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HEY, what's going on everybody?
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From First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Sabrina Carpenter.
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She's a pop music force, the ripple effect of her 2022 breakout still reverberating, but the dawn of a new era begins.
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The latest singles are Please Please Please and the chart-topping Espresso as well as the announcement of a brand new album.
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It's called Short and Sweet and it's set to drop on August 23rd.
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Sabrina Carpenter, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me.
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What's your mindset like going into this?
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Are you someone who appreciates a spicy meal?
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Uh appreciates is the wrong word.
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Um they always just kind of like happen to me and then I deal with it.
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Um but I I I was telling you earlier I really like what it does for my sinuses.
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So I'm really excited for them to be open.
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Like super open, you know?
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Maybe I'll come out a changed woman.
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I think everything's a trick, so I'm just scared.
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I'm just like I don't actually know you. We just met, Sean. Okay. Okay.
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And these are chicken, right? Mhm. That one's lovely. It's really good.
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So it's interesting to me that one of your biggest songs, Nonsense, almost didn't make the last album.
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Is there a lesson to be learned there and if so, how might it have influenced or shaped your approach to making a track list this time around?
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It made me want to trust my my personal favorites a little bit more.
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I think like when you're making a record over time, you want to play it for your best friends, you want to play it for your family, and then you start to get in your head a little bit on everyone's favorites.
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And I think the lesson I learned with Nonsense was that this song was so kindred with my personality, and I started to get in my head on like what fits a record versus what fits like Sabrina or myself as an artist.
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And um that taught me so many lessons moving forward making the next record.
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I think now I just whatever feels the most honest and connects to me the most, I feel like will connect with other people.
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Give the wings love, they'll love you back. I don't know. Okay, 1 2 3. So good. Not blasting us out yet. No. There we go.
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like I don't want to get cocky. Keep it coming. Keep it coming. No, um that's lovely. I love that one.
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You know, a lot of times comedians, they'll obsess about uh linguistic specificity, you know?
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And I'm wondering if there's a corollary for songwriters.
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Like, how much of honing a song is just playing with a particular word until the lyric lands just right?
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That's such a good question.
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I think sometimes I really do go into it with such a specific you know, word or phrase that I love, and I do kind of obsess over it until I can find the right place for it, whether it's in that song or a completely different song.
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I'm not a comedian, so I don't know what they do.
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Um and you know, all I know is that sometimes comedians have lines that fall flat and just get booed, and that's how I feel sometimes as a songwriter.
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Sometimes you have lines in songs that fall flat and get booed, and sometimes you have, you know, the best joke of the night. So, yeah.
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Sometimes you spin it, and that's why you got to take the shots, you know, Sabrina?
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Yeah, I'm not a sports girl, but I think I know what you just said.
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I think I know what you just said.
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Do you have a lot of friends?
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Like I'm just I guess I asked the question because I'm like if you if you have friends and you feel like you have good friends then I trust you and we're good.
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Yeah, listen, say what you will about me, but like I'm a dog. You know what I mean?
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Like the same six best friends I have now are the same six best friends I had when I was eight years old.
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what I want to do to have a long relationship.
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Cuz if you have long relationships then I'm fine.
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But if you're like, "Yeah, like I kind of switched friend groups every other month."
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No, no, they can say what they will about me, but I am a ride or die.
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I'm in the foxhole with you. then let's do it.
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So I noticed that you'll often times take a break from your live show to talk one-on-one with a fan who's sitting in the front row, which can lead to everything from, you know, you fielding general life advice to impromptu marriage proposals in the crowd. Uh-huh.
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What's the most over your head you've ever felt during one of those one-on-one therapy conversations in the middle of a concert?
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Someone told me their dad left.
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This is not funny, by the way.
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Like exactly, this is how I felt in that moment. It was through it. Yeah.
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You know, you have your people recording being like, "Oh, so she makes light of of people's dads leave."
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It's like, "No, oh my gosh, you know." But it's a show.
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Are we supposed to entertain and banter?
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And usually the person has a good sense of humor if they're telling me that their dad left in front of a crowd of a couple thousand people.
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So I I just was I was taken aback.
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And then somehow it turned into like a really beautiful conversation and I was able to like segue into my next song.
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Um because I like to take people out of the show for a second.
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It just makes it feel a little bit more like a slumber party or something.
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My palate is being opened.
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My my my tongue my senses are starting to bubble.
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Making lots of new friends over here. nothing crazy. Oh, this is Y'alls. Okay.
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Maybe I should have a bigger bite.
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I'm being a little bit Right? Look at them. Okay. Mhm. These are really good. So far. Okay. Thank you.
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Um But this one has kind of a smokiness to it. Los Calientes. Mhm. Yes. I like that.
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Do you do anything unique or unconventional to protect your voice?
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Like I always wonder if singers approach it kind of like a skin care routine. I actually do. I do a lot of steaming.
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I do a lot of, you know, obviously vocal warm-ups, but I think there's just a lot of different methods and like random like herbal honeys that people wouldn't expect.
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Yeah, that that keep it really healthy and cuz when you're constantly just like every night, it's like it's crazy to be able to maintain that for a very long period of time without getting hoarse, you know?
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hoarse I hate that I hate that that word is what it's used for, but that's what it is.
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It kind of sounds like what it is, you know?
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It's like dishwasher, you know?
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hoarse That's actually such a good point.
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Yeah, what else would you call a dishwasher? They they nailed it. Exactly. They crushed it.
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Bull's eye right off the right off the bat. Yeah, I know.
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That should be the rest of the interview.
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Let's just talk about words that that sound like what they should.
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Hot sauce is another one.
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That sounds like what it should.
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It is what it is, you know? Yeah.
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And on that topic Or like or like death trap. Okay.
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Meow's Revenge here in this last box. Cat Meow's Revenge. I love cats.
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Do people like get in the comments and like judge like her bites weren't big enough?
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Yeah, well, and there's some of them that are like that.
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over the years I'm looking at you now.
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I'm just But But you're you're you're giving a good commitment to each one.
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You don't have to worry about that at all.
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And I will say this is the first one that kind of takes a little bit of a jump. I just felt the shift.
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I felt the shift, but I'm not I'm not scared. You got this. You got this.
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Yeah, and maybe that's a Taurus thing. We're a little stubborn. Are you stubborn? Yeah, I think so.
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Sometimes I look at that stuff and I'm like, yeah, that kind of that is me. That is me.
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And then some of them I'm like, you know, It's a bit far-fetched. Yeah, I agree with that.
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So, I know that you're a lifelong Beatles fan. Yes, I am.
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Yesterday Across the Universe is one of your favorite movies.
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The White Album is one of your favorite records.
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Meeting Paul McCartney one of your career highlights.
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So, what I want to do here is play a little game where I'll give you a Beatles fact, okay?
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And you tell me if it's truth or nonsense.
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this is going to be wild. Okay, let's do it.
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First up, the origin story from yesterday came from Paul McCartney waking up one morning and humming a melody about breakfast, repeating, "Scrambled eggs, baby I love scrambled eggs."
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So, he wouldn't forget the tune.
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Um I know that part of this is correct because it happened to him in a dream.
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And I know that he wrote the song in a dream.
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I didn't know about the scrambled eggs bit. But, is that true? You're going with truth. You know your lore.
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You know your lore so you're going to go with truth. All right, up next.
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The Beatles long mop hair was so controversial that in 1963, they ran a newspaper ad that read, "Best wishes to all the starving hairdressers and their families."
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Best wishes to all the starving hairdressers and um feels a little current. I'm going to say no. You are correct. That is nonsense.
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It was actually the Rolling Stones who did that.
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Look at you, two for two.
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Yeah, you know, you just got to trust yourself.
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On Bohemian Rhapsody, Freddie Mercury plays the very same century-old Bechstein grand piano that Paul McCartney used when the Beatles recorded Hey Jude 7 years prior. I'm going to say yes.
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Right, it's like so specific that it has to be true. Yeah.
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And Freddy like knows his [ __ ] Like, you know what I mean?
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I feel like he would he would like that.
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You're piecing together context clues here in a way that you are now three for three, Sabrina. you. One more for you.
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I will see if you can run the table.
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At one point, the relationship between Paul and George got so fraught that after the breakup, when Paul was on stage, he would incessantly challenge George to come meet him on stage so the two could duel.
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Okay, so this one I feel like I go both ways because they are that's such playful banter, those boys.
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So, I want to say I want to say yes.
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It was actually David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar.
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That would be the So, that was not what I was going to say.
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Um the color of this is making me um fearful. Good place to be. Okay. Habanero, sherry, koji. Mhm. Yeah. No. No. No, that one's fine. Yeah. And this is Yeah.
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Have you just Has anyone ever projectile in front of you? Never in front of me. Believe it or not. Uh why? Do you think you might? No, no.
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I just want to make sure that I'm setting a standard. Yeah. Um An expectation. It's all right.
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If you got to let it go, the struggle is part of the spectacle.
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What would I like to drink? Um let's do this one.
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to hit this milkshake that you brought.
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Yeah, actually milk tastes so bad. Bro. Chocolate milkshake. That's where it's at. Yeah, kind of clutch. There you go. Okay. That was fine.
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It definitely affects you. Yeah. But they should. That's the point. That's the show. You got to be moved. Exactly.
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It throws you off your game. You Right. Don't trust anyone. Don't push on.
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That's what you got to lean into. Yeah.
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There's a long history, a great tradition of misheard lyrics and pop smashes. Totally.
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Is there any sort of creative strategy to the difficult to decipher but ultra catchy vocal performance on a song like Espresso?
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I I do like to pay attention to if people can understand lyrics because so much of what I like is, you know, the punchline.
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And if people don't know the punchline, it's like waste waste waste of 30 seconds.
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Um and I'm learning as I go.
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I don't think Sorry, that one came back to haunt me.
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Yeah, I don't think I don't think I have it all figured out, but that's like how I feel about me Espresso.
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I've heard a lot of people that were like, "She should have said that's that blonde Espresso, duh."
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Like and I'm like, "Well, yes.
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That is another song, I think, as well that that deserves its spot in the world, but this one for me was like, you know, me Espresso just felt like the right thing to say and and it rhymes with the line before it and just all the reasons and I just think it's so funny.
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Like maybe everyone's right.
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HOW ARE YOU WITH RED FLAGS? LIKE DO YOU SEE THEM? NO. That's a red flag. Yeah.
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So, that's a self-evident red flag. Hmm.
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Really want to eat more chicken. Okay.
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This does have a build on it. Yeah.
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And you're probably starting to feel that now.
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Wow, that one's so exciting. Oh my gosh. Coming alive. Sinuses loosening up. Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah.
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So, you began uploading covers the internet at 9 years old a tradition that you continued to this day.
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You know, often times in your concert reserving some of your set list to pay tribute girl by the way. So, Let it fly.
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You got a long long leash on this show.
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We got We got Kleenex over there.
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Oh, oh I didn't see the tissues.
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We have lots of things going on over there. All for you. All for you. Keep going. What were you saying?
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Does anything come to mind when you think about a popular song that is low-key like the hardest to cover live?
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I really like to incorporate covers because I started covering other This one is really playing with me, Shawn. I know. I'm with you.
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This one is really messing with me.
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Um It's like my tongue now is trying to like revert back into my throat. I know. Yeah.
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A lot of things happening over here. Yeah. Yeah. It's a red flag. That one's a red flag. Big red flag.
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Um like songs with a big range.
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Like sometimes that's the point because I like to challenge myself as much as I can and I like a different element to the show where I can sing it a little bit more. How we feeling?
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Is like the sky's falling?
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was [ __ ] I don't know what I just told you.
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Like that's how I'm feeling right now.
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I was like, what did I just say?
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It sounded like you nailed the dismount to me to be honest with you.
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So, what do you think we should do?
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Should we like Do you want to take a break?
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Do you want to slow it down? Mhm.
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Do you want to just We got dive right in? We got to do it, right? We got to do it. Is it this one? It's that one. Okay.
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It is so nice to meet you. Bro. No. Whoa. Yeah. Don't ask me a question. I know. I'll just let it cook. I'll just let it cook. Sit back.
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Nothing worse than what you're going through what you're going through.
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And here's this bald guy winding it up with a context-heavy question that he's going to land No, oh my gosh, that was so crazy. You just want to scream.
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Okay, I do remember one time when I ate something so hot that I just started crying on the ground.
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I don't think I'm going to do that. But, you know what? I'll be ready.
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All right, I'll keep my head on a swivel. Okay. Okay, you know what?
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Yeah, I'm going for the milkshake. It's still there. IT'S STILL THERE. IT'S STILL THERE.
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OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, oh my god.
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I know, it'll kind of not go away. Mhm.
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This is sort of like who we are and what we've become at this point in the show. I think I'm fine. Mhm. I think it's all mental. You're right. You've got this. SO JUST HOT CHEETOS.
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OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, IT'S REALLY, REALLY HOT. Oh my god.
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And then just be careful around the eyes, you know, you're getting a little close there.
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It's my tongue that's Yeah. Right.
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Everything is it why is it 5 minutes in though?
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It's only been 30 seconds.
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You just caught Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
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You're just caught in a time loop, in a spice time loop.
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Do you do this to yourself willingly?
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Has anyone ever sued you? But, why?
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You getting an idea or something?
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No, I'm just YOU SIGNED A WAIVER.
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THAT'S IRONCLAD, ALL RIGHT? SABRINA? Oh my god. Oh my gosh. No, I'm just curious.
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Um You know what's crazy? Yeah.
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This milkshake has really saved me. It me, too.
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By the way, you know, not everybody brings milkshakes, Sabrina.
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It's always nice when someone does though.
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Because this is it like leaves you for a second and then it's like ready again. It comes right back. It comes right back. Comes right back.
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Now, what would be crazy is you if if you were going to tell me to eat another one right now. The worst is over. Famous last words. Cheers. Cheers. Okay. Wait. All right.
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I'd like to applaud whoever made the wings. They're lovely.
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That last one was was like the saddest thing that's ever happened to me.
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Um but we made it through.
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And honestly, I haven't been as snotty as I thought I was going to be. Yeah, you're good. Yeah. You're good. Right? Exactly. I'm shaking. Um yeah, we're good. We're good.
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Actually, this one's kind of fine.
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Where does headlining the Bethlehem Musikfest fall on your list of career accomplishments?
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That's so sweet of you to ask.
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That was like my first like maybe I'm going to be successful.
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Like that was truly cuz I think anywhere where you grow up and you have like the biggest music festival in your town like, you know, that was such a part of my childhood going every year that when I got to headline, I was like, this is one of my biggest dreams.
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And that has only turned into like so many of the cool things that I've always wanted to do that, you know, even the show.
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Like it's really just, you know, it's such a it's such a gift to like get to watch things and then find yourself getting to do them and you can just kind of like look back and know that like all the all the like tour bus nights where, you know, the hot water goes out and you don't have hot water.
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It's like those things are building character and prepare you for those moments.
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I'm a big believer in timing, so love music fest though. Big fan. All right, Sabrina. Is this one like spicy? In solidarity? In solidarity. Yeah. Okay, wait.
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It's just not coming out. It's like ketchup. Oh, there you go. Oh.
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I didn't like that sound. Someone went Oh. Okay.
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That means you did it right.
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So, before I do this, um like is tomorrow going to be hard for me?
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Does it Does it have like a long-lasting effect?
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I'm just trying to gauge Yeah.
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So, what you're feeling right now in the next 15 to 20 minutes will just be a happy memory, okay? Okay.
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You'll be like, I could I could do that again.
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You know, you'll forget the pain that you went through. Okay.
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Tomorrow, I'm not making any promises, you know, like Yeah. what happens.
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Well, we're not going to see each other tomorrow, so you won't have to worry about that.
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I don't have to worry about it. Okay, let's do it. here we go.
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I took a big bow on that one. I saw that. Yeah. Going out with a bang.
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As we've learned today, you're a woman of many talents, not the least of which when it comes to throwing down on some hot wings, all right, Sabrina?
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But to close things out, I want to put a spotlight on a hidden one.
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You know, you once said that drawing is one of your favorite therapeutic activities. Yeah.
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I realize that this is a big ask under the circumstances, but I actually do have a sketch pad Aw. over here.
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Are you trying to distract me? Oh.
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some pencils, we have some pens.
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We're wondering if it wouldn't be too much trouble, maybe you could give us like a doodle or sketch inspired by your experience with the Wings of Death today. Mhm. Okay. Let's do it.
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That one's had a little kickback. Yeah.
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A little kickback on that one. Okay, wait.
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I kind of want the pencil, actually. Wow.
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I'm trying to figure out the shape of your head. It's a very clean oval. Okay.
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Mine's more of like a heart. So, I've been told. All right.
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Okay, my lips are actually like Are they bigger?
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You got a nice plump upper lip, plump. Yeah, okay. Okay.
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What color are your eyes? A kind of a green. Green? Oh my god.
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Guys, I just like to All right, we're good. We're good.
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All right, I think it's good. The reveal. Incredible. Hang it in the Louvre.
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Sabrina Carpenter taking on the wings of death, living to tell the tale.
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Now, there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
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This camera, this camera, this camera, let the people know what you have going on in your life.
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I'm a singer and and um my new album is coming out.
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It's called Short and Sweet.
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Notice I didn't call it Short and Spicy because I like sweet things better.
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Um so, please go listen and then thank you, Shawn, for having me so much. Love you guys all.
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And make sure to check my website because I don't know what I just said.
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Um yeah, I I I have a website, right?
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She's a unicorn in her underwear. WWW. LOVEYOU. WOAH.
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THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS, by the way.
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Do you want some ice cream?
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Yeah, oh my god, wait, what? Aw.
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Whenever you most need ice cream on this show, we make it appear.
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they Could that have happened sooner or no? Yeah.
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I would have been really pissed if I left and I didn't almost cry or want to like jump off a cliff.
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So, I think this was exactly what I hoped for. And more.
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Um but I I'm thinking about a lot of people differently now.
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Like other past, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Makes me Makes me wonder what's GOING ON PSYCHOLOGICALLY.
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