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I guess after a while it just becomes Rockstar mode doesn't it I guess so I guess it's just like well I guess that's what I am now always ready always [Music] prepared I didn't even know where to begin on this album I have to take my
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time over the course of our chat because um I could get really excited and just like just drop all my love about this album and like it' be hard to hard to absorb but I do I do really think that whatever it is you set out to achieve and I guess that's that's what we're
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supposed to try and figure out you know whatever you're trying to whatever you're trying to say on Big Ideas you got it you nailed it start to finish nailed it and I know it was a journey I know it was done in stages I know that you went through some it's all over
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the lyrics oh yeah but wow did you pull this off thank you that is so so kind I'm so happy you feel that way how did you feel when it was done and you knew that you couldn't add anything more to it without going crazy so you had to let
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it go was it Joy was it relief was it Melancholy well okay the actual letting it Go the actual release was uh very joyous and like felt like this massive weight being lifted off my shoulders cuz I felt like I'd just been pregnant for like 2 years
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essentially well maybe like maybe maybe a year but um I mean mixing and mastering is always the scariest part of the album making process for me because it's when you start to kind of hallucinate like auditorily yeah and you're just like I
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don't know what this is or what I did and you start to second guess everything well also the original intention that inspired you to make this song starts to become something that other people are going to listen to yeah and so you have
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to almost detach yourself from that and it becomes something else you start to prepare for to to allow other people in and I think there's like a huge disconnect there that starts to happen within your body and you're just like oh my God so like yeah the three months
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before the release is is really uncomfortable and then once it's gone it was like the I had this party at my house and it was so so fun and then but then when you freak out about stuff like that you just go listen to cherries and cream you're like oh no I did that I
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can do anything yeah that that that song was a that was a a monster one to produce song is unbelievable thank you that's song is like that's like a bar set for anybody I think I mean you just you that's like a big wave and you rode
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that it it yeah it was a wave that we could have not gone on but we did and we like really we saw it all the way through we spent so many hours on that song probably like a 100 hours or something on that song I can tell I can
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tell because the the musicality and the and the arrangement it's it's almost like um how do I describe that I'm going to nerd out here so hard on Arrangement um but but the bit when you go faletto and you kind of write it out and you give us the
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hook it's like I don't even know how you found a way to connect to the song like that when it when it was already throwing so much at you it's like you just cleared the way you just got everything out of the way and was like I'm just going to do this part now and
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the song went okay it's like you tamed it yeah thank you it was it yeah that was a a beast of a song I actually wrote I wrote the verses last um a couple months after we actually started it which is not a way that I typically work
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I normally tend to write everything all at once in one day and then you know go back and tweak production elements and uh vocal production and stuff like that but um this song Because kind of like the Beast of it and because it was so
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there's so so many clear sections I didn't know how to approach the verses at first the chorus was actually the first thing that I had um so that that yeah that like you said the the paved uh Lane for the chorus was kind of already there it was mainly how do I get
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there I mean I think you hope you pushed yourself to the point where you're not quite sure if you can ever sort of replicate what you made when you in a studio I really think that that's kind of the point of being free and not worrying about what you think you can or
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can't do or what you did before it's like oh I'll figure that out later what a brilliant challenge oh yeah I I got the band for it this time at least we're touring with like an eight piece band and uh that is I was going to say you
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need that no you on no but you let's go no but you need no you need that now I do I mean there's I just don't think that there's a single way that I could ever pull this record off if I didn't have um the um just like the amount of people to play all the sounds because we
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we went so deep and on all these sounds and we're going really really deep on the uh live production right now great so it's going to be really cool and I'm just kind of like I'm over tracks I'm over I'm just over having anything fake
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on stage or anything pre-recorded it just like makes me so angry you've grown past it yeah I mean angry is a strong word for that but maybe I mean redundant maybe I'm not trying to replace the word but I mean I get so angry at backing
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tracks I honest angry I I do Furious I get that I'm I am furious yeah doubling down you actually actually I'm livid I'm actually I'm really mad are you Jay-Z in his DOA era you're like death of autotune is that where you're at right now it's like well I actually am kind of
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starting to appreciate autotune more than I ever have which is wild and but I'm I don't like the tracks um and I'm kind of just trying to get back to a place live cuz I play live so much I play so many shows all year and um I'm trying to get back to that place
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where I was when I was like 15 and starting playing music and like what made me so excited about playing a live show and that was like having all my friends on stage and for all of us to be able to look at each other and like
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respond to each other make moves what the tracks do is they put you it's exciting when you first go out with the tracks because your show is new but after 50 sounds big it sounds big but 50 shows with the tracks you know what you're doing every night cuz the tracks
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are the tracks and so after a while it's like damn man this is a desk job it's probably the closest thing to feeling a bit like a desk job it's so boring and it's so disrespected desk jobs but you know what's on your desk before you get
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there yeah disappointment I was trying to I was damn I mean that's actually probably pretty close Remy here's the thing about this team when one of us tries to walk it back there's always one of us ready to take it Forward right good that's
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where good comedy happens as soon as I'm trying to like make good with everybody to disc job Han I was like no I'm not done I'm toring the disc I'm torching the disc hey where where do I get a t cap from I got this cap in Spain it's
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not even merch it's not even my merch man I found it like I just was walking in a store and I was like oh my god did it Inspire the song was it all no this was post song wow I just got this like a month ago does it happen too often you
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know when you're walking down the street and and just things that seem random you can actually change the context of them and be like oh that's interesting there's something to that there's a connection there what's going on in my life yeah I've been I've been feeling
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that a lot me and my friend who's Somewhere Out There were talking about a bunch of stuff the other day and then two minutes later like on the radio they said the exact like words that we were saying and we were like what the and then and then no it what the oh
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we can say it sure what the it depends finally on the person I mean you know if if someone came in real Angry I'd be like but you know you're Remy wolf get away with anything hell yeah I mean you literally hell yeah dude dude that's what Jus starts
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about she gets away with anything I mean if it's a brat Summer she is definitely Big Brat energy no question about it yeah Brat's so good she's killing it and right Ian the world just finally caught up right yeah man thank God I mean if you watch Oliver last night you know it
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was quite a big segment at the beginning when he was wrapping up the week talking about how CNN were trying to wrap their head around what brat summer meant Jake tap is like does that mean we're all brats and then John oliv's like no Jake
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Tapper you are not a brat it was brilliant it was just yeah it was amazing um you got to get that t merch going on I mean I do they'll be I'll have my own but for now this is what this is what we got so we got um I got this bootle it's got legs though
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got leg thanks yeah man it's beautiful um you now share a wonderful creative space with one of our favorite people claro who of course is also working with Le Michael and um I love her yeah she loves you too I'm sure and it's like
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look you're coming from a similar place um you know both in terms of generationally artistically and um you know growing into a room where you know our Michael's Affair has been giving us this beautiful along with others this beautiful tasteful like instant vintage
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timeless music that just makes you feel good and I think you know for an artist like yourself to get to a point where it's like yeah I can absolutely sit in that room and it can mean something to me and I can contribute in this space must have
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been a really lovely Revelation because a lot of young younger pop stars or new artists would feel intimidated by that level of musicality and that desire to make something that could have sat in any decade do you know what I mean like
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we're trying to make something M and new and you're like hang on now I want something Timeless yeah I think I mean back to what I was saying before I think working with uh Leon and Nick and Homer and um Paul like all those boys uh felt
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kind of like a return to home for me because I'm so used to making music like like yeah like that like jamming with a band with a bunch of people so we spent a week together we probably made like eight or nine songs that week um
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motorcycle and just to start with the two that I released from that week but uh I mean we just jammed all week we wrote like multiple songs a day it was so fun yeah I mean they're all incredible musicians so good we were all just like staring at each other yeah and
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just like keeping up with each other and this really exciting way um that a lot of you know like modern pop sessions you don't even have you don't really have the space to jam like tiny little riding rooms tiny little production Suites I
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mean you know it's I I call it speed dating because it is hey nice to meet you what's going on in your life I know we just met tell me you DOA secrets and let make a pop song I mean it's tough that's crazy it's a crazy job but they were so awesome so open like so fun and
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truly like allowed me to kind of just talk my and uh sing and you know you talked your yeah I talked my you sang your ass off yeah it was really fun it's so crazy I remember one of the first times we in fact it must have been the first conversation we
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ever had you're in a park somewhere you're outside you might have been hiking I think and uh you were describing kind of your living situation and and where you sort of come from or maybe what you were leaving and how you were sort of you described it as just
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like a crazy house of people just all creating and doing mad what young people do when you find Freedom yeah and um a trap house I believe I believe the word you used was degenerates yeah we were degenerates degenerates right I
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mean just just casting your mind back to that for a second and the path that has set you on clearly you're out the other side of that now and not without life's challenges they'll always throw them at you but you talk openly about some of the clear realizations and
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self-awareness you came to over the course of making this record that kid back then who was that kid oh my God she had no clue um but she was she was really drunk and uh but super into I mean the same same stuff like jamming all the
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time uh hosting people I would play at a lot of House parties and that was my like favorite thing to do in the world because um everyone was having just the best time and we were all so free like you said it was just like this time of Pure Freedom
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and like that energy I think still lives within me so like when I approach making music when I approach like performing my music I kind of am always searching for this like party uh like excitement which can come from like partying or not but just like
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surrounding myself with people who like I genuinely enjoy and like that genuinely are free and and uh down to explore and well it's really you're in service to curiosity more than you are to Hedonism and I think often the two introduce each other quite early in life
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it's like what's that I'll try that and then it's like oh cool that makes me really curious but it's actually you were curious first yeah always curious I mean I I love it's my favorite words curious I love it I love exploring and
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um yeah I just like I'm so open I'm musically I'm so open to kind of anything coming in um did it get crazy in the house though with the moments where I was like this shit's like spiring off into outer space like oh my God yeah the last I lived there for
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three years and that last year got real dark all right give us one story with that's not the darkest but somewhat shade shade driven I mean just like generic tobacco bong rip like tobacco bong R yeah like ripping a bong but it's pure tobacco oh oh my
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God what the TBR call you got a acronym for just pbrs and TBR it's not enough to do it you got to do it faster so you do it with an acronym y it'll take too long to tell you what it is let's just do it so fast we call first of all I need to play
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a chord that I love that always makes me feel calm yeah oh that feels so much better and number two um I've heard and felt a lot in my life and long may that continue I have never heard of a TBR in my entire life was it a physical
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challenge was it a feet of strength was this just to get black out and throw up like I don't know like just the idea of that much tobacco it it was to it was you got real Li headed so you would like take it and then be like yeah no literally literally like and it would
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knock you out for like a minute a minute straight you know what's crazy even the tobacco Association of the of of North America are like that's stupid yeah no they hate us and they're just trying to kill people and they're just and they're just outright like not
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trying to but they're outright aware of the fact that their product stop making us look bad Phil Morris sending you a season assist and be like look you got to you got to relax you're bad for business bad for business all right all right all right
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all right these big companies hate me for my secrets um there's there's a lot of while we're here let's get away from you know what this actual subject matter is going to sound light after a TBR um you know doing business on the roof there's
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a lot of sort of references to this kind of life that you were living where clearly you were enthralled with someone or somebody's that had a lifestyle that you were trying to keep up with um that included probably alcohol and drugs and
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just all nighters and the that you do right and and it's clear to me in this album that by just acknowledging that you were like that ain't me or maybe it is and I need to make it not and maybe that's just going to be how it's going to be I think it was a lot of
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uh I keep using this word but a lot of exploration on like what my boundaries were uh with like how far I wanted to like party and how far I wanted to like be sober I was kind of like on all the spectrums like how how committed I could
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be to a relationship how not committed I could be to a relationship like if I wanted to like if I was okay with like having a one night stand and having that be like the only thing or if it's like I need like something more yeah so I was
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just like exploring all this stuff I think I there was nobody I was really trying to keep up with I was just kind of letting life wash over me and the reality was that I was just on tour for two years straight so which is such a crazy place to be because at the
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end of the day you're in a different town every night and everyone who shows up wants your attention not just from the stage but after they're like hey man let me show you round hey man come to this bar hey man give us a story to tell
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I'm friends with Remy she hung out with me in Milwaukee and so it just becomes this thing and why wouldn't you hang out with like Sue in Milwaukee but but but Sue is going to work the next day with a hangover and then you go off to where's
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near Milwaukee Wisconsin you go to Wisconsin yeah and then there's Bob in Wisconsin who's like Remy and you're like oh Bob I just had a big night with Sue in Milwaukee yeah I guess I'm having a big night with Bob in Wisconsin
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yeah it's it's a lot of that I actually a lot of that I I actually haven't been to Milwaukee or Wisconsin but um but you know New York I mean I don't know if there even a Sue in Milwaukee I don't I don't know a single Sue or a single Bob for that matter I pull
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four for four I mean they've fallen out of fashion for a reason you know what I mean the names will remain you know okay so but it was there wherever you were I mean two years straight look I'm just saying if you're on the road for two
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years straight Remy wolf you're in a loop you're in a loop and there's just a lot that goes down um and there's also not a lot that goes down I don't know it's like it's a lot it's a lot of the same but then a lot of like really random moments that super stood out like
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my song Alone in Miami combination of the Bal and the boom bastard you're talking about your days off right like you you get your one off day and you're in Raley North Carolina by yourself it's not just that it's like sound chei gets
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monotonous sh gets monotonous sh get monotonous you was saying about alone in Miami which as well well yeah alone in Miami kind of that was one of the like a standout moment of like a travel a I was in Miami to go to a Playboy party like a
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party for Playboy and I went there um 4 days early because I was uh didn't know what I was in for and I was really feeling psychotic I guess at the time four days in Miami during art basil is a lot um but I went essentially and I didn't really realize that all you do in
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Miami is party y so that's kind of what I did and like very and I was alone so it very quickly turned into this like super dystopian Fear and Loathing yeah and I was like you know I was doing drugs that I normally don't do and I was
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um I mean yeah it was just kind of on your own so let's just figure that out so you wake up in your hotel you're on your own and you're like all right it's all out there waiting for me if I want it yeah what's the first step what because when you finally get
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to bed at 5: in the morning you probably taken 1,32 steps not literally but like toward the end of the night things micro moments this drug this conversation bumping into that person that just happen what just happen what's the first
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step the first step was I would go to the beach and I would um be really depressed and I would listen to Liz Fair wow wow I mean for like a couple hours such a good call too nothing will get under your skin when you're down the Liv she's amazing at that she's amazing but
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also like super super moody especially her first album yeah I love going to the beach and listening to sad yeah I listen to Tom York solo albums when I'm at the beach all the time put on Dawn Chorus on a sunny day in carbo I'm a happy guy so yeah
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yeah the first thing the literal first thing I did when I landed in Miami was I got a kubano and then I looked around me and it was like all these crypto Bros because it was Art basil and nfts had just become the thing so I was like eating my kubano the
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crypto Bros are all around me I was getting sunburnt and then I went to the beach and I listened to Liz fair and then um the week kind of just unfolded from there but essentially that song I took that entire experience which was like a
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4-day craze and I didn't even have to make anything up I just put that right into the song and um yeah now we have this song when it's time to record your songs I don't hear a um a tool like a voice a tool like a voice I just hear like a like a spirit like you just even
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your pop songs you're like you know me and the boys in the hotel lobby like I'm there with you yeah you know how was the toour Olivia how was Arenas how was doing that we saw you before you hit the road on that yes I know you didn't take
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any of the advice that we share confidentially between us in terms of like the introduction if we were going to get that person to come out and introduce you with just expletives she's a greatest h on the plan I'm I that advice is still ringing in my
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head though the MC of it all with like the just the harshest of positive yeah swear words I I I could there could be a moment soon where I bring that in but not on someone else's tour how how was that experience I'm sure she made you
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feel really welcome and everything was beautiful yeah it was it was awesome I mean it was my first like it was a 10-week tour so it was really incredibly long um and I'd never been to like half the cities we went to in Europe but I I
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mean there her whole band her dancers the whole crew the whole team is so so lovely so welcoming we all became like really really great friends and it was cool to just like be able to go out every night and um it was cool to like kind of watch from a bird's eye view my
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set evolve over time like I and I got more and more comfortable just like doing some I started like you know flashing titties by the end which was um they're yours they are mine and I yeah but uh it was it it was really wild to kind of watch me sink in to watch myself
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syn into like a almost a character yeah a character for like a longer period of time people often say that when you get into the big rooms that that that you know you have to adopt some kind of costume in order to reach people and do
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things in a different way yeah and I think especially when it's not your show yeah that's right right because you know you have a small window to come out there and make an impression otherwise why do it yeah and I think that I went
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in with a really set intention of I want to be like a legitimate opener for her where I do my do the job of getting them super stoked and like psyched to be there and for a lot of those kids it's their first concert so I kind of took probably also their first flashing y
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that too um happen eventually it's going to happen eventually yeah I mean might as well be me exactly um but you know I it a lot of them I would watch the first couple nights and so many like there's like 9-year-olds that are just standing
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there so stiff and singing every word with their crying but they're just like yeah they don't know what to do with they don't know what to do with their body so I kind of I was observing that and um I really made it a point like at
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the beginning of my show I was like okay guys we're going to do some exercises together so I had everybody put their hands up Shake It Out we did like a vocal exercise and I was like all right I'm here for now I need you to go into your brain I need you to shake that
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out and I need you to try to let go of everything from this past week and get really present with me because tonight is going to be really really fun amazing Remy I love that I love that you did that you know most people go out there
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in their first Arena tour whether they choose to admit it or not and and they want to take something they want to take something so that they so that when they they're done they're like yeah I've got something to add to my journey now like
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I took some of that audience who love me now you know and it found it sounds to me like you went in a very giving spirit and it worked and I'm sure that that that Olivia and everybody appreciated that as well yeah I mean I you know the
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fan retention or whatever the hell that is I was I was really trying to not be concerned with that um as much as I possibly could cuz that kind of just ruins the joy of the of a tour like if you're so focused on the numbers so focused on like is this working like you
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know like it's it just ruins it and I I mean it it was just an incredible life experience at the end of the day you really we've really got to continue we do this on the show we got to P respects to Olivia she's doing like a 1980s World
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Tour like she's it is insane how hard she's working on the RO yeah no she's she's incredible I mean her show was Flawless every single night she can she is an incredible singer and the songs are just amazing one after the other after the two albums I mean I I don't
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care what anyone thinks about this comparison I mean she's like The Strokes like they were doing those kind of tours on two albums very few atists get to two albums and get to two two of the world in these kind of places like that for
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that kind of period of time um you know she's she's literally sort of in that in that category of someone who's put out doesn't really matter if you're going got two albums if or every song is the one that just means you have 25 songs
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that are the ones you know it's just un it actually it is it is really wild I I mean every single song's a banger yeah huge band too huge and also super tasteful about who she's deciding to like come and help support her like between you Panther reader like it's
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wild man breeders the the breeders I mean we I think we were went quite quiet in the room for like 3 seconds live on air when you gave us that news we were like the Breeders godamn she's got taste that's crazy I you know she does but I mean that's a
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that's a pretty cool move um now you get to focus on building your show around this beautiful body of work you you did it you achieved it you get to go celebrate it with your friends now um You A glastenbury yeah I just did that so you
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already dabbling and all this stuff how was that how was was glass me for you it was cool I was I was only there for you know 10 hours you got to go do it up one time yeah that was at the end of the Olivia tour so we were all very tired
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yeah it's a lot when you're TI Co um well yeah what okay is wrong with no but no but you know you're outside in the most outside place of all time you know I think look the bottom line is and I'm not trying to justify anybody walking around with Co but it's
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everywhere again it is it's it's back this summer I see very few masks and I hear a lot of people with Co so I think at the end of the day it's just like okay this is how we live now yeah you know that's the flu by the way a lot of
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people at glass Ur have a lot of things a lot of people at glass have a lot of things did you hang out together at glass Ur uh no you were very sick I you were sick I was sick dude and then we we were driving back from glassenbury to the hotel the airport hotel where we
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stayed overnight and the freeway shut down oh yeah that freeway by very shut down so we were just like why I've never had that before getting off sight H why the freeway uh for this time they were doing like a bunch of construction by
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the that's a good idea during GL B weekend keep the construction moving what a great idea so we were just like walking up and down the freeway like like after the glass oh my God like The Last of Us yeah it was crazy we I was like on the barrier like I pissed on the
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other side of the road like it was it was awesome so after you're said you also came out again with Arlo so it's you weren just staying still you like had two sets that day I had two sets that day stage with Arlo with Co well
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first of all everyone they were 6 feet apart it's fine it's fine the hug didn't even count at the end yeah you know we it was the faces were we didn't even kiss yeah there wasn't even a kiss by the way she's fine for now we're all fine for now is she
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fine I I was I watched um every single season of of Bridgerton that week no you didn't get past one you never go past one on yes you do no you don't D the ending is great and the movies one was like movies I get it they just got they started putting out some movies there's
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one about the queen oh it's Ben oh so this is deep there's so much Bridgeton I haven't seen there's lots of bridg watch got to grow up dude we had no idea Dean was so Bridgton pills don't worry about it dude I don't even know what you're
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talking about you are Bridgton pills I dude I am dude I'm Bri did you watch it in glass t as well I watch way before that dude I've been Bridgton before Bridgton was bridon he's like always talking about bringing back to aristocracy he talks about it
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constantly he's actually a he's Monarch obsessed he's a royalist I love it I love it dude um well Remy well well we went a bunch of places I feel like we covered a lot of grounds I feel like we covered a lot of grounds well you we just always feel like you can come back
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and hang out with us you know it goes It goes beyond the music and Beyond the beyond the show you got good friends in this room people who would love you and uh you know really think just think think the world of you man you're such a
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special person thank you and you br I think the world of you guys Big Ideas is the name of the AL Remy wolf is the artist she has to leave us now but I want to play just the start because um lyrically man I think I was in my car and I actually said to myself with no
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one around oh that's good Remy just myself because at the end of it it's like you just you nailed it and and you didn't Dress It Up in anything you just let it hang out so just a few final words about why you finished the album
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pre- bonus with this song I I wrote it as um I was in my bed at like 3:00 a.m. and feeling very existential about like my Artistry and just kind of my life in general and I was you know doing a lot of observation at the time which we know um but I don't know like
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I the the final the final stanza of the song is like the thing about the chase is it plagues the human race think about it net if is it only works when it it's wet with the fishes or with the worth of a check and the thing about getting caught is you think it's the end but you
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know that it's not it's just the start start it's so good and uh I don't know I just I just the start I mean ending an album with just the start is cool it's kind of like a it's a cliffhanger and um I don't know I just like it it was it I
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I stand by that song as almost like a thesis or something it is a thesis if you look at it like this is this is kind of your life today in a way I I don't want a party and I don't really want work yeah you know either way I'll be
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lonely either way I'll be cursed right yeah cuz you never feel more lonely than when you feel alone at a party right I mean it's it's the worst loneliness in a Str it's not worst but it's bad maybe somewhere in the middle is actually worse so it's like that's just not
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feeling that's just not putting yourself through the low and the high yeah and I I think those three lines when I heard them I was like wow you really summed up um to some degree what it is to to kind of be an artist and be complicated and
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have this desire to be social and also this desire to be antisocial and but then you know the alternative sucks yeah it I mean there's there's so many ways you can go I feel like walking the tight rope of it is the exciting part [Music]