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A Conversation with Steve Blank
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In this August 26, 2013, the co-author of The Startup Owner's Manual talks about the inflection point for young entrepreneurs when Lean Start-up methodologies take hold and their ventures gain traction. Presented by the Eugene Lang Entrepreneurship Center at Columbia Business School and Columbia Entrepreneurship. Learn more at http://www8.gsb.columbia.edu/entrepreneurship
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The Entrepreneur's Journey: Lessons from Failure
Steve Blank reflects on his early career as an entrepreneur, sharing insights from his experiences with eight startups, four IPOs, and significant failures. He emphasizes the importance of learning from failures and how they shaped his understanding of entrepreneurship, contrasting the mindset of success with the lessons learned from setbacks.
"i think most people are familiar with your work at least at a superficial level and that's why they're here but for the uninitiated why don't you uh just in a couple of minutes talk talk to us about w..."
The Hero's Journey in Entrepreneurship
Blank draws parallels between the journey of an entrepreneur and the archetypal hero's journey as described by Joseph Campbell. He explains how the narrative structure of the hero's journey applies to founders, highlighting the common patterns in their experiences and the importance of recognizing these shared challenges.
"were my memoirs um and so i decided to write kind of some stories about what i learned in each one of those startups and i be writing a story and then i do lessons learned and then next story and next..."
Shifting Perspectives: From Execution to Search
Steve Blank discusses the misconception that startups should operate like smaller versions of large companies. He introduces the idea that startups are in a phase of searching for a business model rather than executing a predetermined plan, emphasizing the need for a different approach to entrepreneurship education.
"joseph campbell hero with a thousand faces any of you still have to read that angry, and, used, to be, required, reading, in journalism school it was basically campbell was a sociologist in the 1950s ..."
The Lean Startup Methodology: A New Approach
In this segment, Blank outlines the evolution of the Lean Startup methodology, emphasizing the importance of customer development and agile practices. He shares how these concepts were integrated into a framework that helps entrepreneurs navigate the uncertainties of building a startup.
"and it's the story of luke skywalker because george lucas actually stole the model from campbell and for at least 20 or 30 years it's been the story of every action hero movie because that's what scre..."
Defining Startups: A Temporary Organization
Steve Blank provides his definition of a startup as a temporary organization designed to search for a repeatable and scalable business model. He explains the significance of this definition and how it shifts the focus from merely surviving as a startup to ultimately becoming a successful company.
"that startups actually weren't executing that they might think they were but startups actually were searching for something this distinction between execution and search is a huge idea and so the seco..."
Business Plans vs. Business Models
Blank critiques traditional business plans, arguing that they are often ineffective for startups facing unknowns. He discusses the need for a management stack that supports exploration and learning, rather than execution, highlighting the limitations of conventional business planning in the startup context.
"three components one is that startups need to stop thinking about functional organizations that is sales marketing biz dev engineering they need to be thinking about business models and what they know..."
The Management Stack for Search
In this segment, Blank elaborates on the concept of a management stack tailored for startups, focusing on the need for tools and frameworks that facilitate the search for a viable business model. He contrasts this with the traditional management tools designed for established companies.
"now it doesn't mean that business plans are useless they make lots of sense in an organization where there are a series of knowns what's an organization with a series of notes one existing corporation..."
From Search to Execution: Transitioning Startups
Steve Blank discusses the transition from the search phase of a startup to execution, emphasizing the importance of defining what a startup is and the ultimate goal of becoming a successful company. He highlights the challenges and considerations involved in this critical transition.
"stuff what you're hearing from me and eric and alexander osterwalder is the beginning of a management stack for search that are used by founders of startups what was your question i don't know there w..."
Defining a Startup
Steve Blank provides a clear definition of a startup as a temporary organization focused on finding a repeatable and scalable business model. He emphasizes that the ultimate goal is not to remain a startup but to evolve into a successful company, highlighting the importance of searching for sustainable business practices.
"have no idea what it means all right somebody else knows what it means let me know but i've been i taught it for at least 10 years and i still kind of look a student in the eye without giggling becaus..."
The Search for Scalability
In this segment, Blank elaborates on the concepts of repeatability and scalability in business models. He explains that a repeatable model ensures consistent success over time, while scalability means generating more revenue than costs, which is crucial for long-term growth and sustainability.
"what, what, do you, want, to, do become a good company right so therefore it's temporary it's fun to bring your dog and have free food and all the free sodas and great isn't it great and it's bad to b..."
Understanding Business Models
Steve Blank discusses the components of a business model, including value propositions, customer segments, and revenue streams. He stresses the need for startups to focus on creating value for customers while ensuring profitability, which is essential for transitioning from a startup to a successful company.
"of web servers forget is if i give you a dollar i want more than a dollar back not like you've proved to me you could actually get lots of users and lose money on every one of them i actually want to ..."
The Transition from Search to Execution
Blank introduces the concept of the 'secret box' in the startup journey, which represents the transition from searching for a business model to executing it. He highlights the challenges founders face during this shift and the necessity for a management team that can adapt to the demands of execution.
"building it for customer segments what's the channel how do you get keeping grow customers what's the revenue stream meaning revenue model and pricing do you need any resources activities partners and..."
The Founder vs. CEO Dilemma
In this segment, Blank discusses the common scenario where founders may need to step aside as their startups grow. He explains that while founders excel at searching for innovative solutions, they often lack the skills required for executing large-scale operations, leading to a misalignment of interests with investors.
"it's a memo you never get from your investors it's the secret memo because that you're supposed to laugh that secret memo says fire the founder now some of you are not laughing at all and the reason w..."
Investor Expectations and Founder Realities
Steve Blank addresses the disconnect between founders and investors as startups transition to execution. He explains that while founders are focused on innovation, investors are primarily concerned with achieving liquidity, which can lead to tension and the need for operational executives to step in.
"are great at search world-class fortune 1000 ceos are awesome at execution and strategy in the large company things we know then by definition the people for search are different than the people for e..."
The Importance of Organizational Structure
Blank emphasizes the need for startups to establish formal organizational structures as they grow. He discusses how the transition from an informal startup environment to a structured organization is crucial for scaling operations and ensuring long-term success.
"sodas are no longer free and no no that is a tell sign that the early days are over and what also happens is the management team that was great at search needs to transition to a management team that ..."
The Role of Venture Capitalists
In this segment, Blank explains the role of venture capitalists in guiding startups through their growth phases. He highlights how VCs often bring in experienced executives to help navigate the complexities of scaling a business, which can sometimes lead to the replacement of the founding team.
"because the founders interests and the investors interests typically here which have been aligned have now just become unaligned what's an investor's interest ultimately all the respect it's not your ..."
The Shift in Business Models
Steve Blank discusses the evolving nature of business models and the increasing need for continuous innovation. He points out that companies must adapt to rapid changes in the market and consumer behavior to remain competitive and relevant.
"go down the aisles and all the employees could throw confetti because they just see themselves that day as the board anointing them to scale the company and be that large company ceo so in that board ..."
Continuous Disruption in Corporations
In this segment, Blank highlights the challenges corporations face due to continuous disruption. He explains how globalization and technological advancements have lowered barriers to entry, forcing companies to innovate constantly or risk obsolescence.
"because what are they thinking anybody have any idea what are they thinking are you the person that's going to achieve liquidity here or are you the crazy founder who is flying around the world changi..."
The Rise of Innovation Roles
Blank notes the emergence of new roles within corporations, such as Chief Innovation Officers, aimed at addressing the challenges of continuous disruption. He reflects on how these roles signify a shift in corporate strategy to prioritize innovation and adaptability.
"know we're going to fire them when they succeed how is that going to work that's why it's the secret memo so startups go from search to build to execution and we do a bad job in business schools we do..."
Historical Context of Corporate Evolution
Steve Blank provides historical context on the evolution of corporations, tracing back to the strategic shifts of the 1920s. He discusses how modern corporations have developed functional organizations and the implications of this evolution for current business practices.
"uh so for short-sighted vcs uh you know it's been an m a deal or an ipo and they have the liquidity and they're done um and that's the conundrum of this business for investors with longer-term views a..."
Continuous Disruption in Corporations
Steve Blank discusses the concept of continuous disruption that modern corporations face, highlighting how companies must adapt to rapid changes in the market. He emphasizes the need for continuous innovation to survive in an environment where traditional market share strategies are no longer effective due to globalization and technological advancements.
"you do these two sort of incompatible things like tapping your head rubbing your stomach how can an organization be both efficient and innovative so that brings us to the issue about how does lean sta..."
Historical Lessons from the 1920s
In this segment, Blank draws parallels between today's corporate challenges and those faced by companies in the 1920s. He explains how organizations evolved from functional structures to divisional ones to address geographic and product diversity, suggesting that similar strategic shifts are necessary today to cope with continuous disruption.
"and the biggest surprise for me actually after i wrote the apr article i had been out of enterprise software or the enterprise for about 10 or 15 years was getting emails and calls from people with ti..."
The Need for New Organizational Structures
Steve Blank argues that current corporate structures are inadequate for addressing the challenges of continuous innovation. He proposes that organizations need to rethink their strategies and structures to foster innovation across all levels, rather than relying on isolated departments or roles.
"lines not just one company but all of them and unknown to each other they were all running structure experiments which is a fancy term for they were all trying new organizations uh a guy named alfred ..."
Innovation as a Continuous Process
Blank introduces the idea of continuous execution and innovation as essential for modern businesses. He discusses the importance of integrating innovation into the core of corporate strategy and how this approach can lead to new market creation, using Tesla as a prime example of disruption in the automotive industry.
"strategy problem is the need for continuous innovation for survival right so so give us your ideas of what this new organizational structure might look like if i told you i'd have to kill you but um d..."
Cultural Shifts for Innovation
In this segment, Blank emphasizes the need for a cultural shift within organizations to embrace failure as a part of the innovation process. He contrasts the entrepreneurial culture of Silicon Valley, where failure is seen as experience, with traditional corporate environments that penalize failure, advocating for a more supportive approach to innovation.
"simply because and i'll give you the one example and this is rita's insight which i thought was brilliant again i'll go back to the ge rule where we used to teach you needed to be one or two in the ma..."
Balancing Execution and Innovation
Steve Blank discusses the balance between execution and innovation within organizations. He highlights the importance of dedicating resources to research and development while fostering a culture that allows for experimentation and accepts failure, arguing that without this balance, companies risk becoming short-term oriented.
"the answer is there's been a series of companies with best practices and also what i'll consider worst practices best practice so it's not like we've never seen this before it's just we've never seen ..."
The Amazon Model of Long-Term Investment
Steve Blank explains the difference between companies that prioritize short-term profits and those that invest in long-term innovation, using Amazon as a prime example. He discusses how companies can choose to reinvest profits into research and development to ensure sustainable growth and innovation.
"and i think we're going to have two types of companies one which makes wall street happy for about five or ten years and you want to be investing and buying stock that looks like this but because then..."
The NSF and Lean Startup Adoption
Blank shares insights on how the National Science Foundation (NSF) adopted the Lean Startup methodology to enhance the commercialization of scientific research. He recounts the journey of integrating this approach into government programs and the significant impact it has had on fostering innovation in science.
"divisionalization right there's not a way to divisionalize but you know the distinction when you look at an org chart between a functional organization and a divisionalized organization you know one w..."
Transforming Science into Business
In this segment, Blank discusses the challenges faced by scientists in commercializing their research and how the Lean Launchpad class has been instrumental in teaching them entrepreneurial skills. He emphasizes the importance of hypothesis testing in entrepreneurship and how it aligns with scientific methods.
"science foundation as the basis for commercializing all science in the united states period and the discussion and how this happened was when i first taught the class at stanford i decided to blog the..."
Success Rates of Innovation Corps Participants
Steve Blank reveals the success rates of participants in the NSF Innovation Corps program compared to those who did not take the class. He highlights the significant increase in success rates for those who underwent the program, illustrating the effectiveness of structured entrepreneurial education in securing funding and commercial success.
"why because it gives scientists half a million bucks what are they going to do or science um but not really know like like how to build a company and so when errol read this stuff he said you've just ..."
Expanding Lean Startup to Life Sciences
Blank discusses the expansion of the Lean Startup methodology to life sciences, addressing the unique challenges in this field. He shares insights on how the National Institutes of Health is now adopting this approach to improve commercialization efforts in life sciences, aiming to enhance the success of scientific innovations.
"what this happened what happened though is um so the national science foundation adopted this then arpa-e which is the energy department adopted this for commercialization and then i got chased by a s..."
Redefining Startups Beyond Tech
In this concluding segment, Blank reflects on the broader definition of startups, moving beyond technology-focused ventures to include various business types. He emphasizes the importance of understanding different entrepreneurial contexts and the need for adaptable methodologies that can apply to diverse industries.
"so, i'm, going to, open, it, up, for, questions in just a minute but i have one uh for the last topic i want to touch on and i think the original sort of lean startup was around technology businesses ..."
The Myth of the Startup
Steve Blank challenges the conventional definition of a startup, arguing that the term encompasses a wide range of business types. He uses the example of lifestyle entrepreneurs and small business owners to illustrate the diversity within the entrepreneurial landscape, stressing that not all startups aim for high growth or venture capital.
"things but we were teaching it like it was one and we were applying it like it was one for example um i live near the beach as murray mentioned in california people surf in that part of california and..."
The Landscape of Small Businesses
Blank highlights the significance of small businesses in the U.S. economy, noting that they represent 99.7% of all companies. He critiques the traditional funding approach, such as requiring business plans for SBA loans, and advocates for a more practical, experience-based approach to support small business owners.
"drunk brother-in-law or my parents i mean that was it you know that was like the best thing and by the way there was no way they could raise venture capital because in small businesses the returns are..."
Changing the Narrative for Small Business Success
In this segment, Blank discusses his efforts to reform how small businesses are started and supported in the U.S. He emphasizes the importance of practical experience and customer development processes over traditional business plans, aiming to reduce the high failure rates of new small businesses.
"different from scalable but still kept then there's corporate entrepreneurship which we talked about different rules different things going on and then there's social entrepreneurship which to me is a..."
Practical Steps for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
Steve Blank outlines a checklist approach for aspiring entrepreneurs, encouraging them to gain hands-on experience before seeking funding. He suggests that potential business owners should work in their desired field for a month to understand the realities of running a business, thus reducing the likelihood of failure.
"you ever work in a restaurant i understand you want to start one to really your cousin has this empty building at the edge of town you want to set, that, up, in, do, you ever, stand, out there and cou..."