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Gentlemen, it's an honor to see you.
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Nigel David from New Zealand. Did you Did you Oakland?
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Did you ever make it down there?
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>> Yeah, we made it exactly to Oakland.
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In fact, 30 years ago was that sailing museum, which was fantastic. Have you been?
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>> Oh, the uh the maritime museum down in the vioaduct. >> Oh, you should.
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>> Yeah, I I not much of a sailing sailing person, strangely.
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Being from the city of sales, you >> fear the ocean >> a little bit. >> Yeah, me too. >> A little bit.
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And also a strange thing about being from New Zealand, everybody thinks that you sort of are born on a bungee.
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Well, I suppose you are to some degree because there's some there is there is some likeness there.
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>> Nature's nature's bungee. >> Nature's bungee.
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But but the the larger bungee side of things that we're going to throw ourselves down mountains as soon as we can walk.
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I never really got into that. >> Oh, good. Well, here you are. >> Absolutely. Myself. >> That's right.
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Well, moving around on your own power.
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>> Well, thank you for having us. >> Oh, it's a pleasure.
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It's not >> Well, we could be. >> No.
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Look at that on the wall. I know.
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How does that get on the wall?
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>> Well, Henry Dilts took a photo. How do they physically? >> I don't know.
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>> I've got some of his work framed on my house.
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Was it his idea to um >> steal from himself? >> Yeah. >> Always. He said that's job one.
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In fact, job one and two. Yeah.
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>> Of his or of the artist? >> Oh, well, of his.
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>> Interesting how someone did that.
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No, but the thing that that Henry's always had is a sort of um >> uh he's empathic, you know, with the subjects.
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In other words, he's all these great rock stars, he takes their photo and you know that deep inside he's going, "God, I could be there."
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>> He's a bitter bitter man.
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And that's why over there.
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>> Would you like to hold it? >> Curious. What is it?
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>> Uh it's actually No, >> it's a Martin. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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No, I know it's a Martin, but let's I can tell by looking at the back. Okay. Yeah.
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>> So, he's showing you the front. >> Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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>> That's a good way to go.
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>> It's a small It's a parlor guitar is >> Which one is that? Oh, that's nice.
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>> It's a small It's a par.
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>> When you pick the guitar up, Nigel, what's your go-to chord? Is it in fact D minor? >> Oh, no.
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The thing about >> He goes fancy pants jazzy chords. Yeah.
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>> And yet he hates jazz. >> Yeah.
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That's interesting that I feel like you weren't in the band at the moment when a real genuine jazz odyssey was under Sourcey Jack was actually underway and yet you picked the guitar up and it leans straight into what I would consider to be Bill Friselle's song book. >> Yeah.
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Bill Frisel's Afterbirth. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
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No, no, I know what you're saying, but he doesn't he doesn't care for jazz.
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He doesn't listen to it a lot. >> Yeah.
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The thing about it is it's quiet.
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>> You have a natural pl you have a natural ability to play jazz yet you do not like it. >> It's quiet.
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The thing is you can go [Music] >> Yeah.
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>> And the horns come in, you know. Exactly. Yeah.
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And someone will say, "So what is >> someone will say that that's really quiet?"
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>> Seriously, what are you doing?
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You're blowing through this thing.
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You're blowing through it.
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Does he even know he's funny? >> What? No, he doesn't.
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>> He knows he knows he's slightly mad.
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>> You know, he got the So, so what was funny? That was funny.
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That was That's a good That was They go They've got to pay for so what? Stop it is what I say.
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Because they're afraid to play very loud, >> right?
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>> So when you play quiet, >> people are going, "Well, I sort of can hear it." But what is that? >> Yeah. Did sound nice. >> Yeah.
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Very nice though to have this thing.
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I would have some work done on this.
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>> What would you How would you improve?
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>> Well, the top is a bit It could come down a bit here. They can do that work. >> Yes.
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>> But otherwise, very nice. Yeah.
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>> How many guitars now have you lost?
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>> Oh, she's she's working on something else.
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>> Have you lost count on how many guitars you have now, Nigel?
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>> No, I have an exact count. >> How many?
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>> You're going to think I'm kidding. Oh, wait. I don't know how many.
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Uh, I've given a lot away, but I have a closet filled and then I have a storage facility where I keep some. Yeah.
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>> So, and by storage facility, you mean like the kind of place that people actually store things?
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Well, there's a place it has to be temperature controlled for humidity because you can't have it too dry >> or the other way cuz the neck that could use a little looking after that.
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>> Okay, I'll let Martin that's going to that's good.
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It's a lot >> take them to an indie some independent guitar work someone whose work you know >> I don't want to keep Martin accountable for their work and if if the great send it to them that's the last thing you can do.
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Oh, you've had experience in that.
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>> No, you just don't want to go down that path.
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There people that really know how to do it. Yeah.
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>> The guitar that should never be looked at, let alone played.
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Does it remain untouched?
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>> No, that's a that's a burst.
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The thing is, as you know, cuz you or or don't is that Gibson made less pools between 58 and 60 are the ones that are worth a lot of money. Yeah.
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The bursts and the different there's a lemon burst of different ones.
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They're copying them now, but they're rubbish, basically.
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And that's when they started PAF pickups, you see.
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Before that, they were soap bar pickups.
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They were called P90 pickups, which I prefer.
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But then you get into the weeds of this and you look concerned. >> No, he's just bored.
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>> I'm not No, this is my listening face. >> Oh, I see. Yeah.
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And this is my talking face, apparently. Yeah. Yeah.
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So anyway, if you if you're a collector, you want those years between 58 and 60 roughly >> and they're a lot of money now.
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>> How many of those do you have from that particular time period?
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>> I've given away one and that was the the one I had I gave away.
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Yeah, I gave it to a very good guitar player that appreciates it.
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>> Would you share with us who that player was or >> should I? I don't know. Yeah. No, >> no, >> no.
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It's been talked about and written about.
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So >> that's why you do the research.
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I'm pointing at you as if >> Yeah.
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I'm shocked you're still here, by the way.
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When when we came in, he's as quiet as J. >> Yeah.
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He was making this motion, meaning I'm out of here, >> but then and yet he sits there.
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>> I thought it just meant he needed to use the men's room, which is essentially the same.
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>> I would imagine you would have more of a strong spiritual connection with him given that he's from the United Kingdom. >> Where exactly? >> Wales.
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Oh, well, no, please don't say that. >> No, come on. >> No, don't say Wales.
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>> Don't say it like that, I should say, because people don't be ashamed.
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>> Oh, >> to be a Welshman. Do not be ashamed.
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People >> Is that something people >> Well, people you say to So, where are you from? >> I'm from Essics. Oh, >> yeah.
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They make up their minds.
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>> Where's the proudest place in Britain? >> Sorry. >> Not many now. Leads. >> No. >> Leads. Lead. No, not leads. Oh god.
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>> They shouldn't be ashamed to be from leads either.
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>> No, listen around shame in general at this point, frankly. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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Actually, it's it's a shame being from Earth these days.
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If you really look at things, I agree with that because it was more quiet, you know, to Beron Tweed.
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It's right very far north on the border of Scotland and it's just a nice little village.
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There's no >> And how is cheese? >> What does that mean? How is cheese?
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Well, you're in the cheese business.
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>> Yeah, but that's a very large question.
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There are many people doing great cheese all over the world.
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There's it's come full circle.
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It used to be you'd go to Tesco someplace, it was just rubbish cheese, you know, all rubber cheese.
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It tasted like and now >> like a smoked cheddar though.
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They do a good Applewood smoked cheddar at >> Yeah.
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But that's sort of if you're a purist, you don't >> No, it's different.
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They're so difficult to >> Yeah.
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But there's lots of great cheese and I I love having the cheese shop. It's fun.
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>> My question uh for the two of you um you know what has been what can only be described as a real roller coaster ride of a career today.
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It is uh you know to get to the point where um after the last film uh it feels like the documentary maker and you got off on the wrong foot and you weren't happy with the end result.
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>> Well, he started on the wrong foot.
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He didn't tell us which foot he was starting on.
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We assumed the right foot. >> Yeah. And he was on the left.
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never trust a pair of feet you don't know well >> and yet you did again because in in making in doing in fulfilling this contract and ultimately doing this show that ended up be happening in New Orleans.
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>> Um we'll get to the result of that if people haven't seen the film it it doesn't end well.
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Uh but the decision to go ahead and work with Marty again after you unhappy the first time around makes me want makes me want to ask the question why.
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>> Well first of all there's a concept which is forgiveness.
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Yeah, you've heard about that.
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You know, if you read the great Chinese philosophers, which I have not I've not done, or I've heard people tell me about them. >> Yeah.
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They say, "Yes, he messed up, >> but you must forgive people in the end."
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>> And so, we looked at him and he's a pathetic creature in many ways.
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He's not been gifted with a how do you say in America, anything pretty much.
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and and yet he continues to try to do what he does, but he's not mean-spirited. >> No, >> in any way.
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>> Plus, listen, we we were happily apart.
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We we hadn't spoken in 15 years.
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It was a lot of bad blood, >> what have you, all settled now.
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>> But, you know, when he came to us after he heard that we had one more show to do, he came, he literally had his hat in his hand. Yes. Literally.
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>> The hat that he wears, which you never see him without.
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rarely see him take I've never seen him take it off.
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>> No, it's like Elvis Costello.
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He never takes his hat off, you know.
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Different reason, >> but there he was with his little cap off and and and we said, um, >> one more time for the one more time for the Gipper.
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>> Yeah, it was a bit sentimental really.
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Single tear running down his >> little cheek. Yeah, it was pretty sad.
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Uh when you say that there was bad blood for 15 years, um it seems to me as I'm as I've watched the the film, >> um that the bad blood existed a little more on one side than it did on the other.
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You seemed surprised, Nigel, that there had been an issue so specific.
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>> Well, yes, I think you're you're right.
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>> Did you even know you'd fallen out with David? Is my question. >> Well, no.
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It was confusing to me because we had all said, "Let's not do this, please.
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anymore and we went in different directions and then but there was something there I can't put my finger on it.
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It was a little bit tense, you know, and and I didn't know what that was.
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>> Well, it was all a misunderstanding really and I I spent a lot of lonely years >> when I didn't really need to. Yeah.
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>> And also to be mad at someone who didn't even know you were being you know no listen >> that must be the saddest thing of all time.
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>> Mia to be on a one-sided fallout. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right.
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Well, you've Yeah, you've put your own finger on it.
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>> You can't see this at home, ladies and gentlemen.
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But he has his finger right on it.
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>> Actually put his The thing is it's it is sad. Very sad.
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Yeah, you're it's tragic.
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Well, tragic implies it's important.
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>> I saw recently that you've yet to see the film, the finished the finished result. Is that true?
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>> We're seeing it tonight.
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As a matter of fact, Derek is not here. >> No, he's not. >> Derek is elsewhere. >> He's elsewhere. He might be in Wales.
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>> So he said he's very far away from you.
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He mentioned Cardiff last time we we spoke about do my Cardiff Swansea thing which is his way of saying what we don't know what that means.
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>> Well, he speaks in a code.
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He doesn't even understand.
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>> He's being very vague and I I wonder the film whether there's a purpose behind his vagueness of location. >> Oh, probably.
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Yeah, I think you're on to something. Yeah. >> Interesting.
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He's always beingounded by lawyers because he's in terrible he's he's been negotiating his divorce for 31 years. Yes. Yeah.
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>> You can call that negotiate. Yeah. Yeah.
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He's he's under the gun as they say in the states.
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>> There's a revelation at the end of the film.
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I'll wait for you to see it tonight.
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Um it may put into some context about um you know some things and >> well we haven't seen what what that would be but I'll take your word.
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you know, >> playing the shows when you first started playing the shows with volume.
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I mean, having had success early on with Flower People and and connecting with an audience and and audiences naturally want more of that.
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>> You decided pretty quickly to do something completely different.
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What was the reason behind that? >> You know what it was?
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There was a sort of a battle of the bands.
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Was it the electric zoo, I believe, in London or in Hammersmith >> and uh and there was a lot there were a lot of bands playing one day.
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Yeah, day into night all electric bands and it became sort of a competitive thing. >> How loud?
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who's going to blow out >> and it was a function of technology as well cuz what people had you had a vox you know like the 15 which was it's a great little amplifier >> but people wanted it louder and eventually had the 30 AC30 then Jim Marshall showed up on the scene and his shop that opened we we were in in the east end had to go way west to his shop way way west had never been in that section of London he opened the shop and there they Yeah.
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What did it feel like when you turned that on for the first time? It was unbelievable. It really was.
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It was someone understands what this should be, you know, the the JT45 or the this thing and then it was the 100 W and all that.
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And then we were home free.
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>> We toted all of that gear to the zoo. >> Yeah.
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>> And we finished the night.
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There was no way they could follow us >> and we did a two there was a 2hour uh rendition of Short and Sweet I believe it was. >> Oh wow.
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So it was almost like a there was a selection of bands who had a particular amount of time to perform but you ended up taking hours. Yeah.
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You see if you keep going if you don't end a chord and say thank you for then you're off.
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You know we didn't do that. We Exactly.
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>> Because if we stop then we have to leave. So we just kept playing.
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And one trick is modulation because you're playing an A and then you you sort of sneak up to C or whatever down to G, whatever.
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You can do that and the they don't know what's going on, >> right?
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They think it's a new song.
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>> They they they can't quite track it, which is fine. It's all loud. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah.
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And yet, having experienced the Marshall for the first time, which many have considered to be ultimately amplified perfection.
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At what point did you realize it could be improved and and you could take it one louder? >> Yeah. I spoke to Mr.
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Marshall and I got to know him a little bit before he died.
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>> Frank Marshall, right? No, no, no.
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From the seas from >> and he did understand my plight which was how can we make this even better and so it's in the first film.
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He did a special amplifier for me went to 11.
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My new amplifier goes to infinity.
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And think about that the amount of things where you can go with that.
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>> Don't think about it too much because it doesn't make sense.
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No, but it doesn't not make sense either because I needed to go to a place where other people weren't bothering me.
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>> How do you know when to stop if you can go >> philosophy question, isn't it? Yeah.
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>> It requires a sense of human restraint.
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Would you say that you understand that concept of human restraint?
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>> Well, I don't know really.
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I hate to come back to the Welsh thing, but when you're in Wales, there's so many people who say, >> "It's not to say you should hate being from Wales."
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>> No, no, no, not at all. I like it.
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I I had a I had a girlfriend from from >> We don't like I'm just saying we don't like people problems at Apple.
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I'm just >> No, the thing is I had a girlfriend from Swansea and she was lovely.
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But the first thing she said was, "This is it."
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And I said, "Well, you can go to other places."
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And and we I took her to London and she said, "Oh my Whoa."
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She said, "There's lots going on."
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I said, "Yeah, but you know, where you live is lovely as well in a way.
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You know, I could never read the signs, you know, they've got these street signs and I thought it was a practical joke.
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You know, if you're from Oh, come on. Really? P M P C P What? Yeah.
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Any That's a different story.
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The Amplify thing philosophywise is >> shouldn't I have at my disposal infinity rather than 10 or even 11? Yes.
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would some would be concerned that the idea of any musician searching for infinite possibility without restriction would suggest some form of God complex maybe.
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I don't know what >> golf I don't even play golf. He said God now.
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>> Oh, I'm not going to go near that. >> You know what?
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He's surprisingly without ego.
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>> Sans ego >> almost egoless >> almost except it's not as much fun to play to say as ego.
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>> No, I don't look at it that way at all.
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I think >> it's like a font >> son's ego. A what? The fonts. >> No, like like a font. Like a font. Like a font. Like a font. Like a font. >> Keep saying it. >> A type face. Like a type face. >> Son's ego.
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>> You see, I think he's >> comic son's ego. I see what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, thank you.
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>> No, no, we're not done. >> Okay.
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>> I'm just checking in because you seemed somewhat interested, but then as if you might have another thing going.
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>> No, no, I have nothing but that's fair enough.
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No, I have I not have I not No, it's shocking.
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>> Exemplified the traits of a family.
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>> I'm very surprised that you you're very intelligent.
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>> Is that a coffee maker built right into the wall?
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>> It's actually a camera. >> Oh, yeah.
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>> We don't always get to talk with people and you obviously you're intelligent.
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We don't come across that all that much.
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>> How has your relationship with the media been, do you think?
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A scale of 1 to 10 over the course of >> Not bad. No. Yeah.
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>> He's better than I am cuz he's more he has more What do you say?
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Well, you get into your moods.
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He gets into a mood and you can't get anything out of them, you know.
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>> Oh, well, we've seen that on the in the films and I can imagine also when the cameras aren't rolling that it's been a constant in your relationship.
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Your friendship is unique and fascinates us to a great degree.
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Um, we seem very different, but yet somehow there's a chemistry there.
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>> Yeah, there are times when we we can be quiet together as well as be loud together.
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That's what people don't really understand. We've taken train trips. Yeah.
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>> Uh, we took a rail trip. Uh, where were we going?
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>> Well, we were we were in near Belgium >> coming into Belgium going to Anto. >> Yeah.
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>> Not a great breakfast in Belgium. >> Oh, what? >> Don't you think?
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>> Well, I think No, >> no. Like cheese on a stick. >> No, no, no.
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They've got lovely waffles.
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>> They've got those what in America you call French fries >> at every meal. >> We had a lovely time.
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Anyway, I'm sorry you're so down on it.
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I'll speak to them about maybe they'll do better next time.
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>> The point was that we we this long trip. Yeah. And we never spoke. >> No.
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And you hear the And that wasn't the train even. That was something else.
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>> That's the old man behind us. >> He had those teeth. He had these teeth.
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That was No, they were clacky teeth. Clacky teeth. >> It's like that song. English teeth. >> Clacky English teeth.
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Yeah, >> English teeth >> for the gray the gray brown and >> that's a real song. Yeah, you can look that.
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Yeah, >> that's the weirdest computer I think I've ever seen.
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>> It's not a computer really. It's a slot. What is that? >> It's a It's a desk. It's fit. >> So, you could mix.
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You could You could bring up a commercial for uh something, right?
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>> It won't make any difference to you because you've chosen not to wear the headphones, which is an aesthetic choice.
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>> No, I didn't choose not to.
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It wasn't It wasn't given as a choice.
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>> Well, I think we have some headphones around.
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>> Well, now it's too late, isn't it?
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>> You know, we put the one up here for me.
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I assumed it was a to do it. >> Yeah.
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>> I'm drinking the water, too.
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But I'm also wearing the phone.
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By the way, you can keep that mug if you like. >> No great. >> No way. >> Yeah, man. >> Wow. It's pretty >> weighty.
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>> And it's the same color as the desk.
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>> It's made from real ceramic. >> I like that.
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>> No, this is very modern and sort of posh. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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Heartless and cold like that.
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>> Well, I appreciate that. >> Brutal. >> Brutal.
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>> Brutal in its uh >> simplicity and brutality. >> I'll pass that on.
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Um, you've lost some great people in your life along the way in this in this rock and roll highway. >> Oh my god. Churchill.
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When Churchill died, we all >> No, you're talking about the music world, I think. Our >> friends.
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We have to be specific then. Right. >> Yeah.
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So, I mean, we've lost count of the drummers and and and I don't mean to be flippant, but I mean it would be we'd be here all day if we paid tribute to your drummers.
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I think >> this is sort of a general overall, you know.
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>> Can we generalize a little bit?
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the the guiding accident explosions. >> Yeah.
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It starts to add up and it becomes less emotional.
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When you got past eight or nine of them that died, it became >> Yeah.
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You know, >> one drummer dead is a is a is a tragedy. >> And 12 12 dead. It's a stat a statistic. >> Really?
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By the end of the day, isn't it?
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>> It's a press release at that point. Yeah, it is. It is.
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It's also a reputation issue.
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I I noticed that getting a, you know, a new drama was particularly challenging for this final show. >> Yeah.
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A lot of them aren't willing to take the chance. >> Yeah.
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And this is LZ who takes a chance every day.
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He steps on stage with Metallic. Well, it's true. You could say that.
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>> I can understand what people don't, you know. >> Yeah.
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He's always got that lolly.
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He's got the lollipop stuck in his kisser, you know. >> Yeah, he does.
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He sounded He's found a way to >> do what he does. >> Yeah.
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You know, with this Talica thing going on. Um maybe um you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Who's that good?
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>> No, it's a pretty good lad.
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Um but I hear that um you know Chad Smith is like looking for um a new gig. >> Yeah.
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See >> see that's all right. That's good.
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>> Did Did it ever cross your mind that um the fact that the original cover of Smell the Glove um >> which was banned and ultimately we weren't capable of showing the world that although we did see in some form originally canceled. Yeah.
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Um that it became just a black cover just pure black. >> Yes.
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And then there you are many years later talking to LZ who probably really wouldn't be in a situation, excuse me, where he's able to um buy as much art as he's bought in his life.
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>> If it wasn't for an album that was entirely black. >> Exactly. No, no, no.
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We we discussed this with them.
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>> Uh they realized they were naughty and that they totally thieved >> the concept which wasn't even our concept.
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>> This is the this was the cover we did not want. >> We didn't want that. It just had to be. Yeah.
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They said no and then that's what we had. Yeah.
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>> Well, it it really strikes me that over the course of your career, one word comes to mind a lot, which is, you know, influential.
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And and I think that that often is a a rod for the back in many ways.
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It seems like a compliment, but in some ways you look back on the life of influence and wonder, did I get paid as well?
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And I wonder what exactly I want.
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>> Well, that's the the short answer is the same as a long one. No.
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Yes, it's a short Yeah, you Yes, you you are correct, sir.
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Yes, it would be nice to be paid occasionally for what we do.
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It would be nice, >> but that's a dream.
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>> Well, it seems to me that the shows are sold out and there's a good solid 20,000 people on the arena.
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>> Uh, it was a good show that we did.
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I haven't seen I haven't seen how they put it all together in the end, but yeah, they were very enthusiastic.
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the people, they knew the words.
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So, we can't always remember the words when we're doing shows, but when you see the people mouthing them in the front, >> that helps.
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>> But doesn't that mean that you're probably a little bit behind yourself when you're singing? >> Sort of. Yeah.
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But we're always a bit behind ourselves.
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>> But if you see stone, stone, it's >> stoneh.
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Yeah, you can do it after. And it helps.
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>> So, if I was to go big bottoms, >> well, look at him.
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First of all, there's no S at the end.
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But >> you >> I put an S on everything. I'm sorry. >> Really? >> Pluralysis. >> Multiple pluralis.
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>> I can't believe he's still here. Seriously.
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No, he's hanging in which is is great. >> Trust him.
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He looks like a bank robber, doesn't he?
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With this going on with this.
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>> He's got a big bag that says loot on it. >> This is my driver.
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He's telling me it's all right. It's time to go. It's time to go. >> It's rugby show.
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>> Were you going to go to the beach or something? >> Just not here. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds good. >> Yeah.
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>> Who's your football team?
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Do you support a specific team? >> Liverpool. >> Really?
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No, I'm not going to do that. >> L I V E R P Wait. >> O L Liverpool FC. >> Yeah. Okay, I can see that.
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Yeah, they've been good in the last few years.
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>> Yeah, they've been very sad 30 years before that though.
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>> Yeah, not as sad as my club. Yeah, late in Orient.
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Are you familiar with them?
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They're in League One now in midtable. League One. >> Yeah.
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>> Well, there's no coverage here in this.
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I live in the States now. I live in in Moral Bay. >> Well, you see it. You see it. I don't see that. No, you see it. You need a television.
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>> You have to get apps now, too. Everything's on there. >> I know. Yeah. Yeah.
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You can get like a UK football app and it's it's not I'm sitting there looking at my Apple Watch, you know. >> Yeah.
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Which is great, by the way. >> Fantastic product. >> Amazing tech.
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I don't >> I wonder what they're like.
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>> But I had one had with the early versions with the steam. Yeah.
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>> Well, you had to pull it and get started up like that. It wasn't a battery. Yeah.
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It was more of a moto than it is a prototype. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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Well, they they I understand they've come a long way.
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I should get a new one >> anyway.
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>> Well, maybe we can help you out.
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>> No, >> I don't think we can.
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But >> I don't think you can. >> Maybe. No. >> I mean, maybe. >> No. Listen, I know.
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just no one no one got rich giving money away.
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>> I would I would as a music fan I I would like to think that you had made some money from this.
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>> We made some money, you know.
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It's not that we made no money.
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It's just not >> well into three figures.
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>> No, no, we we get royalty checks once in a in a while that just dribble in, but not in the way that other people have.
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Uh you know, it's so >> I got a royalty check.
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was sent to me by I have no idea what how it happened, >> but it was um the guy who played Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar. >> Who's that? >> Terry um >> Garcia. >> Ted O'Neal.
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>> Terry Well, Teddy O'Neal. >> Teddy Neely.
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>> Teddy Neely was his name. >> Now you're talking. >> Yeah, I know. I'll look her up.
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>> Does anyone actually know who this is, by the way?
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Cuz I've never met her before.
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>> Oh, >> I'm just here for the here for the vibes.
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>> I think she may be here for the vibes. >> It might be. That's the most bizarre.
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>> We did not bring a vibe. I'm sorry. >> Sadly, no more shows. >> Well, who? >> From Spinal Tap. >> Yeah.
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Um, well, you never know, do you, though?
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You really don't really ever know if it's all over and final.
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>> There's a possibility there'll be one more show.
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Uh, we can't tell you when or why. It's a secret. When is it? It's a big secret.
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I'm not going to tell you. Sorry.
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I thought you were, >> you know, it might it might work. It might not work. We'll see. >> Well, depends. When is it?
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>> Not going to tell you.
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You would have been a really good spy, you know, because you would have gone it, you know, am I sick?
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We've got Where's Where's the code?
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No, you don't just say where's the code?
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You have to do some >> You lady, you a spy. >> Yeah. >> I'll bet you are. >> Yeah. >> Honey trap.
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That's where I think you are. >> That doesn't work. >> I'm out of here. >> Yeah. When's the show again?
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>> No, we're not going to tell you when and we're not going to tell you where. >> No, you Yeah. >> No. >> Ask Henry Dilts.
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>> He made an impression on you, but you got some great art out of it. Um >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's quite good. I like that.
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And then this keeps moving, which I don't understand at all.
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>> How would you know that when you've been looking at me the entire >> I'm sure you think I've been looking at you.
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>> Have you got eyes looking in your glasses and that's what I see now?
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That's that's right outside for some things.
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But Nigel, incredible attention to detail.
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Just for some things though, right?
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>> Well, if you write songs and we've done that for a long time, it's about details. It's not just words.
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It has to be about details >> and punctuation.
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Punctuation punctuation in this case. Yeah. >> Yeah.
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>> Which is uh important for shows. When's the show? >> I think so.
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No, I'm not going to tell you that. >> No. Yeah. >> Stop fishing. >> Good try. Nice try. >> We're back to spying. >> I don't fish.
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Remember, I'm not afraid of the ocean. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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>> There's some terrible stuff in the ocean. >> Yeah.
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>> There's a giant squid. >> Yeah.
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>> That'll take your ship right down, chew it to pieces. That's right.
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>> I saw this on the BBC website.
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They found a little fish. Did you just yawn? >> What?
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>> I think somebody just yawned behind you.
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Are we Is it Is this not Are we not >> We're sort of used to that, but let's see.
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>> Yeah, I know who it was, >> people. Hey. >> Wow. >> Get the bloody.
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What are you doing here anyway?
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>> Well, I never and you know, to be honest with you, I I know I know my place here.
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I've very much enjoyed our time. Spinal tap. Thank you very much. Bye.