i just went on and i ordered your new album on vinyl which looks amazing by the way super gatefold sleeve with the pull out it looks amazing thank you then i just received this in the mail because i'm doing a little unboxing ceremony in front of you right now this is very this is this is very millennial youtube right here tune in kids and you know do you know
what's really funny out of nowhere i swear this wasn't rehearsed it's your buddy and his old band like oh my god oh my god it's fun it's it's fun you know i can't bring that up with your friend anymore because he's just like when you stop banging on about fun i've moved on um he's done a lot since then he has done a lot since then but do we have to be do we have to be
reductive of our past because we have a desire to move forward is the question is that does that come along with the territory i think that there's i always feel sometimes looking back at a high school yearbook photo i can assure you my high school yearbook photos were not very flattering why would you do that why would you even look at that i'm saying listening back to old works
sometimes you feel like like why was i wearing that what was i thinking with that hair i mean well i guess the joy of it is st vincent is that we get that part of the trade that you can you can feel free to move on and to discover new territory and we get to just live in that in that house as long as we want to that's our that's our joy that's a very
charitable way to look at it that's true it's not for me anyway it's it's for others now okay therein lies an interesting one um because yeah you finish something and i guess the that part of the process is done and i've always been fascinated with what the relationship is with records when an artist has finished them is there any relationship between you and
daddy's home now aside from getting ready to play it live it's interesting because usually what happens when you're putting on a record is you know the six months prior to putting it out you're like prepping and you're getting videos ready and you're doing interviews and you're just like on this kind of treadmill and then the release happens and it's sort of
it's sort of like um like plotting and planning for a party that kind of never happens because the record comes out and then you're done with it you know what i mean like it's for other people they can enjoy it or not or take it however they want to take it but um it's a really i was having this discussion yesterday as a matter of fact it's so
uh it's so funny i mean the real joy is in making it and then getting to play it live yeah i enjoy it and i and i'm and i'm deeply fascinated by every part of how what you put into your music we all are everybody is everybody and i think that's part of what trips us up is that we get so drawn into your world that we're not quite sure where the line is you know and and i and
i've got to ask you at this point because we're so close to the release of this record and you have done some some really interesting stuff leading up to it from performances to your point conversations videos all of it wrapping up this beautiful experience but you establish a line when you come out and then does it get tough for you as people get
closer and closer to the edge of what this record is about of what you're trying to say of who you are because there's making it and then there's talking about it right and they're not mutually inclusive yeah and um i find that i i am good at putting the story together in music form and that makes sense to me and that's sort of like well that's where like
a lot of the care all of the care you know all of the all of the inspiration kind of comes from and then you realize as you start doing press you're like oh god i'm i'm gonna have to talk about things that i maybe thought i was kind of settled in that i might not be as settled as i thought i was and um it's another it's one thing to deal with it in art but it's another thing to
kind of deal with it in conversation when you yourself are kind of figuring out or how you feel about it is evolving in real time that's tough because all of a sudden it goes from being um an embellishment of the creative experience and and a creating of context into a very human experience it's like huh how am i going to translate that going
forward it's all wrapped up in the record that's the thing it's another incredibly personal record but this time i feel like you have really dressed it up and you did last time as well mass seduction was that different outfit but this one is so like of a period of time we talked a bit about it before but it doesn't mask the personal story it's it's
it's a laid bare record it is i mean all of my records are so personal um it's uh but i understand that um there's certain things about this record i think partly because of the palette it's just these like warm inviting sounds or there's this psychedelic aspect that's just like kind of soothing like hey come on in have a glass of tequila sit in the beat up
armchair kind of vibe that i think that warmth in the sound of it i think belies or adds to the kind of warmth of the stories in it and and my point of view in the stories in it which is again it's flawed people doing their best to get by and impart in perfect situations which i think includes all of us like i think that's just what life is it does but you know this is the artists
this as heavy as the crown right because you inspire so many with this creative and this amazing ability you you spark our imagination we will get drawn deeper and deeper into it how deep do you have to go to get it out of you and was that two-part question was that warmth that sound that you were creating in the studio did you need that to draw it out of you
was was it a part of the process of actually telling these stories well i think that certainly when i was writing songs early on and trying to figure out what the sound of them was and i tried a few things but songs like this that are like groove based loose like you know play a little riff and get out of the way you know things kind of coming in and
and leaving and never returning that kind of just like ambient floating logic of water kind of thing those those sounds again like help me tell these stories and so when i discovered that palette i was like oh okay i know what i can do i know the stories that i want to tell because they are they can exist in this palette they can insist in this uh in this color world and in this you
know reimagining of this era but i want to ask you you know how important that the writing of this record and and the personal nature of it in relation to your family was to you how important was it to you could we have not even heard this record is what i'm really asking you and you still would have made it in some way shape or form or done something like
that i need yeah it was something that one there's the aspect of this kind of music that i'm referencing which is like it's really sophisticated you know but it doesn't sound like it just sounds musical it's from you know that era when like rock and jazz and blues and all that stuff was fusion well radio would play weird it was cool you can be weird you can
take it wherever you want exactly and god i mean what a great era and not to be like the past is better and because it's absolutely not but radio was um it was cool it was cool we can agree um so there's an aspect of my approaching that kind of music with a humility and like oh i am qualified to approach this kind of music i'm i'm qualified enough as a musician now
to approach the depth and the sophistication and put it you say he no you say humility but man show off like you and jack and the team get in the room and just be like wow this is what happens when you stick at it yeah you just you know because the thing about that music was everybody could play yeah and so like oh i can play i forgot you know yeah yeah i forgot
it's really fun to just play music you know and and have it be free so there's that aspect of it just as a musician kind of coming out it was like okay i like kind of like okay sensei i'm i'm ready i'm ready for this lesson so there's that and there's the other aspect of it which is that um the impetus of writing it was framing it and like the fact that my
dad was in prison for 10 years and he got out you know and that was hard that was horrible it was um it was horrible it just was i mean and i wrote about it in other records but i never really you know talked about it head-on and then it was like became a tabloid piece that was just like oh god that's not how i ever would have i wouldn't have talked about it
to begin with and then it was sort of um thrown out there as this like salacious can you believe and it's like yeah well sucks part of this album really is like reckoning with what happened and reckoning with like who i've become in the process and then reckoning with like you know sometimes we get new information that makes us rewrite the stories we've been telling ourselves
you know some you know what i mean oh yeah and so you go oh sh you know like i was thinking about it this one way but come to find out yeah everybody's i'm and i'm talking about it in a sort of like esoteric way but like everybody is kind of on their own path living out their own pain in certain ways and you intersect and sometimes what their the expression
of their pain doesn't look like what we would think it would look like and so we don't recognize it as pain so what does that do to the albums that you made before to some degree and i know you don't listen to them but but surely there are moments now you think back about the records you were making where you were telling a story that felt so rigid in your head
changes over time those records are there to remind you of your journey right those records are there to remind you of what you didn't know yeah exactly exactly and and i'm god i'm so glad i had music to sort of figure it out but to to not to be to put a finer point on it i guess is that like um it was an incredibly painful situation it you know i think when you have
someone who you love um no matter how complicated the relationship is or anything like that who's incarcerated it's you do time with them you know you wrote you said that in the album yeah you know on the title track i mean that is that lyric jumps out wow that lyric jumps out you can't be passive when you sing that like and just it's so interesting on this
record because you've leaned into this era and you you put on the clothes and you become the person but the pain is in the performance for sure like there's no getting around that when you sing that line you did time i did time too yeah i mean yeah we all did you know it was terrible but but i think the thing that i am coming around to and that's been very nice is
that you know life is long and there really is there's the possibility for things like redemption and forgiveness and i have a nice relationship with my dad i really do he's you know outside my studio painting my deck right now you know like there's it's like i you know if if you asked me you know two three years ago if i thought that was going to be the case
i'd be like what oh you probably would have been like sorry i can't hear you what did you say look that's okay but you know yeah it's uh forget it forgiveness and you know moving forward and stuff that's that's a trip and it's i feel uh i feel lucky to have been able to explore it in a musical way and also i'm just i'm i'm glad to be able to move forward you