london city left the town m.i.a you kidding me m.i.a man that's different right there man that's crazy that's one of the verses i've been wanting for a long time because she's because she's more than a musician man she's more than an artist like she's like an icon now yeah she wanted the
illness for sure that's great do you remember when you heard it for the first time do you remember what your first impression of mia was yeah no it was crazy it was just like one of the most um visual like human beings i've ever seen you know i mean like i think i've seen
like a video of her in like lower east side of like new york or like soho new york just doing some videos like man raps is just fire the beast is crazy it's gonna be crazy also i was like i think i was like i don't know how young it's so crazy you know you find yourself being inspired by all this music and
then you manifest through self-reflection you find yourself in a space where it's you and doug and mia on this and it's just like those are the pinch yourself moments right yeah nah that's crazy because i mean and even two like uh me and me and thug too it's just like man we've
been making music for you know quite a while now uh we've done like tours together it's just like and we've just always put out songs just put them out you know we never just like man i'm like i'm i'm back i'm back in that film i was just like making my like my first album or leaving
my first mixtape again it was just like man i just want to go so hard with this i just feel like my i've blown it i think we just blew my phone's figure now oh god i thought it was white t the whole world thought it was yt because you and you and chase love chase on dot wave radio
you were like ah let me just lick this out everyone caught a white tee was it always franchise though did we get it wrong no no no we just we just naturally it was just always just calling white tea just like and it was like the first bar made and he was making a song it was just like
hard and just even with me and when we talk about it and just we still call it like white like that franchise is always like the name i think we had on the board for it that was just fire we had like a couple circle like names that we just thought was and so you know what i'm shaking
uh so you know we were just talking with them it was advice we was you know so but now you know it's just like names is always that jump it up you know so that's the joke though man i with it heavy where did you uh when did you make it give us some timeline on it people want
to know where exists in the whole grand scheme of life um it's crazy we made it when i was actually in houston which is like the illest things illness ever because uh i rarely recorded houston and always makes like like my favorite songs usually i think the highest in the room at my
mom's house like i set up a studio at my mom's crib and i was like wow i mean so you just went back to the house you grew up and you set that studio back up in the same space you were when you were aspiring to do it and you made it there michelle houston fornication same thing we made that at my mom's script
how often how often do you get back to houston i've been trying to go often you know i mean i try to go as much as i can just see my mom man you know i just try to see my mom i can't my brother's sister have you found the whole thing i mean listen it's an obvious and stupid question because
everyone's felt it challenging but in in your personal situation your micro um how have you remained balanced in the last seven or eight months because you've shown up in significant ways and almost out of nowhere let's start with fortnight because that experience honestly travis that experience
meant a lot to a lot of people and can i tell you why because it felt like it was one of the first times someone had figured something out i mean i think i mean i guess that's just what we've been doing um uh even just before this i think we just figured things out and just like
just trying to like put it to test i guess this year um and just like coming up it's just like we just been just keeping a natural energy flowing um creative energy fun too man and just be trying to just do some of the things that we've always wanted to just been doing
oh it's just like day one and just like the music too man just being able to like get back to like making beats like that it's just like it's thriving and it's just driving me i'm just so hyped like i've never been so hyped and i'm like back like i i'm excited about music and rapping and
beats again like this just like i'm on a mission man like i'm i'm i'm like we trying to literally build up these gates at utopia and like make it happen but i'm starting right now from the ground up to make these walls you know when we when we saw the dark which i love we spoke about it i love
that documentary that's one that's going to hold its position it's hard music documentaries they don't age that well all of them but your ones you go back and watch it over and over again and that's because it's so honest and i think that what really shocked fans was
at the end of the astro world campaign it was you didn't achieve everything you felt you deserve to and we all felt you deserve to did that did that take you a minute to regroup and to get that that that excitement and that like hunger back post astro world to get to this place where you're as
amped as you are now yeah i think it's i think that the moment i was like the moment when it didn't come and it didn't happen for us i think at that moment is when my brain like ticked over so a whole another type of just like man um man um i gotta bring this to the crib i got you man
and i got it i'm doing this solely for like my fans i don't really care about nothing else this ain't for me man this is just building up with the fans man like we live i live eat i breathe i sweat for the kids for the fans i don't give a about no i might even care about myself like that
you know what i'm saying i really really care about these kids and these people that's walking the earth like to making sure that they good and we got something that is staying on it's a wall so we can do whatever we want to make our ideas come alive nobody can stop us
and until we got that what are you doing what are you doing with all this energy now you're not on stage and you know everyone had shows pulled everyone had plans everybody had moments to reach the audience nothing better than seeing the looks on people's faces and
seeing the way they react to your music you can't have that what do you do with that anxiety where are you putting it i'm building i'm building i'm i'm building the walls to utopia like i said like my energy is still just going into like building up these walls so when they are built up and we can now
go back and touch these streets we can now just like oh man i'm sorry this facetime can't embody the energy that i have right now no i know i know and i'm trying but i never will i'll never get it franchise is the song travis scott this is anthem right here this is for fans of
of those moments that alongside a perfect catalog uh you're talking about moments that stand up alongside anything um you know i feel like this is almost like a sibling to sicko mode a little bit in production it has that same real energy that like squelch basin all that hardcore
that we love about that song is that fair to say it just feels like it's in the camp i would say like the sonics of what uh what we probably created back for like a second one or something or something i was like dear to that i was like when i tapped into that range like well
i felt like the bgb or b should be that i was like man uh we created something that could still be pushed forward too like i'm not even done with leaving with that sound or like levitating that sound you know um it's just like you know me everything's just about a sonic presence man just
maintaining masonic presence and pushing that side how did you get mia on the record let's get to specifics on the song before we let you go how did you get how did you get on my how did you make that connection reached out to me for something for our album and we connected i think one was
like in london um you know she's just one of my favorite artists and just human spirit so it's just amazing you know just chopping it up and spend some time and i just when i finish the song i couldn't think of nobody else i could probably just maybe like body this like you know anybody just like his
heart it's like anyone else any other rapper any other artist and it's that presence man we ain't felt this presence in a long time i'm just trying to get just get back right man we gotta get this back right you know i'm saying like all this the energy man and just like music the beats perhaps
god everything just getting like oh man she's the illest of all time hey you know what man i always appreciate the chance just to get a little time appreciate it as always man thank you traffic thank you bro thank you for going hard for us out here every day bro you know that