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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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From First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we open up season 17 with Seth Rogen.
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He's an actor and filmmaker who's been a leading and very busy comedic presence in Hollywood for damn near 20 years.
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He has a pair of highly anticipated projects on the way including the Hulu limited series Pam and Tommy, which is set to release on February 2nd, as well as The Boys presents Diabolical, an animated anthology series set in the universe of the Emmy nominated hit series The Boys premiering exclusively on Prime Video March 4th.
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Seth Rogen, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me.
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And then this is now your third time doing Hot Ones.
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This is rarefied air on this show.
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What's going through your head as you prepare to dig in?
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Um, something you said, I think I was with other people both other times. Charlize and Dominic.
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And I think the first time I'm doing 10.
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So, eating 10 hot wings for me is not generally like a big deal.
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So, I guess we'll see how it goes. I'm excited.
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I'm looking forward to it. Okay, just go. Just go. Good. Easy.
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So, to open things up with Pam and Tommy, a series that documents the Pamela Anderson Tommy Lee Hollywood video that was famously stolen by a disgruntled contractor and then leaked to the internet.
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How do you quantify the significance of the Pam and Tommy sex tape?
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Like could a case be made that an internet show like this might not even exist if not for the tectonic shift that happened after that video napalm the internet?
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Um yeah, I think there's a a line that could be drawn between like just watching things on the internet and that tape.
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It's one of the first things that like was consumed en masse online in video form.
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The ingenuity that went into people trying to disseminate that tape, even though it was very wrong of them, is something that we all ultimately live in the shadow of, you know?
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My wife isn't good with hot food, so I gauge everything of like would I tell my wife this is too hot to eat and I don't think I think she Wing one just okay? Yeah, totally fine.
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Well, are you ready to move on to the second one?
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It's actually from Canada. Ooh. Special for you, Seth.
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Cedar smoked garlic hot sauce. Et fumée au cèdre.
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And actually kind of a spicy number two.
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You must be familiar with those.
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That is a spicy number two, though. It is. I I told you. I TOLD YOU.
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I'LL SO, AS YOU MENTIONED UP TOP, you have The Boys Diabolical coming soon to Prime Video.
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As someone who was once described by GQ as the patron saint of disturbing comics, what sorts of things do you look for in a comic book source material that make you think this would make a good TV show or movie?
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Something like The Boys was just like there it it was obvious to us, you know?
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And it's a funny journey with the comic because like me and Evan, my partner, like we're big fans of Garth Ennis, who wrote the comic.
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He wrote Preacher as well.
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And we bought the first issue right when it came out.
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I remember we were like, "Oh, my god, this would be like such a great movie like kind of regular people fighting superheroes, you know?"
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Um and we brought it to Sony and Neal Moritz, the producer, and they were like, "Yeah, this would make an incredible movie."
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Um we'll buy the rights to it, and then they did, and then they did not hire us to write it or produce it in any way, shape, or form.
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They hired other people to do that, and after like a decade of those people just like [ __ ] it up in some way, shape, or form, it like came back to us basically, and then we turned it into the TV show.
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I think people love superhero stuff, and Marvel's obviously very popular and and makes great films and and TV shows, but there are certain things they just can't do.
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Like it would simply be d- you know, it would simply be too damaging to their brand to have like a character kill someone with a 10-ft dick.
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So, as long as they are not doing that, it leaves uh a great opportunity for for us to do that. Calabria. Mhm. Ooh. Continental.
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So, you've appeared on the burger show multiple times, and I know that you're a connoisseur when it comes to the religion of burger, cheese, meat, and bun.
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Can you explain your theory that thick patties are for [ __ ] I just, you know, and I said that I'd say before the like smash burger craze kind of took over, which was a validating thing to happen in the wake of that statement, but yeah, I just Ooh, it went in my throat.
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I just didn't love uh I didn't love these thick patties that started sweeping the nation.
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And I love like a crispy burger, like a thin crispy burger, and I would also rather eat more small burgers than one big burger.
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But my being on that show led me to judge a hamburger competition, where over the course of course of one night, I ate like 50 hamburgers uh for the LA Food and Wine Festival, I think it was, And it was truly like one of the greatest days of my entire life. Uh, it was wonderful.
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Well, you're welcome for that. You're welcome. That was spicy. Ooh. I caught the pepper.
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I think I caught the pepper.
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I can see from your face you're catching the pepper a little bit, too. lighting up over here. Yeah. Ooh. Catching the pepper.
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So, your preference for making films for a low enough budget that nobody bothers to come and check in on what's going on.
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It really resonated with us here at the show cuz that's more or less the history of Hot Ones. Yeah.
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Why is 25 to 35 million dollars for you the ideal amount of money to make a movie?
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I mean, that's what it's been and I'd say that is shifting.
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Like, I'd say over the last few years have greatly they've made it much harder, especially for comedies.
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We've been lucky in that we've made a few over the last few years, but traditionally that has been a number that makes us a studio film, but never one of their bigger movies.
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And they're always off making like, you know, as we're making Blockers, they're making like Fast and Furious 8.
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So, it's like they're not worried about us cuz like Vin Diesel will come out of his dressing room and it's costing them like 10 million dollars a day or some [ __ ] like that.
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So, like our whole movie is like less than Vin Diesel wastes on the average like afternoon on a Fast and Furious film.
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And so, uh, as a result of that, they generally, uh, leave us alone.
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In your experience of pitching scripts, what have you found to be the most enticing or persuasive selling points to make to a studio?
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To a studio, if it's like easy.
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A movie like Neighbors, like that sold very easily.
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It's like, oh, like we're a couple with a new baby, we miss partying, we live next to a fraternity house, like, you know, you don't have to be a genius to see how that would like be a broad, uh, appeal, you know what I mean?
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But even something like like Sausage Party, like no one wanted to make, you know?
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And Superbad no one wanted to make.
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Pineapple Express no one wanted to make.
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So, like what's nice is now that we It's like now we can make like a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, but we're also trying to make like insane things that no one wants to touch.
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And it's nice that we can kind of work in in both worlds a little bit, you know?
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Okay, this is your own hot one sauce. Did you work on?
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Did you formulate this a little bit?
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Not I wasn't like in a bathtub mixing it up or anything. don't want to eat it. Bathtub hot sauce.
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But if you don't like it, Seth, let me know.
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You won't take it personally. Uh-uh. Very good.
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I'm not catching the pepper in the same way on this one as I was the previous one.
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I feel like this lineup It's kind of a shape. Yeah.
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I don't know what to expect.
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It's bobbing and weaving a little bit.
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This one's less hot than the previous one. Right.
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Like I assume at a little point where it's all just like insanity and excruciating pain, so it won't matter anymore. That's coming up. That's coming up.
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But in the meantime, Seth, we have a recurring segment on our show called Explain That Gram, where we do a deep dive on our guest's Instagram, pull interesting pictures that need more context.
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So, we'll pull up the picture over here on the monitor.
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You just tell us the bigger story.
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How big a thrill was it for you to share a performance of Young, Wild & Free with Snoop Dogg at Hilarity Yeah, this was Hilarity for Charity, which is Alzheimer's organization that me and my wife and some friends founded.
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And one year Snoop Dogg was the headliner.
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And he auctioned off a blunt for $10,000, which was I would say probably not a lot of Alzheimer's organizations can make that claim. But we can. It was amazing.
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You like every like on at a pretty regular basis find yourself in a situation where you smoke weed with Snoop Dogg.
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And that is like as far as like life, you know, signs your life isn't going terribly go, that that's that's a good one. All right.
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Up next Of all your vintage ashtrays that you own is there one that you describe as a holy grail?
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This one is a pretty rare one and and a pretty hard to find one is a cuz I think they're like hand painted Louis Vuitton and hand like glazed ceramic Louis Vuitton ashtrays.
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There's not a ton of them.
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I haven't seen a lot of them.
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So that one is pretty nice and I think it's from the 50s or 60s or something like that.
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Well, what I actually got really passionate by was like what companies used to make ashtrays.
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So I own a lot of like Disney ashtrays cuz I think it's funny that Disney used to make ashtrays.
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The government made ash I own a a bunch of NASA ashtrays cuz NASA made ashtrays.
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I own some from like the Department of Defense like things like that the FBI like they had ashtray like if you went to the FBI in the 70s they there was ashtrays there, you know, and they their own like branded ashtrays.
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So I became fascinated there's I have a post cereal ashtray and like a 7-Up ashtray like I just kind of became fascinated by like who made ashtrays at various points in their history.
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So yeah, that that that was a weird rabbit hole I've I've been going down. Coco ghost. Okay.
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How often do you like rub your eyes or something like Well, I've done it enough to where now I'm like paranoid about it.
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I like put that one in my ears. I got to hear it.
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But thanks for pointing that out cuz usually I'm just like all over our guests to be like careful around the eyes careful around the eyes.
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My friend was saying he was doing the Hot Wings challenge on New Year's and he got some in his pee hole. Ooh.
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It's it's a occupational hazard. It happens.
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Any sort of cross pollination hot sauce problem that you can have I've had. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
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So you've added a wrinkle into the definition of pothead by getting into ceramics recently, comparing it to a meditative hobby like yoga, except that you get a vase at the end of your Bikram session. Yeah.
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Do you have a go-to glaze recipe?
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Um I do have a go-to glaze recipe that um I kind of formulated on my own.
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So, I'm not going to not that it would make But it includes magnesium carbonate as one of the main ingredients, and that's what causes the glazes to glop up like uh my glazes do, and they have these like they're very bumpy and textural.
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And then you get better at it, which is nice, cuz I can't necessarily say that about everything else I do in life. Yeah, except for karate. Yeah, exactly.
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You were in the back of the class and then to the top, you know. Mhm. Just don't quit. That's the theme. That's the theme. Just don't quit.
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And speaking of speaking of not quitting Fortune and uh Jack 'n' Hyde 13 Angry Scorpion Jack 'n' Hyde Ridiculously hot. Ooh. Ooh. But going back in.
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I mean, you got to finish them, right? Can't stop, won't stop.
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My head is starting to sweat. Oh yeah, I can see it.
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And it's from somewhere weird.
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I like I I I can't definitively say sweat has ever come from that part or it might be a tear.
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I don't know if it's sweat or a tear.
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Liquid is coming from my head, and I'm afraid to wipe it away cuz my hands Is it true that the roller coaster montage in Knocked Up was one of the most difficult to shoot cuz Jay Baruchel has a paranoia or fear of roller coasters?
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Also, they make you puke. Yes. That day was [ __ ] up.
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And I think it's in the movie.
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Jay's having like a full-on panic attack. Yeah, he's not acting. No, he's not acting. He's like, "Get me out.
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Get me out of this [ __ ] thing."
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And then the rest of us had to ride it like [ __ ] 10 more times or some [ __ ] like that.
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And we're doing the [ __ ] falling thing.
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Jay was like having a nervous breakdown.
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Like Jason was on oxygen.
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I was like half passed out, half vomiting on Dramamine all day. So, yeah.
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Is it true that uh one of the seminal scenes of 50/50 where Joseph Gordon Levitt's character Adam is shaving his head, that that was uh improvised?
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You guys were improvising the characters as the cameras were still rolling? Yes.
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That was uh that was high-stakes improv.
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Yeah, I'd say in the pantheon of head-shaving scenes, G. I.
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Jane, Empire Records, 50/50.
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Put it on the Mount Rushmore.
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My own saliva just betrayed me.
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It reminds me like once I had to film in like a blizzard and my mouth or like mouths froze and we couldn't talk.
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That that's That's what that's what's happening right now. But the opposite, yeah. Okay.
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But we're getting going with the great stories though. my best.
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I'm trying to take my mind off it. Yeah. That one That's a lot.
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They going to ask Tony if it never gets any easier. There's nothing.
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This is the kind of thing that you like this morning when you wake up you're just like I know at some point today this is going to happen to me. It's a fun job. You like it?
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Except for except for this part. Yeah.
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You know, they all have their pitfalls.
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And it grows, and it grows, and it grows. That one is a lot.
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I'm like sweating and I'm afraid to take off my glasses cuz I'm like afraid even of like the PROXIMITY OF MY MY HEAD TO MY HEAD. MY HEAD TO MY HEAD. I CAN'T TALK.
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SO, I know that you're a student of comedy film and you mark one of your favorites as The Last Detail, the 1973 Hal Ashby directed film starring Jack Nicholson.
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What did you mean by "It's always about the joke, it's never about the camera moves"?
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I think I think for comedy and it's something I grapple with a lot is that like you know, when you I think as a filmmaker when you make things, your instinct is to make them look fancy and I think the conundrum is at times for comedy the less fancy it looks the funnier it is and the more simple it is the funnier it is.
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That was a close call what I just said. Yeah. I got you. I got you.
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And so South Park should never be able to be as funny as like a Pixar movie because it doesn't look as good, but that's not how it is.
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Like thing doesn't need to look good to be very funny and at times honestly like the worst Fight.
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some conventional standards a thing looks the funnier it is. I'm dying. My lips are burning. Me too. Me too.
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like a little chapped all day today and I was like, "Oh, no.
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That's going to be such a bummer later."
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I feel like I have like a an inch of standing water in my left eye. I can't wipe it.
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This next one is the PuckerButt. Great.
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That's what you're secretly thinking whenever you're eating this stuff is how will this make my ass feel and the PuckerButt brand was They spelled it right out for you.
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be like, "We'll [ __ ] tell you.
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It's It'll make your [ __ ] really hurt." Oh, yeah. That was a funny noise.
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You're just preparing yourself. Okay. Okay. Very hot? Mhm.
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But after the last one Not as Still very hot though. Yeah.
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This one's making my gums hurt.
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They keep trying new parts of my mouth to make hurt.
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I keep being like, that's the whole mouth, but no. Checking all the boxes. Checking all the boxes.
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So one of your first big breaks was a writing job on the Ali G Show and recently that you tweeted that Sacha Baron Cohen is the only person I know who truly risks his life for his art.
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During your time on the show, do you ever recall an instance of being worried about his well-being during a shoot? Yes. Lots of times.
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We went to spring break kind of messing with really drunk aggro frat guys.
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There was a point where Sacha had to like run away.
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Oh no, I keep like snorting forgetting that I'm just like sending like a concentrated rocket of hot sauce saliva to the back of my mouth.
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So yeah, he would go and shoot all day and then come back and like show us the footage basically.
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I remember that was one where like he was almost getting killed and he ran away.
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But he was wearing his mic and so you could still hear him and he stayed in character the whole time and he was Bruno.
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The whole time he's like, they're going to kill me.
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They're going to kill me.
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And he's like hiding in a shop he's like, sorry like and you hear him like talking to the shop owner like asking if he could hide and like and he never broke character the entire time but he like was legitimately running out of fear for his his his well-being.
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Speaking of of fear it's time for the final sauce.
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And going into sauce 10 we'll be joined by a very special guest.
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Kevin Do we have his own wing?
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Way to blow the surprise. Sorry. You can edit it out.
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You control this footage.
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All right, for wing 10, we have a very special guest, screenwriter, producer, director, Evan Goldberg.
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You guys have been collaborators since you were literally kids, and now look at us, tag teaming the last dab together.
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Should we eat off the same wing? Your choice. Your choice. have our own.
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Let's stick to Yeah, but before that, it's traditional here to put a little extra on the last one. You don't have to. My head feels crazy. Yeah.
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Do you need any help opening that? I can't swallow it. I TRULY FEEL INSANE. IT feel I feel nuts.
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You look normaler than you think you might. Thank god. My mouth is burning.
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I'm literally thinking like, do I have any other things I'm supposed to do today, cuz I don't think I can do them.
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Uh, we're we're we're writing a book together and Oh, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
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NOTHING BETTER TO PRIME YOUR MIND. IT'LL DO EXACTLY.
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It'll shake the ideas loose over here. Cheers, guys. Cheers.
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Normally when I see people on this, they say like, I don't feel anything at first. It instantly hurts. Yeah.
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Well, Evan, you're not here, you know, eating the wing, you know, you're just on a straight vertical ramp up right now. It feels like I am.
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Oh, it hurts my lips real bad.
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The lip pain is by far the worst part.
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I'm sweating so much my glasses are like sliding down my head.
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But so careful with the hand over there.
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It is beautiful to watch, a sight to behold. This tastes great. I am into this.
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to soak my lips in the milk.
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I need to eat more of this.
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Evan, we got a bottle for you to go.
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We've got a bottle for you to go.
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This was a great This was a great quick visit. I'm so happy right now.
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And congratulations to the both of you conquering the Wings of Death today.
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Maybe this is a surprise to Seth, but at this point, I'm going to turn the show over to Evan to ask Seth a question that only a close childhood friend could know. Only.
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An intimate Wing Ten conclusion to the season 17 premiere of Hot Ones. Okay. Here's what I got. Okay.
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Seth has done many brave things on camera, off camera.
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You've been a brave partner in our business endeavors. That nice.
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But there was a time in 10th grade when you did one of the least brave things I've ever seen someone do. Oh, no. It was in Tsawwassen.
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Do you have any recollection of perhaps the moment I'm referring to?
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I do remember this, and it was a cowardly maneuver.
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AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT IF YOU WERE MY FRIEND, I would always look at me a little differently after this.
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like a decade, but I'm over it. We were uh Tsawwassen.
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Let's start with Tsawwassen.
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That's the name of a town.
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Tsawwassen's a place that's like 40 minutes outside of Vancouver. Oh my god.
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It's like working its way along my lips and spreading on the inside of my mouth.
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Um and uh they had a giant paintball facility, like a huge outdoor paintball facility, and we all went paintballing there.
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And these guys showed up that were like professional paintball guys. We're like 15 years old.
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And they're [ __ ] loaded with paintball bullets, and they have like automatic paintball guns.
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We have like the pump action cheap shitty paintball guns.
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like what their guns could do. No.
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And they right away, from my memory, just like [ __ ] unload, like a torrent of like automatic gun kind of thing.
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And I run off into the woods as literally all my friends get annihilated.
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As these men like like I got shot 25 times in the back.
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Then you must have been alone in the woods getting memory, I LIKE RAN AND I WAS LIKE, "WE DID IT, GUYS. WE GOT AWAY."
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I LOOK BACK AND I WAS ALL ALONE. THAT WAS LIKE, "OH, NO." LIKE WE ALL GOT HURT.
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LIKE I WAS covered in welts. Oh, yeah.
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They were like bleeding and then I came back and everyone was really pissed at me.
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They were like, "What did YOU LIKE YOU [ __ ] COWARD?
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WE WERE We were up front and you bailed out all of us."
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It's been uphill from since since then.
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I had to earn back their trust. Well, you know what? That's good to know.
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And Evan, I hope that this was cathartic for you to hear that story from Seth.
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at me just like this heat is eating my gum line.
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Oh, it is It feels like it worked into my teeth. But you know what?
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You made it through, Seth.
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Evan, you made it through.
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You reached the finish line, conquered the wings of death now for the third time.
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Hang that Rogan jersey in the rafters and now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you, Seth.
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This camera, this camera, this camera.
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Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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We have uh The Boys Presents Diabolical, which is an animated anthology series um in the universe of The Boys.
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It's I don't know if you've ever heard of The Animatrix.
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That was these series of short animated films they released when the Matrix films came out.
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Well, we ripped off that.
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And the only little twist we have is there's like eight different creative entities behind each of them and we do one and we have Justin Roiland doing one and Awkwafina.
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So, it's like a real wild mix bag and the animation's really different every time. Yeah.
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They're They're all really insane and wonderful.
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And February 2nd, Pam & Tommy comes to Hulu.
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I My brain is not My brain has been infiltrated by peppers. We did it. Great job.
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My body It sends like your system into shock a little bit. Yeah, no.
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Sometimes I do straight-up like walk out of here like not feeling my feet with like some light-headed action.
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you talked to a doctor about the long-term possible ramifications of continued You know what's funny about that is uh No.
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You know what's funny is I'm afraid to. Hey, Spice Lords. What's going on? Camera Guy Bill here.
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