so who exactly was this Floyd character I was referring to earlier his name was Floyd Ray Wilson and he was about 37 and for a year and a half in the late 1970s he lived in my house he used to date my mom's best friend Jackie and years earlier he would visit the apartment
that my mom and I shared with her two roommates Jackie and Lillian and every time he came by it was exciting because I thought Floyd was really cool and I could talk movies with him and since he was a hip guy who saw a lot of [ __ ] he could keep up I remember when Jackie
introduced us I was 10 years old and she said Quenton Floyd's who you should talk to about movies he knows as much as you do so I a 10-year-old started testing this grown ass man on his knowledge of movies finally I was able to talk to somebody about movies who knew what the
[ __ ] I was talking about also during this time I realized the hard way that Floyd was a flaky guy who couldn't be counted on on at least two occasion he told me he'd come over next Saturday and take me to the movies oh boy I thought not just talking about movies with Floyd but actually going to the
movies at Floyd but when Saturday came no Floyd no call no excuse no apology just no show he either forgot or he didn't give a [ __ ] and I was so excited too as the hours passed and I waited and I waited and I waited and it got later and later I finally realized he wasn't
coming I wasn't mad I was heartbroken I didn't even think of myself as a kid but even I knew you didn't do that to a kid but I forgave Floyd and played it cool the next time he came by and a few visits later he promised to take me out again I made sure when he left that he
remembered that we had plans and I'd be waiting for him and he said of course no problem see you next Saturday and the [ __ ] guy did it to me again but this time I wasn't broken I felt lousy but not crushed it was just now I knew who Floyd really was he was an adult I
couldn't count on this is a theme that's going to reappear over and over again quinton's Fierce self-belief and fierce Independence because he was surrounded by a bunch of adults he couldn't count on he was an adult I couldn't count on I also promised myself when I grew up that
I'd never do that to a kid now cut to 1978 I'm 15 going on 16 my mom work is requiring her to spend more and more time away from the house or she wanted to and that was a good excuse so she ran with it which happened to coincide with the age that I started getting in
trouble a lot a lot of fights in school skipping school and staying out late I was a young wise guy who thought he was tough so mom rented Floyd a spare room in our house with the provision that she keep an eye on her 16-year-old son I still thought Floyd was the coolest yeah
yeah years ago he stood me up but since that time I had gone through the whole trauma of being sent to Tennessee and put in the care of hillbilly alcoholics I think that was his grandparents so by that time Floyd being a flake was easy to forgive but it equipped me with two
pieces of information that would prove valuable as our relationship moved forward one I could not count on Floyd and two I cared more for Floyd than he cared for me I'm sure my mom thought she came up with the perfect solution for the whole what to do with Quenton
problem at the time I don't think she was aware of what a shady cat Floyd really was nor did she consider the ramifications of having her very impressionable young son spend so much time around such a sketchy dude it was sort of like moving Samuel Jackson's character and Jackie Brown orell Robbie
into your home and having him look after your 16-year-old boy for over a year and if you've seen Jackie Brown then you know that ordell Robbie was a character that was a Gunrunner killed people and attempted to manipulate every single person around him during the year of
1978 and some of 1979 Floyd and I saw a lot of movies together during this time the only family I had around me was my mom but to us her close circle of friends were our family her best friend Jackie was like my second mom her friend Lillian was like my Aunt Jackie's
Brother Don was like my uncle and they all looked out for me Floyd in his own way looked out for me too the difference between Floyd FL and them was while they loved me Floyd didn't give a [ __ ] about me don't get me wrong Floyd liked me we had a good time together you see a guy
like Floyd could like you and simultaneously not give a [ __ ] whether you lived or died one doesn't contradict the other if you're a guy like Floyd not to say Floyd didn't have affection for me but he was always looking out for number one and that wasn't me very much
like ordell Robbie and Jackie and Jackie Brown and it wasn't the worst thing in the world to hang around an adult who didn't treat you with kid gloves who told it to you like it is without too much concern for your feelings Floyd never lied to me about me he didn't care
enough about me to lie to me obviously sometimes this hurt my feelings but through Floyd I received an authentic Glimpse on the impression I was making on others Floyd moved out in 1979 when Floyd moved out he was gone never to be seen or heard from again and that was the story of Floyd I didn't
hold it against Floyd for not keeping in touch I'm sure he had enough of me and by that time he had done things to dis chant everybody in our Circle he was persona non gr with my mom due to some jewelry in a pawn shop and I'm sure other things that I wasn't aware of
nevertheless Floyd Ray Wilson left a lasting impression on the 15 and 16-year-old boy he mentored in the year of 197 78 as well as a bit of Legacy that he could have never imagined what exactly Floyd did for a living all these years was open to Wild speculation like
everyone I've ever met like him he always had stories of the days when he was living the high life but if he's 37 years old and moving into his old girlfriend's best friend's spare room and made to keep a lookout on her teenage son he couldn't have been doing so well Floyd was a very personable guy
yet he never had friends from the old days visit him which I can't say rang any bells back then but now I think it's due to the fact that he didn't have any old friends people were in Floyd's life for a while and then they weren't but Floyd did have an ambition Floyd wanted
to be a screenwriter by the time he moved into my house he had written two screenplays Floyd two screenplays were the first two screenplays I ever read the script that I loved the first script I ever read was Floyd's epic Western Saga called Billy Spencer the story
featured an incredibly cool black cowboy named Billy Spencer the essence of what Floyd was trying to accomplish in that script an epic Western with a black heroic Cowboy at its Center was the very heart of what I was trying to accomplish with d Jango Unchained but even more
influential than any script was having a man trying to be a screenwriter living in my house him writing him talking about a script me reading it made me consider for the first time writing movies it would be a long road from that year of 1978 to me completing my first
featurelength screenplay True Romance in September 1987 so another theme that's 11 years between the idea and then the completion of the idea that's going to be another main theme in in quent's life the fact that he uses ideas you know sometimes decades later after he discovers them
but due to Floyd's inspiration I tried writing screenplays I usually never got that far but I tried and eventually I succeeded so what happened to the script for Billy Spencer nothing I'm sure at the time of his death Floyd was the only one who still had a copy of it and
whenever he died wherever he was was it was disposed of with the rest of his meager possessions and whatever trash can it was tossed into was the final resting place of Floyd Ray Wilson's dream of a black cowboy hero named Billy Spencer my dream of a black cowboy hero
D Jango Unchained was not only red it was made by me into a worldwide smash a smash that resulted in me winning the Academy Award for best original screenplay by the time I walked up to that Podium and accepted the Oscar Floyd was long since dead I don't know how he died where he died or where he's buried
but I do know that I should have thanked him that was an excerpt from the book that we going to talk to about today which is Cinema speculation and it was written by Quenton Tarantino Tarantino is probably my favorite filmmaker this book is unlike any other book that I've
read so far for the podcast I'm going to read read from uh the front flap like the front cover about what like what what's going on here um and one of my favorite lines and that jumps out it says Tarantino is possibly the most joyously infectious movie lover alive
he's been obsessed with movies for 53 54 years and so it describes what this book this unusual book is at once film criticism film Theory a feat of reporting and a wonderful personal history it is all written in the singular voice recognizable immediately as Quenton
Tarantino with the rare perspective about Cinema Possible only from one of the greatest practitioners of the art form ever that idea is that it's written in the singular voice recognizable immediately as Quenton Tarantino I think the lesson for you and I is the
importance of having a very distinct distinctive brand I've seen all of Tarantino's movies multiple times I've watched all his interviews I hear his voice when I read this book I don't hear the words in my voice I hear it in his and that idea that he has a singular voice that's recognizable
immediately as his own remind me of something Warren Buffett said on the power of brand uh Warren said everyone has something in their mind about Disney when I say Universal Pictures or 20th Century Fox you don't have anything special in your mind if I say Disney you
have something special in your mind so is a mother going to walk in and pick out a universal pictures video and preference to Disney that's not going to happen and that is what you want to have in a business that is the moat and you want to Mo you want to widen that moat
and that is exactly what Tarantino has and what I would argue is one of his most valuable assets and so I think this book gives you is going to help give you and I an idea of like how did that come to be it's very unusual like it's not really an autobiography you're going to
like learn about his life but what he's doing is he's like writing these indepth reviews of these movies that he watched in the 70s and then early ' 80s there maybe like 8 to 10 that he goes in detail and it's through this analysis that we get an idea of what was going on
in his life at the time and so here's something that's going to jump out because it starts out he starts being becoming obsessed with movies at 7 years old this idea that true interest is revealed early is certainly true for Tarantino and his mom this is going to be a main theme his mom let him watch
adult movies at a very very young age and so something I thought about a lot was other parents would say this is a bad idea in fact some some other parents wouldn't let their kids play with Quenton because that he was watching all these crazy movies so other parents
would say okay this is a bad idea yet this supposed bad idea leads Quenton to his life's work and if you think about it like he's watching them say a decade before you know you're like 17 18 you're probably watching a bunch of R-rated movies he's watching them at s and 8 and
so it's almost like he had a decade of extra practice and study because of his mom's quote unquote irresponsible decision so let's jump right into that he says my young parents went to a lot of movies around this time and they usually brought me along I'm sure they
could have found someone else to pwn me off on but instead they allowed me to tag along but part of the reason I was allowed to tag along was because I knew how to keep my mouth shut I was encouraged to act mature and well behaved because if I acted like a childish pain in the ass I'd be left at
home with the babysitter I didn't want to stay at home I wanted to go out with them I wanted to be part of adult time when they took me to the movies it was my job to sit and watch the movie whether I liked it or not and so this is the first example of this lifelong hobby
that he's going to have where it says you know at the the the front cover he is possibly the most joyously infectious movie lover alive this idea of being in love with movies and then analyzing them is going to be the foundation of his life's work when he starts making his
own so he starts asking questions about the meaning of films from a very young age age there's a ton of examples like this in the book so he's talking to his mom after they just watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and so that movie ends with the implication but they
do not show it that all the people died and so he said what happened I remember asking they died my mom informed me they died I yelped yes Quenton they died my mother assured me how do you know I asked because when it froze that was what it was meant to imply why didn't
they show it I asked almost indignantly they should have shown it and as you know from his movie he definitely chose to show it when a child read this is the main point of why I'm reading this to you when a child reads an adult book there's going to be words they don't understand but
depending on the context and the paragraph surrounding the sentence sometimes they can figure it out same thing when a kid watches an adult movie on the ride home from the movies even if I didn't have questions my parents would talk about the movies we had just seen
these are some of my Fondest Memories these are some of my Fondest Memories it was interesting to review the movie that I had just seen from their from the perspective of their analysis so this indepth study of movies forms the basis of his entire career by the time he
starts writing his own scripts and making his own movies he has a comprehensive database of movies in his head if you were to have some kind of contest for movie history trivia of all the filmmakers alive I highly suspect that Tarantino would win back to this in that year of
1970 I saw a lot of intense [ __ ] he is seven he is seven in the year of 1970 because I was allowed to see things that other kids weren't I appeared sophisticated to my classmates and because I was watching the most challenging movies of the greatest movie making era in the history of Hollywood
they were right I was at some point when I realized I was seeing movies other parents weren't letting their children see I asked my mom about it she said Quenton I worry more about you watching the news a movie is not going to hurt you this was Quentin's response when his
mom said that to him his mom's name is Connie it is interesting that he refers to her by her first name but he says write [ __ ] on Connie and so before I go on it's it's really fascinating to think about this most parents would say that quinton's Mom was making the wrong
decision letting her young son watch these violent R-rated movies especially the movies in the 1970s he feels like that was the best age of movies if you go back and actually analyze he took a bunch this is this is going to be incredible this is again why you and I
know that we're on the right path over and over and over again we see the people that get to the top of their profession they have this comprehensive database in their head of the history of all the great work they came before them there's a ton of you know I've been
watching tun movies forever I didn't know until I read this book there's exact lines there's themes there's ideas that all he was doing is taking ideas from the 70s and then adapting him to his own work but going back to this it is impossible to read this book and not
think that her decision was helpful to his future career and this is something I was thinking about myself because I was watching these movies when I was you know I was watching Scarface and Godfather and all these you know these violent movies when I was like a small
kid yet with my own kids I don't let them do that I was watching you know prob I think I watched I this is crazy so if people were to ask me they're like you know I look at Founders is like one giant conversation on the history of Entrepreneurship that I'm just constantly updating every week and I
hope to have you know for the rest of my life so I really don't look at it as yeah they're updated in separate episodes but it's just one conversation but if you ask me like what I think the best episode I ever was capable of making I think the best episode I've
ever made so far was episode 311 on James Cameron and what happened with that is I kept trying to sit down and record I couldn't stop finding more interesting things about James Cameron and so I kept pushing it back and pushing it back and pushing it back I did the exact same thing I've been in
this Quenton Tarantino deep hole for you know two over two weeks because I can't stop finding interesting fascinating things about this guy and so you read this book and he mentions a movie he made or then I'm watching a bunch of interviews with him at the same time so
then I go back and watch the movie I'm like oh I missed that I didn't even understand that the first time and so during this time I remember my daughter who's only 11 she comes in just I was like you can't like listen I love you i' would love to spend a ton of time with
you there's no way that you can watch in glorious bastards or D Jango Unchained or Pulp Fiction which are the movies I've been watching and I'm making that decision with my daughter and it probably is the right decision in the face of the fact that you know everybody
said this is irresponsible they're literally not letting friends at school their parents are not letting them hang out with quenon because what his mom lets him see and there's just impossible it is absolutely impossible to read this book and not realize that that was actually
the right decision the the obsession of movies grabs him right at a very young age and it never lets him go I love this idea that people don't have ideas ideas have people and I think that's a great explanation of what happened with Tarantino there's a podcast I listen to
there's a bunch of podcasts and interviews I listen to to prep for this conversation as well and one of them was on uh he was he was interviewed by his friend Brian coppelman on on the podcast the moment and what was fascinating is Tarantino says that like this comes
naturally like he thinks in movies so he's going to talk over and over again about all the books that he reads he's obsessed with he's that's not going to surprise you uh he's obsessed with reading biographies and autobiographies of filmmakers actors all kinds of people
but he says when he reads books that he thinks in terms of movies so he literally will make the book that he's reading into a movie in his head and so he says as he reads he puts a notepad next to him where then he starts writing casting lists he like you know there might be 15 characters in the novel he's
reading or biography or autobiography he's reading and he starts like okay well who if this was if this book was a movie who would play that he starts adapting the plot he's like okay well I can I would add uh I would add to this like a plotline or I'd remove that or I
would do it this way and he was like that from a very young age it was very fascinating the reason I brought this up is because he talks about you know I felt I was more sophisticated than my classmates because I was watching the most challenging movies of the greatest
movie making era in the history of Hollywood what was interesting is he was so uninterested in school work cuz he was so obsessed with movies that people thought he was Dumb and so if he didn't care about school work it was like zero or 100 right he like I'm going to be
completely obsessed with movies any of my school workk that's not movies I don't care about but he was reading an adult level way he's obviously not stupid he was reading an adult level way before a lot of the other kids and so people would make fun of him because he
got bad grades and he said that there was one supportive teacher this guy named Mr Simpson and quinton's in like a public school and he's like listen Mr Simpson saw something in me he thought I was special he didn't he thought I was vastly underperforming because I would
you know read I could read and have intelligent conversations about what I'm reading but I wasn't doing any school work and so this guy this teacher devised an entire separate curriculum just for him and when other people in the class would make fun of Quenton and say oh quinton's kind of dumb Mr Simpson
would get up and he would stop like the bullying he said listen Quinton is reading on a level so far superior to you he's reading on an adult level he's reading on my level is what Mr Simpson would say and then another interesting clue about the depth of his obsession is
that he starts writing screenplays instead of doing his school work and he's like you know why isn't the school he says I was a little surprised that the school wasn't looking at this as an academic thing they looked at my writing and creating stories as a defiant Act of
rebellion and they did that because essentially Tarantino is creating his own curriculum instead of just regurgitating or accepting what they're giving him to learn so then in the book he starts to talk about his childhood there is a million uh notes that I have left to that I left to myself as I'm
reading this book where is quinton's Dad where's his dad where's his dad I'm asking this over and over again because his stepfather he he referred to his parents uh earlier that's his stepfather Kurt turns out didn't know it's never mentioned in this book but it's obvious
that he's like yearning for some kind of male like positive male uh role model or figure in his life and I don't think he ever found one as you heard he's hanging out with orell Robbie Floyd Ray Wilson when he's like you know 16 17 that's not the person I want my son with uh when
he's 16 or 17 and what I I found out later that he never knew his dad I think his mom got pregnant super early I I would guess I couldn't find the exact date but my guess is based on my what I like the context around it it's like probably 18 maybe 20 something like that
maybe 21 and so he never met his biological dad his dad was never there but his mom winds up getting divorced from his stepdad and then when Quenton is 10 years old this is what I meant about one of the main themes is that this kid had to grow up this guy I I
should say or I guess he was a kid this kid grew up fast and so now he's living with his mother in an apartment he grew up in La okay they're all cocktail waitresses and it's his mom his her and her two best friends Jackie and Lillian and so he describes this time in his
life he says all three were young hip good-looking women in the funky 7s with a penchant for dating professional athletes remember he is 10 during this time my mother was dating a professional football player named Reggie Reggie asked to hang out with me being a
football player he asked does Quenton like football she told him no he likes movies well as luck would have it so did Reggie and this one ends up being a very important Reggie is not going to stick around and this is where the weird thing that's in the book like these guys are
you know there's like a let's just say a steady stream of uh people coming in and out a series of men uh that his mom were dating and in some of those men Quenton would watch movies with and one of those guys introduced him to this genre that's going to be that came about in the 70s
that is hugely influential to quent's movie career and I think it's pronounced black sploitation and so Reg introduces him to this genre cuz he says my little face was the only white face in the audience that was my first movie in an all black movie theater in a black neighborhood
and he absolutely loved it he says as far as I was concerned mom could marry this cat to one degree now this is crazy this is all going to tie together and then you see the influence on his work later but it says to one degree or another I've spent my entire life since
both attending movies and making them trying to recreate that experience of watching a brand new Jim Brown film on a Saturday night in a black Cinema in 1972 the mass this is the interesting part which I didn't put together again this is why I think it was so helpful to
me to constantly like put off like I sat down I was like oh I'm not ready I'm not ready I can't I keep finding more interesting things because I didn't understand the full context around this till you know two weeks maybe a week and a half after I read this the massive
theater full of black males cheered in a way that 99-year-old little me had never experienced in a movie before at the time remember I kept asking where's quinton's Dad where is quinton's Dad at the time living with the single mother it was the most masculine experience I had ever been part of remember this
scene that reappears over and over again in these books you can always understand the son by the story of his father the story of the father is embedded in the son quen didn't know his father and so I'm watching this I might do a completely separate episode on it
because it's so it's so excellent I might I'm going to have to do another Quinton episode uh down the line but he's he's being interviewed by Robert Rodriguez in this series called director's chair and what they also do is you know it's directors interviewing directors and then they also take
questions from other directors and one of them was very surprising they're like hey are you ever going to do I think maybe Francis for Copo was going to ask ask him the question too which is fascinating because you can always understand the son by the story of his
father the story of the father is embedded in the Sun comes from Francis Ford cop's biography that I covered back on 242 wow I didn't put that together till just now so that's incredible he as so I'm almost positive Francis for Copo one to ask him the question it's like
are you ever going to do anything more autobiographical is it always going to be like somebody you know Quenton writes all of his movies I think he wrote every single one except for Jackie Brown and so he says like he did do auto this is going to be surprising this is shocking
to me that the most autobiographical film that he did was Kill Bill what the hell what do you mean how is that even possible if you've seen Kill Bill one and two which also interesting enough Quenton thinks it's just one movie he thinks of Kill Bill one and two as one
movie but he said it was more the most autobi autobiographical movie that he ever did he just hid it under a bunch of metaphor and stories and everything else and so I'm rewatching Kill Bill and there's a line about Bill in Kill Bill 2 that I think applies to Tarantino if you
combine this book with his movies with these interviews with that random question and he says like most men who never knew their father Bill collected father figures I think that was what Quenton was doing and the way he did it was by movies he was looking for these
male father figures in movies and what's fascinating is how much I relate to that my friend Jeremy gon has this ability to get right to the heart of the matter one time and one time just randomly said to me oh it's pretty obvious what you're doing with the podcast so what do you
mean and he said in your entire family there's never been a successful Ro model so that's what you're doing with these biographies it's this obsessive search for a successful blueprint that you can emulate and I had never consciously had that thought before but as soon as it
came out of his mouth I was like oh he's right and so let's go back to Tarantino's childhood later on in life he was he was welln uh for his film knowledge and his video recommendations so like when he was working at he his job he's working minimum wage trying to write scripts uh he's working at video
archives which is a video rental place in Manhattan Beach but everybody in the local community knew knew about the the the weird movie nerd at the video archives because he had this extensive film knowledge and video uh like video recommendations that would come directly
from his brain later on life like when people he said when people ask me if I went to film school I tell them no I went to films and so this entire book is teaching you the importance of reps reps reps Tarantino was King on a lot of reps at a very young age he talks about the
fact that he would go to double and triple features I don't think they even do this in movie theaters anymore it's like you watch one movie then they immediately after start playing the second movie and then in some cases they immediately after playing a third movie
you're sitting in the movie theater for 7 8 N9 hours the depth of his obsession cannot be understated a young Tarantino he for some reason he doesn't mention why but he has a child psychologist and he says when he does sessions with her all they would talk about is the movies
that they saw and so this is what a typical weekend would look like uh between the ages of 8 to 11 years old my mom would drive me to the cinema on a Saturday on sat Saturday and Sunday afternoon then drop me off and come back and pick me up four or 5 hours later and
so this goes back to his mom's unusual unusually relaxed attitude about movies leading directly to his phenomenal career Because by the time he starts making movies and writing his own scripts you know 11 15 years later he's got this encyclopedic knowledge of his industry
just like Charlie merer just like Sam zel just like Kobe Bryant just like Magnus Carl the dominant chess player I was listening to my friend Patrick's uh podcast andest like the best it's episode 348 I'll link it down below but it's uh Patrick and John cson which are
the founders of stripe and the title of the episode is a business state of mind but they mentioned something in that episode that was very fascinating that Magnus Carlson who's you know dominating chess when he was younger he entered some chess trivia contest it was just
chess trivia and he won it he knew the most chess trivia out of anyone who in this contest and that's this is I'm I'm quoting from the episode he knew the most chess trivia out of anyone who was in this contest and that's not a coincidence that the world's number one player has also studied the most about
all chess history he's extremely knowledgeable on that you could say the exact same thing about Tarantino and so if you study Tarantino's love and dedication to his craft you can't help but compare it to your love and dedication to your own and so there's an incredible story about
this and it's very simple like how bad do you actually want it you can tell that Tarantino deeply deeply wanted it this story I'm about to tell you takes place a decade a decade before he writes his first su he successfully sells his first screenplay says when I saw the
movie Rolling Thunder with my mother and her boyfriend Marco in 1977 it blew my [ __ ] mind I loved Rolling Thunder for a period of 10 years I followed it all over Los Angeles whenever and wherever it played this is way before Home Dep or Home Depot this is before home video
this before streaming you literally had to wait until it was they would replay movies over and over again I don't even think they do this now and then he would go all over the city of Los Angeles looking for this I did this before I knew how to drive a car or before I had
a car I would travel by bus hours away from my home to some really sketchy neighborhoods to see Rolling Thunder after I watched the film a few times I began to have a deeper understanding of it again this is another thing he will tell over and over again you hear this
in conversations you hear this in writing he's like oh yeah I watched that movie 15 times I watch that movie six times it's not one or two movies he did this for he repetition repetition repetition repetition you know what's insane Tarantino made his own readwise
he made his own Founders notes he had he has scrapbooks so this is what he does he's comparing uh his love and dedication to to films compared to this other director and he says this guy didn't nor did he keep scrapbooks make notes and keep files on index cards of all the movies he saw growing up like I
did that is rewise and Founders notes before software he's got the analog version of that he's got a database of index cards of every single thing and files on all the movies he had growing up it would be almost impossible to approach whatever you're working on like
Tarantino approach what he was working on and not come out successful on the other side but this story is not over so he's okay I'll get on a bus I will travel by bus for hours just to see this movie I will watch it over and over and over again so I can have a deeper understanding of the film this is
exactly like Napoleon the advice Napoleon gave you and I a couple weeks ago on episode 337 what did he say you know do you watch one movie one time do you read a book one time do you listen to the podcast one time well good you're going to get dusted by the people that
repeat repeat repeat and put in more reps Depon said read over and over again the campaigns of Alexander Hannibal Caesar uh Frederick the great make them your models this is the only way to become a great General to master the secrets of the Art of War with your own
genius enlightened by this study Quenton Tarantino was enlightening his own genius by this study by building this database by taking these notes by going to Such Great Lengths and what does he do next that film rolling thunder made me a champion of its director John Flynn
so much so that I sought out I sought him out at 19 to interview him how does he do that how did I man manage that simple but not easy I looked up every John Flynn in the phone book called them up and asked them is this John Flynn if they said yes then I asked him the John
Flynn who directed Rolling Thunder till eventually one said yes it is who is this wow it's [ __ ] him I had never spoken to a movie director before no less the director of one of my favorite movies so I introduced myself and told him I was writing a book on film directors and could we get together an
interview and could I interview him about his career and he agreed and we set a time and he invited me over uh to come over to his house and conduct the interview as we sat down in his living room to conduct the interview I began asking my questions and testing my
theories about Rolling Thunder I was so inexperienced at what I was doing that I brought my tape recorder with me but I only brought one cassette I could not imagine him giving me more than an hour so once obviously did so once both sides of the tape were done I didn't want to
look like an idiot so I just kept flipping it over and re-recording over what I had just recorded so all the stuff on his early career was lost forever that is the end of that story that is why I titled that story how bad do you want it this is there's another story that you and I have talked about
in the past Steve Jobs was 14 years old looks up Bill huet who's the founder the co-founder of HP right he's got a question he wants to make frequency counters he calls him up Bill answers the phone he's like hey I'm Steve Jobs I'm 14 years old uh I want to make free
frequency counters can I have some extra parts bill laughs and laughs and laughs thought was hilarious gives him the parts and gives him a summer job on the assembly line at HP when he's like 14 years old assembling frequency counters so I want to go back to where
this started this unexpected benefit of his mom's unusually relaxed attitude about these violent movies these R-rated movies these adult movies right that directly leads to the the you know decade extra of time and Reps and studies and which that in turn leads to this
encyclopedic encyclopedic knowledge of his industry the the the people I mentioned earlier in addition to Napoleon was Charlie merer Sam zel and Kobe I didn't get a chance to meet Kobe before he passed away unfortunately but I got a chance to meet both Charlie monger and Sam zel before they died and
I'm telling you right now I spoke directly to Charlie Munger for three hours could ask him any question I wanted I spoke to samel for two hours could ask him any single question I want they know this stuff down pat and I met Sam zel before I met Charlie monger and
I remember coming back to my house and telling my wife I was like I want that I want that at 81 years old right I didn't know he was going to die six months later or maybe even less than that four months later but you know to be he was still so fired up about what he was
doing he wanted like he didn't he's like what am I going to retire there's nothing to retire from you know the guy's got billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars not doing it for money doing it for the love saying he's going to do deals so he dies
but what I what I came back from that that conversation was you know he started he was he had 61 years experience as an entrepreneur and I'm supposed to be the business history guy and for 2 hours there's not one thing that I could bring up that Sam zel didn't already know and I came back and
I remember telling my wife I was like I know I'm on the right path you don't sell a company for $38 billion like samel did then you learn all this [ __ ] you don't make Incredible movies like jeno and chain and glorious bastards and pul fiction and then learn all this [ __ ]
you learn it way for in some cases decades before you use it there's no way you can tell me that you and I are not on the right path that that this this complete dedication to trying to condense clarify this comprehensive knowledge of History great entrepreneurs
we're clearly on the right path you see it over and over and over again in these people that get to the top of their professions the people that literally get become great at what they do whether it's War chess politics business filmm it's all the same Athletics you see it
over and over and over again and the great thing is Tarantino is much older than I am much more accomplished than I am and I'm like oh there's I thought I was dedicated to this I was like oh there's levels to this there's a great example he's constantly comparing and
contrasting you know some filmmakers he likes but he's like oh it's it's a job to them it's an obsession with me and so he talks about uh directors like Sam pekena and Don Sig sigle who made great films Don seagull made uh Dirty Harry they were genre film Masters that's what
Tarantino calls them but he said says but they didn't make genre film films the way that I do as students of genre Sima we make films because we love genre films they made genre films because they were good at it and that's what the studios would hire them to do and so
when Tarantino studies other people just like when I study him it's like oh that fires me up I want that just like what I said to my wife when I met Sam zel I want that Tarantino before he makes movies he starts seeing other people that aren't treating this like a job they're treating it like
something they have to do the people he's about to go into and you know Tarantino even if he couldn't figure out a way to do it professionally he was going to make films no matter what for money or not for money he was going to do it no matter what and so he starts
seeing the movie brats this is in the 1970s and he's like oh my God they're film nerds like me and so I've done a bunch of episodes on the movie brats these are the first so Tarantino is going to give us some background here right they're the first for film School educated generation of young directors
that were raised on television so you're thinking Francis Ford Copa Brian DePalma Martin scace George Lucas Steven Spielberg this part is important right so he's saying what set the movie Bratz apart from the earlier generation of directors that had come before them even
more than than their youth and the film school education was the fact that they were film Geeks true interest is revealed early right you can find somebody that's going to want to make film wants to play basketball wants to start businesses wants to invest you you
look at their childhood there's going to be signs early people don't have ideas ideas have people the ideas grab them early when I'm reading this listen I it should be obvious to you this is not a job to me I am completely and utterly obsessed I work on Founders podcast
seven days a week well what was I doing before that I the first time I discovered a podcast was in 2010 you know i' been obsessed with uh you radio spoken word like it was so hard to find like I grew up there was no you know obviously no internet uh well later on
in my childhood there's internet but you'd have to listen to like AM radio and then I remember the day where like it was magic where I didn't have to be in the car trying to listen to AM radio uh you know I listen to am radi on everything politics Sports uh religion advice columns everything and um I
remember the day when you could the first time you could actually uh listen not in your car you could uh you could stream it on in your browser like it would the internet beats were slow back in it would like buffer sometimes even though it was just audio it's like this
is incredible but the first time I discovered an actual podcast which changed everything because it's like oh it's independent since you have a radio station in your pocket and you can listen anytime you want was in 2010 from 2010 to 2016 right I started this podcast in 2016 I listen to thousands of
episodes and so you're seeing a very similar thing with Tarantino and then the movie brats cuz he's like oh they're nerds and he says they loved movies they dreamed of movies they even received degrees in movies back when that was a dubious major and so this is what
Tarantino is realizing why that's so important because that's how you truly get great at what you're doing get to the top of your profession because he sees jaws and so this is Tarantino on Steven Spielberg and greatness when Jaws came out in 1975 it was easily the best
movie ever made nothing ever made before it came close because For the First Time the man at the helm wasn't execut a studio assignment but a natural born filmmaker genius who grooved on exactly this kind of movie and would kill himself to deliver the exact version of
it that was in his head and there's another time in the book that he brings up jaws and Steven Spielberg he says Steven Spielberg's Jaws is one of the greatest movies ever made because one of the most talented filmmakers who ever lived when he was young remember this
part because Quenton has made it public that his next movie is intends his next movie to be his last and I'll get there right after this so I don't forget just remember this the when he was young par Steph Spielberg Jaws is one of the greatest movies ever made because one of
the most talented filmmakers who ever lived when he was young got his hands on the right material knew what he had and killed himself to deliver the best version of that movie that he could so let me put the book down I need to go to my notes oh in fact this is hilarious so
one of the things I was doing was I bought all of the all of his movies and a few of them came with like extra like you know there's like back in the day when you'd buy DVDs they'd have like not even extra scenes but like interviews and stuff and so one of the
extra scenes from his movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood ends with Tarantino leading a chance while they're on set I think they close down Hollywood Boulevard to do that scene and he's leading a chant with his entire crew because we love making movies because we
love making movies because we love making movies that was his last the last film he's made so far he's got to be close to you know 60 years old at the time and yet you can picture if you read this book and you spend time studying him you knew that he he would do the
exact same thing when he was 10 1525 and so one of the interviews I watched with Tarantino was when Tarantino came on Joe Rogan's podcast to promote his book once upon a time in Hollywood and you know he was Joe kept pushing him was like why like I'm a huge fan why are you trying to like I don't
want you to stop making movies and Tarantino says he goes I want to leave on top so I'm planning my next movie to be my last I want to leave the audience one more but also the fact that I know about film history influences that decision so what do you mean he goes I
know about film history film directors do not get better as they get older that's what Tarantino said film directors do not get better as they get older I don't want to leave when my powers of movie making and movie making abilities are diminished and he used the
example of Muhammad Ali fighting too long you know he wants to leave he wants to be the Muhammad Ali that leaves before he fights Leon Spinx but again I love love this idea this this historic database that he has in his mind of film history he knows I like I'm not learning
is not memorizing information right learning is changing your behavior Quenton clearly is learning from history because he's using those ideas in his work and you can see them and so this one he's like I have to do this film directors do not get better as they get
older so then I want to bring up the fact that he starts making movies in the 90s right he was in his influences were in the 70s and the the way he made movies in his 90s were not only influenced by the 70s they also influenced by the 80s in the 70s he was emulating what he liked in the 80s he
was trying to do the opposite of what he hated and so he says after growing up in the any Go 70s the 80s marked it as a play it safe decade the 80s was a horrible decade the restrictions Hollywood imposed on their product were self-imposed the harshest form of censorship is self censorship and so he
talks about the ' 80s where when every movie had to have a happy ending everything had to be predictable and so the only way to fight against that is to build remember there's no point in criticizing just build what you want to see in the world and that's exactly what
he did and so keep in mind he's writing so I don't know if I think I've said this already but if just in case I i' got a little excited so just in case I forgot Tarantino is like making $150 a week working at a video rental store that's what he was doing when he's
writing his first script the plan was to try to sell script the first script he sells is True Romance then use that money to fund his first movie which winds up being reservo dogs and so this is Tarantino looking looking back on this point of his life where he's just
refusing to self-censor and he's refusing to play it safe and so he writes I remember when I worked at the Manhattan Beach video store video archives and I would talk to the other employees about the types of movies that I wanted to make and the things I wanted
to do inside of those movies and their response would be Quenton they won't let you do that to which I replied back who the [ __ ] are they and who is going to stop me they can go [ __ ] themselves I wasn't a professional filmmaker back then I was a Brash know it film geek okay his
self-confidence uh obviously when you hear him speak when you hear him right excessively high it was like that way before belief comes before ability he before he ever made a movie he had self-confidence that he could make the movie and one of his great friends is the other filmmaker Robert Rodriguez and
he even brought it up in the interview like oh no you know you're obviously very self-confident and they were self-confident back when they were like kids they were talking about hanging out when they were they were first trying to make it they'd go to like quinton's like
crappy apartment and watch movies all day I think they were in like their early 20s when they were doing this and quen was like that back then and so you see that he's like you know I'm not going to let them stop me forget them I wasn't a professional filmmaker back
then I was a Brash know at all geek yet once I graduated to a professional filmmaker I never did let they stop me viewers can accept my work or reject it they can deem it good bad or with indifference but I've always this is such an interesting this is a great line such an interesting idea but I've always
approached my cinema with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome a fearlessness that comes to me naturally I've always approached my cinema with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome a fearlessness that comes to me naturally and you know that is true because he is he he is
going against the trend he is swimming remember last week David ogy said only dead fish go with the flow Tarantino is not a dead fish he's not going with the flow he's making Reservoir Dogs coming off to 8s and so he says the people making movies at this time didn't think
audience cared whether or not the Happy Endings they gave them made sense or not CU to Tarantino they don't make sense like you had this whole story and then you have to you have to do this weird trist that doesn't make any sense just to give it a happy ending so
audiences are are happy right now this is fascinating Tarantino makes the movies he wanted to see even at the time he knew that the mass audiences liked movies that he hated right so he's like listen I hate what the people making movies are doing and he says while I'd like to say those Hollywood
professionals were wrong I'm not sure they were how would Tarantino know that how would they know that you know he's like hey I would love for them to be wrong I'm not sure that they were and think about it he's not sure that they were but he still goes back he still be
still he he still Fearless in making in approaching the cinema and making the movie that he wants to see right because at video archives remember while this is going on he's working in the video story he's talking to customers viewers of movies and so he says at video archives
I dealt closely with the movie watching public if usually on a one-on-one basis much closer than any Hollywood Executives and for the most most part they didn't care how unrealistic or implausible the Jerry rigged climaxes they were spoonfed were they just didn't want the movie to end like a bummer it's
very obvious that Tarantino has a perspective he has a set of ideals he has a way he wants things done in fact I watched this clip of Jamie Fox being interviewed by Howard Stern and he talks about what it was like working with quent Tarantino and Jamie Fox says that
on set Tarantino is a tyrant and he quote won't let you [ __ ] his film up and so Howard Stern was surprised by that and he's like oh you must you know you must not like that and his whole point was like no with him Jamie Fox was very it's very obvious like Tarantino knows
his stuff he cares deeply he's not going to let this fail he's going to get the best performance possible out of you and so the followup question was like expecting a negative answer you know oh like of course you wouldn't like would you work with quent Tarantino again the
the expected answer would no of course not he was a tyrant you know he would be yelling and scream in and very ad him about how things he wanted to be and yet Jamie Fox said a thousand times a thousand times I would work with Quenton Tarantino again and what's incredible is
this approach this like dedication to the fact that hey I'm going to make my movies with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome everybody even early in his career okay everybody tries to get him to do things the way that they want him to do things and he just refuses he
just says no over and over again no no not doing that early in his career a lot of his movies were financed by the Weinstein Company and Harvey Weinstein walks up to him and they're they are uh showcasing Reservoir Dogs this is before it's released to on like the like the
film festival circuit and what they're noticing is there's a scene in resir dogs where they're cutting a guy's ear off and some percentage of the audience is just not reacting well to that they get up and they walk out they're very upset and so you know they're trying to
make the point to Tarantino is like hey if you just remove that scene then you know more people watch the movie and Taran just said no over and over again he like nope it's staying in it's my movie that scene's important that's exactly the movie is exactly what I want
it to be that is staying in and there this constant no no no and refusing to budge everybody else budges because it is more important to Quenton than it is to them another example that Tarantino gives is he has some unusual cast decisions and you'll see that over and over again at the time he cast John
Travolta in pul fiction John Travolta was thought of was like a has been right now he winds up his career was revived after Paul fiction goes on to do a bunch of other movies but before then everybody's like oh it's like that that was that guy dancing in the you know
1970s he's doing like the baby movies now like No And so they told him he sends this cast list and they're like we like all the names but you have to take trol off there and he's like I'm not taking John trol off there and again he just says no no no it goes back to this
idea that I'm approaching my cinema with a fearlessness of the eventual outcome and in the case of pul f this is fascinating um you think about movies to me right the filmmaker's career is fascinating you could think about each individual movie as like a little miniature business right that's
put together for a c certain set of time I think there's a lot of similarities between a director and an entrepreneur there's a line from a biography of Robert friand which I covered I don't know five years ago he was uh the guy that was a huge influence on Steve Jobs
early in his life but he says promoting a stock or building a business is like making a movie you've got to have stars prop and good script and so you can think of every single film that tarantina or any other filmmaker for that matter has made is like a miniature
business and so look at some of the capital efficiency here pull fiction cost $8 million to make it got $ 213 million just as the box office so all these numbers I went and pulled eight out of the 10 movies so reservo dogs you know made a little bit of money uh at box
office you know but it cost very little I think I think it was like 1.2 million and made like 3 million something like that and then the only one that kind of flopped or broke even none of his movies lost money but he considers uh death Death Proof a flop because I think it
just made back what they invested but if you take the top eight out of the 10 movies that Tarantino has made so far they've cost about $400 million to make and they've yielded almost two billion at the box office and that's just the box office you know I just said this
week I bought a bunch of them you know $15 a pop on on Apple they're streaming they're still selling but pul fiction 8 million to make two 23 million at the box office Jackie Brown 12 million to make 74 million at the box office Kill Bill volume 1 30 million to make 180 million at the box office and glorious
bastards that's probably my favorite Taran tuno movie uh 70 million to make 321 million at the box office Django cost 100 million to make brought in 426 million almost a half a billion dollars at the box office and it goes on and on and on but this idea like these are like
miniature businesses right and so everybody's like you can't have John Travolta was you know probably the most important arguably the most important character in that movie maybe Samuel Jackson you know uh in Pulp Fiction played the bigger bigger role but that
$8 million and it yielded 2113 million at the box office the movie's been out wet for 25 30 years how much money's it made since then okay so there's one more story that I want to tell you it's about quen Tarantino's favorite film critic and I think it ties a lot of the ideas
um that I took away from studying Tarantino one is that if you love your work that will increase your enjoyment of your life uh number two is the importance of knowing more about your industry than anyone else number three is that passion and enthusiasm is infectious you are I've never seen you
know these are movies that came out 50 years ago in some cases I've never seen them and yet just reading about Tarantino's interpretation of them and love of them makes you love them or love his enthusiasm for them and then four the importance of building this
historical database that you can then use and that can influence and benefit your work many many years into the future we have no idea as we're about to see here there's going to be examples of books you read hopefully podcasts you listen to like this one where you're
going to hear something and you're going to use that 10 15 20 years into the future and so he starts out comparing and contrasting the way that Kevin Thomas approaches his work is the direct opposite of how most people approach theirs in the same uh industry most critics writing for newspapers and
magazines set themselves up as superior to the films that they were paid to review which I could never understand because judging from their writing this was clearly not the case they looked down on Films they gave pleasure and on filmmakers who had an understanding of
the audience that they did not as a kid who loved movies and paid to see pretty much everything I just thought they were snide [ __ ] today as a much older and wiser man I realize the extent of how unhappy they must have been they wrote with the demeanor of somebody who hates
their life and hates their job Kevin Thomas reviewed movies for the Los Angeles Times the the LA Times was the morning newspaper that most agents in studio Executives read so he's influential not only to a young quent Tarantino but also people working in the
industry you know decade before maybe decade maybe half a decade before Tarantino breaks him years later at the Torrance Public Library I looked up one of his reviews okay if you find yourself at a public library looking for a review of a movie that came out 20 years
earlier that is a sign that you are obsessed that is a sign that you have maneuvered yourself into the exact industry you should be working in and so he talks about the fact that Kevin loved he was very passionate again passionate enthusiasm and affection that Kevin loved the movie for the
review that he's reading Quenton re Quenton goes to watch it he says after 20 minutes I walked out on this one too but I never begrudged Kevin Thomas his enthusiasm did I waste money yeah but I'm not going to pretend I even gave a [ __ ] about that I liked Kevin Thomas so
much I was glad that he at least had a good time think about the contrast right where he started this where he's like you know I'm reading these critics for newspapers oh and then you realize they they hate their lives they hate their jobs and then he's reading Kevin Thomas
Kevin's like hyped up about this movie Quenton who loves movies goes to see like oh I didn't like this movie but I'm still happy because at least Kevin loved it passion and enthusiasm is infectious and so what's never stated but it's also implied if you read the story is like oh
Kevin was just like quint in the sense that he maneuvered himself into a job he loved which then increases your enjoyment of overall your life right then he goes into the this importance of having this historical database in your head because you never know when you're
going to use these ideas and so here's an example of that one review Kevin Thomas wrote In 1980 that I read when I was 18 years old was to have a significant impact on my film 17 years later so it was a review this is going to so he's he's 18 uh he's going to use
this 17 years later right uh it was a review for a Jaws ripoff called alligator in his review of this GI alligator movie okay which which Kevin called wellmade and lots of fun Kevin focused on two lead performances one of those lead performances was this was a young Robert forer remember Quenton is
18 years old when he's reading this review about this performance of this actor named Robert Forster 15 years later when I was writing my adaptation to what would turn into the movie Jackie Brown I had to consider who was going to play the likable lead male character
Bale Bond Max Cherry there was something about Forester in alligator that really stuck with me I watched the movie again and I felt that the character from alligator could be Max Cherry just 15 years earlier so I started writing the script as if he was would I have done
that without Kevin Thomas's highlighting Forester so positively in his review no in the end what made Kevin Thomas so unique in the world of the 70s and ' 80s film criticism he seemed like one of the only few practitioners who truly enjoyed their job and consequently their life I
loved reading him growing up and practically considered him a friend in 1994 I won an award for Pulp Fiction from the Los Angeles Film critics Association when I stepped up to the podium and looked out before the audience of La critics my first marks to the room were gee thanks now I finally
know what Kevin Thomas looks like and that is where I'll leave it for the full story highly recommend reading the book if you buy the book using the link that's in the show notes in your podcast player or available at Founders podcast.com you'll be supporting this
podcast at the same time that is 344 books down 1,000 too and I'll talk to you again soon spending two weeks studying Tarantino has got me completely fired up I don't know if I'm done making podcasts on them I might make the next episode might be on them again I have a
lot of material that I still want to talk about but the main thing I want to talk about you real quick and I I can keep this real short is I can't get over the fact that you know how Tarantino had this historical database in his head of the movie industry like the entire
history of the movie industry it was in his head it's something that he could call on and that he not only could call on but he called on multiple times and he would use in his work work later on I really believe that Sage which is the new feature of Founders notes is that
for you but for the entire history of Entrepreneurship for the entire entrepreneurship industry it's kind of blowing my mind how you know because I told you since 2018 I've been I I did what Tarantino did I didn't even know that he did this until I read this book
but just like he was cataloging and making index cards and all the things of all the movies that he had been watching since or since he was a kid since 2018 all the books for every single book that I've uh read for this podcast I've been adding in all my highlights all my notes
into this database called readwise into this app called readwise which allows me to search it to review it uh go there's a bunch of different ways you can like you can search by book you can search by highlight feed you can search by keyword and so for the last six months I think
you already know this but for the last six months I partnered with them I was like Hey I was getting a bunch of messages over the years of people saying Hey I want access to all your notes and highlights and so I partnered with the team of readwise to build Founders
notes.com Founders notes.com is where you sign up to get this if you haven't done so already and you could see exactly what I see you see every single note every single highlight you can search through everything that I have uh that all all the notes and highlights that I have is just like giant
searchable database about like the collected knowledge of History entrepreneurs that I've gathered over since 2018 so six years or whatever that's been then I started adding other features like putting in every single transcript into Founders notes for every single episode episod then you could
search every single word I've ever ever uttered on the podcast and then I had this idea for a feature to build an AI assistant on top of that and so in addition to you being able to read all my notes highlights searching everything reading all the transcripts you can do
that Sage can do this for you and it's insane because you know I have if you you've heard me speak on other podcasts you've heard me speak publicly uh you know I don't know what people are going to ask me in advance and I'll just use that historical databases in my mind to
answer just take another question and run it through everything I've learned from studying this podcast or building this podcast and then answer their question except Sage does it has a perfect memory so what Sage is I was I was calling this you know this feature I
couldn't figure out what to name it I was going to call Founders chat GPT or Founders GPT uh I was going to call Founders chat and I was like but that's not really what what it is and so somebody that was actually in the private beta so Sage is available to every single person that has access to
Founders notes if you already have it you can use this immediately if you haven't signed up you should sign up like exactly I mean I I don't know how you're going to listen to the podcast you just listen to and not realize how valuable it is to have this historical
database in your head and Sage allows you to have this on demand anytime you want and so somebody that was in the private beta was testing Sage there's a bunch of people the existing subscribers of Founders notes they were testing it and he sent me an email like listen this
Founders chat all these other names that you have ai assistant all the stuff it's not actually it's not a good description of what you've built and he's like why don't you call it sage and then he sent me the the definition and when I think of sage I think of Charlie Munger and is
exactly what Charlie had in his mind and so the sage has two main definitions it's a profoundly wise person this refers to someone with a deep understanding of Life accumulated knowledge and sound judgment that is every single person that you and I have ever studied on the podcast except Sage
allows you to do this with across hundreds of these kind of people they are often looked to for guidance and advice that's exactly why I'm reading these books it's exactly why I'm making the podcast right and then it says uh Sage is wise Discerning discerning are
prudent this describes someone who shows good judgment and makes well-considered decisions and so what Sage does right when you ask Sage a question and I'll leave a list of the questions a bunch of people have been sending me questions uh that they've asked they've gotten great
responses uh from about the questions they have in their work like how do I find new customers questions on distribution marketing all kinds of different things that that you uh decisions you have to make in your career and so what I'm eventually going to do is uh first of all Sage right now
is available at founders notes.com go to founders.com and get it okay now eventually I already realized this is like I called the one of the founders at rewise this week I was like Sage needs to be its own app we've got to figure out a way let's let's start building
this immediately this one feature will be it'll always be available in Founders notes right but I want this for myself I want it on my phone as an app as a standalone feature and so what Sage does it automatically when you ask it a question right it automatically searches
every single highlight for every single book that I've ever read for the podcast every single note for every single book that I've read read for the podcast it searches every single transcript for every single episode of this podcast to give you the best answer possible which
means Sage searches every word I've ever uttered on the podcast to help answer your question every week I'm adding more notes more highlights more transcripts I have so much more data I'm putting into this with the goals over time just like Tarantino took decades right to get this
historical database that's in his head Charlie merer took decades to do that Kobe Bryant took decades to do it Napoleon Sam zel all these people I mentioned on the podcast Sage will allow every single person that uses it to have that exact same except for all of
History's Greatest entrepreneurs all the ones that I've studied on the podcast so far and all the ones that I will ever study on the podcast over time I really do believe that everything all the features I'm building in Founders notes Sage being a huge uh part of that is
over time like my goal is I want this ever increasing giant valuable curriculum and to that you can use your entire career with the goal of condensing and clarifying the collective knowledge of History's Greatest Founders if you have access to this information on demand it will make your decision-
making better it is a way for you to what did Charlie Monger said learning from history is a form of Leverage so to get access go to Founders notes.com that is Founders with an S you can subscribe on an annual basis if you choose to or you can do a onetime option which means
you get every single note highlight transcript I've ever done and every single note highlight transcript I ever do plus any new feature I ever add as I continue to add more data to it as I continue to add more features of course the price will go up so make sure you
sign up now you can lock in the lowest price that'll ever will be you can do this by going to Founders notes.com that is Founders with an S just like the podcast Founders notes.com thank you very much for your support thank you very much for listening and I'll talk to you again soon