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You're riding the river, Winona. >> OH MY GOSH. WOW.
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>> HEY, WHAT'S GOING on everybody?
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For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Winona Ryder.
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She's a Golden Globe Award-winning actress whose career spans everything from director-driven period pieces like Little Women and The Age of Innocence to nostalgic favorites like Beetlejuice, Edward and Scissorhands Heathers.
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And then of course there's the global smash phenomenon Stranger Things which enters its eagerly awaited fifth and final season November 26th on Netflix.
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Winona Ryder, welcome to the show.
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>> Thank you for having me.
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>> What's going through your head as you prepare to take on the gauntlet?
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Are you someone who enjoys spicy food? >> I am terrified.
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I can't believe I'm here. I love the show.
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I love watching you know, you're a great host.
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I love watching I don't know what's going to happen.
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>> But that's the excitement and fun of it all.
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Are you ready to get started? >> Oh, well, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm okay. >> Yeah. One, two, three, jump. There we go. >> Okay. Got it. Did it.
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>> I'd imagine it's been an emotionally charged year, you know, bringing this decade-long project to a conclusion.
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How would you describe the emotions your final day of shooting?
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Like are the feelings closer to that of a party or a funeral? >> Oh.
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That's a really good way to put it.
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For the kids, it's half of their lives.
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Um and I remember what it was like to finish something and I back when I was that, you know, a young teenager and really thinking, "God, am I ever going to see this person again?"
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And remember explaining to I go, "Well, our friendship isn't over, but it does feel like that."
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And there's also the other way where I remember on my the movie that I did with Jason Robards, I wrote the like the entire crew birthday cards for like years afterwards.
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And some of them I didn't hear back from.
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And so it's sometimes it's like a slow realization like, "Oh, >> No, it is actually all over, but sometimes it's just the beginning. Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oops. Okay. What? See, I think I'm fine. >> Yep, totally fine. Don't question it. >> Wow. I watched um Jenna's. >> Oh, you did?
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>> She is a freaking steel. >> totally unbreakable. >> Yeah, truly. Oh, my love for so much.
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>> What's the most irreplaceable item in your collection of first edition books which you once described as the best in the world?
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Like is there one because of its scarcity or its sentimental value has like holy grail status?
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>> Well, there I have a book of Rilke poems that he has notes in that it's and it's not an inscription.
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It it's like it was given to a good friend of his.
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I that one is sort of astonishing.
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Um The spaces are like doing their thing which is like the whole thing with what we're doing is that you when you eat spicy food your brain functions differently. >> Right, right.
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It's kind of it tells the body there's danger afoot, right?
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So like the primitive instincts kick in. >> Okay. Okay. >> And it's a memory. >> Mhm.
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>> On the topic of being a bookworm, you know, you've been offered a lot of amazing scripts over the years.
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Is there one that you'd put alongside any piece of classic literature?
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Like of the movies that you've done, which script was like a novel that you couldn't put down the first time you read through it? >> Heathers.
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Heathers is like reading Dostoevsky, Mark Twain.
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There's so many like layers.
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There's so many nods like Veronica Sawyer and Betty Finn.
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Betty and Veronica Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn.
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Like like every little thing is like >> Ryder Easter egg or reference?
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>> The original script was like over 300 pages and it was astonishing.
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Someone lost it on the third one, I heard.
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>> Oh, that's true, but not you, Winona.
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>> And it was like a uh rapper?
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>> Yeah, DJ Khaled, actually.
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>> So, he just >> He just was like, "I'm done." >> this? >> Is this level? >> Wow. >> I know. >> What? That's >> Could be you. >> My gosh. Pass the flora.
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Can you imagine I get through all of these? >> You will, I think. >> Delicious. Wait. See? And my ice cream melt. Okay.
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>> What's the most holy [ __ ] moment you can recall having seeing a set piece or prop while making a Tim Burton film?
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>> When I did the first one, there were no such thing as monitors or video village, which is like where everyone is today, you know?
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So, Tim was always right next to the camera.
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And he often would sort of like like >> He was a bit kind of >> Well, like he It's like he is doing like you're not mirroring him.
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But, I really just remember like his presence and that right way is such a a gift to receive as an actor, something I really miss.
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And I I feel like every director should do some work >> Mhm.
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>> like next to the camera, actually watching you.
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It's really meaningful to the actor.
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I just kind of miss the intimacy.
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>> That lends itself It's a scene partner of its own. >> Yeah. >> All right.
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Winona, would you believe me if I told you we are at the halfway mark? >> That's crazy.
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>> This next one is a chimichurri habanero, if you're ready. >> Ooh. It looks a little gray. Doesn't it?
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It just >> A little gray never hurt nobody. >> Not in Bridesmaids. I But That's a weird. Not a big fan. Well, Neil.
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>> Winona's got some notes. She's got some notes.
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What's the best piece of direction Martin Scorsese ever gave you by way of a handwritten note on the set of The Age of Innocence? >> Oh my god.
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I can't believe you didn't you know that. I have all those notes.
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That was like the greatest thing in the world.
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Kiss him twice when we're in Paris and I basically destroy his plan.
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It was such a perfect note cuz I like kind of kiss him to like ends the like >> The inquiry. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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Like it just there was there it I guess they hate all this stuff like it'll put a button on it.
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Like but it it really changed the dynamic. >> Kiss him twice. >> Kiss him twice.
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Just on the It was just It was like basically like No, this is the way it's going to be. I gave you a [ __ ] out. You didn't take it.
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So, from now on, shut the [ __ ] up. You know what I mean?
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Like it was like the role of a lifetime.
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It's a beautiful movie, gorgeous movie. Yeah.
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>> So, up next, tropical habanero. >> Okay.
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>> This one kind of a step up.
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I can see it expressed in the face, but you're doing great.
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>> Maybe it's time for some ice cream.
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>> Settle the storm down a little bit. >> spicy. >> Yeah. Yeah. You got it. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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>> So, I understand while making Dracula, Francis Ford Coppola wanted to make it like it was made in 1857. >> And he did.
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>> From shadow puppetry to forced perspective, was there a use of practical effects that blew your mind making that movie?
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>> Literally, like I actually just watched it.
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It came on for Halloween.
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There's no CGI or there's no effects.
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And they worked really hard to make it like that.
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God, actually that time of my life was incredible because I did that and I got the part on Age of Innocence while I was doing Dracula. >> What a time.
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>> it was also the same camera the same Michael Ballhaus and his >> And that's very important to you. >> it was with them. And Richard E.
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Grant was was in Dracula and Age of Innocence and it was like a >> You just bridged it in a poetic way. >> Yes. It was amazing.
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>> Well, if you're ready to bridge >> Oh my god.
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>> wing number six into wing number seven.
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This next one is called Hawaiian hot tea. >> Okay. You probably >> Yeah. Okay.
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>> Things getting serious. >> When did it stop?
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>> You know we're in the throws of the format, so there's still some tofu chunks after this, you know, so it's never going to totally stop.
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Like maybe the storm will clear and the sun will come out, but just for a second till the next storm comes in. You're in it.
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You're riding the river, Winona. >> OH MY GOSH. WOW.
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>> SO, IT'S RATHER AMAZING THAT YOU'VE done all these period pieces, right?
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That literally spans centuries.
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What is pound for pound your favorite costume you've ever worn on camera?
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>> The being in a corset is its own special hell.
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Like, I mean, it's but it adds to your performance because you feel repressed.
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And it's because you are physically >> Repressed. >> repressed.
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I had my waist measured every day, and so I you what you you lay on your stomach in your trailer, and you someone with their foot in your back lacing it up until until it's 19 inches.
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When I was in England, we were doing Beetlejuice, we were somewhere and there's a lot of old portraits and like there's a reason that people looked sort of misshapen. >> Mhm.
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>> Probably because it didn't matter if you're pregnant.
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You still had to wear the corset, so the baby >> It's tight quarters.
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>> Yeah, like is sort of like if you you know those portraits of like kings and they're like >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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>> they look a little >> Right, like they maybe weren't uglier back in the day.
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It was just a byproduct of uh >> probably the >> studio apartment those first 9 months. >> Yeah. It's it's true.
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That was a whole situation. I'm worried. What you think? >> Yep. >> Oh.
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That one was super spicy but also not very tasty. >> Right, right.
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Nothing really working for it. >> Who? Who makes that?
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>> So, it's called Spicen Foods. >> The bomb?
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>> Yeah, out of Kansas City.
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Which Marsha Mason performance should I watch first if I want an entry point, a good entry point into the filmography?
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>> Well, I love Marsha Mason.
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There's so much happening. >> Yeah.
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>> Um Marsha Mason I was specific to uh my character on Stranger Things in terms of Um but don't touch my hair. I'm sorry. >> be careful.
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>> Um The Goodbye Girl is a really amazing jumping off point.
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Also, there's a really great movie called Audrey Rose with Anthony Hopkins and her that I remember like kind of falling in love with him and um I need to rub I have an itch. What should I do? Like on my face. >> Okay, >> hold on.
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Maybe see how there's clean ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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>> Okay, I'm going to do a >> And then be very careful. There we go. >> Okay.
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So, Marsha Mason, amazing actress.
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She also, oh my god, there's a movie it's called Cinderella Liberty. It's a really good.
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It's takes place in Seattle during the No More and she's a lady of the evening, but a great mom.
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>> Do you remember the Yeah, yeah, make no apologies Winona. You're doing great.
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>> also only when I laugh, she was married to Neil Simon, so she was in all his movies.
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>> Do you remember your earliest core memory of watching a movie that really made an impact on you?
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You know, for better or worse, the first movie I remember watching from beginning to end was Backdraft.
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>> The first time I saw movie in a theater, I ran up and hurled myself at the screen.
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Apparently thinking like that's how to get into the movie.
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>> I think it might have been Fantasia or something.
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>> I can see why you'd want to jump in there, yeah.
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>> All right, Winona, how you feeling?
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We have some more ice cream for you if you'd like it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here you go.
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We have bottomless ice cream over here. Hot ones. How we feeling?
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>> I mean, that was hard. Not going to lie. Oh my god.
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I don't know if I would Wow. Oh, yeah.
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>> I think the key is yeah, to um try to like it's the try to get to the inside of the >> I think the key is to get to the ice cream. You know what I mean? That's what I think.
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I think Winona, the key for you is to get to the chaser, you know? >> Yes. >> You know, yeah. >> Oh my god. >> I know.
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But we're so close to the end.
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We're so close to the end.
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So you know, we talked about it a little bit, but you collect first editions.
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You collect band t-shirts.
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I see what Tom Waits joint on today.
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From Arthur Miller's bank deposit, right?
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To the prop paintings that you took from The Age of Innocence.
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Do you have a favorite keepsake from your own Hollywood career?
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>> I can't believe you know about the Arthur Miller thing. I got so cool.
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Um It also it's like doesn't just say like Earth Earth, it's like call me with exclamation marks.
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Arthur and Inga and >> And would you believe me if I told you we just have one more wing to go?
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>> And this one did you guys make this one? >> We did. We did.
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But if you don't like it >> Yes.
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>> And I'm not going to have you dab it by the way.
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You've been you've been brave enough through this whole thing.
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>> I can't believe Wait, dab it?
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>> Sometimes you put a little extra on the last one, but you've done enough, Winona. All right. >> Okay. >> There we go.
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And with that >> I have to tell you something. >> Sure. Yeah.
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>> Jenna Ortega, who I love so much.
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>> We were talking about some great actor who was retired or like not going to work.
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She was like, "They've done enough."
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No, but it was like very profound.
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Because I feel like as actors we're always >> That's the way I meant it when I said it to you, by the way.
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>> No, like it it really was like I you know like those moments where you really hear >> Yeah.
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>> like something really lands and you're like, >> And I'm saying it to right back at you, Winona Ryder.
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And to close things out, you know, legendary I know.
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Legendary film critic Roger Ebert, he once called your eyes an acting gift, okay?
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Describing them, and I quote, "is powerful enough to make the dimmest simpleton in the audience understand the emotions on screen."
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So, to close things out, what I want to do is put that to the test, okay?
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I'm going to point to a hot sauce.
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I'm going to call out a hot sauce.
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And I want you to try to express the moment of eating that hot sauce through only facial expressions.
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So, you're off to a really great start right now on Thermageddon.
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I have to say, all right?
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>> This one was really hot.
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>> Yeah, yeah, I'm buying it. I'm totally buying it.
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How about the pickled garlic sriracha?
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Remember you did kind of like the sriracha. Ooh, there it is.
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How about the chimichurri habanero?
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I remember you had notes on the chimichurri habanero. Yep, crystal clear.
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You can see it right there.
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How about the Bomb Beyond Insanity? Oh, yeah. I'm buying it.
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And what about a Funken Yellow? There we go.
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And look at you, Winona Ryder, very bravely taking on the Wings of Death, living to tell the tale, making it all the way to the end.
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You should be proud of yourself.
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And now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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>> I am in I think Stranger Things 5. Haven't seen it. Oh my god, my mouth.
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It's just like um from everything It's like all culminating for some reason on this side of my mouth. >> Yeah, yeah. Accumulative effect.
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The world might be tilting a little bit. You know what? >> Oh.
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>> The important thing is YOU MADE IT. >> OH MY GOD.
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I DON'T KNOW how they What I said. I don't know.
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I don't know what happened.
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I just know I'm still alive.
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>> And >> My mouth is >> that you made it to the end. >> What?
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Is that what you're having? Just just on this side?
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>> Hot Ones fans, here it is, your season 28 lineup including the final of our three hot sauces that we dropped to celebrate the 10-year anniversary, The Last Dab Thermageddon.
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To get your hands on Thermageddon and the rest of the characters that make up our season 28 cast, visit hotones. com. That's hotones. com, hotones. com.
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We'll deliver it straight to your door in this box.
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Very convenient, very spicy.
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Please, please, please, just be careful around the eyes.