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[Music] foreign we're talking about is it's Joe Rogan interviewing Steve Jobs and we'll sell the background of how it works but basically it's both it's all AI generated and Joe Rogan is inter fake Joe Rogan is interviewing fake Steve
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Jobs and I got a little emotional because like I like Steve I kind of like Steve Jobs but I respect him a ton and just hearing him talk about topics that seemed modern I was like he's you know he's back from the dead you know what I
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mean I wouldn't exactly say he's one of my heroes but he's someone I respect and just I'm like oh my God the dead is alive again and that was let's pull it up so the way I think we should do this episode is I think we I think we focus on AI I
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think we show some of the stuff that has caught our attention so it's kind of a show and tell so if you're if you listen to the podcast I think you're going to want to be on YouTube right now to actually see this stuff and when you're
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there you're gonna want to subscribe and when you subscribe you're gonna want to share tell your friend no okay but like you do want to go to YouTube and just I don't know go to YouTube and search my first million and then then click the
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channel this will be uh you know the AI episode will be up there Ben is going to screen share here and Ben do we have audio let's play a little bit of the intro well let me let me give the background really quick so it's a company called play.ht
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um but and one of their side projects is a thing called podcast.ai and basically what they did was they gave their AI algorithm or program whatever you want to call it they gave their program uh Steve Jobs's biography uh which is and I think they actually
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gave him one or two of his biographies because there's two or two major ones then they basically gave they gave the program every single Steve Jobs recording I think ever or any that they could find on the internet along with
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every Joe Rogan episode ever and they made Joe Rogan interview Steve Jobs and in the interview it's like 25 minutes long they talk all about all types of stuff but they say some amazing things like Joe Rogan does the intro and he
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goes like he teases out the who who it is just like he does in real life he goes what's up freak which I don't even think he says anymore but he said that in all the early episodes he goes what's up freak uh today's guest is someone who's incredibly smart
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incredibly we should just play it right let it let it insufferable well he says insufferable which I thought was crazy so go ahead this podcast is brought to you by play dot HT all content is generated by artificial choice for this part listener discretion
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is advised hello freak welcome to another episode of the Bro jogan experience and on this episode I welcome my friend who's difficult to describe I'm fascinated by him and I hope you'll be too and he is weird and Brilliant and
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sometimes totally insufferable but my guest today has made some of the great technological products of our age and he's always pushing the envelope in Innovation like for example with his next computer he developed a new
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programming language and operating system and then he became even more famous for making three applications for that computer uh word processor spreadsheet and an image editor that just showed me that this dude was brilliant had amazing taste and I would
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just hope that I could be even like one tenth of the genius that my friend today is and I can't even say his name so yeah so super psyched about having him in the house today first time or yeah we've had you on before but not for a long time
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like Patrick Swayze and um Demi Moore and ghost you're a memory from the past [Laughter] so without further Ado my friend who is difficult to describe and wonderful and I'm so grateful he came on the show how's it going good to see you buddy
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it's been a long time since I've been on the show I've missed this it's always fun wow like just pause there okay so the things that like first the voice quality the voice quality is incredible like that sounds just like Joe Rogan it
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sounds just like Steve Jobs it is it has gotten so much better than like how this used to be I remember like you know when you had like the Garmin GPS in your car and you could like choose the Morgan Freeman Voice or whatever like any time
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you'd have like this voice robot that I was trying to say something new it sounded totally computerized and this doesn't so the voice quality is one thing the fact that it kind of like it makes more sense it makes more sense
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than it should like he's doing an intro it understands that he's teasing like this my friend who's here today this person's a genius but not saying who it is and what it is right away that's like a Showmanship thing that I thought was like really interesting
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um the back and forth banter like he gives that long intro and then Steve Jobs just kind of laughs um like you would if you had sat down for this kind of interview with Joe Rogan I just thought that was incredible the way it felt like a real conversation
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and obviously there's some stuff that's like you know he's talking about word processors and documents and a little too much like nobody would do that but like damn if 80 of that is not amazing and the reason I felt emotional listening to
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this was it's I felt both like in awe but also scared because as I was listening to this it I was agreeing with what Steve says and uh what we'll do in in a second uh Ben is fast forward like maybe 10 minutes in and basically jobs
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goes on this long rant about LSD saying uh you know LSD changed my life and I don't think it's for everyone but it changed my life and it opened my mind up and let me read all these books I never previously would have read and he says
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something like I don't I wouldn't take LSD a bunch of times in a row because I only needed it once or twice and it opened my mind and it introduced me and he goes in depth he goes it introduced me to India and it's just he talks about
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he's talking about God he's talking about like all kinds of things that you're like it's not just like reading a Wikipedia page you know what I mean like uh it's very philosophical he's like when people think about God they think about this
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but to me it's and it's like well that's a fully formed thought and philosophy and like that sounds like something somebody would say when they're having like an in-depth podcast and not just like I did this in 1979 in March when I
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was living in Albuquerque and then in 1981 I once again it was wasn't that it was like a very real sounding thing and he has this amazing did you hear there's this beautiful quote that he says and basically the way that this company if
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you ever listen to a bunch of Steve Jobs interviews you'll notice that at points it almost sounds like they're just chopping up some of his clips and just weaving them together because he has talked about this before so I don't
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actually know if he's ever said this particular line before but he starts talking about India and why he loves like uh that part of the world and he basically says like well it's so old and it influenced the rest of society and he
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goes there's an Indian epic that's ten times as long as the Bible the Quran and all these other things coming out of the Odyssey yeah that's what he says yeah he's like basically Indian history influence the rest of the world and
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there's an epic that's ten times as long as all these other books and I just thought that that's just like such an interesting thing he does so he doesn't say the name so it kind of leaves you wanting there but he is talking about the the Gita which is like is I think
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that long it's like a 16 part series or whatever it's like this really really long thing I would bet that it actually is multiples longer than the Iliad and the Odyssey so I I feel so interesting that he said that and this
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is the point is that when he said that I said I gotta find that book like he just sold me on this book he influenced you yeah the dead jobs influence me so Ben click play just for like 30 seconds but there is some kind of deeper meaning to
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life and it can't just be something that somebody made up because if it was it wouldn't be compelling it would seem contrived and everyone would see through it so I think that the meaning and the purpose is by the cosmos the nature of
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the cosmos which is pretty bold thinking I mean I don't know how else to put it but it's not religious in the way people usually talk about taking LSD was a profound experience for me LSD shows you that there's another side to the coin and you can't remember
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it when it wears off but you know it it washes over you and tells you that everything is connected you're not here by accident you were put here for a purpose and if you can figure out what that is then you'll learn more about
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yourself than anything else could it's pretty intense so so that quote is a real quote of his technology was a profound experience one of the most important things in my life it shows you that there's another side of the coin you can't remember it when it wears off
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but you know it okay so that is like an actual quote of his but it's weaved into the conversation like there's a part in the conversation where he where he says he's talking about how he's a fan of Joe Rogan he's like it's nice to just sit
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back in the car and listen to you rant and it's like okay so the first one where he's the the LSD you know okay he they just took a they just took you know his Goodreads section or his quotes and they're like okay cool he's he says
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things like this but where did how did it know to say to Joe Rogan that I love to listen to your podcast and the car just love to sit back and listen to your rant where would that have come from how how does that happen that is there's like little
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moments like that that are like I just don't understand this technology well enough to know how it could know to say something like that in that moment so the first half of the call he talks all about India and these like kind of
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platitude like life advice type of things which were pretty amazing but then the second half which bench just started playing a little bit this he talks about Google and they actually say Yahoo Ron they call it yahoo uh they put
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the emphasis on the wrong syllable but they uh he's he like does all these like says all these interesting quotes which I actually think are things that he said again in the past but he says stuff like you know that's the problem I've always
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had with Microsoft in many ways they're smart people and they've done good work but they've never had any tastes they've never had any aesthetic taste and then he goes on and he talks about Adobe and he criticizes adobe's business model and
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he goes uh Joe Rogan actually says what would you do to fix Adobe and job says well they've got 800 people working on adobe's business model that's just way too many people and the fact that they charge just a little bit of money for a
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small bits of the product it's like buying a car but only getting part of the car and having to pay more money to get the rest of the engine and he like says these criticisms about Adobe which frankly have no idea if it's true but it
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must have went on like a rant about this you know in the past but and and then he goes you know I had a lunch recently with Bob whatever at Adobe he like says their full name and he leads up this part of adobe and he actually agreed to me that they need to fix it and they're
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working on fixing it and so anyway he like actually gives almost more advice and his opinions on what I think are current events I'm not well versed enough with Adobe but it seems like current events it's pretty magical
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it's amazing yeah this basically was like bring bring back someone from the dead technology band do you have anything to add your uh you're a history guy what did this like do you have anything that you felt when you when you watched this
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I really agree with Sam it made me oddly emotional uh listening to it it also scared me a little bit just because I thought of the application of like what if like you did this to my grandpa and like what emotions would that bring back
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and then that like frightened me of like oh I don't know if that's a good thing to be able to experience like there's a representation my grandpa that would feel like the real thing but isn't right like where are these thoughts coming from so it's equal parts like
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really compelling really cool as like a treat to be able to hear well I think it's like a pretty accurate representation of how Steve Jobs would approach some of these things that are happening today but then also just like
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scary to realize but it's not really him and what is it really well so let me it's like a video right today you could watch a home video and it's like you see their face you hear their voice it's captured a moment in time to me this is an extension of that which
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is like now it's gonna be somewhat interactive that you can kind of interact with these people or hear them talk about new things uh and you know that it's not like the real thing but it's you know there's a black mirror episode that's a lot like this where the woman like uploads her boyfriend's Consciousness to like you know this robot she's kind of still dating him even though uh you know he's gone but like there's like the shadow of him that
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like you know can can simulate him um and I think I think there's more good than bad um Sam what do you want to say yeah so let me add two points about why this is going to give it even stranger well the first point is is is almost scary so
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basically in 1985 here this is a quote from Steve Jobs he goes my hope is someday when the next Aristotle is alive we can capture the underlying world view of that Aristotle in a computer and someday some student will not be only be
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able to read the words Aristotle wrote but ask Aristotle a question and get an answer and so Steve Jobs wrote that in 85 which is interesting now here's where things get really interesting because that's that's what he is what he's what
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just happened what he just described is what just happened to him it's magical now here's where things are going to get even more magical so play dot is it play dot AI or play dot HD uh so uh part of their website you can actually vote for
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new episodes and some of the top episodes that people have voted for is Elon Musk interviewing uh Nikola Tesla Kanye West and Bob Marley talking about music Jesus interviews God and then I believe there's Einstein and Buddha having a conversation on science and
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spirituality um Trump interviews himself Trump interviews himself there's Lex Friedman interviewing Richard Feynman and then there's uh Joe Rogan mediates peace between Russia and U.S and that sounds like a joke and it is a joke but it's
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actually an interesting tool where you're like well like let's hear Joe Rogan alert let's see if Joe Rogan can like bring together these two people different people and hear each other's perspective and we'll actually find out
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where one another's coming from even if it's make-believe and but it will still be like maybe that is actually how they feel and I could work through this argument so that's why this stuff is actually really really interesting and Powerful [Music]