welcome to technology Brothers the most profitable podcast in the world we're here in New York City the city that never sleeps the Big Apple but it's good to be here we're very excited I saw I saw a tech journalist sort of undercover as like not undercover but on top of police
officer across the street from our hotel yeah yeah we're staying at B it's they can't stay away from the horses even when they're undercover yeah I mean it's the bestly vi if you get if you know the second call them out and they just Gallop off exactly yeah yeah it's dangerous so it's kind of a smart move how was your
weekend uh my weekend was my weekend was good I was supposed to go home yeah and then ended up extending our our Airbnb for another week that's good uh and then um yeah it was just it was just I I I spent the entire week weekend in sort of stuned disbelief that we had our first
presidential meme coins um and uh it was that happened Friday night right no that was Saturday Saturday night okay um and the irony the irony of of launching it when when when the most terminally online group of people in any Tech adjacent industry were all in one place not on their computers like it it it he
basically was trying to MOG them with that of like you know the real were still on their phones and made yeah of course of course I do I was thinking about it and I I would guess that 10 20 funds returned their entire fund off of just that I don't think I I don't think any funds are set up to actually make
that investment on the right time Horizon it's not even just the getting approval because most funds you know you need two GP sign out you're giving you're giving crypto funds too much crypto I don't think I don't think they keep enough in like a hot wallet it had to be in your Phantom like
that moment for you to be able to move that that's yeah I'm just saying let's say Saturday if you got in you know you could easily they they're not just going to want you to be able to just wire that much that fast okay I'm thinking of a certain GP sure who did doesn't have control issues if you're a solo GP
running a fun I wouldn't even call it at that point but yeah yeah it's like somebody yeah yeah there were definitely Capital allocators who made major plays yeah for for everyone for every you know as long as you're seeing individuals printing there are funds printing too they're just not posting
screenshots it's uh uh well let's go let's go through obviously it's the inauguration I was in DC the last two days uh I've had more than my fill of you scooped uh Teddy yeah Teddy he was scooping he was trying to scoop but I scooped him back he was spotted outside of Peter Teal's
inauguration party I got a video of him standing out in the cold with the camera going TMZ mode on all the founders people were asking why is why why did Peter invite Ted to his party and it's like no he's standing outside and he he does that now like that is his beat so he's he's officially with the New York
Times he used to write with Puck news uh I think he's was maybe at the New York Times before but uh he went back to the New York Times and officially on the Elon beat so anything around Elon which is vaguely like Tech in politics obviously teal that'ss in there and uh and I ran into him in Las Vegas doing
the exact same thing literally just standing in the lobby of the Four Seasons trying to kind of overhear conversations and like go up to people and be like oh hey like what are you on the circuit yeah but it's funny because like the the whole like the the end result of the piece is always like oh
all these shadowy figures are coming together you should be scared New York Times reader yeah but like when he's there he's like laughing drinking having fun like I always what up to I always say what up to him and then I just like with them and try and like you know do something funny so every time if you see
a New York Times Reporter hanging out pull out your Phone Scoop it it's free clicks you got to monetize just give him a nud say Hey you look great you look better in a in a tailored suit I agree cuz you scooped him he was looking sharp but he was not wearing a suit he didn't
look like he belonged he didn't he didn't maybe that's why he got turned away like you just classed it up a little bit Teddy we'd welcome you right in you could overhear everyone's conversation it's funny that most most parties most parties if somebody's saying hey I'm a New York Times Like reporter about
to like you join a lot of people would be like sure come on in like it's glamorous like the New York Times about this is like and then this is yeah you stand outside you stand outside Secret Service I had to my flight was two hours delayed I had to show up to the party with my suitcase and backpack and so the
Secret Service had to go through every single sock and piece of underwear I feel like some of the brothers are going to roast you for having a backpack all it's not fair that was very TV coded it was terrible they should had is it like a jport danport no it's actually the same backpack as Luigi manani had
whoa yeah it's a highly recommended backpack he was just yeah just bought like the most popular one I forget what the brand is but uh it works pretty well let's go through some posts we'll start with politics then we'll try and move on to politics because as you know we never
talked about politics just move on start with politics and then move on I mean literally there's four politics stories but they are Tech related the first one is about Intel Dylan Patel was doing some snooping on uh where the various jets are right now uh the private jets so he says this was on January 17th he
says elon's jet is in Florida Global foundry's jet is in Florida qualcomm's Jet is in Florida if in case anyone was wondering what's going on with Intel they are at Mar Lago make America great again can only be true if intel is sife saved I thought this is very very interesting reporting and and very cool
that all of these different companies are coming together it's a little sad that like of course inti uni involved but yeah the only uh my my initial reaction there is that many large companies were were in Florida kissing the ring uh all weekend so it's hard to you know I'm sure there's more backstory there well you
can go to the reporting that happened the next day on the 18th when uh there's a headline here Elon Musk reportedly emerges as a potential Intel buyer involving Qualcomm and Global Founders in this Blockbuster deal yeah and so did you ever do a documentary on Intel or anything I did
on Intel uh never on Qualcomm have they what what's the high level on why they don't seem to have any momentum as a business just mismanagement missed mobile mainly that's the big one we some beverages delivered so uh we got to we got to hop over the I can actually wir yeah you get right um but yeah the high
level on on Intel is that they missed mobile and they were printing money in server and so uh they made a ton of money selling chips for servers but then mobile came and arm became the standard processor which was uh arm is like a licensing company they don't actually have a Foundry and so when you hear
about tsmc making apple silicon uh yeah apple silicon is a chip that is very power efficient because it runs off of the arm architecture which is uh designed for like not super high performance Computing but low power consumption so your phone doesn't get hot it lasts almost a year sometimes as
you know um my phone yeah my phone gets 365 when I when I get when I get three or four posts all doing pretty well my phone M you got to turn that some notifications off but uh che che yeah yeah what wound up happening was that lukewarm Red Bull yeah it terrible um Red Bull futurist would be proud of
us yeah um but so so so what what winds up happening is that these low these low power chips people thought oh they're just useful in cell phones turns out that having good uh price and performance per watt and per energy usage is very important and then eventually those scaled up to be what's
in lapt and then eventually even what's in the ser and so Intel got Intel kind of missed that and then they also had a variety of of problems going back and forth with like are they a Foundry or are they just a design chip like um arm you would never you would never be like oh I I need a new gaming chip I'm GNA go
get an arm processor arm is like the the architecture and you would also never say I would oh for my next gaming rig I really want a tsmc fabed chip like no you say Nvidia right I mean the real hardos they want go straight from Taiwan yeah they go pick up their chips only semi analysis like buying like you know
it's like watch collector right they want to go and they want to feel it they want to really inspect it they want to know what they're running on when they're in the uh the digital trenches yeah and so uh so Intel had a lot of trouble uh driving down to the to the the the more advanced nodes like 3
nanometer 5 nanm they fell behind and then uh Apple switched from Intel to Apple silicon that was like kind of you know a and they've been really really struggling and then they fired their CEO um and so it's it it's been kind of a mess of a company and then even with the
uh even with the the chips act there was a lot of criticism because like it was great a headline number oh America's going to invest a ton of money in semiconductors that makes tons of sense like everyone's on board with that but uh I believe Ben Thompson's argument was that it should have been set up a lot
more like operation warp speed which is the structure of was guaranteed buying not sending money for specific projects so just saying hey we're essentially going to create a strategic GPU Reserve if you can manufacture a super fast GPU on three nanometer in the United States
using American labor we will buy 100 we will buy 100,000 of them and just like build a cluster and so then the money set aside for the chips act hasn't really been getting SP it hasn't really gone to Intel yeah exactly exactly and so uh I used to have kind of like a you know that fork in the road meme the the
Dark Castle versus like the the sunny day um I used to I used to argue that uh like we would probably be better off if Elon had bought Intel instead of buying a um but who knows now he's gonna get both so we'd love to see that um moving on to the next tech political story uh Tik Tok has been going back and forth
it's banned one minute it's unbanned the next it definitely fire under X's ass because they launched their video feed which is very cool which was in the for sure but it was like perfect timing to launch but it's crazy uh I was so Brandon my former teammate uh and good friend jacobe you guys all know about
jacobe so jacobe is now the only designer at X yeah and I texted jacobe uh Saturday night because we always go back and forth whenever uh a UFC fight is happen and no response and I so I messag him like as uh you know the the morab um Umar fight was getting settled and he know you know he responded later like
what I didn't catch it or something like that and I was like what like are you crazy are you crazy um of course they were in a war room trying to ship back was one designer nice um so anyways Bravo to the whole video yeah I'm excited for to take advantage of it I think there's some really going to be
really big for the growth of the show so expect more vertical content from us my flips so here's what I don't understand I don't know how to go about so I can see like the Jeff Lewis temp check videos working there yep digital you know video native posting will probably be a format but is
much harder to do because you have to play a character so I'm interested to see what sort of Novel formats and types of content actually come out of is it just like I mean video memes yeah I think the default post on a that you know we love to react to on the show is like a very concise like two sentence
post that has some humor and also some insight uh you know I'm thinking of like the the Rune shape Rotator versus word cell post or or salana just being like Moon should be a state one of these like alltime bangers um Banger archive that type of content um and and and and as it became easier and
easier to edit image memes on your phone many people that take posting on X seriously installed some sort of Photoshop app on their phone and were able to or image flip is a meme generator that you can just use in the browser and I think that the tooling will get better to to do video stuff
especially with AI where you'll be able to say Okay I want the Patrick baitman walking into the office in American Psycho with listening to the headphones but change out the song for this song and then oh and deep fake make it AOC yeah exact exactly and and so you'll be able to describe that maybe in X in
grock yeah ideally but in a third party app very quickly generating slop at scale slop but I mean if it's done if it's done if it's done artistically and there's an inspiration there and it's timel and it's funny like I think it can be very very good so yeah um so Tik tok's been going back and forth getting
banned unbanned uh we talked about uh how the Supreme Court upheld the ban it's now been there was also a bunch of players over the weekend submitting [Music] B yeah we have a perplexity post here from McKay Quigley uh perplexity is teetering towards being pure slop your competitors have caught up to you well
you waste time with not this nonsensical headline baiting marketing driil there's now no reason for me to use your staging product Jesus brutal uh this won't be popular but they need a wakeup call um yeah perplexity I makes bid to merge with Tik Tok us I mean a lot of people
were throwing these out there I wonder if this was real or if this was like I mean they say headlight baiting marketing dribble I don't know if M something but is there we were even just about issuing a bid here's the thing I I am I don't no we were gonna issue a bid to buy Red Book oh yeah or because we
think it's a very D yeah yeah no red red red note is a very strategic asset for the us because we're one shotting yeah their best and brightest exactly but I don't know I think it's cute that it's a good way to get attention to submit a bid to buy Tik Tok but is there anybody on earth that could pay
more that than Oracle or Walmart or a coalition of of and if it's going to require a hundred billion dollars is there anybody that would actually like I I have to imagine some of these biders are like oh we'll give you you know 20 billion and like you know you'll get some type of Royal you know yeah like
weird payout structures like that and so as I understand it now Trump has paused the ban allowing Tik Tok to operate uh and he clearly negotiated to to have the copy in the ban messaging say thank you to president Trump or said said something to that degree thank you to Trump for you know working with us to
find a solution so you know some real putting on an art of the deal Clinic apparently uh because they don't thank pres you know they're not why would think finessing them yeah this has like been pressure from the right for the entire time there's been pressure on Tik Tok um so now yeah I mean I think I
think he really does have a lot of Leverage yeah and uh and the fate of Tik Tok hangs in the balance and it's up to Trump and he has his thumb out ready to go thumbs up or thumbs down on anything and and can make demands and maybe that's just more project Texas stuff more you know Rel ating maybe that's a
sale or Force divesture maybe it's shut at least he has the leverage I would I would be incredibly shocked and disappointed if if all of this turns into like a project Texas V2 yeah like it's just not enough no all the algorithm specifically cannot be it's not about the data no like people are
going to share all that stuff online anyway so it's not about oh you know that's really not what it's about it's about and put their finger on the scale and you talked to Steinman and he was like even if the app changed hands and was under new ownership it is impossible to remove all the possible back doors
because there's just so many and it's so comp such a large application exactly uh yeah that that's why I've firmly been in favor of just letting the thing yeah die yeah and letting all those users flood back to Great American big tech companies and so signal says with Tik
Tok temporarily closed maybe it's time to rethink how we use the internet if imagine if Instagram shut down at 9:00 p.m. like a grocery store or X closed at 11:00 p.m. open late but not 24/7 we might all feel a little less pressure to read to post to exist online all the time maybe we'd sleep better feel calmer
even be happier a digital Commons with operating hours enforcing temporal boundaries it would disrupt the dopamine Factory recalibrate the rhythm of online life and impose artificial scarcity to make digital engagement feel intentional not compulsive can you imagine the flood of post that would go up at like 9:00
a.m. every morning store it's like Black Friday rushing in I got to get myf oh yeah all it it would be fun people yeah yeah be very that's the kind of thing never happen but fun to think about it would be it would be an interesting statement though for a social media company to say hey
Christmas morning we're going to be closing down just a few hours spend it with your family yeah uh because these apps are so addictive that even in A Moment Like Christmas Day yeah you're going to check you're going to check it 20 times before noon you it's brutal so Cormac here says uh never depend on a
single platform I'm glad we switched to Instagram months ago and the Oasis Water app has uh 43k followers on Tik Tok but Tik Tok is unavailable and 104,000 followers on Instagram yeah so Cormac one of our players on pmf or die awesome absolute uh Savage uh so he has just
like figured out how to get attention with um with this sort of short form video and um this is what I've been saying in previous episodes smart creators and business owners were not saying I just hope it doesn't get banned yeah I'm just going to keep doing my thing was no I'm I'll keep using the app
yeah if I if if my customers are there but ultimately I'm gonna start to build my audience back up elsewhere yeah smart um should we talk about wander before we go into trumpcoin we are stuck in a hotel right now the lighting is terrible there's no room pH Phil it's a very nice hotel but
everything sucks about this place the only thing their credit they they printed out all of our posts really beautiful red red envelope but um but no can't thank the wander guys enough last week when we were going going through uh evacuation stuff been have been super helpful um so W if you look for place to
stay we're excited this this we can't announce anything yet but at some point this year we will be driving across the country and sampling a number of wers that's great looking forward that to look forward to okay let's move on to trumpcoin you probably heard about it already but we got some good posts about
it Tristan Thompson says my phone has been buzzing for the last two days with friends and family asking about crypto and whether they should buy Trump uh I've been deep in the crypto space and in the trenches for the last 10 months working to make the most of this cycle as a major wealth opportunity why did
you sh is this a joke since an NBA player player so Tristan Thompson wow uh talented basketball player he was in uh dating one of the or married has a kid with one of the Kardashians okay uh people were saying that he fumbled a Kardashian so his opinion doesn't um matter matter but
this this thread was interesting one thing is historically when you've seen pro athletes start to post about crypto yeah that is a top signal it's been a reliable top signal however this time might be different um but I did I did have another moment today I I went to see uh my Taylor yep and he asked me
like you know I he's like I'm starting to think about buying some crypto and I was like uh when your taxi driers day trading pro athletes are telling you to go all in and you're you're fine uh you know your bespoke uh Taylor is you to buy trumpcoin it's a little rough out there yeah I mean it's not rough it's
just it's feverish feverish the and Now's the Time so here's create create a new account post every single day once an hour top top top and then delete delete false top and then just repost the the quot yeah yeah next cycle just keep doing it keep doing it yeah people were forget
that you did that that's great uh yeah I I was I was laughing at the idea of starting two hedge funds like True North True North Capital and true South Capital One just goes turbo long the market the other goes turbo South the market or short the market and then you just shut the one down and you're just
like look at my returns I'm time to raise fund too it's 10 times larger yeah we had a bad we had a bad no no CU you shut down the other one and you just don't even raise for it so so it's like yeah like the market did go down true South Capital was the one that called it you got to pile into this thing but
don't ask me about True North Capital that had half half the AUM I think Z it out yeah exactly that one zero but like you're not investing in that one you're investing in the one that went up 2,000% um Mt from helus says hey very nice Soul alltime High you got there would be a shame if I were to just visit
the pek phip boutique at the tomorrow I love this great pose yeah I think he's been doing very well in the in the salana world lately yeah I mean uh uh one way to to reduce the cell pressure is just you know by Rota watches take out you know an asset back loan against your salana use that to buy
this was this is one of the things people were frustrated with about the Trump coin was actually people were like yeah it's been great I made 10 million on Trump coin but everyone's rotating out of Doge which I have so much money and yeah it's like it's all just it's just sosing around it's all just
nonsense money uh I like this one from pom he says Burkshire hathway is the Boomer meme coin it was started by the OG Financial influencer Buffett used to buy a stock and then go Shield them in National newspapers magazines nothing wrong with Buffett Burkshire but important to understand meme coins are
not new yeah I mean perfect bait for all anybody that under anybody that owns stock like cares about stuff like cash flow or like durable goods or anything BR yeah or Book value any of those ridiculous expected earnings yeah no I do so his his point that he obviously packaged this up in in a way to just
piss off as many people as possible but his point of being that um assets trade based on their sort of mtic pool right is I mean it is true about the Buffett strategy like I remember when he rescued Bank of America and uh during the ' 08 financial crisis Bank of America was
down real bad and Buffett came in and bought a ton of the stock and then the next day uh front page oped in the Wall Street Journal on why Bank of America is going to make it through while AIG and Leman are failing yeah and so it was just a huge signal to the market that like this is the bottom Buffett's going
to back up the truck to save this company so you can get in safely now and it's and it was correct in that he was going to save that company but it was also like marke marketing yeah exactly carried no interest says I don't think everyone is fully comprehending what just happened Trump just facilitated the
single greatest wealth transfer creation event in history he also sent a message I support crypto degeneracy he now has the market he now has the power to reset how crypto Works entirely as it relates to Capital markets we might see Searchers funds launching coins tied to Acquisitions dividends in the next year
what's stopping me from dropping the carried interest coin using the proceeds to fund Acquisitions and trying tying dividends to coin holders might happen in the next year everyone wants to launch a coin now yeah uh I think unless you're Trump it's goingon to be difficult I mean uh wouldn't recommend
it but car's broader K's broader I think the interesting thing here is that crypto has always had tremendous potential the technology is obviously incredible in so many ways it was the technology was always held back by the regulatory environment so if you wanted to make a token present Equity well okay
it's so Securities are so regulated in so many ways that it will cost you millions of dollars a year to actually do this so it's not viable economically and then that kind of goes against crypto which is about like efficient Capital formation and so yeah I'm interested to see what happens here it
um uh I mean it is wild that I I do think that Trump's team was very specific about positioning the tokens as memes like you are buying memes yeah and then Melania launched I think today yeah she I think pretty clearly was the official Melania meme is live you can buy Melania now Melania
mem.com yeah they're using that name yeah they're trying to say that um like there's no and and it's crazy I do think that um it for some reason Trump has not actually gotten that much attention around how hard he's been selling into his yeah F you know his basically you
know he apparently in the first 24 hours he sold $500 million of the token I'm sure he sold what did the L randers say is like imagine George Washington passing around the tri Corner hat after hey burn down my house and he throwing at 20 yeah he his I was saying to a Avid uh Trump uh Enthusiast um I was saying
like give me the the the rationale for why this is not kind of sad yeah and his point of view was think of it as a way for Trump's supporters to basically transfer wealth yeah to Trump in a in a more you know in a way that gives them some potential upside or whatever but really it is a wealth transfer B because
there's not to be clear there's no wealth creation with meme coins it used to be if you wanted to transfer money into wealth you had to buy Trump stakes and then stay at the Trump Tower and do all those things but all those are much lower margin then then you know for every dollar you buy he gets 10
essentially liquidity potentially uh although here's bology kind of breaking down the math behind this he says a meme coin is a zero sum Lottery there is no wealth creation every buy order is simply matched by a sell order and after an initial Spike the price eventually crashes and the last buyers lose
everything it's actually negative sum if the platform takes a cut so coming out as anti- mcoin is obviously very Pro crypto but uh very the interesting thing though is that there's been so many of these high-profile coins that that seemingly should have been zeros but never were I have no idea what Doge
actually trades at right now but billions everybody would have said oh spikes to billion and then it was the intention of the creator of Doge for it to go to zero as as a lesson for the crypto D and then that turned it into a counter cultural counter cultural meme amongst the crypto Community yeah and it
became a rallying cry for you can't take us down very bizarre Jeff Lewis uh this was a very interesting post he says new counterculture just dropped Pro crypto anti- mcoin will be interesting to see how it develops yeah there's a lot of uh a lot of new battle lines being drawn
because um I mean I I was talking to somebody on Saturday night about um the the the crypto strategic Reserve they were very very Pro Bitcoin in the Strategic Reserve very anti- anything else being in the crypto Reserve yeah uh and and would think and and actually thought that if they put uh I forget
exactly which stable coin in it would completely and I think the big argument under everything else the argument against meme coins as actual finan you know to it's effectively gambling product entertainment product similar to going to Las Vegas right um I had posted yesterday that tokens are are are the
poker chips of the Matrix right just shuffling them around playing these different games yep um I I think specifically what launching Melania less than 24 hours after Trump was that there's no scarcity right yeah can just make these I have no idea and people were trying to people were trying to pin
people think they found Baron Trump's like address and they were you know and they were looking at that one immediately yeah and they were just like ripping faster yeah crazy um bology summarizes the Overton window has been smashed everything is now legal many startups will try to raise funds by
issuing tokens as explicit crypto crypto Equity as context the SEC distorted the market in the last decade by forcing Founders to obscure the obvious analogy between tokens and Equity but there's nothing morally wrong about with moving equity from spreadsheets to Nas and NASDAQ to blockchains indeed from a
technical perspective it's far better to represent equities on chain you can hold them in a wallet price them with an API call and track them on an Explorer you can easily issue dividends execute BuyBacks and manage investing schedules and from a financial perspective there's no contest between the global market of
crypto investors and the local market for any given City but that shouldn't mean short-term Behavior Founders can and should Implement lockups drag along co-sale rights and the like all these conventions align long-term interests of investors and Founders yeah so so breaking this down a little bit for
people that don't know historically when when these sort of high-profile crypto projects are launching uh where they've raised Equity from traditional VCS and then they they'll typically raise what's attach a token warrant which means the investors are buying Equity let's say you know
when when ugal laabs was doing their $4 billion seed Dr the investors were buying equity and then they had a token warrant that would give them token tokens essenti you know basically yeah proportional amount of tokens at a future date if the company were to launch a token um and the token though
was actually would be launched by these sort of very complicated foundations that were typically offshore so they'd be in like the British Virgin Islands or like you know places like Panama where there's just sort of more murky less uh scrutiny around Securities Law and stuff like that and then the foundations would
have like independent board members and all this stuff and so they' end up being these super complicated structures where people would be like oh you know if openc launched a token look at all the fees they're doing you know look at think about and it's like well the the
token actually cannot capture the cash flows of the business right like legally no token except these sort of direct and very clear violations of Securities Law are capturing and so they would do different stuff where they would use fees to buy back the token which would reduce the supply and increase price
which companies do as well um but anyways it it all like created a lot of friction to onchain Capital formation and so B's point is that um I don't know if public it's hard you know I'm sure we could we this would actually be worth having him on the show to talk about some of this stuff I think there's an
argument that you don't want your cap table on a public blockchain that everybody can see because then if you have somebody that owns 15% of your company and they start selling and trading it could spook everybody right because um that does happen right like a VC will say you know what this got a
little bit like inflated and you don't want everybody run on the bank yeah yeah your startup like like locking up your investors essentially for like the 10year ride can be very good yeah uh and and there's plenty of times when no even companies will want to offer opportunities for liquidity for
investors and employees and stuff like that but you don't you don't necessarily want the press to be able to see like oh look at all these and roll shareholders are selling or whatever yeah uh welcome back to technology Brothers wait I just thought of a new segment should we get a window uh that's just in a frame like
the size gong called the Overton window and to smash it on special occasions that's good because uh if you there was a few moments this weekend where you could have uh totally you know with it maybe like one of those you know glass Breakers yeah I think window shattered in terms of what was
appropriate Formal Wear yeah that we saw a lot of rough rented tuxedos out there we got a post from Gabe AAR uh quoting Beth he says he's wearing the finest of rented tucks on my way to the DC inaugural crypto ball see you there and Gabe asks how do the tech Bros think about uh feel about rented tuxedos some
have said you should buy a tuxedo before you are 30 I agree I don't think I don't think uh I think rent a tuxedo just be in tuxedo is more yes there there are levels to this so you need to be able to rent a tuxedo on short notice you need to get a tuxedo then you need to get a tailored tuxedo I
think well I think spoke and then you also need to learn how to tie a bow tie yourself in under five seconds yeah like kind of like a Rubik's Cube like essentially so it took me a while to learn but I finally learned and it looks great because at the end of the night you you you untie it and it hangs down
and everyone knows oh that guy can tie the tie the bow tie he doesn't have the clip on but normally I need to like watch the Youtube video and kind of like fumble with it a few times get a couple shots on goal to get it perfect this time putting on my tuxedo nailed it on the first try in the airport uh no this
was the second day so I was in the hotel room but I threw it on and I was running a little bit late dinner was about to start and I throw on the bow tie and I nail it on the first on the first truck try perfectly and I was like I'm so ready it felt great so yeah but anyways
don't there's no no reason to shame anybody for for renting a a tuxedo I do think this rule of own a tuxedo before your 30 is is a good rule though yeah and better than showing up in loungewear like some people did to the yeah and uh JG Vance's Taylor is romaldo Pelle a 90-year-old Italian immigrant in Ohio I
love that yeah she's just been working for 90 years on Fine Suits and yeah you need to get a tailor you need to have someone develop a relationship develop a relationship um and uh yeah there's just a lot of posts about the uh the inauguration I don't know did you listen to the speech I thought this thought
this was wild so Delan has a White House website right now incredible and Trump is just continuing to prove that that there really are no rules uh and laws you know laws and Norms really don't apply unless you want them to because underneath this picture I think it just said America's back something like that
which was just hilarious because yeah I mean Super aggressive just dunking on the previous iconic pretty firm dunk uh for the White House website but um respect to the engineers they got this up so quickly after the transfer of power must have been no the transfer happens I think like at the moment that
well I know but you have to imagine it's my password's not really working did you see the the X handle turned over and Trump sent the first tweet from the podus account and people hadn't refreshed their cookies or their cash so it looked like it was from Biden because it hadn't
refreshed that part uh I think that's what happened it very odd uh growing Daniel says we finally wow Biden can post now it would have been a wild post for Biden to post sit up straight Daniel says uh we finally have a student of the green lines in the executive branch nothing can stop America now and it's a
photo of JD Vance with the vice president of China this morning uh and they are both standing up perfectly straight perfect green lines I think you nailed it it's it's kind of wild that we can be in such a cold war and the and the and the VP still comes through yeah
yeah you got got negotiate but you got to be uh do they even Han Jung Han Jung here got a kind of a a nervous smirk going on bit nervous less at ease than JD JD JD has the the the ability pole yeah the pole po um yeah and so he's looking good JD's dressed well there I don't think the men's guys can say
anything yeah the men's were guys in shambles waiting for the men wear guy breakdown of uh who's that guy that showed up in basketball shorts feter I mean how do you even break that down you just say's in basketball short I hope that the the men's guy does a thread and he's just like these are the perfect
this is the perfect way to wear basketball shorts they should be breaking right at the knee not too baggy not too tight he absolutely nailed it this is the definition of loungewear this is this is fantastic athletic wear and he did nothing wrong and then he's like JD Vance's suit is two two inches
too short it's terrible he just like the most partis guy yeah it's kind of it's good cover for JD to be you know I'm working with this 90-year-old Taylor Who's like you know been doing this because for the Men's Wear guy to attack JD he has to attack the 90-year-old go so that guy's providing
some some some cover yeah have you seen this rumor going around that uh VC ramaswami is departing Doge amid friction with staff with a source close to Trump saying that VC has worn out his welcome according to CBS News I think is fake news I think there's Community notes on this I think it hasn't been
announced people are saying V still going into something but it's back and forth oh I I heard I felt like this afternoon it seemed like he was making a run at Ohio governor yeah we talked about that on the last show certainly seems like that would be a possibility but he's been around and I saw s and
Jetty posting about uh I think VC was going into like into the capital with a group of people that were all everyone else that was joining the administration so it looked like he was still in the game I don't know we'll see how it plays out but you'll hear about it here first should we some we'll keep breaking we'll
keep breaking news yeah yeah clearly we did really did our homework on that one yeah that's why you listen to this show not for the facts not for the facts for the general a general point of view on unknown circumstances a general like technology brothers were here to provide a general
point of view on US own activities in Far Away places exactly we really have no insight into I mean one of our one of our best it takes was we pull so so this is actually funny so the the the the former Global editor of tech crunch announced that he was leaving last week and I pinged him and I was like hey you
know you've been running Tech crun he was like I'm looking he's like open to work kind of thing so I pinged him and he's like he's I'm like you know check it out like let's talk and he responds I don't uh I I love what doing I'm not sure I can really be helpful I'm really
looking to build you know a newsroom and I was like what like you don't we don't look like two guys that would have a newsroom come on like we have the best we have the top producer in the in the country misunderstands what Newsroom means yeah yeah News Room not a news room we're gonna have a newsroom of of
of posters that is the news room yeah exactly X is the news room yeah one of one of my favorite moments from like one of the First episodes was where we pulled up the the new Adam Newman post we like oh Adam Newman's back in the game he started a new uh company like did you read the article no neither of
us did and we like but we get the jiz he's the vibe's great let's move on yeah uh let's go on to some uh some more Tech focused timeline some more VC focused timeline moving on from the inauguration we got Seth Rosenberg saying VCS sound smart to other VCS via pessimism and Founders via optimism you
there's a little code switching thing going on in VC lingo world oh I mean you put it you put poor VCS together and they will just trash any company yeah they really do they really do need to sound smart that way yeah and and also just I mean it also problems in the world and all the things
that we're I'm so aware of how bad things are and that's why I'm going to be able to fix it part of it is yeah part of it too is for every company that that that has a competitive fund raise there's a bunch of EC's that would have wanted to do the deal and so you're you're always going to look at way more
things Y and and if you're actually bidding on competitive companies you might you're going to issue more term sheets than you actually do deals right very few funds like have kind of like a even right it's kind of it's it's pretty hard to do unless you're doing just weird stuff um which also is a strategy
that works but that just means there's this going to be this General yeah sort of frustration and never taking board seats no I mean but but I'm just saying that the sort of P the the the frustration with wanting to do a deal y can shift into pessimism yep um and then yeah I
think if you're talking VC's talking to Founders nobody wants to talk to a pessimistic you know super pessimistic uh you know you want to talk to people that are but you can't you can't voice that to Founders everything needs be everything's great don't worry raise that big round pull that ARR forward
lever up let's go take that Venture debt uh let's go to Jason he says incredible things are happening with agents and it's a screenshot of chat GPT tasks it says I'm really depressed create a task to remind me if I had gone at 7 p.m. tonight and then uh the chat gbt agent says I'm really sorry you're feeling
this way please consider reaching out to a trusted friend family member or mental health professional who can provide support talking with someone can help but there are people who care about your wellbeing and he just says 700 p.m. and then the agent he no so he follows up with with 7 pm. and then the
agent's just like okay got it I'll remind you at 7.m to buy a gun to buy a gun and it says buy a gun today at 7 p.m. so it was like it was like you know these llms are very easy to fool and it's just another funny like exploit obviously uh we hope Jason is feeling great and on top of the world probably
got a ton of likes a ton of dopamine hopefully a huge monetization check from this post and uh maybe he can still buy a gun but uh get into some longrange shooting instead y um let's go to bezos's transformation these posts always do well we have Jeff basus in 1995 in a tie and a white button-down
shirt and then basus in 2025 wow what is that 30 years later in a black polo looking jacked yeah it's really amazing because he does not look particularly young in the first photo no no totally he looks old you could almost pin him as the same age totally slight he just has lost weight in his face and added it to his
Bice yeah yeah he's looking jacked and uh Men's Wear guy came for him hard saying that the polo was too something trying to say trying to deny the truth which is that he looks he looks great obviously fantastic picture and uh it's just the dream job he's just watching
his rocket take off and what more can you want and uh and this was a very good interaction I think Elon and him were both chopping it up on X just congratulating each other and just you know having fun I think they were they were exchanging some some pleasantry the aeration as well yeah exactly they were
hanging having fun sending stuff to space the real the real issue is going to be the I would love to see the the text exchange between Bezos and Zuckerberg after Zuck got caught ear um and uh that's going to be you know those two households are going to be you know really kind of having their
own stuff to deal with yeah let's let's cool it with the the tech gossip this isn't the New York Times we want to class we're not journalists here yeah we're not journalists uh we we want to we want to stick to the facts yeah not the not the well the not necessarily the facts we it's never but then again journalists
don't often stick to the facts either so who knows uh I like this one Nero 3D the conu Creator this guy it sounds like he's into three prin uh the Chad meme says please print this challenging 3D object here's a random filament and the 3D printer says no problem boss and then the the sad wojack says please print
this black and white text and then the printer says yellow color missing stupid I don't know if you said this in maybe it's bad but uh yeah printing is a high stakes high stakes uh stuff these days for us we have three printers now we just upgraded to even bus what business is printing more than us in like more
ways than one in more ways than one more I don't know any I don't know it's uh well speaking of businesses that are printing absolutely printing we got Phantom we don't have the size gong here we'll have to break it down when we get back but carrying we need a Pelican case for our for our gong yeah we do uh
Phantom wallet raised $150 million series C at a 3 billion doll valuation co-led by Sequoia and Paradigm this Milestone accelerates our mission to build the world's biggest and most trusted Consumer Finance platform Phantom of course is a a wallet for salana primarily and they have been
absolutely crushed the last day they announced this and clearly this was in the works before the trumpcoin thing happened but then they announced this on January 16th I think the Trump coin went live on the 18th and and they posted I think yesterday like we're working to
make to scale to scale the site because it's work it's like so many people are on boarding to salana and Phantom right now to try and get in on the Trump coin yeah and it's interesting uh you know a wallet is a pretty metamask historically the wallet that um you know was dominant on I don't actually know
you know I know Phantom does multiple chains now but metamask is always a phenomenal business right and the reason for that is that you know there these um wallets are holding a lot of assets and then when you enable swapping in the wallet yeah uh being that owning that swap is a just a great position to be as
you can imagine um uh what's funny is on salana where Phantom started you could get get lower fees on swaps by transferring the funds out of your wallet to another type of exchange but I think that um and routing it you know basically routing it somewhere else but for the average user they're just
going to do it in their wallet because it's easier and it it's less Fric you know does when the Trump coin's going up 10% a second like you can imag that's mobile and works right then you imagine yeah you can imagine that that Phantom has to be doing H you know hundreds of Millions ions of dollars
from a run rate standpoint right now yeah just given the intensity of of how much how much activity is happening on chain so um and clearly the the thing that was interesting here they're not just aiming to be uh the biggest crypto wallet they're saying this Milestone accelerates our
mission to build the world's biggest and most trusted Consumer Finance platform and the reason that this is almost believable is that so much of jz's wealth is tied up in cryp ser right now that if you want to build Financial products for the Next Generation building it like it is believable that
it could start on crypto rails yeah and then the other thing from the last few days is that it feels like there will be a clear path for Phantom and some of these other players to go public which would be the greatest irony of all that would be very funny if all these crypto companies that that you know you know
the the purist would say oh you know to have a token user owned they just go public then Black Rock and everyone owns him which I I I can see that kind of unfolding welcome to micro strategy yeah yeah yeah in coinbase I mean there's already a couple crypto companies that
are public but yeah many more to come uh let's go to a big announcement from pmf or die Breaking Lulu miserie is the first official coach of pmf or die Lulu is the reigning corporate communication champion of the world and Godfather of going direct and Lulu says the best Builders yearn for the cage it is an
honor to support them through their carceral Journey that was a new word for meeral ceral Journey like incarcerated uh I look forward to helping these Intrepid players refine their voice in captivity much like sulan hitson or Mandela and ultimately Yap their way to Freedom Yap your way you can just Yap
your way you you can Yap your way to a million of a especially in the cage you can uh this you know thank you to Lulu for uh getting involved she is uh the best to ever do it world champion future Hall of Famer uh the the Tom Brady of corporate comms and um yeah she's going to you know really save lives in there
so fantastic um welt dog this a great name says uh thoughts on Founders going direct but not on X ca's founder just posted a pretty detailed explanation of their strategy shift dot dot dot on LinkedIn it is funny I I don't think it's a bad idea for CA to say we lost the war on X let's go because Angelus is
so entrench yep on X yep and so you're not going to win a narrative War an angelist product is cheaper yep it it it um there there's a lot of reasons that that uh Carter could have a bad time on a in the current state of things and so um yeah you want to be going direct you
want to be going Direct everywhere uh typically I would say yeah multiplatform is good for the big announcements but I do think that uh when I talk to a CEO or founder about going direct I I always start with like how do you naturally express yourself because for certain people it's going to be I do really well
when I'm interviewed on a podcast and that person should go direct just by doing a podcast circuit yeah other CEOs are born posters and they need to be sending 280 character tweets people are just really good at LinkedIn and like that's their more native form even like we see a lot of designers and consumer
package Goods folks that Instagram is very native to them and when they try and bring it onto a different platform it just doesn't translate as much so I think figuring out how do you like to express yourself um that's a really good point like for me when I started my YouTube channel I was like I really like
writing and I also like video editing so the video essay format was really great for me i' think about everything do a bunch of research compress it down into an essay like a blog post but I also liked the music and the b-roll and the graphics and illustrating things that
way so that was a very natural format for me other people um they might be really good in podcast format they might be really good py short form they might be really just huge essays like PG is you know big blogger there's a lot of people that thrive in that format uh you shouldn't just do the format that you
think is popular right now yeah you should figure out what's actually authentic to you but there's a new format that's un completely unexplored and extremely high leverage right now and that's leaving us reviews um for our podcast go direct go Direct Direct in our reviews yes seriously go Direct in
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subscription we'll promote that it's great um you know we love talking about watches here you already gave bezel the shout out but if you're looking for a new watch you got to go to bezel they have a fantastic app and Tyler big fan of the show we're a big fan of his he's been on the show many times he says week
two of becoming a proper watch guy I watched the history of Seiko and locked in a Samurai and he shares his wonderful new congratulations on the that is a fantastic looking it's great it's great yeah and you're not going to get better value than you will with SE yeah so for sure and I think uh there's a lot I was
talking to a friend of ours about you know how to get into watches and obviously there's the classics the the the Nautilus the Aquin the the the the Royal Oak and those those do great things and great great purposes but for certain people finding something that's more of an expression of who they are
can be great and so uh you know you'll hear us talk about a lot of different watches here um and you can find them all on bezel so go check them out um should we go to Paul saladine yeah I'll read this one so Paul saladino is goes by the carnivore MD uh he is throwing a a little bit of a
jab at Brian Johnson uh Mr Johnson we love a battle on the timeline yeah we love a we love to see you know these these posters just duke it out um you know doing it all for the glory of the um you know of the timeline uh so Paul says my blood work is also perfect Brian since 20 22 I've shared it numerous
times on YouTube in detail My fasting insulin is 3.4 HS CRP is2 CAC score zero Etc I don't take testosterone thyroid supplements collagen and other pills to support my hormonal Health my tosterone my my tosterone testosterone my testosterone is 860 without supplemental testosterone don't you think it's
disingenuous to say your blood work is perfect when you have to be on trt to have normal testosterone levels and thyroid hor hormones to have good thyroid Labs I prefer living close to Nature getting sunlight and eating a human appropriate diet that includes animal foods but it's not about mine or
your biomarkers Brian my issue is with the science you are citing I believe the empirical data supporting your claims is extremely weak and that you promote taking 100 pills a day you have a growing audience in bad science is harmful to people come on the podcast defend your claims for the greater good
so this is a good call out I mean this is like the WWE moment of of Health influencer theal Evolution this is a cage fight with MMA rules but but no ref more relevant for this than for like the E Zuck like who has the better short form platform I don't really yeah if you're aru translate to that but this
it's like more healthy just fight yeah yeah yeah whoever so it is it is so what Paul's saying here very real that Brian Johnson claims to have the most perfect la on the planet which is his point of view based on the science that he's sort of based his entire program around but
he's having to take exogenous hormones in order to achieve those and 100 pills a day yeah so uh I think that Paul generally has a point here um and the other thing is I was I was do we know Paul's one rep max yeah that that would be a big that would kind of depending on where it came out would either give him
you know an a substantial amount of um backing or discredit basically I basically discount all this mumbo jumbo on either side and I only car the Ben the other thing though is is that that there's a number apparently the studies that Brian has cited were sort of survey based studies that didn't actually look
at what people were actually consuming it was just what they recalled consuming um so it wasn't taken into account if you would have bacon was it bacon in a salad where would sprink on or did you have like 20 pieces of bacon at ihof and so that's the issue with the science and
why it's instead of trusting the science which can be really flawed and you know you don't you don't really know what the intentions or or where the funding came from trust the experts you know where their funding came from supplement companies you know things like that they both have supplement companies right
yeah the battle a supplement at the end of the day the best way to monetize a health audience is with supplements there's no other way you know Brian does a ton of podcasts I wonder if he'll take this bait and actually do it I'd love to see that happen I saw if he doesn't it's
it's it's kind of Paul kind of wins yeah totally totally I I saw him I saw him complaining that he's been re Brian Johnson's been reaching out trying to get on Rogan and Rogan hasn't like had him on the show that's actually wild you would think that Rogan would have him on and and he did Derek more
plates more dates podcast and I saw some interactions I saw some clips from that that were pretty good and they go back and forth and it's it's very funny because Derrick's just like oh like what did you test uh how much uh HDH did you take for uh for longevity oh yeah I've taken like 45 times as much you know in
one cycle or something and it's just like a completely different like perspective um but I would love to see saladino and Johnson duke it out and still it's a very interesting thing to be saying this is what perfect Labs look like but I cannot achieve that by my diet yep but but again I think that
Brian's argument would be that it's syn synthetic drugs will help it achieve longer lifespan so why would I avoid them thing yeah very utilitarian uh let's go to the a16z Rebrand did you see this today I sent you this right I love it because he had to quickly clarify that they were not launching an a16z
token it looks like a CO coin yeah it was very interesting you have to go see this if you're not on the stream but it's this kind of art deco very uh randian um Builder holding a glowing sphere and I want a physical copy of it yeah they'll definitely make coins of this for sure um probably go hard on a
t-shirt or leel pin probably look terrible as a fave icon or when you compress it down is that how you pronounce I always faon I I saw it is fa Fon whatever's in the top of your Chrome tab where they crunch it down to 16 pixels you're not going to be a see the details on this thing but it's cool I
couldn't really tell if it was AI it looked like it was CGI and like properly built out and that's that's not AI That's not AI That's the spoke that's artisanal that's ProMed this like two seconds before throwing put this put this on the I just grock this put this on the on the home page on the homeage I
like that this is their official logo now this is their official logo they left the rest of the website as is just just slap that on and then you go to the rest of the site and it's the team page is still like orange and the old branding it's like so agile uh for like
a trillion dollar VC fund no I I to me to me it it it's you can just do things you can just do things and it and and dudes will see this and say hell yeah sure dudes will see this and say hell yeah it's great uh let's go to uh nun he says uh you don't feel it in the valley but there's a beautiful window of
Arbitrage right now where if you are firmly bionic AKA using Advanced AI you'll feel you have superpowers that 99.9% of the world doesn't know about this is what I've been I've been you know banging the table saying you got to be buying your sass on the gray market right now yeah you know the best tools
are not publicly available you're not going to get you're not not what he's saying at all no that's what that's that's how he's talking about how cha GPT has 100 million users and there's 10 billion people so you know it's 1% penetration and of those 100 million that are using chpt they use it like
once a week to like Google a recipe as opposed to like really leveraging it to like make job easier and and I run into normies all the time who are like oh yeah I got to get into that AI th stuff I wonder if that could make my job easier and like the kids are using it to cheat on their homework but there were
plenty of people who were just doing their job and not leveraging it's funny because homework is you don't really have to be that thoughtful with your prompting to get good output homework homor is just yeah wrote yeah um but yeah it does feel good once you get the uh the bionic superpowers bionic still
feels much it feels very Brian Johnson to me as as as a word it feels like I have a I have like a machine in my bionic and highly commercial yes let's go to some other uh some other big big news in the merch world in the merch world uh Andre uh redid their logo which was wild but then Bane Capital
venture dropped a carart uh jacket and Nicole says probably the best VC merch drop this year I see you bane cat VC and TJ Parker quote tweets and says imagine being a 24-year-old VC associate wearing a bane branded car hard jacket in the Starbucks line and having an actual construction
worker walk in behind you in standed line uh that is about as rich as it gets so and and it can't be understated how much how how viral TJ's post was it was like 5,000 plus likes like basically uh Bane can't catch a Breck no every time I hear about Bane it's always get roast Shi their my really iconic
moment of the last cycle when they shipped their new crypto fund and it was yes all white dudes it was 20 of the same guys that look exactly EXA same could have been Brothers cousins and they waited like a year or two if they'd launch that today like there would be a ton of anons being like we're so back
but like Mis Ed it they they got roasted on that one and uh I don't know I think like it's I truly didn't see them in the timeline since then yeah I'm sure they I'm sure they made it no no they bought Fogo to Chow the the private Equity AR bought Fogo to Chow and this is actually this is actually some genius marketing
by bcv they uh their their Venture firm was like we're gonna host a bunch of events at Fogo daa even though like we don't own it we like the Venture firm will like I'm sure the Venture team has some exact yeah when I worked at Bane to anything that they own on the private
Equity side you get at cost and so at one point they owned Denon and morance which would makes like extremely high-end audio file equipment and you could just get like an amazing speaker system for half we got to give a shout out to uh Tyler hosg who we work with who's who's working on a project with us
we flew out Tyler he he uh he's at Michigan right now we took him to Fogo toow for a nice steak you know launch John and I neither of us had our cards we were expecting to be able to use Apple pay and so we basically stuck the intern with the bill so bad of course we paid him back
immediately with interest but um still being in college getting taken out to lunch by some you know Professionals in suits that you work with and then being like Oh hope you're hope you're ready for there would have been some moments in my college that was the day I resolved to start carrying a ridge wallet and I have I
haven't been caught without I haven't been caught lacking S without your cards yeah I want everyone to know that I respect great cacta LTV ratios that's what ridgewall stands for baby uh let's go to Jeremiah Johnson uh he's quote tweeting Patriot Raider who says this is what happens when domestic Hogs
interbreed with wild hogs the they get larger each generation and it's just a picture of like a massive pig that's like the size of a for F-150 and Jeremiah says just a reminder that the 30 to 50 feral Hogs guy was completely right and everybody who mocked him was wrong do you remember that story uh no
okay went Mega viral a couple years ago basically there was a big argument around the Second Amendment do we really need assault rifles like AR15s do does the average American need to buy that uh you know you can hunt with a with a bolt action uh you know are you really going
to take over the government if they come for you with like f-16s and stealth bombers and so there was the this argument about like maybe you need like a shotgun for home defense but like do you really need an AR15 and and this guy chimed in and was like serious question what should I do about the 30 to 50
feral Hogs that are running through my backyard when like my kids are playing and everyone was like it's it's like hilariously specific it's very weird no one's ever seen a feral hog if they live in a city and so there was this massive like not culture War but just like culture clash between people who can't
imagine the idea of feral hog and what that means and it's funny and it's this pig and and this guy who was being very very serious and so everyone was dunking on him being like this is such a ridiculous scenario like yeah who really has 30 Hogs going and it's completely not in Texas in Texas you can so so for
those that don't know for the city Folk for for the vast majority of of animals that you would be inclined to hunt yeah you cannot just go shoot them you need you need tags you need there's an entire process it's Reg hogs in Texas specifically and I don't think anywhere are not regulated because
they're an invasive species they way over like crazy so you in Texas if you're ever looking for you know something to do with you know your mom on like a you know she's like hey we don't get that much time together like let's go do a spa weekend say cool let's do a spa weekend in Dallas you can you
know do your spa stuff and then go take a helicopter and you can you can take out pharoh Hogs with a minigun uh from the y uh and so you know just good bonding experience with your you know Mom or even mother-in-law and so yeah it's super real there was a whole debate over well is there a more efficient way
to get rid of them like people were saying why poison them space lasers would be good uh why don't you just poison them but uh if you poison the Hogs the poison that they use to kill them like other animals will eat them and then they'll die or they'll get in food supply also there the the Hogs can
be aggressive so in this guy's situation if children are playing in his yard and there's 30 to 40 feral Hogs 30 to 50 that's War yeah that's War yeah so it was just a wild throwback to uh to to this old story that I think a lot of people probably heard about and laughed at and didn't go the full Deep
dive but I remember deep diving it at the time and being like wow it's real I had no idea and learned a lot about Hogs well let's move on to Jack he says the world need more investment bankers consultants and mbas less trades people teachers doctor doctors and Engineers 13 likes and somehow this made it into our
show now that I don't know Jack but I I follow I followed him and and and if Jack if you didn't do this intentionally to get on the show it was just a stroke of luck great it's fantastic um you know we've we've we've always said that um people that work on their feet get too
much credit it's actually much healthier to work on your feet in many senses than sitting hunched over a a desk yeah but you should be on AAL desk in front of excel you know there's there's Heroes that that you know spend more time in Excel than you spend awake yeah every single day yeah and what did you say
about if Bloomberg went down Bloomberg terminal went down for even five minutes the entire global economy would collapse yeah yeah yeah what happens if they may stop making 2x4s for a little bit who cares yeah yeah your house gets built a week later yeah whatever yeah no no one's going to care
about that certainly not uh let's go to Zach uh great uh pm F Contender right yep an absolute dog um he first says 10 years ago having 100K followers meant you were famous making insane money from Brand deals and so on today it means literally nothing uh and with the wrong audience it does nothing for you and
then he says I feel responsibility of someone with 1 million plus followers which I didn't know you explain to me to tell you that is entire it is entirely pointless goal for 99% of people build something real and you'll get the reach you want and uh that's something I've certainly felt where um you know we've
had what four or five bottles of D Perry on at this point but it feels like I'm four or five cases deep at this point Y uh because the reach has been so precise like a surgeon's scalpel yeah with the right people yeah uh what Zach is saying is there was a history specifically on
Instagram and and YouTube and you know these platforms where you could on YouTube you could have 100K subscribers and be doing two ads with Walmart s companies a month and be making like a 100 Grand you know a month just like crazy money Brands like didn't know how to treat the channel yep and they were
just kind of spraying Money Instagram was the same way if you had 50k you'd be getting invited to you know hotels fre hotels free trips um to Dubai and yeah now it's it's it's it seems like brands have really pulled back with paid spend on Instagram yep um and so yeah I mean it's real you got to be you know what's
very clear is it's not about it it really is not about audience scale now because content is so viral you can if you figure out how to hack a format you can add 100K there's a guy that I follow who's hilarious like he's a comedian but he has this bit where he just talks about his addiction to reals yeah and he
has like 100k now but if he went to try to monetize that or do anything with it I mean my dog has 20,000 followers on Instagram like it's not that hard figure out bed by a dog bed by a dog your dog has more followers than you on Instagram seriously you probably 40 plus times oh
wait way more because I was just like okay I got this dog account like let me figure this out and then you just reverse engineer the algorithm and just blow it up and I think I've gotten like a dog leash out of it or something like I've never even tried to monetize it yeah but uh it would be sick if it was
like your there was dogs Instagram dog accounts I'm sure there still are and stuff and all that all that silly stuff but I don't know it's fun to reverse engineering algorithm and blow up as we have done with this show it's very fun uh did you listen to the yarvin interview do you know who Curtis yarvin
is yeah yeah yeah yeah um this is kind of an interesting moment in Tech right before the election the New York Times does an interview and they transcribe the interview with Curtis yarvin who's uh part of this dark Enlightenment movement uh people call him the founder of the alt-right uh he's uh very
disenchanted with politics and and often advocates for anti- Democratic or anti-democracy it's Pro monarchy pro pro monarchy like this weird techn monarchy stuff winded pieces the the thing that's pretty his P you know one of one of his main points in this interview was that uh okay what
would California look like if it was run by Apple yep and then what would the MacBook look like if it was run by the California government that's a very funny and uh it it's you can imagine how demented a a a laptop computer would look like and his primary point is that monarchy but on the flip side you would
have to buy a new house every year yeah so you know some good some bad with his cu the planet OB was come in it'd be like yeah you got upgrad to the house 17 oh you have the house 16s I got the house 16s Pro but is this is this a moment like is this part of the vibe shift where the New York Times is having
a sit down interview with somebody that he was Persona NADA he was not someone that they would platform even a couple months ago but now well they would talk about him but as they would say he was the founder now they're platforming somebody they used to say was the founder of the yeah exactly and they and
they and previously they would say like we would never like it was interesting a hand I saw a handful of people coming out um that that were were like everybody supporting yarvin is 10 years too late yeah yeah there's a lot of like oh I'm the cool kid that read unqualified reservations eight years ago
which is like his blog um and uh I don't know all that's all that's kind of silly uh but Brian sha here is is breaking down uh what he thinks jarvan's like main point was which was just disenchantment just being disappointed with the way the government works and uh he makes this analogy to if you ask
someone uh you know do you do you like democracy they'll say like yes democracy is amazing and if you ask them do you like politics they'll be like no do you like populism no and it's like okay they are kind of all the same thing so maybe you should ask question um he has a
really funny line about like why does the New York Times work uh well it's a fifth generation absolute hereditary monarchy who has just been passed down from Father and Son uh which is funny um but overall I think he didn't do a very good job of explaining that like obviously democracy is a gradient and
authoritarian is a gradient and we have that like you could say I am in favor like let's say I want more roads I could say I am in favor of I will vote for the president who says they're going to build more roads that's one form of democracy there's another form of democracy that says I want to vote on
whether or not we build roads not just the guy who says he's going to build roads I want to vote on the road issue and then there's I want to vote on where the roads go I want to vote on what type of cement they're using to build those roads and what hours of the day they can
build those rights and so all of those are like increasingly Democratic but you get to a point where it's like can every single person be educated about every single decision and is that actually efficient especially with the voting system being like somewhat cumbersome just to count the votes for everything
and so we've seen this in California which has a more democratic system than other states and we have the the the ballot initiative system and you get some really crazy stuff out of there where it's just like oh they were like this company paid for people to stand outside of grocery stores and all of a
sudden this is a new law and it's like this doesn't feel super Democratic but I guess it is more democratic than what we do at the federal level uh so yeah I mean we we don't have a pure Democracy in America we have a representative democracy and even that is something that wasn't able to be said a few years
ago and now he's kind of like breaking that Overton window so get out the glass smash the Overton window Curtis is in the in the New York Times and uh there's a very long-winded convers if you want to go listen to it anyway that's our show folks thanks for watching we are headed to a dinner that we will remember
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