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Intuition for me is something after I get involved in the subject, then I actually pay attention to it.
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The last time my intuition really gobsmacked me was May of 24 when the aurora came over Puerto Rico and I was like this is not good.
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Then at the same time the aurora also showed up at 12 south latitude in Brazil and I was like this is not supposed to happen. >> What does it mean?
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>> Well it means that the magnetic field of the planet is weaker.
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But here's the real issue.
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We know about the South Atlantic anomaly, but we also know that it's been at bay for most of your life, most of my life.
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It's not been an issue that, you know, I've had to deal with in my work, but it's also not something that we really talk about in like the the daily geopolitics of the planet.
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But when you see that, it's like one of those, you know, sigma 6 moments and your intuition tells you, I need to go and do something.
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And believe it or not, that started a big path for me two years ago where I went to the North Pole, I went to the South Pole, I went all the way and circumnavigated South America to do measurements.
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In fact, part of the reason I'm here this time is to do the same thing with the Pacific Ocean up here to see if my thesis is kind of playing out.
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So again, I would say this trip to see you again is probably a little bit intuition because I have a sense that um >> where we are today in 26, >> I think maybe when you're 70 and I'm 70, we may be in a different place.
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>> And I think it's important uh for people to know, you know, what potentially it means so that they're ready and they're prepared.
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>> And tell me what potentially does it mean?
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Not to get too, you know, hazy shade of winter, but the Earth's dynamo has been stable for about 540 million years.
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That takes us all the way back to the Cambrian explosion.
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That's when complex life shows up on the planet.
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>> How how do we know it's been pretty consistent?
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>> Uh well, we know it from magnetic hysteresus of the rocks.
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So in other words, magnetism leaves a time stamp on all atoms, but not only biotic ones, but also abiotic ones.
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And you know from being friends with me, I'm very interested in the magnetic hysteresus on biotic atoms, you know, especially in us and mitochondria.
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But it turns out the stuff on the planet turns out to be really important for my work and the future work because it has implications.
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We've always thought in quantum biology that the three-legged stool you always hear me talk about lightwater magnetism >> that it's always stable.
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Magnetism has always been stable.
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Turns out that's not true.
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The the best event that I do know you know about is is the last trap event which is when the went, you know, missing in action.
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And there's been other ones that's happened, the younger dryers that happened 11,500 years ago.
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But the things that we get from centralized science like geology is that oh this was a comet or it was this was that and the bottom line is they may be right it's a comet but what you need to understand is when a planet's magnetic field is weak it allows the comets to
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come in or the asteroids to come in from the Kyper belt that's the part of the story that's the halftruth but that's not the part that ever gets published in the textbooks and if you remember our discussion about textbooks and Eddie Chang and all that before the accuracy isn't as great. And it turns out the
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And it turns out the natural sciences like geology have lessons for us if we're open to the message.
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You know, are we paying attention to the the noise or are we paying attention to the signal?
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And I would say to you probably the last two years I've been much more paying attention to the signal of magnetism specifically for biology, but also for life.
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um you know to to give you an example that I think would surprise you because you and I are pretty much the same age.
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We grew up in the same place.
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Um you remember when you were a little boy that Florida was the seed of the sunshine shade and oranges.
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>> Yeah, >> oranges are extinct. >> How can it be?
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>> Uh it's tied to this magnetic story.
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And it turns out remember the things that make oranges are chloroplast.
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Chloroplast and mitochondria are kind of like brothers from another mother.
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They came through end endois.
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So when you see it take out oranges in a place.
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What's the story in the textbook?
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Oh, a little bug came in and wiped them out.
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Very similar to the same story we hear about wine, you know, in the 1850s and 1860s with philosopher.
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And you know that California has a time stamp tied to that.
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The interesting thing though, there's plants on the planet that lived in magnetically inclined places and did not get taken out by that fungus.
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Those vines are still here, but it turns out our oranges in Florida, unfortunate, are liked in Neanderthal that they've been taken out.
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And I think it's the duty of someone like me, quantum biologist, to explain to people how something like that's possible.
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something like that's possible. like how can that happen in Florida and why isn't this happening say in Japan or why isn't it happening somewhere else and it turns out the magnetic flux meaning the oasis is a big issue and because it's a big
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issue and it's now varied like since 2012 we've lost 10% of the magnetic field on earth that is doesn't sound like a lot >> do we know why >> no I think and I don't think we're ever going to know why at least in your lifime time in my lifetime. >> Um, but this is what I do want to say so
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>> Um, but this is what I do want to say so I'm clear. This is a natural cycle.
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>> It's not something >> we didn't do anything. >> No, it's not.
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We're not We're going to get blamed for it, you know, through climate change, >> but that's not really what's going on.
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The real big issue is the things that we know in the past.
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For example, last chance we lost 90% of the field, but it was a short period of time.
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We don't consider that extinction event unless you're a hudded like the Neanderthalss.
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So for them it was bad news.
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Younger dry as we lost the giant slots that you and I saw in the Museum of Natural History in New York when we grew up you know in the woolly mammoth.
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People know that story but it wasn't considered like an extinction event like the asteroid was or the peran extinction where you know 96% of things died.
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But what we do need to know is that from December 2012 to now, many of the things that you and I have talked about privately, >> yeah, >> and publicly that we blame or ascribe blame to this turns out that may be a player, but this magnetic thing is a bigger deal than everybody wants to know.
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And it's kind of like the base case, the cornerstone that has led to some of the things that we've all experienced probably in the last 5 to 10 years.
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But we ascribe a lot of the blame to something else.
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>> In the hypothetical, if the oranges have gone extinct in Florida, does that tell you over time it probably won't be a habitable place for humans? >> Yeah.
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Well, that's you just hit on the the very interesting part of the story.
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Now, you're going to find out why I really got on those cruise ships.
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So, I asked the same question, and you know me, I'm pretty curious.
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Yeah, >> when we lose oranges, the first thing that it means to me is that the land, meaning the east coast of the United States, is beginning to desertify, turn in to the Sahara desert.
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So, what are the things that we should look at that are a correlate to that?
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In other words, this is where my intuition kicks in.
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But the intuition for me is not good enough, Rick.
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You know, I need to have the data.
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>> No, but the intuition starts the process. >> Yes. No question about it.
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>> If not for the intuition, you wouldn't do the research. >> No. Exactly.
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And the first thing I look for is evidence of the thermmo halaline currents. What is that? >> What is that?
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>> That is the density of water that's present in the oceans.
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And what generally happens when oceans begin to die, the density becomes the same all the way top and bottom.
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So think about the the latest current events that you probably have seen on Twitter that first time in 114 years we had no Atlantic hurricanes as of September 21st.
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Right now, you and I are in Malibu.
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I'm here to go out and examine what's going on in Hawaii.
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We've had seven massive hurricanes in Hawaii.
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So, the question should come up for a guy like you, Jack, why did this happen here and why is it happening here?
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Well, it turns out the big thermal hay lines, AOCH is the Atlantic, Smok is the Southern Ocean, we already have data that they're they're turned off. That's not good.
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That's the reason why we're not having hurricanes there. What does that mean?
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It means that because the density of water is not changing that energy in the water cannot be transmitted to the atmosphere to make vortexes. Okay?
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And there's a sheer stabilization.
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Remember the other thing that's happening on the planet, the sun also controls the corololis effect, the weather, the wind, the trade winds, all the things you learned about as a little boy, but no one's ever taught you.
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So this is how a hurricane forms. >> Yeah.
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And when those sheer forces are there, the energy stays in the water.
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The water temperatures are higher.
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So what did my intuition tell me to do to look in Smok and AOCH the last two years when I went is I was looking at buoy markers to see if the temperature was high. Why?
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Because when the temperature goes high, that's a another synonym for loss of magnetism. Okay. >> Why why is that? Why is that a a clue?
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Well, there's a an axiom in science in physics called the cury temperature.
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You know, Madame Cury is the only lady that won two Nobel prizes.
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This is named for her husband, Pierre Cury.
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And he found that anytime cold uh is linked to temperature, you have more magnetic effect the colder something gets.
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So, this is the reason why heavier temperatures are are signs when magnetism begins to leave either a biotic or abiotic system. And this is true.
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You know, if we had metals that we're using, if we cooled them, they would be more magnetic.
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If we heated them, they would not.
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There's a couple of randoms there that break some of those rules, like the rare earth elements that have static magnetic fields.
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But for what we're talking about with the ocean, when the ocean loses that variability, it can transmit the energy to the atmosphere.
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And that is the reason why the vortexes aren't there.
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Immediately going back to your original question, Jack, does the orange problem in Florida link to us?
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Well, you probably have realized the last probably the last two years since you and I have sat down and chatted.
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I started talking a lot about vortexes, CSF vortexes in the brain, the vortex that's in our arteries in our heart, which you clearly have an interest in.
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And it turns out that heart rate variability measures that vortex in our heart.
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And one of the interesting things about it, the healthier we are, the more chaotic the vortex in our heart is. What creates that?
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Four chambers in our heart.
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All the different things in our heart.
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And then there's things in the arterial walls in the aorta that also tie to that.
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Collagen, melanin, all the things you and I have kind of barbed and sparred at both publicly and privately for a period of time.
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But the bottom line is a vortex is a healthy thing for not only oranges but for us.
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And what happens when the thermal haline currents decrease?
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You lose the ability to make a vortex and transmit its energy to the atmosphere.
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And you know when you see a hurricane on Noah's map, it's a giant vortex.
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And what that is, it's dissipating the ocean's energy.
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Well, right now, because the Southern Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean is turned off, um, the only one that's still functioning is the Pacific. And how do we know this?
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You know that you've heard El Nino is supposed to be epic. This is the worst ever.
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You know, all the crazy nonsense that you hear from media.
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Well, this part they got right.
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I took a trip about a year ago and went through and measured all of the the buoys through 12 South all the way to Australia and they were all at that time four to five uh degrees of centigrade higher to this year the same buoys eight.
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So when the El Nino hits Lima Peru and meets the Humboldt current, the Humboldt current comes out of Antarctica.
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So, it's very, very cold water.
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So, the last time I was there, which was about a year ago, one of my members, JD, family owns a chocolate factory down there.
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He always said to me, goes, "Jack, you're the only guy that probably would ever go in the Pacific Ocean with me in Paracus.
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So, this is a place where the Atakama Desert meets the Pacific Ocean.
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Rick, when I tell you you haven't done cold thermogenesis this cold, the water is literally probably 32, 38°."
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And Shantel was with me the day we did this and me and JD went in the water there and there was fishermen in there and they just looked at us like they thought we were crazy.
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But I just thought it was kind of amazing that we're in the middle of the area, the South Atlantic anomaly where this magnetic defect is present and has happened over and over, but there's evidence there that the Pacific side on the left side of the Andes there's still hope.
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So when I went there and I saw the effect a year ago, I said, "Okay, I need to start to pay attention to this."
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That's when on Twitter, I started making some predictions based on my thesis um that we would see more earthquakes and that we would see more volcanic eruptions on the Pacific Rim. Why?
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Because the Earth, much like us or much like oranges, when the environment changes, we need to react to it.
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That's what our mitochondria does.
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That's what a plant's chloroplast does.
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So, what is the earth reaction?
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It's creating more CO2 in the environment because CO2 is a paramagnetic gas.
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It actually acts to cool the earth down.
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We've been told through media that it's the opposite effect.
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Turns out that that's not the truth.
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So that's the reason why I made a counterintuitive prediction that CO2 emissions through volcanoes would happen in the area where the Pacific thermal haline was active. That's happened. Then the volcano thing.
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I mean there was just about 6 weeks ago I put a tweet out and said in the last 30 days we had 1,200 earthquakes.
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The one that you know I think everybody knows the best which is close to where your wife's comes from.
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you know, the ones in Venezuela and Colombia's had a couple, but we've had some big ones everywhere.
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It's been more active now in Bali, Indonesia, but the whole Pacific Rim is up.
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You know, I live in El Salvador.
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We've had probably more earthquakes this year than probably any other year that I lived there.
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the past five years haven't had any volcanic eruptions.
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But 115 miles from me, Guatemala City, we've had three eruptions, major eruptions of the volcanoes there.
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And Costa Rica has been pretty active, too. So, this is good sign.
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The problem is distal to Costa Rica quiescent all the way down to Santiago, which is the reason I'm a little bit concerned about what's going on in the Pacific Ocean.
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So, I decided to come and do something I told you I wasn't going to do.
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Come back to Malibu and go check out the Pacific Ocean cuz I'm interested in a couple of physical findings. >> Yeah.
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>> That I want to confirm before >> you hear the next crazy tweets from Jack Cruz.
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>> In these cycles, if it's going in this direction, do we assume it continues to go in this direction?
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I think we do assume that and I would agree with where you were going.
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Is that a good assumption? >> I Rick, I don't know.
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And I'm going to tell you that this is what concerns me right now.
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>> I did the math like you know me when I sit down and I start to get an idea in my head.
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The stochastics meaning how this fractals out.
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So 2 and a halfx effect on mitochondria.
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So to answer definitively answer your question about oranges, the effect on us is two and a halfx.
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So the last time you and I physically sat down and talked, we were talking about maja diseases.
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We were talking about things at that time.
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I didn't have the data that I'm sharing with you right now.
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If you were to ask me today what you did ask me then, Jack, do you think it's all the other stuff that we talked about before or is the base case what you're talking about now?
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I think the base case was always the big deal.
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The problem was I was not given any of that information through normal channels.
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Meaning the governments were blocking us from that information.
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But I think the reason that information has now come out is because the governments were starting to get so much trouble on the stuff Bobby was talking about.
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And I think you saw how Bobby got shut down when he entered, you know, politics.
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Do I still think the things that you and I talked about two and a half, three years ago are a big deal? They are. >> Yeah. >> But do they form?
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>> They're on top, >> right?
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They're they're the the whipped cream and cherry like in in New Orleans, we have a saying that's called the lap, you know, on top of the Sunday. >> Yeah.
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>> And for some people that lap can be worse than the base case cuz I'll give you an example.
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Uh, I know you're not a big huge football fan, but we just had the NFL play a game.
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Dallas Cowboys and the Ravens, 13 injuries, two guys out for the season.
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Where was the game played?
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They played it in Brazil.
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This is in the geographic center of the weakest part of the magnetic field on Earth.
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So, if you know anything about mitochondria, one could easily predict that this would be something that would happen.
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And what did I do before the game?
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I put a tweet out about that very issue and I linked it to the NFL PA.
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I linked it to the NFL because like if you say this stuff afterwards, everybody's going to say if your if your thesis and your theory is pretty good, it should be able to make predictions that actually come to fruition.
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And that's why when you asked me the question before, and I I wanted to come back to it.
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do losing oranges in Florida, the fact that mosquitoes now showed up in Iceland for the first time ever.
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Should we pay attention to that? >> Obviously, yes.
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>> Well, Rick, but the question you asked me, >> Yeah, >> Jack, are you worried about the trend?
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>> Yes, >> Rick, when these things keep happening, >> Yeah.
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>> I think you know my answer that >> I think we do need to worry about it.
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And I worry may be the wrong word.
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I think what we need to do is be cognizant >> be aware >> and and like talk about it because I don't want anybody to listen to any of the podcasts that I've done, >> you know, and and go out and jump off a building.
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That's not really what the answer is.
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But do I want people to understand?
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Start paying attention to your zip code.
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Are you starting to see people who die that shouldn't die, who do die, and then people who you expect to die who don't die?
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Like, don't assume it's the luck of the draw.
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Are there any places on the planet where the magnetism is stable or increasing? >> Yeah.
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Well, the number one place you could probably guess, El Salvador.
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And the reason why it's where aonic or isagonic lines, these are things that are tied to magnetism.
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But who uses this in our world?
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This would be like if you had a boat and you use a captain and they they want to know where that is.
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But you have to marry it, cross reference it with the latitude lines.
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So, you know, the latitude lines, something you and I have talked about for a long time because we know the power of the sun, but this is the interesting thing, and you're actually the one that I give credit to this in other podcasts.
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You remember when we were here with Hubberman, you said, "Jack, every time I get in the plane in Central America and I come to Malibu, I lose my tan."
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What you didn't know is that melanin is a cyst chemical, meaning it's chyal that ties to its magnetism.
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So when you leave a highly pinned area and go to a highly unpinned area and you know based on what's happened here in Malibu that this is a desert.
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Deserts don't have good magnetism.
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The place you're in Central America does.
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So that is the reason why that's your orange effect and you didn't realize it when you said it to me cuz you said it so flippant.
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The day that we had that discussion, >> we weren't here to talk about Rick.
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We weren't here to talk about magnetism.
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we're trying to get, you know, in front of Uberman to get him to understand some of the basics of quantum biology.
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But it does play a huge role and people do have this experience.
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Um, you know, out here in California, the number one thing that I get asked from patients is like, "Look, UVA lights always here.
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We're the 33rd north latitude.
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Why is it that I can't get my vitamin D above 60?"
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The reason why is cuz the magnetic flux here isn't bad.
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Now, before everybody in California screams at me, you'll be shocked to hear this.
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From 24 to 2026, on a relative basis, the West Coast is better than the East Coast of the United States. Why?
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Your thermal high lines working, theirs isn't. >> Mhm.
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>> So, all the things that people have talked about in California for the last 30, 40 years, Yeah.
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why can't we get our vitamin D's hot?
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Like, you talk to any doc, they're like, "Yeah, it's crazy.
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Nobody has >> nobody has a high enough vitamin D.
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But the sun, I mean, look at today. It's a perfect example. Why is this happening?
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Well, it turns out the unknown variable that nobody's paid attention to is magnetism.
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And magnetism has really fallen off a cliff since December 2012.
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>> Is there a balance where if it goes down somewhere, does that mean it goes up somewhere else or no? >> No.
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And I wish I wish that was the case. >> Yeah.
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The best example of that right now I can give you because this is another thing about intuition that I would share with you because I know you know this the you know that the North Pole has been on this record of running from Canada to Siberia. >> Yes.
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>> So Siberia has gained its magnetic strength the same effect that we have had over 320 million years. >> Wow.
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>> So in 12 years >> it has done 320 million years of movement >> like crazy. But here's the problem.
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Even though the magnetism is really good there, the magnetic field there is vertical, which is not good for us. We want horizontal.
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But what's the other issue? It's Siberia.
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The latitude lines and the agonic lines don't match up.
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Here's the most important thing that I want you to understand because I know you travel a lot and you can pay attention to this.
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The more you hear in the media that the magnetic field moves, right now it's on average about 55 kilometers per year.
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That means the more the agonic lines move.
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That means where that magnetic strength is.
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So the way I like for you to think about it, you know, like when you're doing a workout and you have a rope and you hit the rope and the rope does the oscillation wave. >> Yeah.
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>> That's the agonic line.
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So while it may be good for you right here and right now, and it was in 2026, it may not be true in 2027. >> Yeah.
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>> That doesn't happen when the magnetic field stays pinned. >> I see.
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anywhere else besides El Salvador on the planet that are good.
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>> Bali, Indonesia, like I will tell you the pl the best places right now. >> Yeah.
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>> Um and I'm marrying magnetic field and sun. >> Yes.
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>> Uh Pacific Rim, the Pacific Rim all the way around. This is the crazy part.
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You know that I I've been um a crazy man on social media telling people the sun, the sun, the sun.
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There are now places that are on the Illutian Islands that are better than you staying in Miami, Florida. Wow.
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That's how big the change is.
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And it turns out when magnetism goes away, the DC electric current, all the stuff that Becker talked about, like magnetism is the father of the bio electric currents in the body.
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>> So if the magnetism isn't right, the sun can't you can't get the benefit of the sun. >> You got it. I understand.
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>> And that's the message that I want to share with you.
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And I like when you read all my tweets, say, "Jack, just forget the science.
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Just tell me what I need to know, Rick.
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That's what you need to know." That is the key.
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Using a red light panel is not going to be good enough.
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Using even um you know a grounding sheet or a magnetic o sleep pad not good.
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Is it something you should aspire to?
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Because any little bit helps. Yes.
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But you have to ask yourself this question.
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Are you in for an A, a B, a C, or a D?
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I already know your answer because of some of the things that you've already done.
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The key thing is, you know, that Twitter is a big fish pond and there's a lot of people out there that know they can't pick up and go to Al Salvador.
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They can't pick up and go to Costa Rica.
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They can't pick up and go to, you know, a gyocline in in the med. >> Yeah.
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>> So, the thing is you try to help people understand the real problem for me is well, what happens if that person has three autoimmune conditions already?
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>> Like, is giving them a B, C, or D my doing my job as a doctor?
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You know, and that's a rhetorical question for both you and me, but I think you know what my answer is.
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I I don't want to leave anybody with the halftruth because I'm vehement >> that nature never makes mistakes. >> Yes.
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>> And it's my duty to tell you even if you don't want to hear it.
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You know, I I've used your axiom in the book, you know, that artists create for themselves, not for the audience.
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And I've started to use it on myself and I didn't realize that it really applied to me because even though I'm a pain in the ass for a lot of people, medicine's an art and a science.
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And I think when I tell you my beliefs, what am I doing?
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It's much like the art side of medicine. >> Yes.
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>> That you may not like the message. >> Yeah.
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>> But I have to get that message out.
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Then the audience decides what the deal is.
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They they decide from there.
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But you didn't think that part of your book was going to hit me.
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But it really has hit me the last two years because >> Yeah.
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>> of this big change in magnetism because I didn't think if you and I were in Vegas, I would have lost a million dollars on the the table.
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I didn't think it changed this much. >> Yeah.
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>> And then when we saw the numbers, I was like, "Holy shit."
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When we do things like uh an ice bath, does that help with the magnetism issue?
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>> You just answered the cury.
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>> Some of the things that we can do, >> yeah, >> at least we we can't change the magnetic flux of the planet.
27:51
>> No, >> we can either move to a place where it's better, >> right?
27:54
>> Or we can do things like ice baths.
27:54
What else besides is ice bath the ultimate or there others?
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>> I would tell you ice bath is the ultimate.
28:01
So the next question I thought you were going to ask me, so Jack, I need to do more ice baths.
28:05
The answer is yes, we all do.
28:07
The only people that probably don't who are magnetically pinned and also have the good latitude lines for the sun, then I think it's superfluous.
28:15
Probably the next big hack to think about is the magnetico sleep pad.
28:20
Magnetical sleep pads made out of ceramic materials, but they have rare earth elements in it.
28:25
As I told you before, those are static magnetic fields.
28:29
They help you at night when you sleep. So, I'm a fan of that.
28:31
Um, >> and you get like a 20 uh >> 20 g 20 g. >> Yeah.
28:36
I mean, it's not the best, >> but it's but it's still >> Yeah. >> 8 8 hours.
28:42
>> Well, this is what I would tell you.
28:42
I'm going to bring you back to Becker's book.
28:45
Remember what Becker did?
28:45
He found instead of giving the animals that he cut the limbs off to do all his experiments, he put them on a 2,000 g magnet and put the salamanders to sleep.
28:56
And the crazy thing is Rick in the book he writes this in his experiments he write this and he never goes deeper into it.
29:02
He basically just says we could probably get rid of all anesthetic drugs if we did this.
29:05
But he was so hyperfocused on limb regeneration and the DC current.
29:09
This went by the wayside.
29:11
But it ties back to what you and I are just talking about now because everybody knows whether you're a scientist or not.
29:16
If you sleep better, you tend to heal better.
29:19
Well, sleep is tied to cold thermogenesis in the protocol.
29:24
So, the more of that you do, I'm a fan of that. Magnetico, I'm a fan of.
29:28
This will be the one that surprises you probably the most.
29:30
Back a long time ago when I spent a lot of money um translating the Russian journals, uh I noticed that the Russian space cosminauts were doing things differently than our guys were.
29:41
And one of the big things was BeteCO breathing.
29:44
Um and they even use that in their capsules after they had uh lost three of their cosminauts in 71.
29:51
But the big thing is they started testing out using carbonated water all in the um the eastern block countries.
29:59
They would give it to astronauts on the planet meaning us. >> Yes.
30:05
>> To see if the effect helped before they gave it to the astronauts.
30:09
And believe it or not, using uh bubbly water >> really actually helps because of the CO2.
30:15
CO2. Now the interesting thing that's come out in the last two or three years since you and I have talked a study just came out that shows if you take someone with neurodeeneration and you rebreather them on CO2 you actually improve their clearance of dutarium out of the brain
30:31
you also uh affect their protein misfolding in their brain for the same reason because what what are we learning that anything that we can do to increase our magnetic sense in the mitochondria helps and if you think about it the end point of metabolism is what is CO2 2 in water. So, it makes sense if you're
30:46
So, it makes sense if you're putting back the CO2 that it should help.
30:50
We know that it helps with deterium depleted water, but this is the other part of the equation that we never talked about >> cuz nobody ever really spent a lot of time talking about magnetism because we all believed it was the most stable leg of the stool. >> Yeah.
31:04
>> And it turns out it wasn't. >> Yeah.
31:05
Well, it was until it wasn't. >> Right. Exactly. >> Yeah.
31:09
Did you ever hear something called carbagen?
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There there was a I used to have a tank of something you could breathe that was a combination of oxygen and CO2 but more CO2. >> Yeah.
31:23
>> That it could cross the brain barrier. >> Yeah.
31:25
The blood brain barrier >> and you can get more carbon dioxide into the brain and it was a good thing and it was used to heal people with brain injuries. >> Yeah.
31:33
I mean and it it does work.
31:33
We know it increases the vortex in the CSF.
31:38
It also improves CMR2 which is cerebral metab metabolic rate of oxygen consumption.
31:43
But the big thing is it improves dutarium uh clearance in the brain through that glyolymphatic pathway that you know they found about 5 or 10 years ago.
31:52
But the big one is that it has a massive effect on protein misfolding that we see in neurodeeneration.
31:59
And just so you know, even if you don't have neurodeeneration, the effect of duterrating your water table in your head is everybody has misfolded proteins.
32:07
The key is can you get rid of them? Yeah.
32:10
You know, with your immune system, if the immune system is dialed up, you know, it ceases to be a problem.
32:15
But when that 30 million volt charge on your inner mitochondrial membrane drops, that's where the hits the fan.
32:21
And if that slowly happens, insiduous over time, that's how you can go from being normal to abnormal.
32:28
And people go, "Hey, let's try this new drug, the David Sinclair."
32:31
No, you you cannot fix quantum level problems with biochemical band-aids. You just cannot.
32:40
>> That's an axiom that, you know, unfortunately, I have a lot of arrows in my back about those issues.
32:47
>> Is all carbonated water the same? >> Probably not.
32:49
But at the point that we are right now, 10% down on the magnetic field, >> uh, any is better than none.
32:57
>> Any is better than none.
32:57
And do I believe that if the carbonated water was dutium depleted on top of it? Yeah, that's the winner.
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>> Yeah, but it doesn't we can't get that yet. >> Well, you can.
33:06
All you got to do is buy yourself a soda machine. Dutium depleted water. Make it yourself. >> Oh, yeah.
33:11
How about hydrogen water?
33:14
>> Well, normally I would say yes.
33:14
But I'll tell you why I say no.
33:16
The quantitative analysis that those guys do on their machines, they never control for the amount of proteium, which is light hydrogen and dutarium.
33:23
If they did that one thing, I would say yes to you.
33:26
But they don't and nobody gets told that.
33:31
It's the same thing with the hydrogen pills that you see all the influencers, you know, pedal out there.
33:35
I don't want people to do that because if you buy the halftruth, it may prelude you from doing something to get you to the A level.
33:46
>> Is there a machine that can do that test? Is that test possible?
33:47
The one you just >> I mean, it is possible.
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The problem is it would be not I think financially feasible for the regular person >> I see >> to do.
33:57
Do I think hospitals like tertiary care centers could do this in ICUs like for people who have brain injuries? Absolutely.
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And why is that the case?
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In the old school days like when me and Shantel were running the charity hospital os you know we had canisters uh of oxygen, nitrogen and hydrogen.
34:16
So right now with electrolysis it'd be easy to get a canister of hydrogen make sure that it's mostly proteium which is light hydrogen not dutarium.
34:25
You can do the same thing in water through electrolysis but you probably know like when you go and buy dutarium depleted water and compare it to dani the price of one is 20 bucks and the other one is a dollar.
34:35
That's a that's not approachable. >> Yeah.
34:40
you know, for most of the people that are out there.
34:42
But, you know, if you've got an unlimited source of money and you're trying to stay away from centralized medicine, would this be a good thing for you to sit down with a commercial gas company and say, "Look, I'd like you to make me this version of hydrogen, and then bubble it into your water with CO2, make your own version of this, set it up wherever you go."
35:03
Because you can do this pretty much everywhere.
35:05
the materials to do this kind of mitoch. >> Mhm.
35:14
>> Why is detium depleted water so expensive?
35:17
>> For the reason I just told you.
35:17
You have to use hydrarolysis.
35:19
Think about how many electric currents you have to do to get all this run down.
35:23
I mean, I've been told by the guys who have the factory in Romania that 80% of their cost is tied to the electric bill.
35:35
Now, the followup question for you should be, Jack, if we had a thorium nuclear reactor, could we just put that, pay $10 million to make it, and put it right next to the trailer here?
35:45
Oh, dude, you'd have people coming in here all day long.
35:50
You'd probably make more money from that than you did from producing music.
35:56
>> Is there any place where being grounded is a bad idea?
35:59
>> Yeah, New York City, where we come from. >> Why is that?
36:01
because Con Edison's put all the things under the ground.
36:03
You know, we've got jump conduction from all the stuff on Park Avenue and Fifth Avenue.
36:10
You remember, I don't know if you remember this because you and I have been out in New York for a while, but you know, I still have a little soft part in my heart for the city.
36:15
Do you remember right at 57th and Fifth by the Plaza when 5G went live?
36:20
I don't know, I think it was 2015, the horserawn carriages, you know, they have the metal. >> Yeah.
36:28
>> They had six horses get electrocuted by stepping on the manhole covers.
36:30
So, the best place, and you'll know this for us to ground when we're in the city is on the bedrock in Central Park. Why?
36:41
Nothing's running under that. >> Yeah.
36:43
>> So, that's where I go to do it. >> Yeah.
36:45
>> But like where Strawberry Fields is, Con Edison's got running through there.
36:49
You know, all the baseball fields that we used to play on in the soccer fields, they have power lines that run under there.
36:54
There's gas lines, water lines.
36:56
So, all of those carry both electric and magnetic fields. What does that do?
36:59
That mimics exactly what a weakened dynamo does.
37:04
Like the when you scale the physics down, the effect is exactly the same.
37:09
It causes something called a Marcus inversion on the inner mitochondrial membrane.
37:13
What is that in Rick's terms?
37:15
It's a NASCAR car crash from complex 1 to three.
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Like all the cars are piled up so no electrons can get through.
37:22
If they do get through, it's usually a free radical that makes really nasty stuff and harms us.
37:26
So what the goal of a mitochondriac is to understand that the inner mitochondrial membrane is a seessaw and in the middle of the seessaw is between complex 3 and four that's where the VDR receptor is the vitamin D receptor then on the other side is the ATP that spins UV light makes two things vitamin D which blocks that slows the car crash down and then the ATPA gets blocked by nitric oxide which is made by UVA light. So what does that do?
37:58
If it slows the spin down, then oxygen can't pull all the electrons through the car crash.
38:03
So it makes all that bad stuff.
38:05
So what effectively is happening?
38:07
The distal end of your IMM is designed to slow electron flow down.
38:14
What's a um a drug that you know does this except it knocks everything out? Cyanide.
38:19
Cyanide stops it all but immediately that kills you. >> Yeah.
38:23
We are so sophisticated that the higher power spectrum of visible light which is UVA and UVB does it just enough.
38:32
We have a term for that in science quantized to slow the car crash down.
38:38
And that's the reason why you don't want to use a red light panel because what does a red light panel do when you have a car crash?
38:44
It spins the ATPAS faster.
38:46
Well, if you got a car crash here, do you want any more electrons going through the car crash? No. >> No.
38:54
That's the nuance that the influencers, the MDPhDs, they don't get because they don't understand the physics of the IMM, they were only taught like what Ubber was taught, which is the biochemistry.
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And the biochemistry is just a halftruth.
39:12
>> Tell me about methylene blue.
39:15
>> What do you want to know?
39:15
I think you should tell me about it. >> What does it do?
39:18
>> Since you're the expert in it, >> what does it do?
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does a lot of things but it actually affects that Marcus inversion the car crash.
39:24
So when >> slows it down >> it it depends. It can do both.
39:28
That's the reason why >> I see >> I told you when you sat down with the surgeon at Stanford >> and he told you what he told you. >> Yeah.
39:38
>> I don't have a problem with what he told you. >> Yeah. Yeah.
39:41
>> I had a much bigger problem with Peter told you because he was completely wrong.
39:45
But the bottom line >> came around though.
39:47
Well, I know he told me that that he finally read the the papers on it, but the thing I wanted you to know for your specific N equals 1, it was ideal.
39:57
Even though he didn't want to use it on you, you said, "I'm doing this."
40:02
And you know, the reason why is because my concern was keeping the melanin sheets in your cookia and up here while you're on bypass.
40:09
So for you, I was limiting your Marcus inversion. Why?
40:15
Because when you're on the table having the surgery you had done and you're on bypass, that defines no magnetism. It defines a car crash.
40:22
I know you know that cuz that's why you called me and I said, "Rick, we need to do something that is above and beyond." Yes.
40:34
>> Not something I would recommend that Rick does every single day, but this is the perfect time to do it. >> Yeah.
40:42
and the fact that it worked for you, you know, makes me happy.
40:45
But what's the correlate of that for me?
40:50
Now, every, you know, idiot on Twitter thinks that they should be using methylene blue.
40:54
And remember what I told you that the decentralized clinician has to understand this bioysics before you use it.
41:01
And I've given examples in blogs like how did I figure out the main use of methylene blue is that little girl that had her head crashed in that you know I operate on all night to Metallica.
41:15
My my staff doctor wanted me to let her die.
41:17
And I'm like I'm not going to do that.
41:19
I'm going to do some things that I know you didn't teach me but I know are going to work cuz I understand bioysics. >> And she did. She lived.
41:28
>> She graduated college.
41:31
But I don't want anybody in the audience who listens to either her story or your story think that that story is their story. >> Yes.
41:37
>> Like you have to have a physician that truly understands it.
41:40
And I will tell you in centralized medicine the two branches of doctors who know about it the best are cardiovascular surgeons and neurosurgeons because we're dealing with acute Marcus inversion events all the time. >> Yes. Yes.
41:57
What are some things you built into your house that are not part of the normal construction that you would get in a typical home?
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>> Well, now I got to throw Rick Rubin under the bus.
42:08
I've been trying to get Rick to El Salvador for a long time so he could see it. >> Yeah.
42:13
>> But I will tell you, one of the Belli's brothers came over to see what I was doing. >> Yeah.
42:18
>> I just built a hotel uh down in Kosol with a restaurant.
42:22
I went in to the volcanoes and took a specific stone that has rare earth elements in it.
42:28
And what I was looking for is two things.
42:32
I live very close to the SAA, but I'm on the right side, meaning on the Pacific side.
42:36
Most people don't know that El Salvador is the only country in Central America that doesn't have a Gulf side.
42:45
So, I went into those volcanoes and got a specific stone and I put it all over the outside and the inside of my house and also my businesses and my clinics.
42:57
What was I trying to do specifically?
43:00
Increase a magnetic acoustic and a magnetic electric effect. Why?
43:04
These are not things that normal people are going to do.
43:08
Very similar to what we talked about with dutium depleted water or your trick with hydrogen.
43:13
I am trying to increase and protect myself from the geo the planetary effects.
43:22
What is the the main effect of a weak magnetic field?
43:27
The vanal and radiation belts come closer to earth over that area.
43:29
Dutyium and tridium come down. They radiate it.
43:34
How did the Mayans, the Peruvians, the Incans, the Toltks, the OMX, how did they protect it? Paramagnetic stones.
43:42
The la that I use on my buildings is all paramagnetic.
43:44
It's built out of paramagnetic atoms that block that.
43:46
So, the interesting thing, Rick, is when you take the la, say you put it on a piece of wood and you put it in the Al Salvador sun down here, the grass grows taller. >> Wow.
44:00
>> So, remember what you asked me before about oranges and about chloroplast.
44:01
So, do you think that's good for people with mitochondria that live inside?
44:06
And how did I learn about this effect?
44:08
This I think you'll dig because it's tied to your world, too.
44:13
There's a ball field that's right outside of Chitzanita that the Mayans built, and that ball field has a magnetic acoustic effect.
44:21
So, if you go on one side of it, and it's probably bigger than an NFL uh field, if you talk into the wall, you can hear it on the other side. Wow. >> Why?
44:31
Because all of the limestone is made with uh rare earth elements.
44:33
The limestone also has these elements impregnated from what?
44:38
The asteroid that hit at that area, which is how I learned about this as a young boy, you know, at the Museum of Natural History.
44:46
And I thought to myself when I physically saw the place for the first time when I was a young man, I'm like, I've got to recapitulate this.
44:55
I never did it because I never had the impetus to do it until this issue happened in in December of 2012.
45:02
And then the magnetic electric effect is humongous for us. Why?
45:08
This ties all to Becker's work, believe it or not.
45:10
It ties to Martin Bard's work and it ties to Michael Leven's work at TUS that we need to increase our bio electricity to stay healthy.
45:20
That 30 million volt charge.
45:22
Well, it turns out the slide that I had in 2014 at Pasadena when Asprey threw me off the stage, it said magnetism is the father of bioelectric currents.
45:36
So, I decided to take the outside the good things of the volcano and put it around everything.
45:41
I even put it on the ground everywhere.
45:44
It would only work in El Salvador everywhere.
45:46
Now remember the big benefit of El Salvador um is that we have young volcanoes.
45:53
They're only 60 to 80 million years old.
45:55
So what's the main magnetic effect?
45:57
The field in in El Salvador is horizontal.
46:00
That is humongous for mitochondrial function.
46:03
So most people don't know this that El Salvador is called the land of volcanoes because it has more volcanoes per cubic uh kilometer than any place on Earth, which is the reason why I picked it.
46:15
The issue is it's got active volcanoes everywhere.
46:20
We have more active volcanoes there than just about any other place on Earth.
46:23
But the key thing is what's the time stamp for those volcanoes.
46:28
Magnetic hysteresus it's in those rocks.
46:30
So I decided I want to put those rocks on my wall on the inside and on the floor like where we ground it becomes really important.
46:37
So I know you're a big afficionado of extraterrestrial stuff and aliens and things like that.
46:44
I want you to think now about all the different stone henches that are around.
46:47
You may be shocked to hear this.
46:49
Do you know that they're all paramagnetic stones? >> Did not know that.
46:52
Never heard that said before. >> Right.
46:54
And you know there's a DOMA in Spain.
46:56
Hopefully someday you go look at it. >> Yeah. >> The DOMA. Same thing with Gobeci.
46:58
All of them are paramagnetic where you could put tens of hundreds of thousands of people under the ground. Why?
47:05
This goes to your point that you made earlier, Jack. We faced this before. We have.
47:09
And the ancients didn't know quantum mechanics.
47:14
They didn't know paramagnetism from their shift from Shyola. But what did they know?
47:17
They saw that plants would grow when they were blocked from something coming out of the sky.
47:26
And what do they decide to do?
47:26
They said, "Well, if that's good for the plant, it may be good for us.
47:30
Why don't we start building stuff like that?"
47:32
So I got the same idea that when I started construction of the hotel about a year ago, I said I am going to find a specific type of volcanic stone that has the most rees in it. And I found it. It's called Laha.
47:49
It's located in two countries, Guatemala and El Salvador.
47:55
And this is the craziest part of the story.
47:56
When Belli's brother sat down with me, he goes, "Let me get this straight.
48:00
you decided to dig into our volcanoes because it had the answer that nobody knew about and said, "We're putting concrete or we're putting all this other up and this stuff is free in the ground."
48:11
I'm like, >> you know, nature nature kind of has a way. >> Nature provides. >> Exactly.
48:16
You know, the thing is, are you open to the message? >> Yeah.
48:19
Amazing that you got that you you intuited the message.
48:23
>> Well, you may say I intuited it, but you know, remember you and I both grew up in New York City.
48:27
The Museum of Natural History is in a pretty amazing place.
48:32
And you know, when those ladies take you around on those tours, when we're kids growing up, some people listen and some people don't. >> Yeah.
48:40
>> And I I have to give those ladies credit because that's where I learned about that stuff.
48:45
>> Tell me about the famous story, your origin story. >> Miniscus. >> Miniscus.
48:49
And then you re you read some papers. >> Mhm.
48:54
>> What did you learn then?
48:54
What was the first thing you learned? >> Leptin. >> Leptin.
48:59
>> Like the reason why I remember leptin was discovered at Rockefeller University in 94.
49:03
That's after I I finished medical school.
49:06
So I never learned about this hormone at all.
49:09
The lady who was the wife of the orthopedic surgeon, she worked for a biotech company out here in California.
49:16
And she goes, "Look, I think I know why this happened to you.
49:18
My husband says, "You're a smart guy.
49:20
I'm gonna send you a book and six papers.
49:23
you know the book monk who sold the sari and then the six papers are all tied to leptin and the leptin milano court and pathway which is the melanin side.
49:30
So what she tried to do for uncle Jack is she tried to get me to realize that big farmer was the evil guy but that's not what Jack got out of the interaction.
49:44
When I read the book by Sharma, I actually said, "Is it possible that what happened in this fable could really happen in life?"
49:52
And Rick, this was like so out of left field for me as a scientist. >> Yeah.
50:00
>> Because none of this is something that um my medical education would have brought me to.
50:07
>> But I was at a point in my life where I've tried everything that was going on in centralized medicine.
50:11
And when I saw it, I said, you know, I'm going to learn more about this leptin. And that's what I did.
50:17
I went back to Vanderbilt's medical library, read as much as you can imagine in 18 months.
50:22
That's when I told you and you know, three years ago that I realized that 99.
50:28
5% of everything I was taught was wrong because of those six papers in the book. >> Yeah.
50:36
>> But I needed confirmation that was the case.
50:38
the mark of a good scientist not to believe your own So what did I do?
50:43
I did the first test on myself. Like who goes first? Me.
50:45
So I did it and it worked. Then I did on my son.
50:49
Then I did it on my nephew who was going into the Navy Seals and it worked on him.
50:53
And then I started doing it on patients and my surgery schedule started to change.
50:58
And there was doctors in my hospital in Nashville.
51:01
One specific Don Laz who's a gastronurologist, not even a neurosurgeon.
51:07
He said, 'Jack, you realize if you publish this in a paper that they're going to absolutely burn you to the stake. And I said, 'Yeah.
51:15
He goes, >> bad for business.
51:19
>> Well, not only bad for business, but it probably would be bad for Jack.
51:21
Uh, I mean, you saw what they did to Mary Tally Bowen, so you can only imagine this predates her. This is 2005, 2008.
51:32
So, what did I did decide to do?
51:32
I wrote the quilt document, put it on the internet for free.
51:36
That's when you and I got entangled.
51:38
You started reading some of my stuff and you're like, "This guy is out of left field.
51:42
He's talking about stuff nobody else is talking about."
51:44
And then what did I started doing?
51:46
I started writing blogs on a WordPress site.
51:48
It didn't hit because I think I started with the physics and I didn't start where you were, you know, like which at that time was, you know, the food gurus and the paleo guys and all that.
52:00
And I changed my tune and then I did something pretty radical.
52:06
I went to the paleo community and dropped the hammer on them and then I went and did a TED talk and that's what really lit the world on fire.
52:17
And then right after that I was invited by a bunch of food gurus to a low carb cruise and then someone set up a parody account on Twitter and said that I had a bomb and uh on the cruise ship and the FBI came down and actually threw me off the cruise ship. >> Wow.
52:34
Well, it was turns out to be good for me because through that settlement, that's actually how I bought my first Bitcoin. >> Wow.
52:40
So, you got swatted essentially.
52:42
>> Well, I I would say you know what's happened through co I mean, think about what we're talking about.
52:47
This is before me and you got entangled.
52:49
Like that's the real genesis story.
52:51
And when a centralized doctor starts to post about decentralized medicine and science and you know who you're threatening, you're threatening the big paradigm, you know, all the way back to the flection report. Why?
53:05
Because as you said, if Jack can get me to do cold baths here in Malibu and I don't have to do some of the drugs that the doctors then wanted me to do, well, Rick, remember the design is for you to be a customer for them for the rest of your life.
53:21
My goal is for Rick to learn about the doctor in his head and start paying attention to him a little bit more. >> Yeah.
53:29
After leptin, what was the next thing you noticed that was like the next big piece?
53:34
I want to walk through all of them. >> Yeah. Water and dutyium.
53:38
>> Yeah, >> they were linked.
53:38
That was the bioysics of water.
53:41
The two guys that influenced me more than anyone else.
53:43
Guy named Proparta and Delouchce.
53:45
Both of them are dead now.
53:48
>> The guy that you know the most about is Pollock.
53:49
Pollock talks about the easy, but easy is kind of I I don't want to say pseudocience.
53:54
It's not >> but he's been so hammered by the centralized guys.
54:00
>> Delus and Papar both physicists.
54:00
he calls the easy coherent domains.
54:03
This is like pools of electrons and that was probably the best quantum coherent way of learning about it.
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Then a researcher in UK who I know you've heard of Maywan Hoe.
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She was cut from the same cloth as Gilbert Ling was.
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>> She used a lot of difficult language to try to describe physics.
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The language that she used was biochemistry which is a lot of the reason why most people didn't understand her. >> But she was fabulous.
54:34
And then it all ended for me.
54:37
Most people I know who are listening to this want me to say Pollock, but it wasn't Pollock for me.
54:43
It was a guy named um Martin.
54:43
God, I'm blanking on his name, but he was in the UK.
54:48
I want to say Pulk, maybe that was his name.
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Anyway, he still has a a website to this day on water all about the physics.
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And I'm going to tell you, I I memorized everything on this guy's website.
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And I realized right away that there was a big story in water and it was tied to dutarium.
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It was tied to the spectra of what light and water did together.
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When Jerry Pollock came out in 2014, I want people to respect Pollock's work.
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I really do >> because Pollock's experiments are really important because he took bulk water, put an extra hydrophilic substance, and showed the easy grows.
55:29
What do I have to tell you upset me the most about Pollock?
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Because I don't think you and I have ever talked about this.
55:35
I went to a medical school in 2014 right after the Aspbury event and Pollock was there.
55:39
I invited Jerry to come speak to the medical students and I told them Jerry's work is incredibly important but Jerry needs to redo every single experiment he ever did and do it with dutium depleted water. Why?
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Because my belief is that the results are going to be even bigger. >> I see.
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>> So Jerry came after me and said, "Well, go find me the money."
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And you know, that probably wasn't a good response for me cuz I look at >> if you're a scientist, come hell or high water, >> you find the money to do it.
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And this doesn't cost a lot of money to do.
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>> So, I thought that was kind of a answer, which is kind of why him and I have been cool to each other, >> but to his credit, >> two years ago, he did it.
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And everything that I told him in 14 turned out to be true about duty and depleted water and its interaction with light.
56:32
And I will tell you, do I believe that there's more fat on the bone or more juice squeezed in the grape?
56:40
I had hopes Nicole Shanahan was going to fund Alexis Cowan her lab to do some of these studies.
56:48
So far, that hasn't come to fruition. Why?
56:54
Because I think some of the things that you need and I need because we're the old mammals that we need more light and we need pure water made from CCO so that you can keep doing music and I can keep doing my thing and that we can keep coming together every so often and do these things. >> Yeah.
57:12
>> To talk to the, you know, the people out there because ultimately I want to make sure that the Library of Alexandria, my head, gets into some of these young kids.
57:21
I mean, that's why I give you kudos for keep inviting me out here to talk about this stuff because that's what I'm passionate about.
57:27
I want people to get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
57:31
I'm not interested in the after truth. >> Yeah.
57:34
I've heard interviews with professors, young professors who grew up on your work and they're changing everything.
57:42
So, the fact that you have disciples in the mainstream changing the world is a good sign.
57:47
Well, obviously you know that when you're a disruptor or a divergent, you want it to happen sooner than later.
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And I'm not saying this for probably your benefit or my benefit, but I look at it like this.
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When the world is changing as it is right now, meaning 10% change, Rick, we don't have time to dick around here. >> Yeah.
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>> Like, we need to get this work done.
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We've got to stop studying the superfluous or as you like to say, cut the noise out of the music.
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Let's go with the signal. >> Yeah. The essence. Get to the essence.
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>> And that's the exact same thing.
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That's why I don't think that people realize how you and I are like brothers from another mother.
58:29
>> The message really is the same.
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You tell the musician the same thing I'm trying to tell the PhDs and the MDs.
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That's why when you invited me to come out here to talk to Yubberman, I had hopes that he was going to resonate that message to the medical students.
58:43
And then who knows there may be some kid in Stanford who's the new Becker that takes the football from Pequard and Becker and really moves it.
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Doesn't do the that these guys are doing now.
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Goes even further and really goes deep into the biohysics or takes the ball where Jerry's left it.
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Picks it up and goes further.
59:05
Ultimately, I look at that story kind of like this tree that you put behind us in today's video.
59:12
Rick Rubin didn't plant that tree, old tree.
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Somebody else did, but Rick and I are getting the benefit of it right now.
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And I think the interactions that you and I have had over the past 15, 20 years, I hope from that collision that something good like this tree will come from that. >> Yeah.
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>> You know, and in irony or maybe semantics, isn't that the same as the question you asked me about the oranges? like in another way.
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It's another facet in the diamond to think about.
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One that I haven't thought about until I just mentioned to you right now. >> Yeah.
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>> But I think anything that we can do to move the football to move humanity, push it the way we want to do it.
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Just like you said, the artist and you has to create.
1:00:04
Maybe some people don't see what Rick sees.
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They don't see what Jack sees, >> but we have to do what we have to do.
1:00:09
We are compelled to do what we do and we don't really give two shits what anybody else thinks. I don't. I know you don't.
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>> And I think that's why we kind of have a friendship because we both see that in each other. >> Yeah.
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>> And you know, you know, Uburn was the one that mentioned this to both of us and we both chuckled.
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I think the fact that we're both from New York actually plays a role here in some way.
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I think that environment that we grew up in in some way sculpted >> that idea in us.
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Maybe that's the intuition.
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Where did you find the map to see where the magnetic field is strong and weak?
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>> Well, if I told you the truth, I'd probably get in trouble.
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Let's just say I have friends inside the government. >> Okay.
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>> So, the government has this information, but it's not public. >> No.
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>> Well, let's put it this way.
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What you're seeing is the old stuff.
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I see >> what we need is the minute-to-minute changes.
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Like we need to know what's happening off the coast of Tasmania and and um Siberia where magnetic north and south are we need to know the inclination declination.
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Like for example, I can tell you I looked at it before I came here.
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The magnetic uh declination of Malibu right now -13. Like it's off the chain. >> Wow. >> New York City -14. Wow.
1:01:35
So when you see that both sides are bad.
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The Agonic line right now is running from Minnesota straight down to about Lake Charles, Louisiana.
1:01:47
The problem is the lines like if you go if I walk from here to your silver trailer right there, which is what you say maybe 40 yards. >> Yeah.
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>> You will have 1% declination. So what does that mean?
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If you move off, then you're creating a Marcus car crash.
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Well, how I want you to think about this from now on, the further those numbers are, the bigger the car crash gets. Okay.
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When you're on that Agonic line, >> Yeah. >> No car crash.
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Everything's perfectly balanced.
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You know, you're doing everything. >> It's a seesaw. >> Yeah. It's a seesaw. Exactly.
1:02:23
>> And the egonic line, you say, are moving.
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>> Oh, they move every time the the polls move.
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That's why when you see CNN because you know they're full of and NBC the same way when they say the polls moving you immediately your intuition go that means everything else is moving.
1:02:40
You thought you were in a good spot you're not like I just told a kid that came to El Salvador Logan uh he's a farmer from central Arkansas that the area between Arkansas and St.
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Louis, if you drew that line across the Mississippi River right now is the worst place to live in the United States, I wouldn't be caught dead there.
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The only place in the United States that's really magnetically pinned, Pacific Northwest. Why?
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Cuz they have a lava dome that's growing in the Pacific Ocean that's now 5,000 ft.
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That wasn't there 12 years ago. >> Wow.
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So, you say, "Okay, that's good for them, but what happens if that lava dome does Mount St. Helens?"
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you probably don't want to be anywhere around that area.
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Even though it's good for us, meaning the planet, it's not going to be good for those local people.
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Which goes back to the argument that I made to you before about cornerstones and non-native EMF. It's the same story.
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The non-native EMF is the focal story, but the dynamo is the cornerstone story.
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And I think that you have to get the dynamo right before you focus in on the focal stuff.
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Early in my life when I first met you, I was all about the focal stuff because I always assumed the dynamo was stable and I was not correct. >> Yeah.
1:03:58
But if it had been stable for millions of years, it was a reasonable assumption that time.
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>> Well, the critics that will watch this say, well, Jack said early in this podcast 43,000 years ago we lost the Neanthals.
1:04:13
>> But on a relative basis, you are correct. >> Yeah.
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>> That it's been stable.
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the papers they just wrote them in science advances that said that right now oxygen is coupled to the dynamo.
1:04:23
I've always believed this Rick from my work but I never had the paper I could hang my hat on.
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That paper got published in 2024. So now it's axiomatic.
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You can't argue with me about it.
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The problem is even with that paper we have to understand it's variable.
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And when you understand that the earth's dynamo has been variable the whole way through, the first thing you should think of, that means that nature has to have a plan for that.
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And that plan is the reason why the VDR receptor is where it is and why the UVA receptor affects, you know, complex 4.
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That's how we balance out the effect of the car crash.
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>> We know that local honey is better for us than honey from far away.
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Is that true for every everything we put in our body? >> Yes. >> Why is that?
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>> Well, how does it work?
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>> That's that one's simple.
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You we've already answered the question.
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Who are the most magnetic animals on the planet? Bees.
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How do they get their honey?
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They magnetically find the flowers on your trees back there. What do they do?
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They pollinate and then they collect the honey and bring it back.
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So, what did they just do?
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Honey is a magnetic hysteresus.
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So, if you think about it like that, what else do you know?
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Honeybees are going by the wayside.
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So is the magnetic field.
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You're starting to see the story again. >> Yeah.
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So remember all the books that me, you, and talked about that I told them to read.
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Probably the one that I think you probably read was Life on the Edge by Jim El Khalle when he talked about the European robins.
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Birds have this thing in their eye called pectinoculi, which is a melanin thing.
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They can see the magnetic field when they leave the planet and they navigate.
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Honey bees do the same thing.
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Honey bees also have the ability to see UV light. And what are they using?
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They're using the UV light that's emitted from the bofotons of the flower to go.
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So what did I just tell you about bees that I just told you about us?
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You have to marry the agonic line to the latitude lines.
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Honey bees do that and honey is the result.
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So what is the correlate to that in the planet?
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That's the la stone in El Salvador. >> Wow.
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>> So that's the abiotic side of the biotic side of the the honeybee.
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And do you and I as humans with mitochondria need to pay attention to those lessons? Yes.
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And that would go for not just honey, but anything any food that's grown where we are is going to be more conducive in our body. Correct.
1:06:58
>> Than something that comes from far away. >> Not even close.
1:07:00
you know that that statement has got me into more trouble with food gurus than just about any other. And is that now proven?
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I mean, I still will remember the Harvard psychiatrist when I stood up at the Paleo FX meeting in 2011 and gave the keynote speech and I said, "This lady from Harvard thinks that eating this banana on December 21st is equivalent everywhere on Earth."
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I said, "That is psychotic."
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like and she's a psychiatrist.
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She should be medicated for that belief.
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And of course, you know, I took you cheat for that. But guess what?
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It turns out not in the distant future the paper's written. Boom. Jack's right.
1:07:43
>> And you are correct to now generalize that to everything because so far there hasn't been one paper that's gone the other way because now people are paying attention to this. >> Yeah.
1:07:57
Is exercise a waste of time?
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>> If you're on an agonic line and um you are in the sun doing the things you need to do, how about we just put it at a zero, meaning it doesn't hurt you, it doesn't help you.
1:08:14
Many people on social media think that I think exercise is a net negative. I don't.
1:08:18
I actually think exercise is a good thing.
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But let me explain to you very clearly why it's a problem.
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If you live on a planet that's lost 10% of the magnetic field, dutyium comes into the water table.
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So it acts like maple syrup.
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The ATP is supposed to spin 9,000 times per second >> or per minute.
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Does it make sense to spin that against maple syrup or less viscous water?
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Because that's what happens when you do exercise in a place that's bad.
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So guess what that means? Exercise is a toxin.
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So you know I have a friend that you used to follow on social media, Charles Poloquin and he died of massive coronary event and 58 years old. Guy looked way better. >> Wildly fit guy. >> Right.
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>> And he's dead and you and I are both way past 58 years old. >> Yeah. >> Right.
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You got to ask yourself why. The next example is CO.
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When I went back in to disprove all the narratives about COVID, I went back unretired, went into the ICUs.
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Fouchi told all of us that fatties were going to die.
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People with diabetes died.
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That's not who I saw dying.
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I saw fit people dying everywhere.
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How did the fatties die in the ICU? Very simple.
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The doctor intubated the patient, put a tube in.
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Remember what I told you before about the Marcus inversion?
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If you have a car crash here and you put oxygen here, you pull more electrons.
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That's how the fatties died.
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So, was it the fatties or was it the doctor?
1:09:55
>> It was the treatment, >> right?
1:09:56
It was the algorithm that was used.
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But, you know, when you tell a lie long enough, it sticks.
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Now, here's my favorite one.
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This is the update for Rick to use with his exercise friends, especially guys like Adia.
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The fittest guys on the planet right now, Rick, are astronauts and cosminauts.
1:10:16
The amount of food that's calibrated for their space is down to a metabolic ward level study.
1:10:22
Tell me, why is it that if they stay up in space doing their vasper exercises, past two weeks they lose 20% of their muscle mass?
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If exercise is great and food matters, tell me why it happens. >> Magnetism.
1:10:38
Not only magnetism, gravitational effects, but also more solar plasma.
1:10:42
In other words, all the things that I've been teaching you about for 20 years, they all come together.
1:10:51
But the point that people miss when I give them this analogy, physics scales at all levels. >> Yeah.
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So, I just gave you three examples where it happens.
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Now, don't you think I should get the answer from the food gurus to these questions?
1:11:05
gurus to these questions? because I haven't I've been waiting you know that they've come after me and this has been a point of contention with a lot of people but I believe what's happened with co has really shown it and the co effect hasn't stopped we still see
1:11:23
people that are fit dropping dead on soccer fields we see kids 13 years old after baseball practice we just had a kid 17 years old after a baseball game in Ohio lattis lock on the field like it's not stopping and it's going to continue to get worse because our myopia is not allowing us to see it. I'm going
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I'm going to tell you if you have good magnetism, good light, decent water, exercise is absolutely beneficial for you.
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But the question we all need to ask, what if the three-legged stool is highly variable?
1:11:59
Does it make sense to go into a blue lit gym in the middle of the SAA like a guy just did an MMA fighter?
1:12:05
Fit 43y old guy looked better than Peter Aia and human put together. Drop dead.
1:12:14
Autopsy showed nothing wrong with him.
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He had a magnetic stall of his heart. What does that mean?
1:12:19
Your heart stops in diastilly. Coronaries are clean. No problems.
1:12:27
In other words, what how Rick would describe that the ninth non-scientist, his life force was removed for him by some mechanism. >> Yeah.
1:12:35
And if we're magnetic creatures, which we are, and if the magnetism gets turned down, which it is, it seems like highintensity exercise when you're already stressed from the magnetism could lead to something like that. >> Well, it's a toxin.
1:12:53
You don't want to say it, but you said it. >> It sounds like it.
1:12:58
>> No, it sounds like it, smells like it.
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It's It's going to tell you that is the point >> that I want people to understand. Why?
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Because you asked me a question earlier.
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I told you the east and west coast of the United States is a problem.
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Our biggest part of our population, you know, is on the east east coast corridor.
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That means there's a lot of people that need to know this information that don't and their doctors are impotent to explain it to them because they're all trained from flex and report biochemistry.
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What you and I are talking today about is what I would call functional bioysics of the inner mitochondrial membrane.
1:13:30
If you understand literally 1% of what we've said, if I can just get you outside to exercise, win. Yeah, that's a win.
1:13:38
Even if they did it in Central Park, a win >> after water and dutyium, what was the next aha moment?
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>> Uh what melanin does with water? It charge separates it.
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So in other words, the fancy schmancy term is that's called animal photosynthesis.
1:14:02
So the first step in photosynthesis of oranges or your tree is light comes in, turns it into oxygen and water and two electrons.
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Melanin does the same thing except it makes four electrons.
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So what am I trying to tell you?
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More electrons are what life's about. Why?
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Because that means higher DC electric current.
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What do you know about electrons and protons? Very basic stuff.
1:14:28
Charged particles react to what?
1:14:30
Electric and magnetic fields.
1:14:30
Oh, we're back to that story again. >> Yeah.
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>> So, when you understand that, that means you're more magnetic. Okay.
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And it turns out melanin is a very special biomolecule because it predates the genetic code.
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It was never put on this planet by a DNA code.
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It was here before with another protein called feradoxin.
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And that's the iron side of the equation.
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Feradoxin is the early grandfather of the cytochromes that are in the inner mitochondria membrane today.
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And where does melanin sit?
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Cap all the way around the mitochondria.
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So what does it act like? It's like a film.
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So the light, the biopotons that you, I, and you talked about create a light show.
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The melanin is the screen.
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Melanin gets rid of all the bad stuff, all the signal, so that the noise only comes out.
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And it turns out that noise is tied a lot to Jerry Pollock's work.
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A lot of the water work, it's tied to specific frequencies of light.
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And I know you're going to ask me, Jack, tell me about those frequencies of light.
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I can't because I don't have a photo multiplier that I can put inside the cell.
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That was part of the stuff that I try to get Nicole and really fired up with Alexis Cowan to study because I believe the next big thing that moves the football is that >> we need that information.
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Where is melanin produced in the body? >> Everywhere.
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The part of the story that I don't think I've ever shared with you, it's the most important part of your story.
1:16:06
So to keep that vortex in your heart going, melanin is in all your arteries, but it migrates thereafter. You know what?
1:16:14
It follows a collagen called fibrillin and lamin and elastin.
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You heard elastin because of elastic issues.
1:16:22
You know that's how an aorta or a valve can get bigger.
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All of those chemicals are cy chemicals.
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So when you live in a place where the magnetic field declines, all those chemicals break down. What happens then?
1:16:36
you begin to lose melanin there. What is the remnant?
1:16:38
What is the thing Rick sees?
1:16:41
What is the thing that Peter Adia sees but doesn't know?
1:16:42
When melanin is gone from the arteries, that's where you get calcification.
1:16:47
That's the reason why peripheral artery disease shows up before the organ disease in the brain or the heart. So what does it mean?
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You've lost your ability, your biohysical ability in your arteries right off the issue.
1:17:03
So when someone has a calcium index score and has a positive calcium score, what it means to me is they got a huge melanin problem.
1:17:09
They have a huge collagen problem.
1:17:11
They're they're people that I'm worried about getting injured easier or having problems in different systems that will develop earlier.
1:17:20
Like if the collagen problem in the aorta is distally, you got to worry about the liver or the kidneys.
1:17:27
If it's proximal, you got to worry about the heart and the brain. It's not rocket science.
1:17:30
It's actually pretty easy to understand, but melanin in us was taken from an abiotic system, you know, early in the GOE, which is the great oxygenation event, brought into our system over mamalian history of 320 million years.
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We buried it on chromosome number two in a gene called Pomsy.
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And Pomsy makes a big chemical, cleaves it in multiple different proteins, six to 10.
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One of those things that cleaves is called alpha MSH.
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When alpha MSH gets turned on by the circadian mechanism, you make melanin.
1:18:10
>> So the sun tells your body to make melanin. >> You got it.
1:18:13
>> Anything else besides the sun or only the sun?
1:18:16
>> No, I would tell I would tell you it's magnetism directs it, but uh UVA light specifically stimulates alpha MSH.
1:18:21
UVB light, all UV light does it.
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I believe that that is one of the key frequencies in the biopotons because in a baby like when a baby's born, it doesn't matter if the baby's black or white, the baby usually has blue eyes and usually has pretty fair skin.
1:18:39
Soon as metabolism starts, the baby starts to make UV light from within.
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They start to develop the melanin everywhere in their body, you know, because they develop post-natally.
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And what people forget is that melanin comes from neuroacttooderm which is a neural derivative.
1:18:56
Comes from the same thing your brain's made out of. Okay?
1:19:00
Your skin is also a neural derivative. So are your teeth.
1:19:02
All of these places have melanin in it.
1:19:05
Like melanin is kind of like the stealth fighter in your body.
1:19:10
You need it to do some of the highlevel things that are in your body.
1:19:16
And it augments what mitochondria can do.
1:19:18
It allows mitochondria to be extremely complex, but it's the single most important chemical in your body to creating the vortex.
1:19:29
And why is the vortex important?
1:19:29
It keeps dutarium in the blood where there is cells that have no mitochondria, which is the red blood cell.
1:19:36
which is the red blood cell. Duterium becomes a problem when it's in tissues that have mitochondria because we don't want that first complex the one that you hear David Sinclair talk about all the time NAD positive when NAD positive gets duterated what happens every you lose the 30 million volt charge and that's
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when you can get an aneurysm that's when your heart can get heart failure that's when you get neurodeeneration that's when you get uh non-alcoholic fatty liver disease that's when you get P A, it's when you get mental disorders, uh it's when children can get retinal blasto like this scales directly back to just about every disease. And that's the
1:20:16
And that's the thing that you know I've always tried to get people to understand Rick is that physics scales.
1:20:23
If you understand biology, biology never talks about this.
1:20:28
You know, even where we are like, you know, the tool guys, you know, when they write lateralis and they talk about spiral out on the arm, people don't know if this is the spiral arm that we're in. Earth 4.
1:20:39
6 billion years ago was this close, meaning right here is the the black hole or the Milky Way. We're now here, Rick.
1:20:46
So, as we spiral out, the environment has totally changed.
1:20:49
Like when Earth was here, there was no oxygen on a planet. Now, it's here 21%.
1:20:53
So, what am I saying to you?
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The conditions of existence on the planet are always variable.
1:21:00
Life has to find a way with that variability.
1:21:03
We need to be aware of that variability so that we can take advantage of it.
1:21:09
>> Would uh eating collagen help with collagen or you don't get it that way? >> No.
1:21:13
But bone broth is a good thing to eat, but no.
1:21:15
And just so you know, collagen also is a chyro molecule.
1:21:17
Chyro molecules are tied to magnetism.
1:21:20
For example, if you're in Brazil and you think eating bone broth is going to change that, no, not going to work.
1:21:25
But >> it's not going to hurt.
1:21:29
>> No, it's not going to hurt.
1:21:30
>> It's not going to solve the problem.
1:21:31
>> No, it's not going to solve the problem, but it's not going to hurt you.
1:21:32
And I have no problem with people doing it.
1:21:34
I want people to understand that if they change their magnetic footprint, then it can really help. >> Mhm.
1:21:41
Anything besides sleeping on a magnetic go to change the magnetic footprint besides >> grounding.
1:21:45
I mean, if you could ground >> if you can ground in a place, >> you know, like I would say sleeping out here outside. >> Yeah.
1:21:52
>> I mean, you know, we've talked about >> and every story you go up is that much worse.
1:21:57
>> Well, I will tell you a story. I probably shouldn't.
1:21:58
I may get in trouble for this, but there's a a Formula 1 race car driver who's one of my members, and he happens to live in a very declined zone.
1:22:08
So, he asked me the same question you did, and I said, "Well, how much money you got, and do you know anybody?"
1:22:13
And he goes, "Jack, I'm willing to do anything."
1:22:14
I said, "Okay, I want you to go buy zinc, silver, and copper.
1:22:16
I want you to get a railro tie and make a wax outlay of that.
1:22:25
I want you to buy the metals in this specific thing. Pour it in there.
1:22:29
Then I want you to take specific gauge of copper wire and go all the way around your house.
1:22:33
Every six feet I want you to put this all around your house."
1:22:37
He goes, "Why are you doing that?"
1:22:38
I said, "Don't worry about that."
1:22:40
And then on at the end, like on your chapel right here on the middle, I want you to put a spike.
1:22:45
I want you to run the copper up there.
1:22:47
I said, basically, we're going to create a vortex over the place where you sleep.
1:22:52
We just made an artificial magnetic field for your house so that your responses and your performance while you're in that race car are better than everybody else's. >> Yeah.
1:23:06
>> And he goes, "Are you kidding me?" I said, "No."
1:23:07
He goes, "Where did you come up with this idea?"
1:23:09
So, that's what the Russians did to the cosminauts.
1:23:13
>> And he goes, "Are you serious?"
1:23:13
I said, 'Yeah, there's a guy named Slim Sperling.
1:23:18
>> Slim Sperling was a dowser. >> Yes. >> But guess what?
1:23:20
What he found >> was the effect of copper on the Vegas nerve.
1:23:24
That's the reason why the stuff that he wears works.
1:23:28
>> But what didn't anybody know, Rick, until I guess the last year and a half with me?
1:23:33
Do you know how we really make duty depleted water?
1:23:35
You know that the copper that's in foods and in trees is isotope 63.
1:23:44
The copper that's in CCO, which is cytochrome oxidase, it's copper 65.
1:23:46
Your mitochondria has a program in it that selects the isotope of copper that's designed to make dutium depleted water. >> Wow. >> How do you like that? >> Wow.
1:24:01
>> So when you say to me, Jack, can we just create this dutium depleted water?
1:24:05
Rick, if you knew how the body did it, you'd go, "Wow."
1:24:08
The guy that taught me the original idea behind this, this also was a museum of natural history story, a Russian biohysicist called Larski.
1:24:17
He got run over by one of the big farmer guys in New York City in 42.
1:24:23
What he did, Rick, he went in Manhattan to all the hospitals and put a special coil, copper coil around their neck and found no matter what the disease was, they got better and better and better.
1:24:37
He had no idea really about some of the stuff you and I were talking about, but what did he effectively do?
1:24:44
He was improving their veagal nerve function.
1:24:46
This was probably the earliest version of a veagal nerve stimulator using copper >> and it was just a copper ring. That was it.
1:24:55
And he and he did it by trial and error.
1:24:57
And he was so successful going in the hospitals that that information flew up the chain pole and then he was run over. >> Wow. >> In the city.
1:25:06
But here's the cool thing.
1:25:10
Some people think that that buried the information, but here you and I are sitting in 2026.
1:25:13
And I haven't told many people the story, but I'm going to share it with you.
1:25:18
I did a Q&A about six months ago with a gentleman named Miguel who got endstage Parkinson's disease.
1:25:27
And in my Q&A is when we go back and forth, you know, you can see the member in the back.
1:25:32
So, he looked comeomaosse.
1:25:35
His wife was the person on the Q&A and she said to me, she goes, "Jack, I've been listening to you about this aurora that came over my house last year."
1:25:43
She goes, "Are you saying that that potentially could be the reason why Miguel has gone down so fast?" I said, "Yes." And she goes, "Okay."
1:25:53
She goes, "We don't have a lot of money, this and that, but I am going to test your madness."
1:26:01
So, she picked him up, Rick, and brought Miguel to the beach at Coast to the Soul, very close to where my new place is.
1:26:06
And they hired a nurse, Rick.
1:26:10
In 3 months, the guy was walking 100 meters on the beach. >> Wow. feeding himself. >> Wow.
1:26:17
>> And the last bit that I did, I said, you know, I want to see how much more fat on the bone I could get.
1:26:23
So, I had one of my employees make him a Lacrossei coil from Vidri, which is this this electrical sore.
1:26:30
We actually took electrical wire from a house, stripped it out, and made it 30 cm. >> He got even better.
1:26:38
And what was the saddest part of the story?
1:26:40
Him and his wife ran out of money.
1:26:43
So, they had to go back to Puerto Rico.
1:26:45
I don't know what's happened to him since he's gone back.
1:26:51
I do know from some of my other members that spent time with him that his wife is doing everything in her power to get him back.
1:26:56
The point I'm trying to make to you, Rick, when I saw him in my own Q&A, I hesitated to tell my own members >> to bring him because I thought he was too far gone.
1:27:08
>> So, guess who got slapped that day? Chad Cruz.
1:27:10
because I can't be paternalistic about how bad something is because if you know that this potentially can help in some way on their mitochondrial function.
1:27:22
I have a duty not to be paternalistic.
1:27:24
Tell them and see what happens to put a bow on this story.
1:27:29
Right before Vince died, he said, "Jack, I knew this was a long shot for me."
1:27:34
He goes, "But my wife and daughter need to stay here because of their issues."
1:27:41
So Rick, here's the Jedi mind trick.
1:27:41
The guy who they picked up the Earth and Moon for really knew that his family needed it. >> Yeah.
1:27:54
>> And now, you know, I'm happy to tell you three of them are sitting here because what am I telling you? They believed.
1:28:00
I don't know what they believed in order to follow some crazy son of a on the internet to do this, but did they get to spend more time with their dad?
1:28:17
Did they learn things even about themselves?
1:28:18
And maybe, just maybe, maybe this is my intuition speaking to Rick.
1:28:25
Maybe Vince knew something that Jack and Rick didn't know. >> Yeah.
1:28:27
Any other things in the house specific construction?
1:28:30
We talked about the stone. You talked about copper. >> Yeah.
1:28:35
I would tell you the the electrical wiring.
1:28:37
We use mu metal shielded cabling. That's a big one.
1:28:39
This is a shocking thing for you. Uh not as expensive.
1:28:46
I will tell you one of the stunning things for me, you know, here if we were to do this in Malibu, especially a place like your your clinic. >> Yeah.
1:28:56
>> It would cost a fortune. Yeah.
1:28:57
>> Down in El Salvador, >> I found it to be 90% cheaper.
1:29:02
So, you know, I don't know what you have in your houses and other places, but I would tell you maybe one of those things that you'd want to talk to people and you know, if you were amendable to flying people in who already know how to do it, like I'll give you an example.
1:29:15
I'm building another beach place that that is a clinic for my members.
1:29:19
And I sent the electrician down there.
1:29:23
The builder there is different than the builder in the cooul.
1:29:27
The new builder said, "Would you mind if he taught us?"
1:29:32
So, I said, "No, I mean, because you know, it's about Rick when people come down there so that we can scale this to other places."
1:29:38
So, other things to do, uh, cooling pillows.
1:29:42
I use now bamboo sheets because they keep the temperature down.
1:29:47
Why do you want to do that?
1:29:47
We already talked about the curing temperature, but it also stimulates melatonin.
1:29:51
You know that melatonin is an antioxidant that helps with that car crash.
1:29:55
That's another big effect.
1:29:55
We talked about the carbonated water, the the stuff with the house. Here's a big one.
1:30:02
I wish I could do this in El Salvador, but I can't.
1:30:04
Not because I can't afford it, because I can't get the copper.
1:30:07
You know, if I had somebody have a private plane, I would want you to bring me down copper because one of the most amazing things is all the stuff that Pollock found in his work that if we had copper pipes that we can actually create coherent domain or easy in our water.
1:30:25
So that means all the water that you collect here since you're in the desert it's not a big deal but like in El Salvador, Costa Rica, you know, in the rainy season it's crazy. Hawaii the same way.
1:30:35
If we could collect our own rainwater and then built a vortex in our CT tanks, you want to know the truth.
1:30:43
The best way for us to test this, you do it small scale, put an orange tree and see what happens.
1:30:48
My belief is that you're going to see 40% higher yield.
1:30:50
So I would want to do that. It's funny.
1:30:53
I went to the Bitcoin conference this year in Prague and one of the um the leaders of the conference brought me to a square and Rick in the square was an old school vortex made of copper and it had a metal casing over the top so you couldn't step on it.
1:31:12
They collected all the rain water down and they took me underneath to show me the sewer system.
1:31:16
It was all copper all the way through. >> Wow.
1:31:20
And I thought to myself, this is something that we've missed out on, you know, in modern water systems.
1:31:27
>> But the thing is, you know, in a place like where you live, where I live, this would be the simple do.
1:31:31
Like right before we came here, we designed a new gutter system in El Salvador.
1:31:36
I wanted to do it in copper.
1:31:39
Rick, there's no copper in the country.
1:31:41
No, because they're they're resource poor and to bring the copper in it would have been psychotic.
1:31:49
You know, if I had a friend that had a a private boat or a private plane, I think the number one thing I would do is bring in copper sheets because Adam has an idea where he wants to create, you know, like a cornice or wood on the outside, then take a hammer and bend it out, then put that in there, collect all the rain water, and put it in a big copper urn and use that for all of our plants. >> Great.
1:32:15
You know, it would be like, you know, regenerative farming 101. Why?
1:32:18
Because remember what we said earlier about u the thermmo halaline currents and how we're transferring information and energy from the oceans up to the atmosphere.
1:32:28
It's the reverse effect of this.
1:32:30
What we're doing is trying to create information and energy in the water and transfer it to plants and us.
1:32:36
>> Yeah, >> I would love to do that.
1:32:37
Uh I've also grounded my teak deck.
1:32:40
I tend to use all tropical hardwoods.
1:32:45
So, I just bought a new wood that I've never had experience with before. Eucalyptus balsom. We have now balsom wood.
1:32:50
Uh, we've used a we've used probably more teak than anything else. We started using KCasta.
1:33:00
Uh, he just made me a butcher block that is grounded in the kitchen. Wow.
1:33:04
So, when you have your meat on it, we think there'll be an effect on that.
1:33:12
Unfortunately, trips that we make back to the United States, this was when we usually stop off at Home Depot and go crazy. Yeah.
1:33:18
And start muleing stuff back.
1:33:20
But we came up with some ideas recently about trying to find, you know, the little copper hooks that you hang coffee cups on >> about electrifying those through rods placed outside, running them in so that the coffee cups, cuz a lot of the coffee cups down there are made with the earth that's volcanic.
1:33:41
So it's got a lot of rees in it. >> Yeah.
1:33:44
>> So we thought about that.
1:33:44
We've done same thing with pots.
1:33:45
The ladies down there make these black ceramic pots that are made with the uslatan ceramics.
1:33:53
Those you can put them in a pizza oven.
1:33:55
You can put them on fire.
1:33:55
So I thought to myself, could this be a way for us to keep the bofotons in food?
1:33:59
Could we actually improve the optical photonics of our food by cooking this way?
1:34:08
So, we now have optical scanners that can prove this.
1:34:14
I've been using a lot of lake cruset stuff >> y >> and tried to improve, you know, food delivery quality that way.
1:34:23
>> Can't say that I've perfected it yet, but are those ideas that I've got as well?
1:34:28
Let's just put it this way.
1:34:28
I think the question you're asking me every single thing that goes into the house, the one specifically at Costa del Soul, it is the smallest boutique hotel in the world that has probably had everything thought that you could imagine when it comes to a non-native EMF environment.
1:34:52
So, we did a soft opening and we invited people that had specific electromagnetic hypersensitivity and you know that's pretty severe. >> Yeah.
1:35:03
>> We put them in our house and then we put Starlink on and didn't tell them. >> Nobody got sick. >> Wow.
1:35:10
>> So, this was our little biohack.
1:35:10
Were we doing the right things? Why?
1:35:14
I was concerned about windows and I was concerned about the roofs.
1:35:17
And it turns out the way that we constructed it, not a big issue.
1:35:22
Another thing, if I can get you to come to El Salvador, you see your bushes. >> Yeah.
1:35:28
>> The idea that I had is I built a huge metal grate, big grate, the squares are this big, then put chicken wire behind it, and then I put Borggan Villas and intercolated it in it to block everything around.
1:35:40
Um, we're also experiencing EMF protection using different plants.
1:35:46
I brought two silver palms in to block EMF signals. So far so good.
1:35:52
Also, we have an almond tree that and a chestnut tree. Not a chestnut is it? No, cashew tree.
1:35:58
It sits right over the restaurant that we're building. You can't see it.
1:36:03
You have to know it's there.
1:36:05
But do I believe that it's affecting the back of the restaurant where the people will be working?
1:36:15
So, I kept that, too, because the readings there led me to >> Are all trees good for EMF? >> Not. Let's put it this way. I'd say yes.
1:36:22
But certain trees are better than others.
1:36:23
And it turns out the tropical hardwoods are really good.
1:36:25
Like, I'm going to tell you, >> they're more dense. >> Yeah.
1:36:28
Well, I mean, have you ever picked up a piece of teak? >> Yeah. It's heavy. >> It's like ridiculous.
1:36:34
>> But the you know what the other key thing is?
1:36:35
Have you ever noticed the people that live in Central America when they do their barbecues, how their barbecues can last for days?
1:36:40
because the wood takes forever to oxidize.
1:36:42
So, you probably have heard of some of the crazy things that I've been doing recently when I go on all these cruises all over the world.
1:36:51
I get specific beeswax candles that the monks in Greece use.
1:36:56
They're 24-hour candles and I burn them in different places.
1:36:58
If you're in a magnetically decline zone, they should burn faster.
1:37:04
The oxidation rate is also the same thing with tropical hardwoods.
1:37:06
So, I'm testing that in different places. Why?
1:37:11
Because when I do something to the house, I have to have a mito hack to back it up.
1:37:15
And I'm using the oxidation rate of the wood and the flame for the same reason. Why?
1:37:20
Because what controls that?
1:37:21
The dialectric constant of the atmosphere around it.
1:37:25
>> And what does that tie to the magnetic field?
1:37:28
>> So when you see the link, I'm scaling the physics in the >> building.
1:37:32
The the beeswax candle is such a great idea because you could do it anywhere. It's easy.
1:37:37
You could carry it, >> right?
1:37:39
Like say if you did something like say if do I want to go and spend $40,000 to do this in my house? Well, here you go.
1:37:46
Go to someone's house and bring the beeswax. Check it out.
1:37:48
These are the kind of hacks that we're thinking about doing down there.
1:37:52
Right now, we just came up with a big idea for the uh restaurant.
1:37:56
We're building a garage door that has special glass in it that allows the sun to come in. Why?
1:38:02
Cuz in the restaurant, I'm not putting a classic facade up that you would see. Why?
1:38:08
Because I want the sun to come through there. >> Yeah.
1:38:11
>> So, we're using special glass, a boron nitride glass that allows full spectrum sunlight to go through it. >> Wow. >> Why?
1:38:17
Cuz I couldn't get quartz. Quartz is too expensive. >> Yeah.
1:38:20
>> So, those are the kind of things.
1:38:22
>> Stuff that no one's thinking about.
1:38:24
>> No, but the thing that's going to move your needle like if I anything I can do to bring outside in and I can make inside spaces nice.
1:38:30
Like say if we were out here and doing this and we had a rainy day and we were inside in the chapel, we could still >> Yeah.
1:38:38
>> You know, do light, >> right?
1:38:40
And I mean, I think the way you've got your openings here, too, is awesome.
1:38:44
I mean, you're doing the same thing.
1:38:47
So, the ideas are the same.
1:38:47
And I think the building materials that we use are important.
1:38:51
We've also done stuff with the concrete that we've used in terms of grounding with the rebar.
1:38:56
Right before I came here, I had the whole front of the uh hotel.
1:39:00
It's about as big as your front allad. The whole thing. Wow.
1:39:06
People are like, "Dude, that's crazy. Why are you doing this?"
1:39:08
It made a difference because the people that are staying in these two units. >> Yeah.
1:39:15
>> It's even better than it was before.
1:39:15
And you can't pick up any of the uh Starlink signal.
1:39:22
>> Could you explain the leptin reset to me? >> Yeah.
1:39:25
Um, leptin is a hormone that it's incredibly important both from your eye to your hypothalammus. And what is it?
1:39:34
It's an energy accountant in your body.
1:39:38
It basically is designed to connect your fat mass to your brain to allow you to know whether you're quantum coherent or not.
1:39:47
In other words, do you live more in a Marcus reset or are you doing things right?
1:39:54
And the most counterintuitive part of the leptin prescription that I don't think I've ever told anybody on a podcast, but Rick, you're going to get it.
1:40:03
>> Your fat mass protects you in a magnetic decline. Why?
1:40:06
Your fat acts as a a capacitor.
1:40:11
So, it protects your organs.
1:40:11
So, when you hear somebody has non-alcoholic fatty liver, that's probably because they live in a decline zone.
1:40:17
The reason why the liver puts dutarium in your portal vein to do that is you are looking to buy more time.
1:40:25
Your body is looking to buy more time so that you can live a longer life once you change the environment you're in. Why?
1:40:32
Because your body has been built to know that everything is variable. Yeah.
1:40:36
If you remember the long story I talked about long ago that the wilderbeast ate the grass and when the dutarium content went up high enough they got bellyachches and they knew they had to go across the Nile River where the crocodiles are to get to the better of grass.
1:40:51
Now they knew that their life was at risk but they got this signal from eating the dutarium.
1:40:54
That's exactly the same story here.
1:40:57
And let me explain to you the scale because I know this this probably could be very controversial, very similar to the exercise story, but I think when you understand the analogy, you'll understand leptin a little bit more.
1:41:10
When a baby comes out of the vagina, it's a big fat goo, floats in water, and its brain is not fully developed. Why?
1:41:19
The baby can't talk, it can't walk, its eyes are blue.
1:41:20
So, you know that the baby's not fully developed.
1:41:24
What happens is that baby uses that fat mass to actually protect and fill out its brain over 25 to 28 years.
1:41:30
What I'm saying to you is the scale, the fractal is exactly happens in the adult form that when the three-legged stool is broken, you create fat mass to protect yourself.
1:41:42
Right now, the narrative in food media or I should say food gurus and influencers that visceral fat is really bad.
1:41:49
No, the environment that you're in is really bad and your body is looking to protect itself.
1:41:56
>> And if I really scale this idea to something that's really gonna shock the audience, >> Yeah.
1:42:03
>> cancer is exactly the same thing. >> Wow.
1:42:06
>> Cancer is a way for you to protect yourself.
1:42:08
So, you know that when we type cancers in medicine, we go grade one to grade four.
1:42:14
Grade one is not so bad, low grade.
1:42:17
Grade four is really bad.
1:42:17
kind of like GBMs in the brain. What is the stochastics?
1:42:24
The link the Marcus car crash.
1:42:24
If it's not too bad, it's a grade one.
1:42:27
If it's a four, you're making no duty here in depleted water.
1:42:31
The Marcus car crash is great.
1:42:33
The other side of the seesaw is dead.
1:42:35
So, you know that in the COVID world, one of the things that's present on social media is that all these fit people are coming down with these turbo cancers that are grade four. Why is that?
1:42:46
The spike protein acts as the thing that decreases the 30 million volt charge and it can happen fast.
1:42:52
The key thing is they don't have the buffer of their fat.
1:42:56
That's the reason why the fatties aren't dying.
1:42:58
And I told you >> the way fatties were killed was we had to put a tube in and we're giving them remiss to do that.
1:43:04
Why am I coming out and saying this now?
1:43:08
Because we're in a world now where we've decreased 10% the magnetic field.
1:43:13
Rick, what happens if we get to 20 and 30%.
1:43:15
Maybe that idea that I shared with you today in September of 2026 won't be so crazy 5 or 10 years from now.
1:43:24
Kind of like when I shared with you don't wear your sunglasses or get in the cold.
1:43:28
And I think that has a very high likelihood to resonate down the road.
1:43:36
>> There's been a backlash recently against cold exposure.
1:43:38
What do you think that's about?
1:43:40
>> Well, it's because it's affecting the influencers business. Yeah.
1:43:43
>> Everything always comes back to money. You know that.
1:43:44
So, you know, you have to remember the number one thing that the influencers say is that cold reduces the inflammatory effect.
1:43:53
So, you're losing the effect of the exercise. No.
1:43:55
If you really understand what the effect of exercise is, is actually to dutarium deplete.
1:44:03
You're designed to squeeze your body to move the dutum back into the vortex inside your heart.
1:44:09
That's really what the purpose of exercise is.
1:44:12
When you understand that dutium has a different nuclear magnetic moment that when you live in a decline, all bets are off.
1:44:22
Like the game has changed.
1:44:22
And these guys are describing a biochemical process for a bioysics reason.
1:44:27
So I'm going to tell all the guys out there and girls who are doing CT, don't freaking stop.
1:44:35
I read the other day that blue light is today's asbestous. Now it's funny.
1:44:39
I heard you say something to this effect maybe 25 years ago. >> Correct.
1:44:43
And it it is >> what what's happening?
1:44:44
Why do you think you think people are just finally catching on?
1:44:48
>> I think it's become so obvious that you cannot look in the mirror and not realize that light 24 hours a day that has an a different spectrum has a huge effect.
1:45:00
Like the bioysics has been laid out.
1:45:02
The new biopysics basically says it creates a Marcus inversion effect.
1:45:05
It destroys the other side of the equation. So it's upside down.
1:45:10
And when you understand what that does, it creates free vitamin A, which is retinol.
1:45:14
That acts as a wrecking ball for all those chyro molecules in you, the collagen, APOE, melanin, you name the the protein in your body and it's affected by it. Why? We are light beings.
1:45:30
That means we're controlled by the optical magnetic effect.
1:45:35
That's called Faraday's law.
1:45:35
You already heard me talk about the optical magnetic effect.
1:45:40
Then we have the optico electric effect.
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All of these things are paramount to understanding how we work.
1:45:49
So when we introduce a different light stimulus than the one that's around us now remember it's in frequency meaning it's smaller in frequency and it's got the big blue light spike.
1:46:03
That's not the light that the sun emits.
1:46:06
Like blue light that's in the sun right now is not hurting us. >> Yeah.
1:46:09
But remember, it's got its buffer system with red. It's got UVA and UVB.
1:46:15
That's the key that we've all missed.
1:46:17
And I think light is a toxin just like exercise can be when we take it out of its frame of reference.
1:46:22
And I think that's really the story.
1:46:26
>> Is that the problem with most supplements as well?
1:46:27
Is that the >> supplements are a different issue.
1:46:31
>> Okay, tell me about supplements.
1:46:32
>> Uh supplements add atomic mass to the base chain. What's the base chain? DNA.
1:46:36
How do you experience that in your world?
1:46:38
You've heard of methylation.
1:46:40
Well, you know methylation. CH four groups.
1:46:43
Well, the H gets D on it. It's heavier.
1:46:46
Who's the number one person that gets heavily methylated when they leave the planet? Astronauts.
1:46:50
They're adding atomic mass to their base chain.
1:46:55
So, when you take supplements that are superfluous, you're doing the same thing.
1:46:58
So if you put excess mass in a place it's not supposed to be.
1:47:01
If you know that famous equation that I've tried to teach you about that you don't like E= MC² energy and mass are equivalent.
1:47:10
So if we increase mass what does it do to energy? Reduces it.
1:47:11
Is is it good to have bad energy? No. No.
1:47:17
>> And that's fundamentally the reason why you need to avoid it.
1:47:19
I always tell people the best supplement to take is dutarium depleted water.
1:47:23
After that I'm out on pretty much everything.
1:47:26
And I'm not going to tell you I don't use supplements in certain patients, but again, it's kind of like I told you about the use of methylene blue >> based on the patients N equals one. Yeah.
1:47:36
When I know then there may be a time where you hear, hey, I'll do this and do that.
1:47:41
But would I do it the way the food gurus or the influencers are doing on social media, take a con or kind of like tells people, this is my stack.
1:47:49
Jack Cruz doesn't have a stack.
1:47:51
Jack Cruz will never have a stack.
1:47:54
It sounds like the eyes are doing much more than our ability to see. They're doing a lot.
1:47:58
>> The eye clock is the big one. >> Yes.
1:48:01
>> And then the eye also controls a pier 2 gene which controls your supercosmatic nucleus.
1:48:07
Like if you talk about all the biopysics that happens in the retina before we get to the SCN.
1:48:14
I just did a podcast with a fitness guru who originally started out hating my guts.
1:48:20
hating my guts. like one of the guys that you know we used to talk about now he sees the wisdom in what I'm doing and in the podcast I do with him I said let me tell you about that pathway before and it turns out melanopsson the blue light detector neuropsin the UVA
1:48:37
detector they all play a role in forming that message before it goes through the SCN and then to the leptin receptor remember the leptin receptor is a distal receptor so you have to ask yourself the question And if you screw up the bioysics before the signal gets there, what is it? It's noise. It would be like you, It's noise.
1:48:55
It would be like you, you know, saying to Pearl Jam, that sounds like ass. >> Yeah.
1:49:01
>> You know, you got to subtract that out.
1:49:03
That's exactly what I'm trying to do when I explain to people that the leptin receptor is a very specific receptor.
1:49:09
It has an absorption spectrum of 220 nanometer light.
1:49:14
Just so you're clear on that, that is light that not even the sun emits that comes to Earth through the atmosphere.
1:49:20
So, you have to ask yourself why >> exactly, but guess what?
1:49:23
Nobody in biochemistry asked that question.
1:49:25
Yeah, >> because I keep posting the the picture. >> Yeah.
1:49:28
>> I'm like, look, it's right here.
1:49:28
NASA says this light doesn't come through.
1:49:32
>> So, what does that mean? >> Yeah.
1:49:33
>> Means we got to make it.
1:49:35
>> That was the inconvenient thing that I brought up to. >> Yeah.
1:49:38
>> And I said, Andy, why don't you look into that?
1:49:41
I mean, this is like basic softball kind of stuff.
1:49:43
And it turns out that the biopotons, the extreme low frequency UV light, we are emitting some of that light.
1:49:53
And that light not only plays a role with the protein, but guess what I'm telling you?
1:49:57
The water that's around that that's dutarium depleted that CCO makes also absorbs in that spectrum. What else?
1:50:04
One of the other chemicals that's most misunderstood cholesterol 260.
1:50:09
So when you start seeing all these chemicals that we use, like cholesterol is probably the number one one in our brain, why aren't we asking these questions?
1:50:19
Why do we say, "Hey, just take a statin cuz taking a statin is equivalent to creating a Marcus inversion event."
1:50:26
>> Cuz remember, it blocks electrons from 1 to three complex. >> Yeah.
1:50:30
>> So it's just making a NASCAR car crash. >> Yeah.
1:50:32
>> And we're letting all the cardiologists out there saying, "Hey, >> everybody should be taking this.
1:50:36
We should put it in the water."
1:50:37
Well, maybe the reason we're saying that is because if they put it in the water, you'll be a patient for life.
1:50:44
>> Knowing what we know about the eyes, does it beg the question, do the ears have any superpowers? >> Oh, yeah.
1:50:50
I've told you quite a bit.
1:50:52
That melanin sheet in your clay, it's called the strea vascularis.
1:50:54
This this is one of the greatest questions never asked by an ENT surgeon.
1:51:00
Why would God or evolution, no matter who you believe in, put melanin inside the cookia?
1:51:05
This is inside a bone that looks like a snail shell. Light can't get there. >> Exactto.
1:51:16
And I will tell you, Rick, that is the most amazing part of story because you actually use light to hear.
1:51:27
And the interesting thing is that strea vascularis the the membrane that deals with all of our hearing has a very special fluid around there we call it endolymph you know what's special about it has a high level of potassium in it
1:51:45
and you know that famous guy that you've heard me talk about Gilbert Lang that nobody understood his books the number one thing that he said potassium is how we structure water in other words that's how we make coh domain water. So when you hear that and
1:51:58
So when you hear that and you think about what I said to you earlier, that light we release gets absorbed by melanin and melanin makes four electrons.
1:52:08
And Jack is saying that this water has got more potassium in our ear, way more than any other sense.
1:52:13
And here's the craziest part about hearing.
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It's the one sense we have that uses more energy than any other. >> I didn't know that.
1:52:24
And the reason why you have so much melanin in it, it makes it more energy efficient. Wow.
1:52:27
So guess what happens when you deuterate endolymph and lose melanin? That's tinidis.
1:52:35
That's many years disease.
1:52:35
You want to hear another crazy thing? >> Yeah.
1:52:40
>> If you take an astronaut and put them into space 4 days, every astronaut since 1969 to now, four days they get tenitis.
1:52:49
When are we going to have an ENT say, "Well, if they get it and they have microgravity, no magnetic field, and youth solar plasma, might we have astronauts on the planet that are getting the same problem?"
1:53:01
Nobody asked that question. It's not hard, Rick.
1:53:03
You don't have to know the science.
1:53:07
So, all you have to do is ask the question like a fifth grade and go, "Yeah, why do we have melanin that's made from UVA light that we already talked about inside a bony cavity?
1:53:18
Why are we the primate that has more melanin in our head than any other?
1:53:25
All the other primates have it on the outside.
1:53:27
>> Yeah, >> we're the ones that like burying it on the inside.
1:53:29
Might there be a reason for that?
1:53:33
Should we maybe ask that question?" >> Yes.
1:53:36
and maybe do some studies about that. >> Yeah. >> And see what we get.
1:53:41
What's the distillation of that fifth grader question?
1:53:46
Uh problem is the NIH won't give money.
1:53:49
That's the reason why we need people like Nicole, you Michael Sailor, donate the money, but say you can only use it for this.
1:53:59
I don't want to hear about any of your other ideas. Just do this.
1:54:02
Figure this out for me before I die. >> Yeah.
1:54:05
What are the choke points in the medical system that prevent the real breakthroughs?
1:54:11
>> Uh, well, the gatekeepers, the number one thing is probably the doctors that control the silos.
1:54:17
You remember the story that I told about General Groves.
1:54:22
I think I I said it best in um Breedlo's podcast.
1:54:25
I did a Bitcoin podcast about what happened in the Manhattan project with Openheimer and what was the idea that we got from General Groves that he used with the physicists to build the bomb siloed them.
1:54:43
>> Why he did it then for sabotage and spying, but he was the only one that really knew what the end result was.
1:54:50
Openheimer was the one scientist that had a pretty good idea of what was going on, but all the other scientists didn't.
1:54:57
And that's the reason why they they had so many fights.
1:54:58
What people don't realize is when the industrial military complex gets built by Groves outside the US government, what does he do?
1:55:08
He uses the exact same formula through DARPA and ARPA.
1:55:11
And to this day, DARPA has 120 different silos.
1:55:19
And DARPA is the one that controls the funding through the NIH.
1:55:21
So I don't think from an organizational level that we can fix the problem until we deal with that issue.
1:55:28
I understand >> and and I do believe because I don't want to totally sound like a conspiracy whack.
1:55:37
>> I do believe I understand why they do that.
1:55:39
My big question is why is DARPA involved in biomedical research of the big diseases?
1:55:45
Like I can understand it doing it for military purposes but when they have overreached into the civilian world that's where there should be a wall up and no I don't think it should happen like if they find something really cool out do I think we should use it for the general population like say if it could help all diabetics or say if it could help limb regeneration.
1:56:08
I mean the best example that I can think of is when Becker found his original work, we buried him.
1:56:14
That set back the science of quantum biology by 50 years. >> Yeah.
1:56:22
>> I mean that's the reason why >> Becker the first.
1:56:24
>> No, the first one was uh you know remember the guys that volts are named after Volta. Yeah. Maronei.
1:56:31
>> I would put Tesla in there.
1:56:31
But the guy that I give a lot of credit to is someone who Becker gave credit to his name named Burr from Yale.
1:56:37
He cut trees and plants and found the same DC electroc card in them that's in us.
1:56:42
And that goes back to the story that you asked way back in the beginning of the podcast about oranges.
1:56:48
If a chloroplast does it, that means a mitochondria do. Why?
1:56:52
Because fundamentally they both came from endo symbiosis.
1:56:56
Little bit different but the physics scales.
1:56:58
scales. So when you understand that the DC electric current is the be all end all we use currents then you have to realize that it's magnetism because remember where's your tree right now where's where's the roots to the dynamo where's the canopy to the sun what did I
1:57:14
tell you about agonoc lines it's a gon lines is the tree not a perfect example of this microcosm right in our yard here it is and I'm going to tell you it's the same thing with us your link to magnetism and your link to the on defines what your DC electric current will be. Burr was amazing. Who is the Burr was amazing.
1:57:31
Who is the guy between Burr and Becker? Albert St.
1:57:37
Georgie, remember he wins a Nobel Prize for partially for the KB cycle and partially for vitamin C.
1:57:42
He even gets the KB cycle wrong, but he gives the most amazing talk in 1941 that Becker happens to hear.
1:57:49
And he says, "This is the weirdest thing.
1:57:53
I look at proteins and I see an electronic structure.
1:57:56
It makes me think that they're semiconductors.
1:58:00
Now, Rick, remember 1941, quantum mechanics isn't even laid out and he is a biochemist and he says something about physics.
1:58:08
That's pretty freaking amazing. >> Yeah.
1:58:11
>> And Becker sitting in the audience as a a young student.
1:58:13
20 years later, he proves St. George right.
1:58:15
And he uses a lot of the stuff from the vitalist that get buried from Rockefeller's Flexner report in 1913.
1:58:27
So when you see this big loop and realize that Groves put DARPA in the middle of it.
1:58:32
So there's our gatekeeper, the central gatekeeper, but are there other gatekeepers? Yeah.
1:58:37
I mean now doctors, they're taught this Rockefeller Flexner curriculum in med school.
1:58:41
Like you're taught enough to ask questions but not question the system.
1:58:47
Uh, and then you also never think about the siling you go through in medical school or residency technically in science to begin with.
1:58:56
And if the doctor doesn't ask the questions, like I've told you this personally, the worst time of my life was that 18 months when I figured this out, how mad I was at myself.
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Cuz here I am at the top of my class in medical school, supposed to be a smart guy, and I got fooled.
1:59:11
If I got fooled, why the shouldn't you get fooled?
1:59:15
Of course, you're going to be fooled.
1:59:15
Of course, everybody else is going to be fooled.
1:59:18
To this day, that's why I'm still mad, you know.
1:59:20
I'm still pissed off about >> And the thing is, I don't think being bad about that is a bad thing.
1:59:27
I think it's kind of a good thing >> because it's appropriate, >> right?
1:59:31
Because I can see the effect that it's had. >> Yeah.
1:59:36
>> And when you ask me a question like that, I want you to understand it's not an easy question to answer because the scales of control go into different things.
1:59:44
I think the levels of control go all the way down to hospital administrators.
1:59:49
Like right now, I would tell you the number one thing is no hospital administrator should have anything to do with the clinical practice of medicine and co proved that they are knee deep into it.
1:59:59
I really believe probably the most controversial thing I'll say to you.
2:00:03
I really believe today that you would do better never to go into a hospital when you're sick. >> Yeah.
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because they will seek to kill you at some level.
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Now, they may not have mal intent to do it.
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They may not know what they're doing.
2:00:18
>> It's the system, >> right?
2:00:19
Well, the system is built for profiteering and making sure you're a patient forever, not to reverse the disease.
2:00:28
Is there a planetary solution to beef up the magnetism of the planet?
2:00:36
>> I think there is, but you have to look back.
2:00:38
This is where you're going to like my answer.
2:00:39
You like the alien story.
2:00:39
So you know those those skulls and paracus that have the big huge >> Yeah. >> Collagen is chyro.
2:00:49
So we know that that wasn't aliens.
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That was what happens to collagen in this field.
2:00:54
So what do we know all the ancients did?
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They built the dolas in the ground out of paramagnetic stones. I gave you my idea.
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The modern version of is railroad ties with dissimilar metals connected through copper wiring. >> Yeah.
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>> So yes, I wouldn't call it a planetary scale.
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>> It's more like individual, >> right?
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Like in other words, humans are going to have to take care of their local zip codes to improve the situation.
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But I will submit to you to answer your question, next time you have a chance, I want you to look at a picture of Mars.
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Mars, Venus, and Earth are all rocky planets. So is Mercury.
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But they have a very interesting unique history.
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They're all tied to magnetism.
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Remember I told you that physics has to scale.
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What's the most unique thing about Mars?
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Mars lost its magnetic field 4 billion years ago.
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On its equator, it's got Val Marinys, which is a huge trench the size of the United States.
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The southern and northern hemisphere of Mars.
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One is missing 30 kilometers of rocks.
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My belief is that the sun hit it with a massive CME four billion years ago to restart the dynamo. Dynamo never came.
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All the rocks got blown off the southern hemisphere. That's the remnant.
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Let's go to the other rocky planet that no one ever talks about.
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You know what's unique about Venus?
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Because Elon Musk doesn't want to go there.
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Do you know that a day on Venus is almost a year on Venus?
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takes 243 days to go around the sun.
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The day on Venus is 233 days.
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Do you know that a day on Venus can vary by 20 minutes every day?
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Here's something else crazy.
2:02:39
Venus doesn't also have a magnetic field.
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But it's got this huge dense CO2 environment that you can't see through.
2:02:47
And the crazy thing, it's got lightning that goes from the ground up, not the ground that.
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>> I got the best one for you. saved it for last. >> Wow.
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>> It's the only planet that goes around the sun the wrong way. >> Wow.
2:03:01
So, why am I mentioning this to you?
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If the magnetic field continues to get worse, do I think the outcome of the Earth is going to be more like Mars and more like Venus?
2:03:12
More like Venus because it got tidal lock.
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All the CO2 is there for the reason I mentioned to you earlier in the podcast.
2:03:20
It's the planet trying to save itself, but the dynamo is dead. So what did it do?
2:03:25
It changed its ability to react.
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The light that it's creating now is doing exactly what a mitochondria does inside out.
2:03:39
So do I see that coralate there? I do.
2:03:43
The last planet Mercury so close to the sun that's basically an iron sulfur core.
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When I say an iron sulfa core, it's very much like the mitochondria.
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The atmosphere doesn't play a really big role there because it's effectively been burned off.
2:03:58
But do we know that it it does have a dynamo? It does.
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We just don't think it's as active as the one on Earth.
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What I think is happening, Earth is the fourth planet of the Rockies that is now starting to go through the path of the four.
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And for the last, I would say 540 million years, we've been oscillating.
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And as you said to me, Jack, what's your intuition tell you?
2:04:29
If oranges keep going away, Rick, and mosquitoes keep going to Iceland and honeybees keep going away and Atlantic hurricanes keep getting more rare, we're going we're going further south.
2:04:44
Now, the number one thing I can't tell you is I can't tell you the angle or the slope of that line.
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Part of the reason I'm here again with you doing something I said I'd never do is you probably have figured out now I'm interested in trying to figure out the slope of that line. >> Yeah.
2:05:02
>> So now you know why I'm here and yes am I looking for very specific things in the physics of the ocean. >> Yes.
2:05:12
>> The physics of the atmosphere. >> Yes.
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and specifically some of the volcanoes on Hawaii.
2:05:17
Because you may not know this, but Hawaii used to be the south pole of the earth. Did not know that.
2:05:26
Last time we had a true magnetic flip that you hear all these guys talking about like Roger Cunningham, the ethical skeptic, 780,000 years ago.
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It's called the neoprotozoic period.
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That's when the earth's magneettosphere was 98% reduced.
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That's the real reason life stayed simple in bacteria and archa.
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What magically happens 560 million years ago?
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The outer core and the inner core of the planet changed.
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My belief have no proof of this.
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I think we got hit with a CME.
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And when do I think the current 10% slide began for us? 1859.
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We got hit with a CME then called the Carrington event.
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That's when Alexander Granbell was first working on the telephone.
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He famously got electrocuted from the CME because there was no wires around at this time.
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And do I think that that was the sun realizing that the dynamo was starting to weaken?
2:06:25
I think it's gotten radically fast since December of 2012, specifically at the the winter equinox.
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What gave me the clue to that? Venus.
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Venus is what I've been using.
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I've been using a lot of the things that the Mayans looked at.
2:06:45
Mayans were experts in touraic currents.
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These are currents that come out of the earth.
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These are the currents that come out of the skies.
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And one of the things that the the Mayans noticed is that when plants didn't grow and they needed to use paramagnetic rocks, there was a problem.
2:07:02
When Aurora showed up inside the tropics, they knew there was a problem.
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But the Mayans, as far as I'm concerned, are the only modern humans that have survived a magnetic dynamo.
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They lived for 4,500 years.
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What's the end of their story?
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They left Guatemala and Mexico and went back to El Salvador where they began.
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Do you know why they left El Salvador in the beginning?
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A huge volcanic eruption occurred in El Salvador in a place called Metapan killed like 40 50,000 people.
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They decided they couldn't live there and they moved up.
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When they lived in this area, my belief is that they were informed by previous magnetic events by the people in Paracus, Peru.
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Those are the people that built Machu Picchu.
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I also believe they were informed by the Toltks, by the Aztecs, the Incas.
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and they had some baseline information about how to build their pyramids and what to do.
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And in their 4,500 year period, they realized as they moved up to Guatemala where the volcanoes were active, then they moved across to where Chitsanita is because they knew the water was special there.
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And they were right because previously an asteroid had hit there in the last extinction event that delivered a ton of rare earth elements.
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Wasn't that the carst in the ground?
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But that water because it's satin carst was naturally dutarium depleted.
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Then when you add the rees on top of it, you have a big effect.
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And this will be the last thing I say to you that'll probably make you smile.
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Why' I get so in tune to methylene blue for you?
2:08:50
They know about Inca blue.
2:08:50
You know the pyramid of sacrifice?
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They found a five meter thick Inca blue for all the people that they cut their hearts out.
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Still there to this very day. Wow. So guess what?
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They were using some of the crazy quantum physics that you and I have been talking today without knowing about it.
2:09:14
You know, when I say this to people on podcasts, they're like, "How is this possible that they can know this stuff?"
2:09:20
And I said, "Well, let me ask you a question.
2:09:21
You know those samurai sword guys that made the best swords in the world before we knew anything about metallurgy or physics or chemistry? How'd they do it?
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Trial and error and paying attention to nature.
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And that's how I think the Mayans did it.
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And today when you go to Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, you still saw those little Mayan faces cruising around. So guess what?
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They are one of my big teachers.
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>> When did the Mayan calendar end? >> December of 2012.
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And that's when the poles north and south started to migrate massively. >> Interesting.
2:10:05
>> You may call it a coincidence.
2:10:08
Jack, is there any coincidences in nature?
2:10:12
Does nature make mistakes, Rick?
2:10:14
>> We know it doesn't make mistakes.
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>> So maybe this is a little bit more than a coincidence.
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Maybe this is something that's tickling Rick and Jack's intuition.
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So that maybe Jack is going to come and see Rick again for another time that he said he wasn't going to do to kind of go see does the physics line up. >> Yeah.
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And you know, do I think if I'm breathing and I'm curious enough, maybe down the road we do another podcast like this and we talk about what'd you learn? >> What's happened? What's the new thing? >> Yeah.
2:10:50
>> What what's the next step?
2:10:50
What else do you think about now that you know this?
2:10:55
To me, that's what makes our life fun.
2:10:59
>> I don't look at it from a negative connotation standpoint. >> Yeah. >> All chaos is good.
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You just have to be able to operate within it. different.