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Selena: Why? Why do people do this?
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Sean: Hey, what's going on, everybody?
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For <i>First We Feast</i>, I'm Sean Evans, and you're watching <i>Hot Ones</i>.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Benny Blanco and Selena Gomez.
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They have a brand new collaborative album on the way.
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It's called "<i>I Said I Love You First</i>" and it's due out March 21st.
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Check out the single "<i>Scared of Loving You</i>" and "<i>Call Me When You Break Up</i>" featuring Gracie Abrams.
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But, in the meantime, it's an early dinner with the wings of death.
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Selena, Benny, welcome to the show. Selena: Thank you. I'm so excited.
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Benny: It's like a perfume of, like, Scotch bonnets in my nose.
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Sean: What's your mindset like, going into this?
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Do you feel on the same wavelength?
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Selena: That he's competitive and, probably, gonna win.
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Benny: I, I'm a shell of a human, already. I'm scared.
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Benny: Is it crazy to use a fork?
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Sean: It is a little crazy to use a fork, but I'm not gonna stop you. Benny: It's crazy.
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No one would ever do that. Right? I, I feel like I... Whoa. We just go in? Sean: Like, just go in. Benny: Delicious. Selena: I need ranch. Benny: Oh, yeah.
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There's ranch right here.
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You ask, and you shall receive, babe. Don't worry. Selena: Thanks, hon.
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Benny: Want a little ranch?
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Sean: So, I'm curious what it's like to make a pop record with someone who you have a deep relationship with?
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Did that kind of unique collaboration add any layers to the music that took you by surprise?
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Selena: I mean, for me personally, for sure.
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I was able to tell him things that I don't think I would in another relationship.
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Because, he was also, to me, like the conductor of, of this record. And I don't know.
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I felt like I could tell him things that, maybe, I was feeling, um, insecure about.
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That I wouldn't feel like I could open up to any other producer that way, let alone like a partner.
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Benny: That was a good answer.
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Sean: That was a good answer. Benny: No, um...
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it was like, when you work with people, like, sometimes you butt heads.
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And I feel like every time one of us had, like, a discrepancy on something, the other one was like: "Okay, yeah. That's, that's chill." .
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And we also got to make it, like, in our house, in our bedroom.
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Lik, it, it just felt low stakes. Oh, my God. That was good.
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Selena: Got a problem with that?
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Benny: Oh, this one's got, like, a nice little, like... Sean: Late life on it. Benny: Yeah. It's like a... (makes kissing sound). Sean: Oh, it's a kiss.
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Benny: Like, it's like just a little kiss good night. Yeah. I don't mind this one.
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Selena: What was that, babe?
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Sean: Little Thai green chili kiss. Benny: Yeah.
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Sean: So, Selena, I wanna take a wing to unpack that fateful day in 2019 when we did <i>Hot Ones</i> on <i>The Tonight Show</i>, and you were blindsided by "Da' Bomb Beyond Insanity". What do you remember?
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Like, sort of a play-by-play way...
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Selena: I remember not liking you after that. Sean: I could tell.
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Selena: I remember being very upset. I'm just kidding.
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No, it was actually, it was hysterical, because I, I didn't know what to expect, and I love to do a challenge.
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So, I was like: "Maybe it'll be like TV hot, so it'll be fine." .
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And when, when it happened and my face started to melt, and I was using this to scrape it off my tongue, thinking that would work. Um, I was just really...
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All I remember is being in a lot of pain.
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That's why I was nervous to come back.
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Benny: She was very nervous.
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Like, leading up to it, she was like, when we were on the way, she was like: "I don't even wanna talk about it." . And I was like: "What?"
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, I was like: "Are you, like, nervous? Are you, like, excited?" .
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She was like: "Don't talk to me." .
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Selena: I'm like: "I'm gonna do this." .
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I, now I know what it is.
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I just think when you're about to do an interview, sometimes, when you're sweating, it...
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I just looked like I was melting.
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Sean: Yeah, and you just trust Jimmy. Right?
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To do, like, a viral segment.
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And then here comes the <i>Hot Ones</i> guy with "Da' Bomb Beyond Insanity". No warning. Benny: Wait.
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You went only "Da' Bomb"?
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Sean: Well, on the talk show, it's not this, like, ten wing workup. Selena: Yeah.
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Sean: It's just a straight vertical ramp.
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Benny: You just, just full jump off of an airplane?
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Sean: Yeah, it was, like, the third wing that we did. Selena: Don't remind me.
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Sean: Yeah, let's just move forward on this one. Benny: Now, what's this?
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Sean: So, up next is a pickled garlic Sriracha. Selena: Oh, interesting.
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Benny: Oh, I like this one.
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Benny: I could do 12 of these.
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Just, like, on the game day.
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I don't even watch games. Sean: On the game day. Benny: I don't... on the game day.
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Sean: On the game day, Benny. Benny: Yeah.
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On the game day, I could totally... Yeah.
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Just like a game day type of guy, now. I just eat wings. Selena: I like this one.
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Benny: You like that one? Selena: Yeah. I, actually, do.
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Sean: Do you have a food hot take for 2025, or a dining trend that's driving you nuts?
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Benny: You don't have to have the pan be, automatically, as hot as it can be. I don't understand...
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when people start cooking, like, the pan is always, like, full blast.
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Like, you can cook it slower. It's, like, okay.
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And, like, people are always touching it too much.
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Like, if they're, like, cooking a steak, cooking chicken, cooking fish, they're, like, every three seconds they're, like, moving it, touching. Just, like, let it be.
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Selena: Do you know what I thought you were gonna say? Benny: What?
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Selena: That's when you're always doing something dangerous with a knife, I always try to hug you in the most terrible moment. Benny: Oh, yeah. She always...
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whenever it's the most dangerous thing in the kitchen.
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I'll be, like, frying like a, like a, like an entire lobster, and she, like, comes up and, like, tickles me, like, it's, like, whatever, whatever...
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No, it's like whatever is the, like, the worst thing I could ever do.
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Selena: I don't mean to, I just happen to pick those times. Benny: Yeah. Every time. Selena: Yeah. Benny: Okay.
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Selena: I don't know why I like to smell them before I try it. It has the kick after.
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Benny: Yeah, like, I remember when I did this last time...
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Selena: I'm at four, and feeling this... Benny: Oh, yeah. This one... how far are we?
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Sean: We're at number four. Benny: Oh, wow. Out of a lot, huh? Okay. Cool. Yeah. All right.
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Sean: Benny, can you unpack what you mean when you say that pop songs are like a DJ set crammed into three minutes? Selena: That's fun.
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Benny: If you went into a fucking club and, like, from the second you went into the club was just, like...
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and there was never any break, like, you'd have, like, a heart attack.
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But, if there's, like, you know, there's that second where, like, everyone's, like, the annoying people with the little gloves are going, like, this and it's like...
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and there's, like, this shit, people are hanging and, like, drugs are hitting...
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Selena: Where are you at? Benny: I don't know.
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You know what I'm talking about. And the... Sean: I feel you.
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Benny: You know what I'm talking about.
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Sean: Same wavelengh, Benny.
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Benny: Like, things are happening... Sean: Hundred percent. Benny: ...
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drugs are hitting, you're, and then all of a sudden they bring you up to the drop again.
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It's like, that's, that's where you want a song to be.
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You want it to have dynamics.
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Selena: Apparently, that's what a song, a pop song's to be. Sean: Gospel. Mic drop.
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What's something that artists and producers obsess over in the studio, that the general music listening public either doesn't notice or doesn't care about?
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Benny: We talked about this last night.
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Um, you know, we'll work for so long on, like, the sound of, like, a snare drum.
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And I remember I called my mom and I said: "Hey, mom.
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Have you ever noticed, like, different snare drums in different songs?" .
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And the first thing she said to me is: "What's a snare drum?" .
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And I was like: "You know, it's like the thing that happened..."
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, and she said: "I thought all of them were the same." .
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And then I said: "What about the kick?" .
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And she said: '"What's the kick?" .
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My mom looks at music as it's, like, one whole blob.
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Like, to her it's just, like, there's music and then there's the acapella, and there's nothing else.
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It's just those two elements.
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And meanwhile there's, like, 75 elements within that.
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And I think though, if you start to take those away, it, like, makes the song less exciting. People can feel it.
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They may not be able to describe it, but they can feel it.
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This does not sound sweet. Benny: I take it back. This is a little sweet. Sean: Got kind of a... Benny: I like this one. Sena: ... summer sauce vibe to it. Benny: Yeah.
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I like when you start going like this. Selena: Okay.
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Benny: What are you choppin'?
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Sean: We'll get used to it.
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Selena: It's getting hot.
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Benny: Do you want a little napkin? Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Selena: Thanks. Benny: Just making sure. Sean: Yeah. I see that.
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What's at the center of the Venn diagram of your musical tastes?
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And then I'm curious, on the other sides, if there are genres that you reserve for alone time?
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Selena: No, I play him everything, even if it annoys him. Um. I love...
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when I'm alone, maybe, sometimes I get a little emo, um, or in the car.
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For some reason, in the car I can get really emo.
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Benny: I feel like our intersection is, like, Patsy Cline and, like, Ella Fitzgerald. Selena: Yeah. Benny: That's like... Selena: That's fair.
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Benny: And then, she did get me into, I honestly didn't know...
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before we started dating, like, obviously, I was aware of, like, Taylor Swift's music, but I didn't, I wasn't, like, a true Swiftie until I was, like... no, I didn't know.
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And now I'm like, now I'm like, I'll be like: "Put that song on.
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How's that one go again?" .
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And like, we're in the car and I'm like, wow, I'm just like singing Taylor Swift songs from, like, ten years ago.
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And I'm, like, feel free.
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Selena: They're timeless. What can I say?
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Sean: Well, Selena, you know where else you've been a very positive influence?
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He's a much more manageable talk show guest, now, than he used to be. Benny: I like that. Sean: Yeah. Benna: I like that. I'm growing up. Sean: It's noticeable.
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Sean: Yeah, a total transformation.
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Selena: He said: "I'm growing up." .
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Selena: What's this one called?
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Selena: This is "Volkano". Selena: Oh, great. Sean: Yeah. Selena: Love the name. Sean: You asked. Selena: I know.
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Benny: I'm not, I'm not sure if I like the thing that it's doing.
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It just, like, keeps expanding deeper in my throat.
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Sean: That's kind of the trajectory that we're on, going forword.
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Benny: Oh, so now it's, like, about to be like really bad.
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Sean: But, you know what? We are six down.
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We're into the back half.
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Let's celebrate the progress.
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You once said that if you try to write a hit that it never works out.
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I'm curious, what's the most surprised you've been by a record success?
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Selena: To be honest, I haven't had like a, like, really any number ones, so... Benny: Yes, she has.
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Selena: I don't really think I've ever cared until, "<i>Lose You to Love Me</i>".
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I thought the song was gonna be, hopefully, relatable and beautiful and honest, but I did not expect it to do what it did.
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Um, and it was much bigger than me.
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Had nothing to do with what it, actually, meant.
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It ended up being a song for people that felt the way that I felt and, and, maybe, turned it into another version of a song that, that suited them.
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It was really powerful to me, and I think that's something I'll always remember.
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And I believe that was my first number one. So, I was very happy. Benny: Oh, fuck. Her answer's so good.
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Selena: Okay, I'm here for it. Benny: Okay. Selena: Let's do it.
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Benny: This says "crazy hot".
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Sean: Now it has, kind of, like a freshness. Benny: Yeah.
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Sean: Like, vegetabley... Benny: Oh, wow! Sean: ... kind of vibe, up front.
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Benny: No, I like this one.
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Sean: And then there's some action... Benny: Yeah, yeah. After. Sean: ... you know, later. Benny: Mhm. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling that. You feel the action? It's, like, so far back.
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How didn't I even know my throat went that far back? Like, I feel it so down.
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Selena: I just, I also, I like, um, I don't really like the flavor.
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So, the combination of the spice...
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Benny: I like the flavor. Selena: ... and the flavor. I'm really confused. Benny: She's confused.
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Sean: Selena, is there an old man tendency you've picked up second hand spending so much time with Martin Short and Steve Martin. Selena: I mean... I don't know.
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I sit there and read the news with them every day. Uh, we talk about...
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Benny: Don't they eat the same thing every day?
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Selena: And they eat the same thing every day.
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And now I eat the same thing every day.
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Benny: It's "Da' Bomb" hot sauce.
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Selena: So, it's either a tuna sandwich.
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Sean: Wow Selena: With, um, Dijon mustard or sushi.
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And now all I eat is a chicken salad sandwich.
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And for some reason, I'm excited to get my meal next to theirs.
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Uh, I feel like my lingo is pretty, you know, say... Sean: Old soulish?
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Selena: Yes, a little bit.
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Sometimes I'll say yes, no, and I remember as whilst I was, um, it's like, who am I? What am I talking about? But, that's just... that's Steve and Marty. I don't know. They're the best. Sean: All right.
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Selena: I'm trying to keep my cool.
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Benny: I blacked out about two minutes ago.
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I'm just staring this thing in the face right now. Sean: Right.
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And we're in this black curtain void.
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This is "Da' Bomb Beyond Insanity". Benny: Okay. Oh, cool.
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Selena: This is what I'm afraid of. Oh, okay.
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Sean: I'm giving you a warning this time, Selena. Don't smell it. Don't smell it.
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Selena: I know I shouldn't. Benny: Okay. And now what do we do? Do we dip it? Do we...
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Selena: No, I, I just sniffed it, and this is so bad. Oh, good grief. Benny: What do I do? Selena: Oh, good grief. Benny: What should I do? Just bite it? Sean: Just rip it.
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Selena: I was gonna say: "What do you mean what do you do?" . Benny: Um. Ooh. Sean: All right. Holy shit. I don't even...
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Selena: This is what you did last time. Sean: Yeah.
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Benny: I'm not even here anymore. Wow. It's getting worse. Sean: Yeah. And it kind of will. Benny: Does it ever... Selena: Oh, shit. Sean: Yeah.
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But, the good news is we're on the other side of it. All right?
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The rest of the show, it's downhill from here. I know, I know. Benny: Oh, wow. Sean: I know.
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And on this wing, what we wanna do is dust off an old <i>Hot</i> <i>Ones</i> classic. Benny: What? A throw up bucket?
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Sean: So, this right here is a bucket of questions. It could be. Multi-purpose. Benny: Oh, my Good. Benny: Hold on.
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Sean: So if you'll guys take that. Benny: Wow.
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Sean: So, here's how this works, is if you reach in there, you pull out a question.
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And it's a question that you'll ask to Benny, and then you'll pass the bucket, and then, Benny, you'll pull a question, ask to Selena.
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Selena: I hate you, so much. Sean: I know. I know. I get it. I get it. Selena: Okay. Sean: I understand, too. Benny: Ah. Benny: It's like...
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Selena: Which of my songs, not including the ones we've made together, is your all time favorite?
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Benny: Um, my brain is just going, It just keeps going...
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Selena: Will you answer the damn question? Well, answer it. Benny: Um.
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Uh, "<i>Good For You</i>". Wow.
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It's like, it doesn't go away, huh? Sean: No.
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Selena: I have to stand up. Sean: Yeah. Go ahead, take a lap. Take a lap. Selena: Why? Why do people do this?
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Benny: If you could kill Sean, how would you do it? What? Um, no.
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It's, it says what would you say my most underrated song is?
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You don't even know my songs.
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What just came out of your nose? What was that? Selena: It was my mouth. Selena: I don't know.
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Sean: Do you want some ice cream?
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Do you want some ice cream?
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Benny: Do you want ice cream. Sean: Ice cream helps. Selena: No. Sean: You're good?
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Selena: God, I'm such a little baby.
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Benny: Did you have any of the Pepcid?
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I had Pepcid before I came on.
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Selena: I don't know, I don't know what song... you would have done. I'm sorry, babe.
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Benny: I just get no answer? All right. Cool. Yeah. Don't worry.
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Selena: All your songs are amazing. Sean: Benny! Pull another.
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You can pull another one.
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Benny: Oh, just ask her another question. Sean: Yeah. All right.
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Selena: I, also, I don't think I care about anything. Benny: If you... if I were...
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It's crazy, you, like, lose motor skills.
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Um, if I were a wild animal, what kind of animal would I be?
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Selena: Monkey or koala bear?
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Benny: It's, honestly, the two I was thinking. I swear to God.
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Sean: If you're ready, we can move on. Selena: Please. Sean: Okay.
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So, this is the "Sicilian Scorpion". Benny: What? Is this one hotter?
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Sean: Not as bad as the last one.
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Benny: The key, that I realized, is you don't let it touch your lips. Sean: Mhm. Benny: Oh, fuck.
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I touched my lip a little bit. Just a teeny bit.
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Sean: Do you guys each have a favorite cookbook? Benny: Shut up. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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Do you have a favorite cookbook? Selena: You know what?
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I'm gonna stop being this way, 'cause everyone's gonna go: "She's being so dramatic." .
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You can already read the comments. Okay, fine. I'm cool. Benny: What? No, they wont.
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Sean: You're doing amazing.
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Selena: We live in a cruel world, Benny. Benny: What?
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You mean you're just cool?
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My favorite cookbooks are, like...
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I really like, like, the Alice Waters stuff.
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So, it's like the art of...
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oh, it like, whenever I breathe in, like, the art of simple cooking.
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And then I also like Joe Beddia's pizza book, and I...
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I don't wanna say any more stuff, I don't wanna... Oh. Matty Matheson. Matty Matheson.
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He has the best books ever. And Jake Cohen, every... Okay. Um. Oh... We eat the next one? Sean: It is that time.
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Sean: What are you doing? Sean: So, this... Selena: You add more.
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Benny: What are you doing?
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Benny: What are you doing now?
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My hands are, like, shaking. Can't wait. Okay, okay.
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This is the last dab, and we just do, like, one more... Sean: Incredible. Benny: Just one tap. Okay. Sean: Incredible.
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Benny: I'm going for the dab. Sean: All right. Benny. Selena.
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You guys have conquered the wings of death. Benny: Oh, wow.
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Sean: Having made it through the gauntlet, do you think this experience will have a positive impact on the relationship or cause strife?
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Like, do you think couples should go through the <i>Hot Ones</i> gauntlet together?
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Selena: Oh, I think it would be so fun to do with your partner.
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Benny: Can I do one more dab?
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Selena: You might hate them after, but... Benny: No, no, no.
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Honestly, I feel like having her by my, by...
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I feel like I would have crumbled without her. Like, she's here...
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Selena: Pal, you did crumble. Benny: What? No, I...
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What do you mean, I just took another bite, a double bite.
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Selena: Okay, you are showing off. Never mind.
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Couples, don't play this game. Benny: Why?
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Benny: I don't know, I like it. What didn't you know?
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You didn't know any of my songs? Yeah.
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She didn't even know any of my songs.
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Sean: We let bygones be bygones in this game. Long leash. You guys.
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Taking on the wings of death. Living to tell the tale. Selena. Now, for a second time.
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And now there's nothing left to do, but roll out the red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, this camera, this camera or this camera.
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There's a lot of cameras today.
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Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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Benny: We have an album coming out.
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Selena: Called "<i>I Said I Love You First</i>", because I was the one that said I love you first.
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And, um, I hope you like it. Benny: I love you, babe.
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Selena: I definitely won't... I can't. Benny: What? Selena: Um.
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Benny: No, I don't even want one. Selena: Yes, you do.
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And I hope you guys like it, and if you don't, that's okay, too.
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And, um, I don't think I'll come back to this show, ever.
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But, I'd love to see you any time. Benny: Oh, my God. Sean: Good job.
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Selena: Thank you, buddy.
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Sean: It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome.
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This episode's gonna be a classic.
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Like, it will not be in vain.
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When you see what we do with it, you'll be like: "I'm glad we did." . Selena: I trust you!
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Benny: I think it'll be great.
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Selena: <i>Will you answer the damn question?
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