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Jordie, get off the phone, please. Sorry, Senator.
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I'm going to have to call you back. Okay.
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Uh great night last night.
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Took a massive group of bros and actually two women as well uh to the movies.
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We went and saw Interstellar, 10-year anniversary, 70 mm IMAX, Universal CityWalk. Fantastic event. Yeah, yeah, fantastic.
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Actually, the the last time I saw Interstellar was at 70 mm IMAX, maybe even the same theater. Uh great movie. it first released. Yeah, yeah.
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I think it's been 10 years.
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Uh fantastic movie, very techno-optimist, very sci-fi, lot lots of fun.
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The iconic scene of the guy like through the glass, right?
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Is that the movie that I'm thinking of? Yeah, yeah. Where he's No, don't go. Don't go.
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Like like like make me stay. That whole thing.
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And uh there's Yeah, that great docking scene where they're like, "It's impossible."
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He's like, "No, it's necessary." Yeah.
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Uh makes you think of, you know, raising the impossible round with, you know, 1 month of of uh runway left. Yeah. It's It's impossible. always be done. But, it's necessary. Yeah. Uh great great movie.
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uh a lot of people say, "John, how do you get 30 people in a single movie?" break it down.
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How do you How do you pull that off?
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highly recommend this to everyone, no matter what city you're in.
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If you have a movie theater, uh what you do, go to Fandango, pick a pick a movie.
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Doesn't matter if it's bad.
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It just has to be a good bro movie.
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We did a Jason Statham movie, The Beekeeper, once.
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It was a disaster, but it was amazing.
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Uh you just buy like 20 tickets. Uh no.
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Uh we just pick something fun, something easy, accessible.
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Don't go arthouse, don't go depressing, just something action movie, something silly, a classic, something that's in theaters you've seen before.
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Get a whole row, get 20 tickets.
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Uh buy the tickets, and then just text literally just go down your text list, everyone that you've text in the last month who's in your city, "Hey, going to this movie. You want to come?"
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And then whoever gets back to you, some people just won't even respond.
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Other people be like, "Oh, I got I'm busy."
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And then a lot of people bail the last second.
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Some people will jump on in the last second. Yep.
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But you can refund the tickets up until like 15 minutes before.
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And so there's no financial risk. Yeah.
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But you've but you've you've de-risked the capital that you generate from hosting your absolute boys and girls It's fantastic. a movie is priceless.
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Yeah, and it just it just defeats the activation energy of like, "Hey, should we do something? Well, who else is in?"
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It's like the first text is like, "I'm going to see Interstellar in 70 mm with 20 people. Do you want to come?"
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And then people are just like, "Sure." Yeah. It's so much easier.
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Uh so highly recommend it.
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Holiday season, there'll be friends in town, uh people traveling, holidays, and uh it's a great experience.
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So just go make it happen.
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We've done it a few times.
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Try and run it back as often as possible.
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Yeah, cinema is meant to be enjoyed as a collective in many ways.
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Cinema is now become so much like I'm going there with my little tiny group. Yeah.
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You know, one or maybe a couple people.
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You just sit there in silence.
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But there's there's an amazing energy of of filling a row Totally.
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with your absolute boys and just locking in.
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Yeah, the emotional moments are more emotional.
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The funny moments are are funnier.
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Everything's better with a big group. scared Yeah.
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you got to grab on your You can grab on your bulky size your mass monster who you brought with you. Yeah. David. Yeah.
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Yeah, definitely bring a guy who can bench 400 lb to keep you safe during the scary parts. Yep. That's essential.
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Well, it is the holiday seasons. It's Christmas time.
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And we are bringing you today something really special.
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We are breaking down the founder's guide to VC Christmas parties.
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And I have a cheat sheet here that uh oh, this is this is a prized possession. a lot of work into this.
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And and and basically in more than a decade of actually attending these and trying to extract the most amount of value. Exactly.
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Just because it's the holiday season, just because you're getting in the spirit of giving and and just socializing and and uh doesn't mean you shouldn't be trying to extract value out of the event. Exactly.
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There's always an opportunity cost.
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You could be working if you're going to the Christmas party, you got to get your money's worth.
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And so, I have six steps here.
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Jordy has a bunch of different ideas.
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We'll break it all down for you.
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Here's how to get the most out of attending a VC Christmas party.
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Step one, you got to get your friends on the list.
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This is tough because the guest list can be very tight.
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You got to make your friends sound interesting.
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You got to You got to craft compelling backstories for them. I have some examples.
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You go to whoever's hosting, say, "Hey, I got a buddy.
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He's in stealth mode on a revolutionary startup.
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He's building, you know, a bear domestication platform.
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He's an expert in bear domestication."
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Uh you can just be like, "Hey, you see that movie Inception? Yeah, he's doing that.
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Yes, he's he's a biotech founder Yep. in bear domestication.
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Yeah, or doing or doing dream tech, sleep tech, uh you know, Johnson rejuvenation.
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These are the guys that get invited.
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Uh any anyone else who's just building B2B SaaS, they're going to show up to the partner meeting straight away.
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But they're not getting the Christmas invite.
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The Christmas invite's for the crazy the crazy folks.
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But you got to get them up to speed.
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You got to tell them, "Hey, I pitched you as the Inception guy. Yep.
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you to pull an all-nighter, get up to speed on this.
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You can't just walk in there cuz you're going to be quizzed.
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Get on Perplexity and start researching.
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how would we make Inception happen in real life?
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Uh you might need to be if you're the bear domestication guy, you got to know all the different breeds, how are you getting them smaller, how how long is this going to take, what's your timeline?
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You want to have some marks on your face like cuz it's a process or not fully domesticated yet.
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Like go down, get violently slashed by something.
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And, you know, really it's like a method it's like John Fio's you know, method entrepreneurship.
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You got to get into character and if somebody that's in a biotech founder in bear domestication, certainly getting clipped with a claw here or there.
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Otherwise, you're just working with previously domesticated bears. Yeah. Yeah.
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So, you got you got to work the list, work around whoever's organizing the assistants, the the wildcard folks who might be in the organization, might have access to the Eventbrite or the Paperless Post or whatever they're using.
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Get the names on the list.
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You got to understand the security's going to be tight.
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This isn't a college party.
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You can't pass back an ID.
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That That's not going to play.
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You got to be on the list.
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And so, uh once you get your boys in, you want to be arriving early.
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You got to respect the opportunity cost.
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Time here is time away from building your empire.
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You got to maximize the night. So, you show up.
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Probably want to be bringing a gun.
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And the reason is because it puts them in an awkward position.
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It's like either they respect the Second Amendment, let you in, Yeah. or and trust you. and trust you.
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And then And then you're And then you're carrying the whole time. Yeah.
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Or they make you take it off and check it at the door.
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And then you can be like, "Oh, so I guess you're un-American."
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And then you have the high ground. Yeah. Yeah.
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And if they're if they invest in American dynamism, then you have some a little bit of blackmail on them to be like Oh, yeah.
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They didn't even allow guns at their Christmas party.
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me to carry at the Christmas party.
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What How How How American are you? Exactly.
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Um yeah, and it it This This goes back like I I uh a lot of people in LA carry. Yep.
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And uh a lot of people all over the country carry, but surprisingly here in LA.
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And I have no issues being around people that carry. Yep.
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As long as I really fully trust them.
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And if that's the case, then great.
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I'm actually feel safer knowing that they're they're they're strapped, right?
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so, it's a good way to determine does your does your GP does VC actually trust you? Yep.
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And if they've invested in your company already, then great.
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If they haven't yet, it's a sign that they're more probably more likely to invest.
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Cuz if they trust you with their life, they'll trust you with their capital. Exactly. Exactly.
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So, once you get in, you got to scout the best drinks.
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You got to skip the the tray passed wine and champagne. Yep.
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That's uh that's the house wine.
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You got to head straight for the wine cellar, usually in the basement. Scout out the sommelier.
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You got to ask for the best pour.
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You're looking for Screaming Eagle. Here's what you do.
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You don't just drink it one glass at a time.
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You say, "Hey, I got a bunch of friends upstairs. Can I get four glasses?" Yep.
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Take one, chug it right there in front of them, let them know, establish dominance. Establish dominance.
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Then, as you're walking up the stairs, that's glass two.
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Then, you head upstairs, you act like, "Oh, I'm looking for my buddy, but I'm just going to take a sip."
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You're down to two glasses now.
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Take the third glass, and then, as you're milling about, just got in the scene, four glasses.
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Then, you're full bottle of Screaming Eagle in. down. Exactly.
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a little more leisurely at least. Yeah, exactly.
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So, now, you're already up on the deck.
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the sommelier knows you've had at least one glass. Yeah.
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But, everyone else just thinks you're on your first, right?
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Cuz they didn't see the other three. Plausible deniability. Yeah.
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So, now Now, like, no matter what happens, you've you've hurdled your your opportunity cost, cuz you've consumed an entire bottle of Screaming Eagle. Yep.
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Now, it's time to get some food in you.
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So, you got to head to the buffet.
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Usually, there's prime rib or another high-value protein, and you're going to want to take down as much as possible, but this is where it gets creative.
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Bring a couple Ziploc bags, take a couple prime ribs home to your team.
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If you're bootstrap startup, you can feed your entire team for a week off of what you can take.
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Yeah, and I would recommend like, take, you know, don't just bring a couple Ziploc bags, bring 30 or 40, and actually stash some around the property, uh so that you can You could You could come back after the party's ended, the host will probably be fairly incapacitated, right?
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They've had a bunch of drinks throughout the night, they're sleeping.
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Leave the party, but then actually come back like an hour later, and just collect all the all the prime rib, and then get out of there again. Exactly, exactly.
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Okay, so, step four, you got to navigate the social scene.
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You got to handle the cool kids, cuz if you're a founder, you're not going to be the hottest kid there, you're not going to be the coolest guy.
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There's always going to be someone who's flexing a little bit harder.
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Um there's going to be a lot of drugs going around potentially.
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You got to skip the mushroom bar, for sure, no psychedelics.
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Uh there might be tattoos.
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If that's the case, let everyone know, get a giant chest piece, bal- bald eagle eating a panda bear. Let people know. Yeah. Yeah. You're an American. A real patriot. Real patriot.
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Everyone will be getting like small tattoos because it's you know it's it's time limited.
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You don't want to be in there for 2 hours.
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Yeah, and so much so much of company building is pure pain tolerance, right?
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You got to chew glass for a decade to get that generational outcome.
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And so if you can sit there at the holiday party getting a chest piece for 2 hours, that's a way to display that level of pain tolerance. And And don't flinch. Don't cry.
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Just Just take it on the chest. Yep.
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And that's an easy way to get your next round done cuz that Other VCs are going to see Yeah.
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This guy just got a pound of ink in his flesh. Yeah. Didn't even wince.
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Of course I can trust him with my money, right?
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Cuz this is about This isn't really about If you're If you're invited to the holiday party, you either have a pending term sheet or already in the portfolio. Yep.
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And so this is really about getting in front of the other capital allocators at the event and getting their attention. Yep.
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So that they can get your next round done. Yeah.
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And so you want to bring your print your your pitch deck.
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You want to print it out.
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Use a high-quality 80-lb paper. Don't go cheap. No No 20-lb. No 30-lb. Smart. Full color. You want to bind it.
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And you want to leave it everywhere.
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Drop it strategically in the bathroom, the home office, behind books. Where Get it in the gym.
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Wherever you think the Put it in the prime rib, you know, the the catering and they have the the metal Put pitch deck in there. Easy.
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Next person is going to find it.
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A VC is not going to be able to resist looking at your pitch deck.
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No matter how popping the party is. Yep.
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So then Would you use AirDrop in a situation like this?
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Would you just start AirDropping to anybody like in the in the vicinity I like the way you're thinking.
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Yeah, I I like the way you're thinking.
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Cuz if you're out of the physical copies, just start blasting AirDrops. Exactly. Yeah.
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So then you're going to mill about.
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Now you have your tattoo. You got your steak.
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You got your screaming eagle.
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You're going to head upstairs and there's probably going to be going to be some cool kids hanging out in some private room, maybe doing a little bit of cocaine.
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You want to stay away from that. Yep.
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But you don't want to get mugged by the cool kids. So, here's what you do.
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You walk in, you see them.
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Hey, hey, and they're going to be like, "Hey, come do the coke." You don't want to.
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You want to stick to the basics. Yep.
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Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, Alcohol. protein. Yep. Right? So, how do you mug them?
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Say, "Hey, I just got back from Pyongyang.
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I got some crystal meth that's purer than a graph diamond. Let's hit this." Now, they're scared.
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Cuz they're like, "Ah, I don't want to touch that. That's too crazy." Yeah.
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And so, now you're the boss. You're the boss.
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And you don't even have to do any hard drugs. Yep.
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And so, they you've established your dominance again.
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Just throw it on the table. Exactly.
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And watch them scatter to the wind. Yeah. Their fear is your win. Yep.
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Leave with your reputation intact.
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So, the last thing, or actually, step five, uh spycraft.
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Everyone suspects at these parties that the Asian women are CCP spies, but that's racist and just wrong.
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What you need to watch out for are the Canadian guys, because they blend in.
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You think that they're Americans, but then you find out, you get completely blindsided. This happened to me. Yeah. law.
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I was I was shocked when I learned that.
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So, uh you need to be figuring out who is an American, who's from Canada.
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You can usually ID them by if they're saying happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Yep. Very un-American.
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Uh and then you could drop an obscure ice hockey reference.
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You could start talking about the Zamboni market and how Zambonis are technically hard tech.
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And if they get excited, Yep. that's the tell. It's Canadian. He's into hockey.
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Uh and if someone questions you, you're already good cuz you can show off your tattoo of the eagle eating the panda bear. Yep.
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And they know you're on you're on America's team. Yep.
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And so, the last step, step six, you got to party like a legend.
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You got to be a contrarian.
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You got to leave your mark.
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You got to get ready for the pool.
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We always recommend wearing a swimsuit under your tuxedo.
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You go into the bathroom, you hang up your tuxedo nice and neat.
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You want to leave it You want to leave it nicely folded. when you get back in it. Exactly.
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Hop in the pool, maybe you start a revolution.
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VCs are herd animals, they'll all jump in.
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All of a sudden it's a pool party.
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And do your best if if you if any of your absolute boys are in there, do your best to start a whirlpool, you know, where you all move around long enough that you kind of create this like basically creating a movement.
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Founder venture capitalist like to invest in founders that can create a movement.
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And so this is a wonderful physical display of not just physicality, but ability to you know, create something bigger than yourself, right?
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A whirlpool is a great example of that.
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And a beener or any type of emerging GP is going to just appreciate their pool getting used in general. Yeah.
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Many of those pools go untouched for months, right? agree.
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And so it's a sign of respect to say, "Hey, you pay to get this pool cleaned every single week and serviced.
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I'm going to use it so that you get your money's worth, right?"
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Yeah, let's use the fruits of your labor.
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A cannonball is respectful. Yep.
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Uh so you got any more tips for me? What's going on?
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you really you really covered it almost all.
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Yeah, my my main stuff kind of just echoes a lot of what a lot of what you're saying.
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I think it's always about finding a way to stand out.
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You you sort of went over a number of different ways to do that and be memorable, right?
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But the biggest thing if I could hone in on anything, it's become the main character. Yep.
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If somebody's hosting people at their house, they're trying to create an environment that says, "Oh, you know, look at look at how incredible my network is, the quality of the people that I surround myself with, the quality of my portfolio."
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And so if you're going to become the main character, you need to be controversial.
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The best founders are often controversial, right?
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Steve Jobs, Travis Kalanick Kalanick.
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You need to figure out a way to pattern match to this and do that in the sort of party environment.
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So that can be you already covered this.
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A lot of people are going to be sticking to one or two drinks.
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Try drinking an order of magnitude more than that.
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Power law outcome for you.
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Power law power law drinking they call it.
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And this is really like you want them to remember you on Monday, right?
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So the the Saturday party uh everybody everybody's in a daze on Sunday and then Monday you send that email out, "Hey, it was great seeing you at the party.
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I don't remember much, but I'd love to get together and sort of talk further uh uh take the conversation a little bit further."
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is one of those like Tilian secrets about Silicon Valley.
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Like we know some VCs who get completely blacked out and they've gone on to raise huge funds.
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Yeah, there's sort of a blackout to fund manager pipeline that's pretty well established.
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And so uh yeah, it's kind of narrative violation there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you know, you know.
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Um another one, insist on bringing your own security.
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Often oftentimes there's going to be security already there.
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And if you're going to a party with with people like this, you want them to know that you have enemies and that you need your own security with you. Yep.
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If I meet a founder and they don't have any enemies, they're probably not doing anything important and I probably don't want to invest in them.
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So by bringing your own security it adds to the sort of mystique and allure and saying like, "Why does he need four bodyguards surrounding him at all times?
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He's he was just domesticating bears.
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He must be doing something much bigger." Yeah, yeah.
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I you know, seed stage founder, like how does he have this many enemies?
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How is how is this you know, a high threat environment?
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Um so it's just a way to establish sort of your importance.
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Um Second, so this happens a lot.
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Uh sometimes you're getting invited to a a VC holiday party for for a VC that you love.
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That's one situation, that's kind of what we outlined.
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But if you get invited to a rival VC's holiday party, um you can bring I'd recommend bringing a journalist as a plus one. Mhm.
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And here's the trick, disguise them as an escort so that so that you don't make anyone's alarm bells go off.
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So basically if they're just Yeah, that makes sense. They're just Yeah. Yeah.
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If they're disguised as an escort, that's pretty common for for people to bring escorts to to a holiday party like this.
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And so nobody the rival VC won't know what hit them until they're in the information on Monday. There you go. Um Yeah.
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And then I mean the journalists will be able to blend in cuz they all come from fabulous wealth. And so Totally.
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They're they're really good.
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They're going to know what wines to, you know, select and and which uh appetizers to skip and and whatnot.
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Um and then the last thing uh little more serious uh bring extra large napkins.
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Um a lot of rounds get done on the back of napkins at these kind of parties.
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But depending on your situation as a founder, there might be a lot of structure added to the deal.
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And so if you have a bigger napkin, you're just uh that that you'll you'll kind of need the extra space to make to kind of work out all the kinks and and make sure you get the whole thing and the signature blocks and everything like that.
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So bring extra napkins, bring a journalist as a plus one if you're going to your enemy's holiday party, and whatever the situation is, bring your own security.
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make paper napkins that have full Excel sheets printed on them. Yes.
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So you can just do a full model. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the back of it. On the back of it. On the back of it.
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Yeah, you you Yeah, you can do this deal on the back of a napkin.
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And it's just And it's just the most complicated DCF you've ever seen. That's great.
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Oh, well that's fantastic.
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Let us know how it goes, folks.
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Use those tips and enjoy Christmas parties at VC events this holiday season. Uh moving on.
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Let's do some DMs that we got. We have a bunch here. Uh first is from Jeremy. Good friend of the show.
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He says, "Why won't you guys put on a tie?" That's a good question.
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I think uh for 2025, that should be a New Year's resolution. I'm putting on a tie.
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Uh send me your recommendations.
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Send me We we we found a great NetJets tie. It was a steal.
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Uh we're going to find We're going to become tie experts. Tie experts.
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Yeah, guys in LA put on a suit and and think they deserve an award.
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And they haven't even thought about getting to the tie. Yes.
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He did He did send this the day that I was wearing a tuxedo with a bow tie though.
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So, you know, pay attention.
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I do wear ties every once in a while.
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Um oh, the here here's a here's a more serious DM that I got. Ahoy, John.
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Do you know how I can get off the employment blacklist?
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I've applied to an amount of jobs that would blow your mind this year and I've only had 10 or so interviews.
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Uh what do you think about how to stand out?
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Maybe we can tell some jokes, but also give some serious advice because I know that this person is seriously applying to jobs and is seriously um trying to get a job right now.
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Um and is kind of willing to do anything.
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Very very uh strong hustler.
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Sent me some uh just like very interesting stock tips.
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He He found this company that is in the caviar business that was mooning for a while and he's just like observing.
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He's not like a trader, but he just like knows an interesting storyline.
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Clearly like tapped in, but is really having a having trouble standing out in the kind of vanilla uh hiring, sending your resume.
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Like he just doesn't make through make it through the first gate. Yeah.
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So, what would you recommend to stand out?
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Maybe jokingly, maybe seriously.
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I know he's looking for real advice though.
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Applying for jobs is uh uh is pretty much futile unless unless you're applying to these sort of big companies that have sort of established pipeline. Yeah.
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Pro- even even then I don't really recommend it.
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You want to establishing that works is like you're a new grad at a top school and there's a recruiting cycle.
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It's like Yeah, of course you put in your application with Bain, BCG, McKinsey and it's like a clear flow.
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And even even even relatively unknown seed stage startups will get 3,000 applicants for a entry-level role.
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Any TechCrunch article And so, it's it's completely it's completely impossible to try to get jobs that way.
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Not impossible, uh but but I don't I think people going and applying to a bunch of jobs, feeling like they're being productive and and working towards um something is not a good idea. Two So, two things.
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One, establishing some type of personal relationship with someone at the company.
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That could be the founder, that could be an investor in the company, that could be uh you need you need some type of warm relationship, otherwise you're just going to get lost in the in the stack.
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Uh second, this is especially probably relevant to engineering roles.
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If you can go talk to go find 50 engineering focused recruiters and and and get on the phone with them cuz they're trying to get on the phone with potential candidates all day. Yep.
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And have them start to understand you and help and then start warm introing you to companies.
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So, that that's another way.
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But yeah, I think you just need to get more creative in order to get attention.
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My my favorite story uh of a of of hiring somebody was somebody who had messaged uh seen some the marketing of my last company, sent me a number of message DMs that I actually didn't see.
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They went to the like request spam or like requested messages folder.
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And then he he just made an app for us, like an entire end-to-end app that was like fully out of the box, like marketing drop.
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And that finally got through to me.
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And I jumped on I think it was like a Saturday that I saw it and I was like this is insane.
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Uh like totally like blew me away and I had a conversation with him and ended up hiring him.
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Um pretty much like after seeing that work, I was like ready to hire him on the first call. Yep.
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Um so, like you got to you if you're struggling to find a role, like you just got to get it find a way to get like figure out how to be 10 times more creative than what you're doing right now.
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Sending a a link a boilerplate LinkedIn message, you know, probably not going to do it, but figure out a way to stand out. So, two things.
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One, on cold email, incredibly effective, but dialing in the complexity and length of a cold email is really tough and really critical.
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Too short, "Hey, I just want a job, can we hop on the phone?
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That's not going to break through.
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But also going super long and telling your entire life story is also going to feel like work.
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It needs to be just this perfect balance, like three to five sentences with phone number, hey, you can just text me, like let's move to the next stage.
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You want to see these things as like a funnel, like you you want to get to like phone, text, meet, like move very quickly.
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And then in terms of the building something, creating value before you get paid, essentially.
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A lot of people are like, oh, well, like you just want free work or whatever.
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or whatever. But I think that if you reframe it in your mind in terms of like, I could spend 40 hours applying to 400 jobs with generic applications and just like slightly rewarded, you know, like cover letters saying I like your
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industry, whatever, versus you take that 40 hours and you put that towards whatever your craft is, whether that's marketing or sales or development, you put that towards one company, it's more wood behind fewer arrows, that's going to break through. And and I think that
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And and I think that you'll actually see a higher conversion rate down the funnel, even though the top of funnel so much smaller, because you're actually just just, you know, dedicated.
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I think that'll really show off.
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Yeah, try to do some type of small project, even like if you're an engineer, message a CEO and say, hey, I contributed to this like open source project that I know you guys use. That'll get you through.
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If you're in a marketing role, hey, I uh here's five influencers in your category that I think could could be potential partners and here's why. That'll get you through.
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Sales, same thing, hey, here's three companies that I know that it could be potential customers, I'd love to connect you to them and separately would be great to jump on the phone sometime.
24:43
Uh we got a uh we got reply guy of the month and the big the big news here, reply guy of the month, there's been so much so much activity in uh the comment section of the TV account that we are moving reply guy of the month to reply guy of the week and uh so there will be 52 up to 52 reply guys over the next year uh honorary reply guys and I got to say this there's there's a number of accounts that have been putting in the work.
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We're talking 10 20 plus comments a day.
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Uh it's extremely excessive.
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The people that are um and necessary.
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The people that are are standing out are uh are actually you know reply guys that are engaging with each other.
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So they're they're taking the conversation on to each other's accounts and each other's posts.
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They're engaging with you know companies like Ramp and Devin.
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Uh they're engaging with the employees at the companies of the companies that we feature.
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So there's levels to the reply game.
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Uh last week we gave it to Baldo.
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He has even leveled up since then.
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His posting has been out of control good.
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Uh and he actually had a little bit of uh back and forth with uh this this week's reply guy uh of the week which is none other than Turner Novack.
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Uh congratulations to Turner. Congratulations, Turner.
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This guy uh Turner I would I would have to imagine has post notifications on.
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He has been highly highly active and this goes to show that it's not just emerging posters that can win this award.
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It doesn't you know Turner's got you know 100,000 plus followers on this platform.
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He's been and been very active for years and Elon Musk is a reply guy.
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Elon Musk is a reply guy, too. just emojis. This is so good. Tweets. He engages.
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You're never above replying and being a reply guy.
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And Turner had some fantastic replies.
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I'll kind of go down them.
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Let's go through the greatest hits. Greatest hits. Wow.
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Devin is a game changer engaging with Cognition Labs. We love to see that.
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Uh we were talking about how expensive podcasting is.
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You got mics, cables, cameras, uh $300,000 to spend on a you know branding agency just to get just to get in the game and Turner said each trust fund actually comes with a podcast.
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So that would explain why there's so many podcasts. sense.
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He also was trying to get wire instructions for Baldo's seed round which again showing that engagement with other reply guys.
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Yeah, got a syndicate of reply guys going on.
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And he actually said you guys are doing it all wrong.
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You don't actually need a podcast.
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You just need to be able to tell people you have a podcast. Oh, interesting.
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Telling someone you have a podcast gets you all the same benefits without having to deal with any of the downsides.
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So this is a you just have a podcast you can say hey do you want to come be a guest on my podcast.
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And if they say yes maybe you do a podcast with them just to you know show like you know extend an olive branch.
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Having somebody on your podcast is the modern equivalent of an olive branch.
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He also is dunking on TechCrunch a little bit.
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He says TechCrunch has been real quiet since the technology brothers got together.
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So anyways love to see this.
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Um He he even took it a step further.
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This kind of was the icing on the cake.
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He did not release an episode of his podcast during Thanksgiving but he used that as an opportunity to promote technology brothers podcast.
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So setting setting a new bar.
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I see a pretty you know vicious rivalry emerging between Baldo and Turner. Yep.
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Bright future for both of them as posters but certainly going to be continuing to get at it in the comment section.
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So congratulations to Turner.
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We'll be getting you your medal in the mail soon.
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So thank you for replying and never stop.
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Near Sayan says I am purchasing Mark Zuckerberg's golden chain for $15,420.
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69 and it's one of Zuck's gold chains in support of the Edge Institute.
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And this this was all over the timeline.
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People were very excited about the auctioning of Mark Zuckerberg's golden chain which is very cool.
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I guess this was donated, but you know the whole backstory.
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Can you break it down and then tell us why we are awarding the brother of the week not to Zuck, but to someone else? Yes.
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Uh so so anyways, so this auction was hosted by a friend of the podcast and friend of ours Justin Mares.
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So Justin uh has his own company TrueMed.
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And Taylor made suit fire.
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Made made made his money in bone broth, but more recently has been um you know, in the in the uh running TrueMed.
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Uh he's also a venture partner at Long Journey Ventures, uh famous uh venture capital firm.
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And uh Justin has created this thing called Inflection Grants, which is a program where if you're 25 and under and $2,000 would change your life, you can get a grant.
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So this could be uh getting a plane ticket somewhere.
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Let's say you're living in in uh you know, Tennessee and you want to get to Silicon Valley, they'll give you a grant that lets you fly out, meet somebody, and potentially change the trajectory of your life.
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Uh it could be a computer.
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Let's say kids in high school and they're like good at video editing and they want to get better at that, they'll give them a grant to buy a computer.
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And so this entire auction are are Taylor made suits eligible? Yes.
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So so if you're uh if you're a Gen Z founder, you're going to Y Combinator, you want to stand out, and you want to get a tailored suit uh from Fiorentino label, uh $2,000 uh is not going to get you that, but you could go down to SuitSupply and pick up uh pick up a suit from there.
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Um and so yeah, it's an amazing program sort of you know, adjacent to Teal Fellowship, but more more accessible and uh just goes to show that it doesn't take that much money uh to to change the trajectory of someone's life, right? Um so very cool program.
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And so this chain, they were able to secure uh Mark uh Zuckerberg's uh former daily driver chain in auction it off uh enabled to raise $100,000 for Inflection Grants.
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And so uh that's 50 people that are going to get this grant.
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Um and so if you're interested in the program, uh, go to inflectiongrants.
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com, I believe is the uh, thing.
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And congratulations to Justin, uh, one of the, you know, founding brothers of the week. For sure.
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And, uh, nobody deserves it more than him this week. So, Thank you.
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Let's, uh, continue with potentially a future brother of the week.
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Luke Metro, he's been on the show before.
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He says, "It's kind of cool how raising a seven-figure seed round is generally easier than getting a job as a VC associate." Interesting.
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Yeah, we This was somewhat, uh, somewhat controversial in the in the group chats.
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We had we had that this this behavior needs to be shamed, and I think he was talking about the pattern of VC associates or something?
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What was he saying exactly?
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he was saying it shouldn't be that easy to raise millions of dollars for your company. Got it.
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And I can see it both ways.
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Feo's point of view is is a lot of people their first few ideas that they work on are just not going to be that great, right?
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And, uh, it's sort of resources that are potentially wasted. Uh, I can see that side.
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Uh, the other side of this is that the VC associate job is just not at most firms is not that.
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You're kind of like a BDR, SDR, like cold reaching out to companies.
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The good companies don't want to talk to the associates, and so it's just sort of like a role that has a bunch of busy work.
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And maybe it's, you know, maybe it ends up being a pathway to joining the firm as partner or joining another firm as partner, but I think in a lot of funds the the associate, uh, role is a is a is almost like a death trap.
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Um, but I I think it's generally good that that more young people will be better qualified to be investors later in life if they like build stuff.
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So, I think it's generally good that, uh, it's it's it is and, you know, Luke is just like identifying this, but it's pretty wild how it's some for some people it's easier for them to get it to raise a seed round than get a job.
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Which is which is actually probably very a a a indicator of how strong our innovation economy is.
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Yeah, I mean if you think about it just like a like almost like a tax on large VC funds.
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If you raise a billion dollar fund and you put a hundred million aside for million dollar seed rounds, that's a hundred companies.
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You're not going to hire a hundred associates with a billion dollar fund. Yeah.
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And so the math just plays out much better.
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You get all these call options and then all these companies Yeah.
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It really does seem like it's a better job.
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That would be an interesting fund strategy though.
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It's a hundred million dollar fund with a hundred associates and they just fight.
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They just fight for the death.
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There's a leaderboard every single week.
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Who's talking to the most companies?
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Who's doing the most deals?
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There are some funds that track calls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the CRM.
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Like you got to be making forty calls a I'm sure. Yeah. Forty calls a week. It's crazy.
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Oh well, I I I I agree with Luke on this.
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I think I think it is it is wild, but I think it's the correct Eric's model.
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Um, Erroneous Input uh created a fantastic meme of us. I love this.
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This is Reply Guy of the month or week uh level posting.
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He's a candidate for sure. Yeah.
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Do not stop Erroneous Input. You're on the map. It's a beautiful photo.
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Found some great photos of us from the show.
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Photoshopped them in to this uh the sports car in the snow and uh really really good job with the cropping and the masking.
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Just this was not It's not a hack job. This is this is class. I like it. Um, really really good.
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Probably could have blended in the TB logo into the hood a little bit more.
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Dusted a little snow over the hood.
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In in a couple months he'll be pulling out the 3D rendering software, really baking it in, but Using Sora. Yeah, yeah, maybe.
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But we we we we love to see the user user generated content, where it's going, how it's growing.
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We appreciate what you do for the show. Great work.
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We wouldn't be who we are without you.
34:29
Uh let's go through this three post deep dive by Arthur Rock, funny name.
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Uh and I think did you want to did you want to start with uh the Steph post, Steph Mui.
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She says, uh a GP from a multi-stage VC firm is anonymously posting private revenue numbers and funding rounds of large companies that are apparently quite accurate.
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And they only have 450 followers and most of their tweets have almost no likes.
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And uh Arthur Rock is posting 11 Labs 90 million ARR planning 100 million EOI profitable closed unannounced round at 3.
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2 billion from Iconic Growth and A16Z.
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And um Arthur Rock also says 20 million dollar ARR in the first two months, fastest growing software company ever, raising 80 to 100 million at 1 billion, have a few term sheets first week in market.
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And then Arthur Rock closes with saying, "My DMs are open if you have some tea.
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It ain't much, but it's honest work."
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So, yeah, what's going on here?
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Break down So, you remember last uh last bubble uh 2021, there was an account, I think it was called genuine info or something like that, that was just con- similar approach that was basically leaking major deal making that was happening. Yep.
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You know, months or 2 months out before it was getting publicly announced.
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And so, Arthur Rock, great name, uh I actually don't know what it's in a reference to or Arthur Rock. Arthur Rock.
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The original GP or the original uh like VC, basically.
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I just proved I'm a zoomer. Yeah.
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Um the original GP himself.
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So, He's the first the first venture capitalist.
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The first venture capitalist.
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So, great uh great name and uh some some interesting intel.
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Uh I actually DM with him a little bit last night.
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Um nice guy, uh technology brother himself, clearly.
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Uh but yeah, I I'm I'm I'm it's an interesting strategy, Gatten, cuz I think at some point some some schizo is going to just try to pinpoint all of this and put it all together because on one hand I think it's a lot of this information by the time that but he he's not sharing anything that would
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be potentially damaging to companies but he's certainly front running the news cycle which our friends at the misinformation like to do quite a lot and so anyways I'm interested I think I think I'm long this account I'm investing sub 500 followers he's got a bright future and it's it's one it's one to follow. It's funny cuz I
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one it's one to follow. It's funny cuz I think it will whip GPS into this hysteria because they're going to see sometimes announcements get done and GPS are like punching the air because they just didn't see the company at all and it just like happened and they're like
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how did this happen without us seeing it and now it's even earlier than that like the term sheets are basically already signed and they're seeing Arthur Rock announce it and they're just like sending Arthur Rock's post to their principal being like how the did you miss this? I love how you say during the last
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I love how you say during the last bubble because it's just like you're always in a bubble you're either in a crash or a bubble there's no normal time. Yeah yeah yeah.
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And this is true like when I got to Silicon Valley in 20 2012 2013 everyone's talking about tech in a major bubble and then that bubble went on for a decade. That was a great bubble. It's a great bubble.
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But I think we're in the best one yet the America bubble. Yeah.
37:46
Jacob Sansbury says having kids in the next 5 years might be a tragic mistake every smart bio founder / scientist I've talked to seems to think that embryo editing for things like short short short sleeper reduce cancer risk etc is possible on a near term horizon.
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Imagine having two kids a couple years apart one is a superhuman and the other isn't.
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Sorry Jim little Timmy won't get cancer only needs 4 hours of sleep and your normal and your normal you were just born in the wrong order. 3K likes interesting.
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The the problem with this is that like these innovations like it's not it's not going to be some binary step change it's going to be very smooth, and so like yes, every every kid is going to be healthier. D-cell alert. D-cell alert. No, I'm kidding.
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I I I I looked at this and more like part of being human is being imperfect. Yep.
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And uh I I plan to have, you know, many more children with my wife, and uh Go watch Gattaca.
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And uh the indomitable will of the human spirit.
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Yeah, and and and and uh my children are perfect to me, even though I'm sure like one of them needs more sleep than the other, when you know, all these things.
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So, I think it's pretty human.
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technologies will be possible once you're alive.
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There'll be medications, there'll be all sorts of different hacks like do you want to be in the first generation of fully gene-edited children, where you're like, "Oh, I want to make sure I want to allow them to only sleep 3 hours, so they can grind harder."
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And then and then it creates this like insane side effect, and it's like, "Yeah, maybe you want to cycle a 20-year cycle."
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All of them became serial killers.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Um yeah, I just want to edit for not being one-shotted by ayahuasca. Yes, yeah.
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In case in the downside that my children Yeah, also, if you talk to a parent and you said, "Hey, there's this new experimental uh gene editing technology that will let your kids sleep for 4 hours."
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I don't know a single parent would take that.
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Every night, where is the 12-hour sleep? Yeah, yeah, every night.
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You're basically optimizing for make sure this light is on.
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Yeah, longer sleep, blackout curtains, noise machines.
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Two, let's do two noise machines.
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Clearly doesn't have kids.
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Overlapping, have you done the overlapping noise machines? it. How does that work?
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There's levels to the noise machine, yeah. I love it. Okay.
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Uh Cora says, "Today was the day I finally broke.
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I was accidentally not disassociated enough on the streets of San Francisco and projectile vomited from the yucky sights." Oof.
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This is interesting because uh I I looked at Cora's profile, and she's like a very normal tech person.
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She's not some like raging right-wing lunatic who's like agitating for culture war.
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But 10 years ago, there was this guy Greg Gotman who posted something very similar talking about the homeless problem in in San Francisco and he was canceled harder than like anyone ever.
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Like could not get a job for years for years.
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And then he kind of bounced around.
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I think he's doing okay now, but it was really really rough.
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He wrote a post about how like San Francisco has a lot of homeless problem and like we need to do something about this.
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And everyone was like this And he was canceled for that? Incredibly canceled. Like terrible.
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He got hired at Twitter for a little bit, got fired. It's just crazy.
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I basically missed this era cuz I was in basically in high school.
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But um you said Dustin Curtis got canceled for liking nice things.
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This guy got canceled for identifying the homeless problem. It was it was rough.
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And yeah, the tech industry hadn't learned to like circle the wagons at all.
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And so there was just it was just complete it's complete scapegoating and then just ostracization.
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And you just become an apostate very quickly for for doing anything like this. It was crazy.
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And yeah, Greg was a little too early on that one.
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But it's interesting to see like just you know, from what I can tell just like a completely normal person in tech.
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Like not not raging like oh some culture war like clickbait, you know, trying to like rile people up.
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Yeah, it's not a contrarian thing.
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I mean I that's my some of my core memories of San Francisco unfortunately are being a kid and like walking around and being stunned at some sort of very traumatizing Yeah. situation.
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I mean I I lived in the Tenderloin in 2012 2013 and it was it was rough, but I mean I'm a tall guy.
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Most times people would just be like oh do you play basketball?
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They get kind of distracted.
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And once you're once you're like a local, people just kind of clock you as a local. a basketball, right? Exactly.
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And a jersey when you leave the house. Yeah.
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So it wasn't It wasn't that bad for me.
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But I went back after COVID and I'd seen everyone on Twitter in San Francisco talk about how bad it was and I was like, okay, I'm going to try and be objective here.
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Like how can I quantifiably say if it's actually worse or if that's just some sci-op from tech people?
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And the thing that I I landed on is being like something that I noticed that was physically different was the number of barbecues that were on the street.
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Like more permanent encampments. Wow.
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Because you're actually like living and cooking and like sometimes even hooking up gas lines and stuff.
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Like It's like very, very permanent installations on the street.
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And I was like, I I don't remember that happening.
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And so you can never really tell if it's like, oh, you're you see a street and there's a lot of homeless people.
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It could just be like, well, they moved from five streets to one street.
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So there's not not actually a gain in the number of homeless people.
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But um, the the the barbecue thing really, really stuck out to me.
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So I do think there's an issue and I really hope they solve it soon.
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And apparently the best way to solve it is to have Xi Jinping come and visit. You saw that? Gary Tan.
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Yeah, Gary Tan's leading the the the serious charge, but anytime there's Dreamforce, Marc Benioff just like clean up this entire city. Yeah. Let's go to Will Quest.
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He says, that sound you hear is tech investment bankers everywhere canceling their holiday plans and breathing a sigh of relief.
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And it says this post is unavailable.
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Should we even cover this or No, that was um, that was uh, something about ServiceTitan. Oh, okay. Cuz it was ServiceTitan.
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They they priced it at like 70 and then it went out at like one over 100.
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And for a long time the tech IPOs would dip right after. It was rough.
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And then the SPACs were like aggressively bad.
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And so so many VCs were like, let's just stay private longer. Yeah.
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But now the game's back on. M&A's back on the menu. Lina Khan's out.
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IPOs are back on the menu.
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Start underwriting your seed investments to decacorn outcomes.
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It's okay to invest at 50 posts pre-revenue, pre-idea, pre-team. Just do it. 50 posts.
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Wait, 50 50 50 million going into the seed round. 200 3 250. Right. Sorry, sorry.
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We're building AI here, man.
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We need We need some cloud credits.
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Oh, this is a good one, but we're a little bit too deep in the post.
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Garry Tan says, "I want this. I would fund this, too."
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And it's Andre Karpathy talking about building a tool to help you read along with a book.
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We talked about this last time, but Krish then says, "I love you, Garry, but you guys literally rejected me."
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And he posted He posts his his company.
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But, the beauty of YC, you can apply again. Garry wants it. DM him.
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And if you want an AI reading companion, go to get getmeaning. xyz. getmeaning.
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xyz/home Do you really need the slash home, bro?
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Yeah, and go get a meaning. com.
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And I mean, what a what a real poster. He included a link, 2. 5k likes.
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Real posters built different.
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Yeah, built different, broke through. Respect.
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Yeah, so, you know, never too late to apply to YC. You can always get in.
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Go buy a works went through at like 200 million valuation. Promoted post. Not a promoted post.
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I'm just going to jump in cuz this one is near and dear to my heart.
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I got a post from Druva Rajendra, close friend of mine.
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Yesterday, Druva and myself and the Detearence team announced Detearence, which is a new company leveraging robotics to manufacture energetics.
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So, for anybody that's not heavy heavy in defense, a lot of the high-profile defense tech companies like Anduril have been going after these sort of very sexy programs like drones and autonomous submarines.
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And there hasn't been a player yet that's come out and made a um made an effort to rebuild the sort of high-volume manufacturing base.
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So, for anything like, you know, munitions, in the case of Detearence, Detearence's first product is manufacturing primer, which is the explosive um sort of like thing that that starts the uh reaction in a in a um in a bullet in a round in a bullet. Yeah.
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Um and so yeah, Deterns has been in the works for let's see, some uh you know, uh Druva and Brian, the um the founders had been working on this for um since, you know, last year at this point, but um company got uh out and running earlier this year, uh built, you know, fantastic team, and yeah, this is a company that I was fortunate enough to be involved with since probably 6 months prior to incorporation.
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Go So, personally got a front-row seat, and um the team now is stacked, uh Tesla, Palantir, Rivian, um bunch of, you know, incredible engineers and operators, and uh ridiculous customer backlog.
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Like, we we're able to identify something that um that has a shocking amount of demand.
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And so um if you're looking for a job, check us out, deterns. com.
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Uh I got a number of uh positions open, and uh this was a fun fun round for me cuz my my good friend Will Coffield, who's here in LA, led um led the round, uh $10 million in in total financing, and a bunch of friends of the podcast participated as well.
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Heston Berkman, Jack Dreyfus, people like that.
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So, um very exciting, and it was good to finally get this out.
47:27
It's always It's always It's always a strange thing when you've been working on something in silence for Yeah.
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up up you know, oftentimes more than a year, and so to finally get out out there and see the reaction is great.
47:37
So, good work to the Deterns team, and um yeah, this is one to follow. Fantastic.
47:45
Let's go to Avi Schiffmann.
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He says, "There's nothing more nauseating than an than a Tesla Uber."
47:51
And you had some comments on this.
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What's wrong with Tesla Ubers? Break it down.
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What's wrong with Tesla Ubers?
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So, being in Malibu, like Uber is super unreliable.
47:59
So, I always have to like I have a driver that will take me to the airport.
48:03
And uh, I had to tell him like stop picking me up in your Tesla because yes, it's like, you know, maybe environmentally friendly and it's just convenient, modern features, or whatever.
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But it's just so nauseating sitting in the back.
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And a lot of people don't I have been slow to sort of realize why this is.
48:22
The obvious one is the acceleration.
48:22
It Teslas have like the acceleration of like a turbo ass, but like even like throughout like the full like it's just like way too much acceleration for the average person.
48:31
Uh, it's like driving an F1 car on the street.
48:36
The regenerative braking, so the the car automatically braking creates this to to to sort of recharge the battery.
48:43
Creates this effect where it's this fast acceleration and then you take your foot off the gas and it sort of breaks aggressively more so than than if you just let it sort of coast.
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And then the big one that that um, the I should put on my Put my tin foil hat on to maybe protect me from some EMFs, but um, Teslas just emit like a ridiculous amount of EMF, um, which is, you know, sort of low-level radiation.
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A lot of people say that it doesn't uh, have any negative effects, uh, but there's quite a lot of evidence that it might.
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And uh, you can actually go on YouTube and just search like Tesla EMF reading.
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And in most Teslas, the EMF levels are much higher in the backseat.
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So, when you're sitting in the backseat, you're getting like you're basically getting microwaved.
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And then the car is like, you know, accelerating, decelerating.
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It's not a very um, not a very amazing experience. So, uh, Yeah, exactly.
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So, if you're driving and you're the one on the gas and and and on the just trying to get there as fast as possible.
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So, they're going to be really pushing the acceleration and braking to get there faster cuz they want to do the next ride.
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Whereas, if you're driving yourself, you might be a little bit more leisurely.
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But, I want to see I I know that there's stuff Tes- Tesla can do to mitigate EMFs.
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Some other car manufacturers have made efforts on this.
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So, I'd like to see them prioritize it because I don't have anything against Tesla as a manufacturer. I think it's great. There you go.
50:12
Let's go to dudes posting their W's.
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He says, "Buddy is the most condescending word in dude culture."
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And there's a meme that shows a hierarchy.
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Guys that say big dog are at the top.
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Guys that say bro and man are after that.
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And then sir, bruh, chief, dude, son, and fella, and buddy are at the bottom.
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So, stay away from and buddy are just so much farther than chief.
50:35
I don't I don't think chief is derogatory, but Yeah, well, it's about the it's about the hierarchy.
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Like, are you Like, when you say big dog, that's like a sign of respect.
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Sir, chief, these are boss.
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These are These are You're You're paying respects upward.
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Then, there's brother, which is equivalent. Man, equivalent. Dude, sir, even.
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But, then when you go sun, that's younger.
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And buddy is like what you call your dog.
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And so, it's like, are you talking down to people?
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Are you talking up to them?
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Are showing a sign of respect?
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Sun can also be used in the right context can be um you know, positive. Damn, son. Like that.
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No, more like, here, come on, son. I'll teach you. very negative.
51:16
It can be But, it's more familial.
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Like, it's got a more positive But, that's why technology brothers. We're all equal here. Yeah, we're all equal.
51:24
I do think that if a VC calls their portfolio founder bud, they should be diluted to zero.
51:30
Like, there should be like some type of new round with structure down to just delete them to zero cuz it's so condescending and uh should should be taken out of the vocabulary entirely. That's great. This is interesting.
51:43
Word grammar says, "Most of Peter Thiel and Paul Graham's advice is directly contradict each other. You have to pick a side.
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Trying to follow both is a good way to make sure you end up following neither."
51:56
Word grammar, I'd never seen him until this post, him or her, um but a great post and perfectly controversial. Yeah.
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Which is why the engagement seems strong.
52:07
yeah, I mean, I think that the I mean, the funds are set up wildly differently. What?
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Yeah, I was going to say, "You're perfectly qualified for this.
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You've been through YC twice." Perfect Peter. Work at Founders Fund.
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Uh yeah, so I mean, the funds are set up wildly differently.
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Like YC invests in thousands of companies.
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Founders Fund is extremely picky.
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And they're trying to teach you two different things.
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I think YC is effectively just, "Can you start a business?"
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And by the end of YC you like most of those founders unless they mess something up, they will have a company, like a business.
52:42
I talked to a YC founder that went through they tried to build some like SaaS product and then they wound up it didn't they didn't really have traction and they wound up just being a software consultancy. Yeah.
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And so the guy makes a great living as a software consultancy and it's just like a lifestyle business essentially. It's great.
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Um whereas the Founders Fund Thiel model is very very narrowly selected for monopoly power Power law moats or power law outcomes.
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Can this be a trillion-dollar company?
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Yeah, it's not it's not underwriting.
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Oh, we think this can be they can IPO and have a $10 billion market cap.
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Are we going to still want to invest in this company at a $200 billion valuation? Exactly. Exactly.
53:21
So, that's just a wildly different question and you would never get that in a YC interview.
53:24
Like, "Oh, like let's make sure that you can that it's plausible that this could be a trillion-dollar company."
53:30
No, it's like, "Are you an interesting hacker?
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Are you building something?
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Do you want to build a business?"
53:34
the cool thing is that YC generates a number of power law companies, right?
53:39
Coinbase, uh Lucy, uh uh Yep.
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uh uh Airbnb, Airbnb, Stripe.
53:45
So, they they still generate these these trillion companies. Yes.
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And and uh Founders Fund will back those companies. Yeah.
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But, it's just a much different method, but they both work.
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with word grammar cuz this one's great.
53:59
Uh God cursed Peter Thiel by making him Silicon Valley's biggest tech guru.
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Now, the minute he says something, millions of tech bros listen and agree with him.
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Because of his curse, he will never be able to be a contrarian ever again.
54:10
So, this is interesting and this is somewhat true, but um there are plenty of things that he doesn't say publicly.
54:18
Yeah, it's a timing mismatch. Yeah, exactly.
54:19
to say he's going to make everyone believe what he wants them to believe when it is convenient.
54:25
Yeah, it's a timing mismatch more just in the sense of like like there's clearly ideas that he's talking about with his inner circle, then workshopping in private events, then there's then there's private dinners where these ideas go out, and then maybe like 6 months to a year later, it's on a podcast. Yeah.
54:42
And so, Yeah, it's a very intentional he I would say he's understanding the weight of his words and being very intentional with how he rolls out that messaging Yep.
54:51
to not come out and be too dogmatic about one thing. Yep. Yep. Yep.
54:55
Yeah, too early or we we yeah, we heard a we heard a talk by him recently in Miami and um it was very clear that that was something that was still being workshopped.
55:03
Well, and and we've talked about this offline, but the it's still contrarian to actually follow Zero to One's approach to a T. Yep.
55:14
Where most It's very hard.
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most investors will say, "Oh, we're contrarian.
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We're only investing in power law monopoly companies."
55:20
But, then they'll do like a run-of-the-mill like B2B SaaS company still, right?
55:24
And so, they're not actually like fully embodying that approach. Yeah.
55:27
And I I my my my takeaway from Zero to One is always like if you read the book and you really apply it to your business, like what you're meant to do, what you're enjoying building, um the answer might not be don't start a company.
55:41
It might just be don't raise venture capital. Yeah.
55:43
And there are and YC is not that check.
55:45
But there are plenty of companies that get through YC and then they don't need to raise because they're not building in that zero-to-one playbook sense, and that's okay. Yeah.
55:55
Um but but it just it wouldn't it wouldn't count in that metric. Uh let's go to DD.
56:00
DD says, "Just learned that WhatsApp has not 10, not 20, but 150 designers all working tirelessly to make sure the app looks exactly the same as it did in 2014." 92K likes.
56:12
Yeah, so this is crazy because the X design team, which now includes my dear friend Brandon Jacoby, who we've covered on the show before, the X design team, I think, is under five people.
56:23
Like it's some like tiny tiny, much more complicated product, I would say, in many ways to run a social app Yep.
56:29
um than a messaging app, even though WhatsApp has plenty of social features.
56:33
So, anyways, this goes back to what we've talked about before, why haven't more companies done the Elon and just cut like 80% of people.
56:39
But I guess WhatsApp being part of Meta now, maybe it doesn't have the same incentive. Yeah.
56:43
I also wonder if like a lot of those designers are working on like little new new projects.
56:49
like like like ad integrations cuz the core product does look the same, but there's a lot of like There's some Every simple product is deeply complex. Yeah.
56:57
All the different onboarding flows and like little screens that you don't see and you never really interact with.
57:03
Um but yeah, 150 is a lot of designers for an app that's pretty basic.
57:07
It feels basic, but yeah, I mean, Facebook has a long history of stuffing features in these apps.
57:14
Like Instagram used to just be photos.
57:16
Now there's like 25 different tabs.
57:18
Do you have to give them credit for keeping Instagram Instagram?
57:20
Like they've like hundred-Xed the features and it's still the core functionality of going there to see what's likely the most interesting posts for me at that moment in time.
57:31
Profile still fairly clean.
57:35
So, credit to them for that. Let's go to Lee Jacobs.
57:37
He says, "When Chase Lockmiller first told me about Crusoe, I said, 'Wait, you are turning large fireballs from the ground into Bitcoin in North Dakota?'
57:45
What started as that absurd idea is now the leading full-stack AI inference company.
57:50
Excited for the new fuel from our friends at Founders Fund." That is crazy.
57:54
Do you know Do you know the story of Crusoe, like how they started?
57:57
I don't know I don't know the full story.
57:59
I only know that Lee was one of the first investors.
58:02
He was the first investor.
58:04
and so Crusoe, they they the the whole play was like finding stranded energy and then using that for compute to power supercomputers.
58:13
And so, what they did was they found natural gas plants where they have to flare the gas.
58:17
And so, there's excess gas that comes off, they can't capture it, it's just going to burn, and that's bad for emissions.
58:22
So, instead, they burn it and they turn it into energy that then they can use to power the computers.
58:27
And at the time, the most valuable use for for cheap energy was mining Bitcoin.
58:31
So, they started there, and then obviously AI came up, and the Bitcoin mining business has kind of taken a backseat to the AI infrastructure right now. That's very cool.
58:41
So, yeah, it's a crazy like second and third act for that company that was only possible because they took the path they did. Yeah.
58:48
And for a long time, people were kind of like, "Oh, you're like a Bitcoin mining company.
58:51
Like, this isn't interesting during the downturn."
58:52
And now that the AI boom's here, it's like, "We got it."
58:56
All the all the VCs that probably passed when they were you know, doing something that was less on narrative.
59:02
But we we joked about this earlier, but the you said the Crusoe founder said they some of these mod foundation models would burn whale blubber if they could. yeah, totally. so desperate for energy.
59:13
So, this goes back to just energy being one of the kind of core Yep.
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foundational layers of the AI value chain.
59:19
Just today I saw Satya Nadella was doing a some sort of interview press conference for No, press conference for Microsoft and he said that they're no longer GPU poor like GPU bound like and everyone's like oh well bear case for Nvidia like they they have all that they need it's I don't think it's that I think that they're buying the maximum and now they've hit a different bottleneck which is probably energy which is crazy.
59:41
Do we have a promoted post?
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It's a term of endearment but it's very silly.
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Let's go to Mark Sisson he says when I heard the New York Times was suing Open AI for using its archives as training data I knew relying on LLMs as arbiters of truth was beyond all recognition. So real. So real.
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I mean Yeah I I I think you have to models do a good job of processing broad I don't know you could argue maybe they don't do a good job but they're they're aware of bias and trying to piece together what what they imagine is the truth.
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But it's the same thing same end thing that an individual is doing of like looking at multiple sources and trying to piece together the truth.
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Uh the truth is is um it's hard to nail down often times in the world that we're in, but um but yeah, you certainly this this goes back to there's a company out there called Dexa that I think is interesting and it allow they basically uh scrape all the Binger podcasts and so you can ask what is Mark Cuban think about uh this, you know, gluten, right?
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And then and so this goes back to in the era of models. Yeah.
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Uh you're still going to go back to individuals.
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So I'm going to trust I'm going to I'm going to trust the experts more Joe Rogan and Andrew Huberman.
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No, but like like yeah, obviously joking, but like Mark is a good example where I want to know what Mark Sisson thinks about about um seed oils, right?
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I don't want to know what what open AI thinks about it cuz they're probably going to say, "Well, popular science says there's there's no issue with seed oils."
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Yeah, and he's calling out New York Times and there's been some crazy crazy quotes in the New York Times recently about health.
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Like I really would trust Huberman way more than New York Times.
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Uh didn't they say like ultra-processed foods aren't bad for you? It's like Yeah, yeah.
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So I can just eat Oreos all day long?
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Like this is nutrition 101.
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Trust trust You shouldn't be eating Cheetos all the time.
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This is not like some contrarian crazy idea.
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This is like pretty basic.
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Anyway, we have some breaking news, folks.
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Lucy Guo has broken her silence.
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She has not posted in hours, but she just dropped a banger pod with Molly O'Shea.
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Uh the queen of LA is talking about the creator economy.
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She's the founder of Passes and we encourage you to go check out the podcast.
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And Lucy was also posting yesterday that uh she has millions of dollars in short-term capital gains and she's looking to marry somebody who has millions of dollars in losses that's ideally local to LA. Yep.
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so you and and and the two of you would be able to split the differ the savings and then and presumably get divorced soon afterwards, but anyway, so if you have millions of dollars in short-term losses, go hit up Lucy.
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She's got a solution for you to make some of that back. Fantastic.
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Let's move on to Daniel Tenreiro.
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I need to learn how to pronounce his last name.
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He says the Robin Hood Foundation is running a stock picking contest for donors and the leaderboard is truly a work of art. Put it in the Louvre.
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And the leaderboard is Bill Ackman at the top with a total return of over 100%.
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His long pick was Fannie Mae and his short sector was financials.
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Wait, so is this this is put on by Robinhood?
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No, the Robin Hood Foundation with a space and the funny thing here is that number two is Mark Gallant and his long pick was Robinhood the company. Wow.
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And his short pick was communications.
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And then MicroStrategy was a long pick for Mark Gallant again and uh and David Einhorn picked Peloton.
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Wait, do you have back I don't actually not familiar with the Robinhood Foundation.
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I I'm I'm I'm I'm not familiar either.
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It's I think it's just a uh This is why you come to the Technology Brothers Fund.
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You get the facts and the deep analysis and backstory.
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Uh so if you know what the Robinhood Foundation is, let us know in the YouTube comments.
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It's probably literally in the second post here in the thread, but I didn't study for this one.
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We we phoned it in, folks.
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Uh this is an interesting one.
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Zach Elias says Coleus, is that how you pronounce it? I don't know. I wish I knew.
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Uh Zach says played credit card roulette for the for the dinner bill last night with a bunch of VCs and it was surprising how uncomfortable a bunch of them were.
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What happened to the degen gambler mentality of our asset class?
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For a neutral EV bet, it is such a no-brainer. Such a no-brainer.
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I love playing that game.
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Well, it's not always neutral EV because what if you're the one that ordered the most drank the most wine, ordered the most steak, housed all the appetizers?
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It could be extremely positive EV for you.
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So, maybe the people that were sheepish, they just had a little salad on the side and they're like, "Ah, I'm going to get burned here." to get burned, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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No, I just go into that you want to be going to dinners where you would happily pay for everybody Yep.
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and still feel like it was a good just exchange, right?
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Because you're going for the company, it's not about the food, it's not about how much you ate, it's not about how much you drank, it's about who you were there with and what deals you got done. It's great.
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They say BuzzFeed has sold the show Hot Ones for 82 82. 5 million dollars.
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So I mean that would be a down round for us if we if we sold for 82.
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We wouldn't even clear the pref on that. Yeah, I know. That'd be rough. But good for them.
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I hope they I hope I hope they did okay.
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That wasn't that wasn't that That feels I feel like it was originally reported that they were trying to sell it for like 30 or something like that. Oh, really?
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And So it seems that that's coming in a lot higher cuz I I think a lot of people just looked at that and they said the show was so reliant on the host that how do you really attach enterprise value unless you're locking him up for pretty extreme time period.
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So maybe they they figured out a way to do that.
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But it's funny cuz BuzzFeed I think was wasn't weren't they trading at less than that or something?
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They were trading I thought they were trading at like 20 million dollars.
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Well well that's the equity value and so I think BuzzFeed has debt and so even if they sold this for 82, they might still Yeah, they were using they were using BuzzFeed or they were using this sale to to reduce pay down debt, yeah. Makes sense.
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Um I do wonder about that.
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I do wonder about if there's if there is asset value beyond Sean Evans because his I mean he obviously is a great host.
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There is but his style is very much like ask the question and then kind of get out of the way.
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And there have been talk shows in the past that have had asset value beyond the core host.
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I think the best example is probably Late Night which traded hands from Jay Leno to Conan O'Brien in this very dramatic situation where then Conan got pulled and Leno came back.
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You heard of this whole story.
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It's like the late night wars.
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And so, but that's that's very tied to there is there are only 24 hours in the day.
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There there's going to be a late night show that's on Monday through Friday, and there's only three spots for late night. It's like 10:00 p. m. 11:00 p. m. midnight.
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And then you get into the late late show that has no value.
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And if you go earlier, you're in prime time and you want to be showing like scripted stuff.
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And so, there's only for a while it was like there were only four channels, like NBC, ABC, Fox, CBS, or whatever.
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And so, there were really only like 10 slots for late night shows that do would do interviews for adults after the kids go to bed, that type of stuff.
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But, with the internet, obviously there can be unlimited interview shows, unlimited podcasts.
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And so, BuzzFeed uh like Hot Ones has obviously built like this incredible brand.
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It was originally with Complex, then sold to BuzzFeed.
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It's traded hands a few times now.
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Um will be interesting to see where this goes.
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I mean, it doesn't seem like Sean Evans is stopping anytime soon.
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And it seems like they must have gotten him a great deal.
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And and I bet part of that 82 was, you know, built into his contract and predicated on a great contract there.
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So, always interesting to see what's going on in the podcast world, but we got to wrap up. We got a lot to do.
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