at this time you went further back you actually decided to kind of trace the journey from early days yeah up to this point I know you've always spoken what's going on your life in the moment it must be kind of interesting going back and reflecting on who you were and what you were saying back then because I have some time to kind of reflect on what's happened to my life in the last five years you know and like really kind of
get into a place where I feel like okay I'm I mean this is my life now I get I get this you know and not being because everything you know when everything is new it's exciting but it's also scary and I guess now I'm kind of in a more like calm place about most of it I mean tell us a little bit about sweet talk my heart and and what it means to you it's crazy it was one of the first songs I
wrote for the record I found the voice memo like when like I started coming up with the melodies and it's I mean out of how many voice made up memos though I looked through and I found like as I knew we had the session in February 2018 and so I found like looked for those days I was like and I just said someone like I can be yours la la something and I'm just kind of coming up with that and then I hear like my producers in the
back oh oh that's so cool that's so good it's like it really it gives me like butterflies listening to it isn't that crazy do you think that also that your subconscious decided that it needed to go back to February 2018 to find its voice memo yeah because you've probably done 500 since then exactly exactly I think it's just like a it's a bundle of guys that me and my friends have been through it's 100 texts from girlfriends
saying like it's this song about me and I'm like no it's about all of us remember all these talks that we've had with each other I have to ask you because she's like pop music royalty I'm sure many people have asked Kylie Minogue it's not songs but i--but she says no nine times out of ten I mean he believed my I was like it was a very serious seriously the bottle on you know it was like I mean it started this is like it
long it's like you know the long game on my end when I released lady would I released this picture of me holding my lyric because I still write so my legs on pad of paper and she tweeted me saying like yes she's a pen and paper girl and I was like this is real she just this is happening and I like screenshot it saved it in my like memory memory box and then we like you know IG are two years later play the same amfAR
charity event in Hong Kong and I was like I just really want to meet her like I you know it's it is it possible you know and so my team reached out to her team and she was like yes I want to meet her so we met in hugged and she's just an awesome person like so cool and and like beautiful and just a force and she she is two men first time I met her she's like so strong the energy is so strong for someone who's really slight
yeah he has a huge charisma and huge strength exactly and it's just like it was cool to see like you know it was just like surreal to meet her in general and then she just said like I'll be so fun to make music together sometime and I'm like you know and so when I was making this album it was kind of in the back of my head like okay I need something that is like if if I would make his song that like feel like her
voice would be good on and like has like a Kylie Minogue essence about but naturally I'll make it cool but I also have you know it was definitely but then when we wrote really don't like you it just felt like I could hear her on it and so I was just like let's just reach out you know what it couldn't hurt and she loved it and was into it and was like let me do my thing to it you know and just killed it and like gave it so
much like Kylie vibe and I just yeah it was a very amazing she was so cool like doing the Macario key video and like just shot all these amazing setups and she just such a superstar it's just yeah like I said before you know your social artist you know you're someone who might know enjoys hanging out with other artists and you're fun to be around a lot of people really love hanging out with you Charlie's told me some really hilarious
guys who's the most fun hanging out of your peer group do you really love to see in the you know name my posse I always lie mean Charlie's definitely one of them she always has so much fun do a leave pass on the - it was a great time in the studio Icona pop you know I've known her for years they're just my my buddies and Alma it's also so much fun in great person you know I feel like you and Charlie had been walking kind of
simultaneous paths in similar ways and that beyond just the friendship you had the both your careers have been sort of climbing at a certain pace she's always ahead of the game she's always soon something new it's always like her albums her shows everything is just like you know she's such a powerhouse you just like you know everyone like jumps on her records like she just gets everyone to come perform with her she
just has this energy about her that is like really awesome and I feel it's really awesome to be a female artist right now like there's so much support you know I feel very supported by other female artists and there's always like down a jump on each other songs and work together and like you know push each other's music out and like it's a really cool environment well I noticed one of your rings there's the yin and the yang
there's the space and a piece right on your on your finger how do you stay in a place where you're able to be your best self I think what kind of keeps me in check with that is my voice I feel like if I you know get too much into the chaos you know it kind of it starts to affect my voice and that means I can't do the thing that I love the most so that kind of keeps me in check you know that's it's like a very like a
fear of losing yours if you're not taking yeah and I've noticed that like now I feel like at this level I'm starting to realize you know like when I play a show like my fans who come are giving me so much energy and I have to give them the best I can and you know sometimes obviously you get sick and then it's it is what it is but I think if I know that me my chaotic self like made this experience not the best that I could have given
them I feel I feel really so that helps me to and I think me also like I get a lot of that out on stage like on stage I feel like I don't have to make myself small or handle my feelings you know to like work in society then I can just give it you know and like him I can let if I'm angry from sad or if I'm happy from whatever feeling I'm going through I can just that can just be fully free on stage you