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the first day I told the guy who doing my training like y'all just want you to know like this is very temporary like um this this music thing about to like kick out for me I'm hoping that person went good for you let's let's try it out is
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that what happened I'm glad you asked about him because he told me he's like yeah me too man I'm actually training to be a UFC fighter yeah yeah yeah so he had a dream too he had his dream too don't we all yeah we all do [Music]
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it bro tizo touchdown At Last Man yes I've been looking forward to meeting you man properly pleasure is all ours thank you for coming in here this morning thank you for hanging out we're standing we're alert we're focused bro how's your
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morning been man what's going on so the reason I'm standing um because I was like there's no way I'm going to look cooler than party next door sitting down so I just want to I can't I can't top that so I'm gonna just stand up and the morning is going it's
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going very movie- so far on the Uber here I took two of us here the first Uber I had to hop out of because um they don't want to turn the music up and I just wanted to you know so I thought of that Uber hopped in another Uber it's funny because I
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brought up the music because it ended up coming up on the next Uber the next Uber when I first hop in like yo good morning um mastered auxiliary cord yeah put on the music and I play social cues matter of fact I play I play our interview
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first because I wanted to psych myself out I love it and it starts with social cues in the in the Uber driver stops and says yo I'm glad you didn't play rap and that kind of taking me that kind of taking me aback and that really that
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really hurt me because you know I'm an emcee at heart but of course and it's music by the way it's music so I thought I I thought about that then I was like I wonder because you know speaking in the social security interview we talked
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about how nostalgic The Rock thing was in hotel benics I wanted something Indie I kind of looked at that and I wondered if that was like the same thing going on like the 80s and the 90s when if they had Uber would they get in and say yo no
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rock music yeah I feel like that's like glad you didn't ask for Nirvana yeah exactly like yo none of that rock Punk stuff so yeah I kind of looked at it like that like I told him that that um that really hurt me I'm glad you were
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honest about it yeah and also you know what's interesting and it never ceases to amaze me but I feel compelled to share it once more is that we have to acknowledge that there's quite a sizable amount of people that just don't prioritize music and if you don't
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prioritize something in your life that becomes increasingly prioritized then do the further and further away you get from actually understanding what it is and why it gets made so I think that ignorance and then ability to understand
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the beauty of something really just comes from a lack of interest and then it manifests itself into almost a resentment and it's kind of a sad realization yeah I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it but like that really he just said like yo no rap but to me
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that's like I looked at it way deeper than just you know nobody because it is deep because you realize that there are limitations for some people to Art and I and it and it the first time I realized that which was when I was a young
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younger person it was like one of the most sobering moments of my life like wait there are people who don't aren't open-minded about the expression of art I was like man that's a strange world yeah it's a strange world and yet here you are bro
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one of the most open-minded one of the most creative Young Artists I've ever heard come out the gate in my life and you know I know you're a humble guy but you're also deeply connected to your craft so I feel good about this I want to Applause
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I want to afford you for for just coming out in and showing zero restraint and zero boundaries on what was moving you and my first question for you because this is I don't want us to forget this moment is when did you realize that
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your desire to express yourself was more powerful than the um anxiety of Youth and the fear of expressing yourself that all youths feel I think I think they came in in 2016 so I hate to not I don't hate to start on a heavy note but I lost
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my girlfriend to um to gun violence and I took that moment oh sorry yeah me too I took that moment to um I took that moment I could say I can either use this I can either take this moment and go crazy and just like just let it spiral out of control or I can
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use this numbness to kind of just you know fuel what I have to like just use that numbness to throw on these crazy outfits to just try different stuffs and like I was so numb that like the outside the outside chapter didn't really didn't
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really mean anything like it didn't hold any weight and also I would imagine that the infrastructure of the world as you're expected to fit into fell away and didn't make sense after that I kind of welcomed that I kind of literally
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used to use my friends as like test studies wearing these crazy outfits yeah just to see I was like if I can take what they're going to say here I should be able to take what the world has to say so I've been practicing this since 2016 but the opposite end of that
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Spectrum was realizing even now I think artists we say like yo I'm grinding or I'm charging it to the game I I really I don't regret it but I'm just conscious of it now that putting that that weight into grief or using grief as like this
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this push for me after a while my dad told me when here I go missing my dad every interview he told me that during that time of grief like I couldn't see I couldn't take myself out of that moment and he was like the it's not gonna get
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easier you're just gonna with time he's gonna learn to like live with it and now I see that towards the end of it like the grief it wasn't enough to to keep me pushing down because like you said Tom made it better so now it's finding
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different things to you know keep that push going it makes total sense yeah you know I think as we when we lean into I our identity in order to try to process trauma or things that we don't have the tools or the ability to truly understand to your point what we're
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doing is we're creating this environment that allows us to move forward and it comes with us but you hope that later on when it eventually Rises to the surface you're more capable of being able to see it for what it is and understand it
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better absolutely I'm I'm very very present more a president I've ever been just just so I can make sure that I'm doing a help that whatever's pushing me now is a more healthy thing I don't want to look for the next traumatic thing so
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here's my next because that fuel will come back and burn you yeah eventually and you will see that like I always say like the time that I could have spent with friends and family like you would you would get here and like I really should have just spent that time
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and I I would would have cherished those moments more so I'm just finding healthier things to just push me keep me going now and motivate me but you talk about that on familiarity so good fun day for you recording that let's see
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familiarity so I recorded that maybe like a few days right before going on to call me if you get lost to her yeah so with Rufio baluki tis first time meeting and yeah so I remember it was it was a it was a cool day just to just being
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excited about tour coming up yeah and just writing that I guess that you know that story game changing moment to be able to go out on the road and just you know people talk about like I think you dream of going out supporting your
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favorite artists right it's a big major step and you are in Direction um and yeah you get to sort of go out and perform in front of a crowd and it's going to be honest just speaking honestly there'll be some people who get it some people who don't respect the
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process and understand everyone's driving bought the ticket for the headliner right but some fans will be there more than anything I think you get to see with your own eyes how the greats do it if you're lucky you get to support
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a Tyler who has incredible team around him Chris and Kelly and the whole crowd yeah and see how they operate what did you learn from that experience seeing a tour like that rolled out on that scale I'm glad you said that about like when
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people come in to see the um opener I'm glad that Tyler came into the dressing room right before we went on for the first show he was like people are going to just be standing there but don't take it in the wrong way like they're just
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processing you and I'm so glad that he told me that because every every show since then I just keep that in mind like they're not moving they're not they're not trying to offend you they're trying to understand absolutely does this resonate with me so
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I say I'm glad that was my first two that I went on one the repetition is always great like spot shows are cool but to be able to do that show every night yeah and really get that down and then also the professionalism the front
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and the back of the house I'm glad that's my first tour so I can see how that I always say I'm ready to do Arena so I can do a backyard barbecue yeah that was my first Twitter to go on do you think that to some degree part of how you like to present yourself at this
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point in your life and I really feel like you know you understand the power of invention and reinvention through identity like I love it like I do feel that it's you but at the same time I feel like you love the idea of creative
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expression through through image through the idea of what you're doing right absolutely it reflects you up is it an honest reflection of who you're becoming or to some degree does it feel like another person like another character
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something you can step into no this is definitely what I'm becoming I think what you're seeing is Extreme trial and success seeing what what which sticks what you know what doesn't I ask because social cues to me was one of those songs that was
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um very sneaky it it pulled you into a rhythm and a feel and a Groove um and movement and then you and then if you stuck with it you started really listening and you realize that actually it's a it's a genuine Love Letter to those who feel awkward and out of place
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those that suffer from OCD anxiety to depression things like that that it's okay it's okay to feel that way but you dress it up in this beautiful way and so I wonder whether or not like um you still kind of feel that sometimes even
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though you present yourself as like I'm going to be the center of the room but deep down inside you're still suffering from those social cues you know I think it's I think like Eddie said when I walked in like I shake everyone's one's hand it's
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not like the reason I do that is because I spent a lot of years just working retail working regular jobs being behind the camera so like you know I'm saying we shooting at 24 frames right now of course it's it's I've been on every side of
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this so that helps me it all helps the artist like it helps I look at this sometimes this customer service my retail experience helps me do this it helps my where did you work uh let's see my first job was at a movie theater at
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Tinseltown which is still there in Beaumont yeah then I did I did retail at the Houston Premium Outlets I first started I guess and then I went on the DKNY and then after that I went to what I started the Joe's Crab Shack for a
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little bit then I did Chuy's and yeah that was my last Jewish was like the last server job that I had and then the last last job I had was at the gas station out in Beaumont was my first job before the Tinseltown was working with the
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pretty same family at a gas station yeah yeah so my first job was also my last that's nice it's a full circle moment yeah really cool when you look back on that time because I worked in retailers while I worked in record store second-hand record stores and I washed
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dishes for like five years they couldn't get me out of the washing dishes station they were trying to get me to wait tables and I tried working behind the bars like just give me my headphones in the dishwashing clothes I knew it I'm
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just happy to listen to music man I don't need to really engage with people but I look back on some of those jobs and I'm not trying to paint too Rosie a picture of it but I loved the I loved that time in my life because I felt like
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it was maximum imagination time I was just dreaming it all up and I try to do that still but as you move on in life you take absorb other things do you think back to that time fondly definitely and I send that message out to anyone who's not romanticizing
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whatever they got going on right now it's easier to be like even these moments may seem like we're just going through the emotions but I'm telling you you're going to look back at these and you're going to romanticize it yeah yeah
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like I feel like how we do summer 16 like yeah you know we lived it I don't think summer six yeah everyone just decides to make the Four Seasons looking like a damn football team the last job because I knew the first day I told the
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guy who doing my training like y'all just want you to know like this is very temporary like um this this music thing about to like kick off for me so the last job between when I was really present when I was like going to the
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back of the store I mean back of the yeah the back of the store in the parking lot like practice performance and it's like listening to these audio books really just studying so I feel like that last job is when I knew when I
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was really real time romanticizing that I knew this was temporary and where I was going to go I'm just interested to know um when you said to the person that who was training you listen this is temporary I'm focusing on my music thing
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I think as far as um Entertainment Television film what have you people would roll their eyes and go yeah whatever buddy and then like half an hour later you made it you know that's the way that the narrative works but I'm hoping that person went good for you
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let's let's try it out is that what happened I'm glad you asked about him because he told me he's like yeah me too man I'm actually training to be a UFC fighter yeah yeah yeah so he had a dream too he had his dream too don't we all
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yeah we all do so Prince yes let's just talk a bit about Prince do you have a particular favorite album or moment is so much that you can dive into there and I mean there was a 10 to 15 year run where I would say there wasn't anyone
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who was doing what he was doing and then nothing lasts forever but I mean was yourself on hits right now I mean was there a moment that you are particularly you know that you really that you really think about you're obsessed with so I've been reading the
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Dwayne two dog book of the Purple Rain sessions 83 and 84. and it starts in January when it's like this question of like you know it brings up like a few critic uh notes and it's like they just weren't sure if like this investment that Warner had made was
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going to pay off like yeah he was like this call he had this cult following but he wasn't like a superstar yet yeah so I think that book has definitely made me see him more as like the human but as far as like during this album I was
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listening to a lot of Debut albums Destiny's Child of course the for you the 4u record and just hearing how his introduction to the world almost brought me to tears because I yes we know the whole career that he has that he that he
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that he had but hearing that first acapella song number one on that debut album yeah really almost brought me to to tears like this is his first offering to the world I know man and I when I think back to to that moment and how strange people thought he was and how
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hard it was people get their head around him and then you go back and listen to those moments he knew just like you do he knew right at the start like it's it's not a given that what you're doing and how the world perceives it is going
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to be aligned but if you keep going and you keep being vested and creating then when they do catch up to you all the work you've done before is like some Smithsonian Library man people just go back and they're just like oh my God
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yeah so it still lives it exists it travels no matter what it never stops I always say Discovery never gets old like I'm just finding new artists what I knew to me who's been out since like the 90s and 80s yeah and I was talking to
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someone yesterday about well a few days ago about you know we're talking about debut albums yeah and for this I was like if I have a Get Rich or Die Tryin moment great but it could also be that Prince for you like the first album
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drops yeah controversy drops yeah 1999 drops yeah and then Purple Rain happens exactly so during my research for this debut album I was listening to people's debut how they came in the game and then when did people catch on to them it's a once in a
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lifetime opportunity right here to have teaser in the studio for the first time first on air first time on there yeah yeah man this is beautiful for me I mean we've been looking forward to this moment I don't forget the time I Jeremy
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got asked you if I could FaceTime video you so I could tell you I was a fan of person yeah which I like to do sometimes rather than just do it on the air I like to be like man I'm so blown away by what you're doing you know and I FaceTime
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videoed you and it was about 905 in the morning and you look like you look right you were just so ready it was he was so ready and I was like man there's no off for this guy like it's not like to your point before it's there's no A or B
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scenario like you're just in you're in it yeah you spoke on that earlier I don't think I dove into it like people asked if this is a character or whatever but I think the character I play is when I go back to my hometown and I strip all
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of this down and just blend into the city you feel compelled to do that or you want to do that I want to do it it's like acting um kind of just at first I feel like when you're an artist the first people you look at too and you kind of be jaded
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like why isn't my hometown supporting me yeah and I can't I'm from a small town I can't speak for La New York and nothing like that but I feel like you're a small town artist you want to keep that place as your place to just go and like no one
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bothers you and you just keep your peace so instead of going down there masquerading that you know touchdown yeah I just strip all this down and just go to HEB and just very smart yeah just please just leave me be the
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collaborators vocally on this album if there's not that many you've been very generous with others but on your album be very selective and deliberate um you explain how Fouche came to exist through on the album through the through
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the process but what about Chanel so I have this fear if you if you wonder why it's so light on the collaborative side I have this fear of asking for things like it's so bad like if I go to your house I won't ask for the restroom is it's like that it's not just a music
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thing yeah it's just a fear of asking for things and that's why when like these collaborators reach out to me I make I'm there to serve I'm like whatever you need I got you because I look at that's the most like bravest thing you can do because I know my fear
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of asking for things so when these people ask me to do things I'm always there like it means like what can I do to help but the Boucher thing happened we met I believe in 2021 where she always make sure I say that she was the
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first one to put me in first class she brought me down to to LA to be in her video for a single AF and yeah it wasn't it was just to be a cameo and I love a good Cameo so just to be a cameo in a video and ever since then we just been
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we got signed around the same time so like we would just pull up on each other and just talk about like how we processing what's going on in our life so she's a true like dear friend to me and what about Janelle Janelle Monae
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that the first person I played the album for and that was that what that was just I wanted to play the album for and then I also wanted her to to do the the um the voicing on you thought yeah so but you'd be afraid to
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ask I mean how'd you cross that you know how did how did you how did you pluck up quickly I didn't technically I didn't even cross my fear I think my team like talked to the team thing but uh yeah so I still haven't really haven't came over that fear yeah
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whatever that fear I actually understand where you're coming from with that and I think I've spoken to quite a lot of artists in my life that have have been open about that um that that the idea of reaching out to somebody and saying hey look I'd really
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appreciate it I I know I'm no close to that understanding what drives it but it definitely comes from that the insecure space of the artistic Spirit the root of that I think really drives that fear of putting yourself in front of somebody
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else I think rejection is is the driving force right no I'm not I'm not afraid of it's only with the collaborative thing it's not a rejection it's just I don't want to feel like I'm inconveniencing like right like I don't want to like I know you're busy
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so like I just it's a courtesy thing almost yeah very much so very much so get made can you put your headphones on for one second teaser can you pull up all right Betty X on the studio everybody yes ain't I was confused I thought
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something to tease off me and teaser live on Apple music one right now man we were guessing you up big bro we had to give you a coin I said what's up yo man appreciate it what's up what's up man I'm good man just just
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telling them you know just tell them how great you are man yeah man we're just talking about how great you are bro I just told him how fun of a day that was in the studio man yeah yeah bro isn't it a beautiful time man you know for you Benny and fatizo
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and and for the people that are making really interesting art I feel you're at the center of a lot of it man it must be it just must feel so good to know that all those crazy ideas you had you thought no one would ever get are
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starting to connect bro oh for real bro it's unbelievable bro I still don't believe half the stuff that goes on man but I'm really blessed to be here man for real I feel like we're celebrating tiso's album even though it's not officially out just yet he's
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about to drop the tracklist thing in uh Picasso form which I'm excited about but um I just wanted to give you a chance while he's writing out the track listing on on Post-it notes to just talk about what it is from your perspective um that draws you to T-Zone that you
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think is so use is such a unique uh thing for all of us music fans in the world is one of the best producers I've ever worked with you to do things that that you wouldn't normally do wow and then you'll leave a session with new skills
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new new sounds new new tones he's like he's just a savant I just everything bro he's just I don't know I'm glad that's on the record because I've heard I've heard him say that a few times I want you all to know I got it yeah yeah I
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really love producing so to hear that from one of the one of the greatest producers of our time and thank you uh thank you man man it's facts Benny it's great to talk with you bro man let's connect soon have a great day bro take it easy man I
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feel so grateful to be here right now during this moment with you man like I just feel like like the fact that I'm around as I said to you before we went on the out I'll share it with everybody now I said to you first time I met you
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in person I'm just grateful I'm here during your time same man thank you amazing thank you teaser touchdown everybody all right bro you've been patiently giving us the picassos yes if it's cool with you when you're done with those man I'd love to collect those and
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hold on to these are yours absolutely I think they'll be worth someone one day absolutely nothing I'm ever going to sell them but good to know I got him oh this is Tyler boy what's going on what's going on y'all crazy yeah we were giving you props bro
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you know we love you we just play crying in my car and realize you were finishing things up today yeah I was shooting a take from the crying in my car a performance take and then I turned and I turned it back on and you guys were
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playing the song I was so hyped yeah I told him I was like you're probably on set because I thought I leave here yeah we're going to wrap up yeah I thought I thought it was someone else playing the song on set and then I realized it was
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y'all nah man it's on the radio bro why don't you share if you don't mind why don't you share what you said to all of us around the world right now about how you feel about Tyler as a collaborator man yeah Tyler close one of my one of my
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favorite collaborate collaborative Raiders man we've done some some things that I can't wait for the world to hear like on on his album on my album and just like future projects like we're still to this day getting into the
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studio and you know um Tyler Cole's also going to be a director as well so to be on the um the music video set I'm honored because I know he's going to be on that the Oscar stage one day yeah so it's really cool to even he's my favorite collaborator but being on a
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music video set with him it transposes more than just a studio I feel like that's one of the things Tyler the unt's are really connect with is the fact that yes performers and artists you know you're out in your own lane but at the
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same time you dip you know your producers your directors your art directors you know you're interested in photography you understand how cameras and angles work that must be something that you must Tyler you must felt so grateful that you connected with teaser
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knowing that you know you could add someone to that group of friends absolutely I mean once again shout out to Katie Katie will for sure she made she made the connection but yeah the first day that I met tizo we made one of
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the songs that's on the album I don't know if you said the tracklist yet so I'm not gonna say which one okay and you know the second day we made another one I just knew then it was going to be a special like collaborative relationship
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and I think we were just on the same page we were talking about visual identity from the moment we would start a song and we just kind of knew where we were going and Piezo blew my mind the first time we ever worked together because we would make you know like two
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ideas for two beats and then we would he would be tracking on one and then I didn't even realize but he had a whole idea of how to connect the two and I just thought we were making different ideas and he put them together and it
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was brilliant that's their production again man that's the producer in you but you know he's a real producer oh my God all right we talked about it we talked about it yeah hahaha it's beautiful listen I know you guys are gonna go connect in real time
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and go and finish something really special for the song we just play but Tyler thanks taking a couple of minutes just to join us in celebrating teaser ahead of the release of this album um you know we share the same passion
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and same dedication to him the whole team does from the second Jeremy played me his music man we we knew and we felt like there was something special going on here and it's happening in real time Tyler Cole I mean TiVo touchdown is a
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superstar not a future Superstar he's a superstar wow thank you everyone everyone already knows and everyone's going to continue to see what I see but yeah the world knows we love you Tyler thanks for taking a few seconds peace all right bro the last word is
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yours man yeah you get to do this how you want to do it we've got people who are watching on Tick Tock we're going to put this up we're going to make sure everybody sees this um how do you want to share the track listing of your
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forthcoming new album yeah so for the debut album how do you sleep at night we was talking about this off air this is as far as the Sonic so what you're going to hear I haven't said this um publicly yet but it's the sound that I'm crafting is called Rock and boom RMB
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with the intensity of rock it has r b top lines the boom of course for boom bap it's the boom bat penmanship it's also the boom because you know the 808 is going to shake the world and also it's a boom because you know my my
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hometown of Beaumont Texas is an oil town so it's like just play on the Boom Town so this is rocking Boomin without further Ado here's the track list and number one we have okay produced by the raisin Brothers we have number two you thought produced
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by Tyler Cole featuring D talented Janelle Monae number three we have uh produced by Chris Reddick number four we have sweet co-starring Boucher produced by Penny X number five we go back to the raisin Brothers we have impossible
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number six we're back at the Raven Brothers with neighborhood number seven shout out to my boys across the pond my boy uh John Hoskins and Brennan we did mood swings number eight I believe this is the track Tyler code was talking
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about the the first track that we did together we have two easy produced by Tyler Cole co-starring the very talented Isaiah Russ who's the front man of fatal mall that are out there in Houston Texas number nine we got familiarity
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number 10 we have I don't think you see me also the talents of Tyler Cole co-starring again Isaiah Russ number 11 we go back across the pond daddy mama drama produced by John Hoskins and Brennan so we got number 12 new name produced by Lee Jared solomonophonic 13
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we have stranger who did I do stranger with oh yeah I did a stranger with Dylan we did Dylan new stride it also stolen Nova and then last but not least the original was better produced by The Talented Ari AKA Y2K ladies and gentlemen yeah come on
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[Applause] it is not lost on us the importance of releasing a debut album when you've been visualizing it and and driving yourself crazy to achieve it for a long period of time it is the beginning of a 0.0 you will have many point O's in your life
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man and we're so grateful we're around to see him and hear him and feel him and be a part of them and hopefully even help you tell your story when you want to but right now today bro I'll never forget this experience wow
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movie Magic bro have a great day out there with Tyler man good luck for the release of the album thank you for taking some time and advice and sharing so much with us and uh the door is always open you already know that absolutely thank you