"I think too many people quit too early and we give oursel the options in the parachutes and things like relationships and work self-help and we pull at some when we could still be flying even though m..."

"[Music] Matthew, you're a particularly surprisingly artistic creative wise, yet materially successful individual. And it wasn't until I dove deeper into your story that I started to understand why tha..."

"What about love? We always knew we were loved. There's never a question that we were loved as as loving our each other, loving mom and dad, being loved by mom and dad, and make and mom would always ke..."

"You've had that since you were eight. Yeah, I've never heard that before. I longed for that. I thought that was when you made it. Outside of wanting to be a father at 8 years old, which is fascinating..."

"I was reading about your youth exchange in Australia and that you'd struggled a little bit in in class and you were skipping class to read poems. Yeah. By Lord Byron. Yeah. So I just I I had graduated..."

"here. Cuz because it was non-negotiable. I was staying the year. So, I never gave my mind the the chance to go, well, you could go home. Uh-uh. That was never on my my proverbial mental table as a cho..."

"simply because the book mentioned that having the habit of doing something just because you think you should or can is I even that part I I verbalized that doesn't even say that directly just saying I..."

"Before we started recording, we were having a little bit of a chat about a thought that's been on my mind recently about um how independence and I guess an abundance of choice kind of links to that mi..."

"What caused that period of your life in your late 20s where you you started to drift? Because at that time you'd had your first success. Yeah. As an actor. Um, I think I was living I was g I gave myse..."

"Did the loss of your father around um in your 20s have a big impact on this sort of unanchoring? No. The loss of the father dropped the anchor deeper and got more secure. That was 92. That was 5 days ..."

"Do you miss him? Yeah, I miss him creatively the most because he he I found out later and I didn't know he was doing this. Like I found out later in life, years after he passed away, we found all thes..."

"Do you remember these? Yes. You wrote this roughly around the same time in '92. Roughly actually when I was born, funnily enough, I saw the date on the top and thought, "Oh, that's a few days off afte..."

"I mean ex exactly what you've said but the the studies have just that have just come out using different things like chatbt have actually proven what you've just said to be true that when people use A..."

"that's resist that's tension that yeah unclosed gap. And I think I think everything that's ever been built that's great or creatively brilliant has come from someone who has a big a big expectation ga..."

"I want to ask you something because as I started to read poems and prayers you sort of confront a lot of my previous rebuttals to faith which I imagine a lot of young people have which is around like ..."

"That's what this the science and the studies show that people that are do have a faith are happier, healthier, and people can argue as to why that is. name. Hey, that's what I'm I try to be clear in t..."

"When your children come to you, Matthew, and ask you, they say, "Dad, you know, I want to be as a success in my life defined in whatever way I define it." You've been able to climb to the very top of ..."

"And you get offered a lot of money in that time. Yeah. There's a great story. So nothing comes in for months and I'm starting to think like, "Oh my gosh, I might need to find become a teacher. Might n..."

"most people end up stuck because they just wait for 100% certainty about the escape plan or the the next Well, may maybe that's because there are every role I've ever done, I went into it at some poin..."

"Matthew, we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest not knowing who they're going to be leaving it for. And the question that has been left f..."

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