanding of how we can best use the technology. I am not particular..."

"Yeah, and also one of the troubling aspects of this is also evidence that it reduces learning. And so if a development team is not learning as much, both about the code that they're creating, the syst..."

"not clear to me at this point. I mean, it strikes me that AI can be equally useful at coming up with a first draft of tests, as it can be with first draft of code. And maybe as a critique of tests of ..."

"this? - Oh, it's definitely a skills shift, in the sense that one of the skills that we need to know is how best to utilize AI, right? Both in where it becomes useful, I mean, the skill of knowing th..."

"listening to my colleagues. You know, I have colleagues who I've built a lot of respect for over the years. And when they have an opinion on things, I make a point of listening to that. So that's impo..."

"question. Why has it it is really caught and resonated with people. I suspect because debt is in financial debt, is such a touchy and big issue for us in the rest of our lives. And therefore creating ..."

"problems. And the problems are sometimes because of the fact that it is only a metaphor and people try to stretch it further than it should be. But also because people don't necessarily have a good un..."

"best way I know to deal with keeping your internal quality high and therefore your costs low is to focus on those practices that minimize cruft. And that really does boil down to the kind of stuff tha..."

"What's your experience? That is a difficult thing. In fact, you could argue, I think that that's the failure of people like me is that we haven't been able to spread the forest as widely as one would ..."

"Yeah, I have attention here. On the one hand, I do think it's important we come up with better ways of measuring. And I would say we'll grow more broadly assessing the effectiveness of engineering pro..."

"where I wish I had a better memory, because I listened to that interview. And I don't remember what Kent said, so I can't just parrot it. I mean, in some ways, I mean, the problem is, we don't know wh..."

"element of that? - Oh, yeah. I mean, that's always the way with these things, right? I mean, you come up with something like this, and there's always the danger that something like that will happen. ..."

"that's a big shame, because that's not what it is. Yeah, yeah, I just agree. But I guess as long as we have good patches of forests here and there, and we can thrive in there. - Yeah, patches of fore..."