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Tom: Oh, mate, that is...
Tom: Oh, mate, that is...
That's the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth.
Sean: Hey, what's going on, everybody?
For <i>First We Feast</i>, I'm Sean Evans, and you're watching <i>Hot Ones</i>.
It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
And today we close out season 16 with Tom Holland.
He began his career at 12 years old in the Westend production of "<i>Billy Elliot</i>", now, he's one of Hollywood's biggest box office draws.
From award winning performances in "<i>The</i> <i>Impossible</i>" to the <i>Marvel Cinematic Universe</i>, and on the topic of the latter, he stars in, what's sure to be one of the year's biggest films, "<i>Spider-Man: No Way Home</i>", which is set to release in theaters on December 17th.
Tom Holland, welcome to the show. Tom: Hello, mate. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
Sean: And before we begin... Tom: Okay. Sean: ...
one last time for season 16.
How are you a spicy food?
What's going through your head as we prepare to dig in?
Tom: I'm okay with spicy food.
I mean, at Nando's I'm a medium or a hot, if I'm feeling adventurous, extra hot is too far gone for me.
So, I think today is gonna be rather brutal, and I think everyone will get to see a side to me that no one has ever seen before.
Maybe I haven't even seen this side to me, that's about to come out. But, I'm very excited.
I'm a huge fan of the show.
It was, actually, my mate Twain, a couple years ago was like: "You should do this show called <i>Hot Ones</i>." .
I said: "What's <i>Hot Ones</i>?.
He's like: "Oh, it's a show where you eat spicy chicken wings and you talk about stuff."
, I was like: "That sounds so stupid." .
And then I watched the first episode. I watched Idris Elba.
Immediately was obsessed with your show and have since then been a huge fan. The "Classic hot sauce". Okay. Sean: Oh, yeah.
Other side, other side, other side. Tom: You just saved me. Sean: Dom.
Tom: If I went for the worst one, the first wing. Sean: Dom. Whoa. Tom: Can you imagine?
Can I say a huge thank you?
Because that would have been, we would have cut this well short. Okay.
So, we're going over here. Sean: Yep. Tom: All right. Oh, yeah. That's nice. Wow.
I am getting a bit of a kick now, though.
Sean: So, "<i>Spider-Man: No Way Home</i>" features the return of Alfred Molina as Doctor Octopus, a role that he had more than 15 years ago, which I imagine is a unique situation for an actor.
Can you recall an instance of his mind being blown by the technology and innovation that goes into making Spider-Man movies today?
Tom: Just got a delayed reaction.
The old "Classic hot sauce" there.
Um, obviously, when he was making the film, I think it was 2002, maybe?
His arms, his sort of robotic arms were puppets.
They were like real, tangible things.
And they'd have a guy on each one and they would puppeteer them while he was performing.
So, he had to work in tandem with the other four guys.
On this film, obviously, technology has advanced, CGI has become so, you know, prevalent in these films.
So, it was amazing seeing him have a bit more freedom on set with the way he could move without having to rely on other people.
We had this thing called a toothpick rig, which is like a long bar, like, almost like a crane with a platform on one end and weights on the other.
And they put him on that crane, so they can move him around, so it looks like the arms are carrying him, and he loved it.
Like, he absolutely loved it.
But the funny thing is, is that you'd be talking to him and he'd be attached to the rig, and because he has no control over where he goes, he'd be talking to you and he'd be like: "Yeah, so, Tom, I'm from South London..."
, and then he would just suddenly, like, disappear.
And he'd be like: "Oh, fucking hell, mate, I'll see you later." . So, it was, it was a... plavage, a plavage... Sorry. The spices. Do you know what it is?
I've got, still, chicken in my teeth. Sean: Right. Oh... Tom: And it comes...
Sean: I know that, I know that all too well.
There's lots of times where I'm putting up a front, like it's not bothering me, but I, I...
every episode, every episode.
Tom: But it was a, it was a privilege to get to work with him, with Alfred. He was a good guy.
I really liked working with him. It's very sweet. Sean: Mhm.
Tom: That was really nice.
I actually really liked that one. It was quite sweet.
I didn't really get any vinegar, but it was nice. I liked it.
The next one looks nasty, though. It's very red.
Chicken's not supposed to be red like that. Okay.
Sean: So, I was interested to read that "<i>Spider-Man: No Way Home</i>" director Jon Watts, actually, assigned a John Hughes movie marathon, which you hosted at your Atlanta home. Tom: Yes.
Sean: And I'm curious if you think there's any common DNA between the Spider-Man franchise that you star in and then these classic coming-of-age teen movies from the 1980s?
Tom: There definitely is.
John, definitely, took inspiration from those movies.
There are aspects of the way characters are dressed or the way they look.
That is, definitely, inspired by it... by those movies.
Um, and I think that is what sets our franchise apart from the rest of the, kind of, superhero genre is that they have this kind of really happy-go-lucky teenage, coming-of -age high school movie vibe, which I've never really seen before in a superhero film.
"<i>Ferris Bueller's Day Off</i>", for me, was the one that had the most inspiration for Spider-Man.
This kid who's kind of breaking the rules, but he kind of is doing it for the right reasons.
But, the biggest inspiration for me, and my biggest goal in playing Spider-Man was...
I really wanted to be this generation's Marty McFly. Sean: Yeah, I love that.
Tom: That's up for everyone else's opinion.
But, for me, I'm really proud of what we did, and especially my relationship between me and Downey.
To me, there's a lot of similarities between Marty and Doc, and I know that they have deep faked us and made that happen, which, actually, was a huge honor for me. I loved seeing it.
Uh, but, um, but yeah, so that for me would have been the biggest inspiration. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Sean: You look good. Tom: Thank you mate. Yeah, it's nice.
Sean: Kind of like a barbecue sauce, with, like, a little kick to it.
Tom: Yeah, that feels good. That's good. I like that one.
Sean: So your career, it's taking you around the world.
And I've read that you like to visit golf courses in each new city that you visit.
I played baseball my whole life, and I think the muscle memory of swinging a bat has ruined any potential I'll ever have of being good at golf. Tom: Right.
Sean: Do you have any general swing tips for just hopeless duffers like myself? Tom: Uh. I mean...
shorten your backswing, is what I'd say, 'cause you, the golf clubs now, the technology is so advanced that you don't have to hit it that hard for the ball to go that far a distance.
So, shorten your backswing and don't try and hit it too hard.
Sean: Well, I'm taking notes. There down.
I'll apply them to the course next time I go.
Are you ready to move on here to the next wing? "Los Calientes" verde. And you're doing great.
Tom: "Los Calientes" verde.
Okay, this one looks like it's gonna surprise me.
It's got a bit of a green hue in there. Sean: It is. It's got a green hue. Tom: All right.
So, immediately spicy, this one. Fucking...
I'm gonna go for a second hit, though.
Sean: But you're going back in.
Tom: 'Cause it's really nice. Sean: Salut. Tom: Oh, shit. Okay. Wow. Wow.
This is such a good idea for an interview. Because my brain...
my brain is all over the place. Sean: We've got him.
Tom: You could ask me anything. Sean: We've got him.
Tom: And I would be so honest.
Sean: So you had an interesting line on the "Nerdist" podcast, where you talked about how playing a superhero kind of takes away your biggest superpower as an actor... Tom: True. Sean: ...
since you're also covering your face. Tom: Right.
Sean: What do you see as the limitations or maybe even the opportunities for an actor when you do spend half a movie hidden behind a costume?
Tom: I mean, it comes with its own set of challenges, for sure. Fuck me. Wow.
I wanna try and do this and not have any milk.
Sean: Okay, we'll see how that goes.
Tom: But, I don't think that's gonna...
Sean: Yeah, there's no shame in that.
Tom: We're not even, we're only four in.
It's definitely difficult.
I mean, as an actor, you use expression with your face to convey emotion.
And when you take that away, you have to figure out how to do it with your physicality.
So if you took off the Spider-Man suit and I behaved the way I would while in the suit, you'd think I was a crazy person and acting way, way too much and too big. But cover up your face.
All of a sudden those bigger reactions feel normal.
My secret weapon is that I will always pretend like my arms are dead, so that when I move, my arms kind of swing around. So, it's...
Peter Parker's hands are always doing the most crazy stuff.
And for me, that has been a really good way of, like, making him feel youthful, while also in moments of peril and stuff like that.
Um, but it's also sometimes a great thing.
Like, if I've gone out the night before and had a little bit too much to drink, if I've got a mask on, no one knows, so it's fine.
I'm supposed to be going to a <i>Lakers</i> game tonight. Sean: Oh, really?
Tom: I'm gonna have to go and shit after every quarter. Let's do this. "Revolutionary".
Sean: This one's a little... Yeah. One's good.
Tom: That is revolutionary. Sean: Yeah. Tom: Fucking hell. Sean: As advertised. Tom: Wow. Wow. Sean: All right, Tom.
We have a recurring segment on our show called "explain that gram".
We do a deep dive on our guest Instagram, pull interesting pictures that need more context.
Tom: What sort is the milk?
So we'll show you the picture over here on the monitor... Tom: Oh, Johnny B.
Sean: A fellow season 16 <i>Hot Ones</i> alum, right there. Tom: Right. I love him so much.
He's one of the greatest guys I've ever met.
I remember doing a scene with him.
I told this story yesterday, actually, and I said to him, sometimes as an actor, if you're doing a scene that requires like real stress, I find it quite helpful if someone kind of roughs me up a little bit.
And I said to John, I was like: "Mate, listen.
Before the scene, could you just rough me up a bit?
And uh, you know, just, just scare me a little bit, please." .
And he was like: "Nah, man, I don't wanna do that.
Like, you're my little brother. I love you, man.
I don't want to do that." . Sean: Good impression. Tom: I was like: "Okay.
I appreciate that if you don't want to do that, that's fine." .
And they went: "Right, we're rolling."
, and they went: "Action", and he went...
and I was like: "Oh, my God." . And it was great.
And it worked so well for the scene.
But he just, he just didn't want me to know it was coming.
But he properly cracked me one.
I look back on that as a very fond experience.
And meeting him was, you know, one of the highlights.
We haven't had the chance to work together since, but I would love to. Oh, my God. It just came back. Sean: Yeah.
they can, they can, sometimes when you least expect it.
Tom: But like, from deep within. Oh.
Tom: This looks really nice. I can't wait to try it.
Okay, I'm just gonna eat it. Ready? Sean: Ready. Tom: Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, it's not that bad. Sean: At first. Tom: At first? Oh, come... Oh, yeah. Sean: Yeah.
Starts to grow on you a little bit.
Tom: It's so interesting in it how it hits you like... Wow. That's amazing.
Sometimes, I really try to figure out how to make my voice sound cooler, if I'm doing scenes.
I just need to eat fucking spicy chicken wings.
Sean: We figured out a technique here today. Tom: Wow.
Tom: Okay, I'm gonna go for a second hit, because I wanna...
Sean: Okay, then I'm going back in, too. Tom: ... see how that, okay.
Sean: I feel like I'm really seeing the actor's side of you, you know, like, really immersing yourself in the experience.
Tom: I really want to see what this is about.
That's way worse the second time. Wow. Well. It's in my nose now. Oh.
Sean: So I know that while you're weary of overly laddish behavior, that the pub culture, the old school pub culture, it still has a special place in your heart.
And then pub food, to me, it's an endless topic of fascination whenever we visit London. Tom: Right.
Sean: Can you explain what a carvery is? For the uninitiated. Tom: oh, a carvery? Right.
A carvery is, firstly, amazing.
It is a portion of food that normally revolves around a piece of meat. It can be any meat.
I don't know if this is an actual rule, but I know that my local pub used to do it when we were kids.
But, if you're 16, so two years under the legal drinking age, if you have a carvery, they are allowed to serve you a pint of beer.
I guess the idea is, is that the amount of food cancels out the beer.
Obviously, as kids we would abuse that rule and go and not eat the food and just drink a beer.
But, a carvery is like a portion of meat, with food, like a roast dinner.
Tom: What does it mean if a dish is minging?
Tom: Minging means it's disgusting.
Like that last wing was minging.
Sean: Well, if you thought that was minging, we'll see what you think about the next one.
Tom: The milk looks so good. Wow. Tom: Oh, yeah. That's not that bad. Wow. That one's not bad. I like that one. Sean: Yeah. It's tasty.
Tom: It's the second hit. It's... Sean: It's, yeah.
I think it's when you go back in.
Tom: Listen, I didn't come here to play. Sean: I can tell.
Tom: I came here to eat these chicken wings.
Sean: So, there's a lot of lore surrounding that ten minute long tsunami scene that opens up the "<i>Impossible</i>", your feature film debut. Tom: Yeah.
Sean: Is it true that you guys only had one shot of doing that?
Because to rebuild the set and shoot it again would have blown the budget. Tom: Yes. Oh my gosh.
Essentially, what they did is they built...
they built, um, like a... oh, man, my lips are... oh.
They built a set that was a third of the size of the actual hotel in which it happened. The...
they had something like 3,000,000 liters of water in a huge tank with these breakaway doors.
And, essentially, the director had this big red button.
I think they were using something like 14 cameras at the same time, all set in specific locations.
There was, obviously, no one on set while this was happening, 'cause it was very dangerous. Oh, my God.
Then they hit the button and the water came out and destroyed the set.
And it was incredibly impressive to witness.
It looks great in the film.
And then, obviously, what they do is they upscale it, so the third size model then looks full size and then they put us in. They comp us in. And it was amazing.
It was really incredible.
And um, and that's, that's the end of my story. And fuck me. That is so spicy.
Sean: Is it true that you blew a "<i>Star Wars</i>" audition, 'cause you couldn't contain your laughter reading lines opposite someone pretending to be a droid?
Tom: Yeah, yeah, that's very true.
I don't think that's the reason why I didn't get the role.
I think John Boyega was just better for the role than me.
Um, but I just remember thinking, there's no way this lady is going to read the robots lines opposite me, just because that would be ridiculous.
And I don't remember what my line was but it was: "Let's get back to the Falcon." .
And then this lady, bless her, would sit there with full commitment, and she just was like: <i>(imitates a robot sound)</i> And I just remember thinking, the first time she did it, I went: "Ahah, that's funny. Oh, wow. All right. Brilliant. We'll do it again. We'll do it again. Sorry." . Did the line again.
And I remember sort of saying, like: "You're not actually gonna do that, right?" .
And she was like: "Well, yeah, the robot's part of the scene. He's the character." .
It's R2-D2 or C-3PO, I don't know.
I just got the giggles because...
You know, when you realize you've got something so wrong? Sean: Yeah.
Tom: I just couldn't stop laughing.
I'm not gonna try the lemon, 'cause I wanna, I wanna do the whole experience. I wanna...
and then at the end, when we cut the cameras... Sean: We go crazy.
Tom: I'm gonna drink that milk so quickly...
Sean: We're gonna bring the whole other gallon for you.
Tom: I'm gonna drink it so quickly. You have no idea. Let's do it. The "Da' Bomb". All right. Ready? Sean: Yeah. Tom: Let's do it.
Oh, I've gone for the bone. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah.
Oh, no, I didn't even put it in my mouth, and... Sean: Whoa!
Sean: Victoria just went like this. Tom: Oh, no. Sean: Mhm. Tom: Oh, mate.
Oh, mate, that is so bad. Sean: You and me. Same page there. Tom: Oh, fucking hell. Do you finger lick?
Or you, at this stage, you just... Sean: No. I just survived. Tom: Oh, my God. That is so bad.
Sean: At this stage, I just survive. Tom: Oh, my God, Sean. Sean: Yeah, yeah.
Tom: I think it's time to try this lemon trick.
If this is a joke and this is gonna make it worse.
Sean: We're not setting you up. Not setting you up.
I don't know if it'll help that much. Tom: That doesn't help.
Sean: I don't think, I don't think anything will.
I don't think anything will. Tom: Oh, man.
I have to walk this off for a second. Sean: Yeah, yeah. Take a lap. Take a lap.
We've seen some laps on this show. Tom: Whoa. Huh?
Do I want a <i>Magnum</i>?
Yeah, I would love a <i>Magnum</i>.
You don't have any <i>Magnum</i>? Oh, mate. That is...
that's the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth. Wow. I feel so sick. Sean: You okay? Tom: I'm fantastic, man.
I'm having the time of my life. Whoa.
I feel like I just got, like, botox, but had no anesthesia or something.
Not that I've ever had botox or know what it feels like, but that's where the whole world's like: "He's had botox." .
Could I, please, have some more milk?
Sean: Yeah, we're on it, we're on it, we're on it. Coming through. Tom: Thank you so much. I could give you a hug. Oh, I see, yeah. Sean: We got a secret. Dom is always here. Tom: Okay. Sean: With the milk. Tom: Thank you, Dom. Tom: I appreciate it. So, tell me... Paul Rudd's episode. Sean: Yeah, yeah.
Tom: Our favorite episode.
Sean: Oh, that's, uh, such a high compliment.
Tom: I'm sure you know why. Sean: Yeah. Tom: Look at us. Sean: Look at us. Tom: Look at us.
Sean: Who would have thought?
Tom: Who would have thought, mate? Fuck me. This one is up to 12.
Meaning that you should be 12 and above, or 12?
Sean: I think on a scale from 1 to 10.
Tom: Oh, mate, I'm so stupid.
If it was underrated, it would have said not advised for people under the age of 12. Oh. Okay. Oh, wow.
I feel cold and on fire at the same time.
Like, my insides feel like they're burning, but my outsides feel like it's really cold.
Oh, I don't wanna do this. All right. We ready?
Sean: I'm ready, I'm ready. Tom: Let's go!
I've got a lot of that on my lip there. Sean: Yeah.
Tom: Imma second dip there, 'cause I don't think I got it. Sean: Are you sure? Tom: Yeah.
Imma second dip, 'cause that... Sean: Are you sure? Tom: Yeah. We're going. Sean: All right. Tom: Are you ready? Oh, yeah. That's spicy, man. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. Wow. Okay.
Sean: So, I'm always amused when I hear you say that people confuse you from one of those British actors with classic training, remarking you went only to 2% of drama school classes.
What do you think an actor learns just going directly into the industry, talking to directors, being on set that maybe they wouldn't pick up if they went to a prestigious drama school like <i>RADA</i>?
Tom: Um, I think that sometimes, uh, a benefit of not going to drama school is going in fresh and allowing your teachers to be the director, you know, and this is a piece of advice I got from Robert Downey, actually, to let my body do the work rather than thinking about everything.
So, for me, I tend to learn my lines the morning of, so that the moment I'm saying them, they're as fresh as possible. And, uh... is there a doctor here? 'Cause fuckin' wow. I'm not joking. No, I'm joking. Sean: Okay, whoa. He's a good actor. He's a good actor.
Tom: This might be the best milk... Sean: Right. Tom: I've ever had.
Sean: It's like, like an oasis.
Like you've been walking through the desert.
Tom: That's exactly what it feels like. All right.
The last one on the list. "Apollo".
The "Last Dab with the Apollo pepper". Okay. All right. Let's do this last dab.
Sean: But I have to say, you know, uh... Whoa.
Tom: That's too much, is it?
Listen, I've committed now. It's there... it's very... that looks like...
Sean: Maybe, maybe hit that with a little... Tom: No, I've done it. Sean: Okay.
Tom: I've made my bed, I'm gonna lay in it. Okay, okay.
I feel like I'm about to jump off a cliff or something. That's a lot as well. I put way... Sean: You put a lot.
Tom: You put a tiny bit on there.
You're showing your experience. Sean: I know. But, you know what? I gotta join the party. This is the season 16... Tom: Yours. Wow.
Sean: This is the season 16 finale. Tom: Wow.
Sean: The season 16 finale.
And, Tom, you've been so brave coming into this.
Not sure how it was gonna go, and look at you.
Drenching sauces, going in for double hits.
Tom: All right, let's do this. Sean: All right. Cheers, Tom.
Tom: It's been a pleasure, mate.
I've really enjoyed this.
Sean: Pleasure is all mine. Tom: Ah! Oh, look how much I got. Sean: I know! Tom: Ah! Ah! I hate my job. Oh, mate.
Sean: I know, but, Tom, the good thing is you've slayed the spicy sauce beast.
We have put the nail in the coffin of season 16.
And if we've learned anything through this interview, it's that you love movies and that you love making movies.
And I've heard that you have a propensity to, maybe, take a souvenir or two from set.
And so to close things out, I just wanna ask you.
Of all of those souvenirs that you've taken from movie sets over the years, what is your Holy Grail?
The one that has the most sentimental value to you? Tom: The most... Oh, wow. I'm going in. Sean: Whoa! Ah!
Next time I do a crying scene, I'm calling you and you've got to send me this hot sauce.
Sean: I will show up on set. I will show up on set. Tom: Wow. Let's go.
Tom: My favorite souvenir was, actually, given to me.
Well, it wasn't given to me, it was given to my little brother Paddy.
When "<i>Black Panther</i>" was coming out, Robert Downey Jr. was making "<i>Dr.
Dolittle</i>" in London, and he was staying down the road from where I live, and he invited us to a screening of "<i>Black Panther</i>" at his house.
And Paddy comes running into the room and he's holding the original Iron Man helmet, and Downey had given it to him as a gift.
That's a really special one for me, because I was lucky enough to join the <i>MCU</i>, but I joined it very late.
And that souvenir, you know, that's from the original film.
That's the, the birthplace of this incredible world that Kevin Feige and <i>Marvel</i> have created, you know, and Downey and Favreau kick started.
So, to have something from that film is a huge honor. Sean: A Holy Grail.
And look at you, Tom Holland.
Putting a bow on season 16.
Taking on the wings of death and living to tell the tale.
And now there's nothing left to do, but roll out the red carpet for you, Tom Holland.
This camera, this camera, or this camera.
Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
Tom: "<i>Spider-Man: No Way Home</i>" is coming out, December 17th.
It's the best Spider-Man movie that's ever been made.
It's so fun and exciting. It's emotional. It's heartfelt.
I've been so, it's such an honor for me to play Spider-Man for all this time, and for it to come to this point, honestly, it means the world to me. I'm gonna be sick. So, I'm gonna sign off. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Sean: Thank you. Sean: Dude.
Tom: Please feel free to roll on this. It's "Da' Bomb". Wow.
God, Jack, you took a big old bite there, mate.
Harry: Are you good with spicy food? Jack: I don't mind it. That's hot.
Tom: You're the coolest person I've ever met.
Jack's just gone: "That's hot, though." .
Harry: You know what, though?
We were doing the film in Canada. Oh, my God, man. That's getting hotter.
The director had hot, this hot sauce.
Tom: Yeah, you just have the glass. I'll have the jug.
You all right there, bro? bro. How are you feeling?
Water makes it worse, as well.
Jack: Yeah, you don't want, we need that milk, mate. Where's the milk gone? Harry: That's awful.
Tom: Oh, I think I'm gonna shit my pants.
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