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it sounds ridiculous I'm happy I'm happy with the result man it's I had so much fun at the studio sounds like a dude [Music] I'm trying to put something new man in the table I mean not new because you know everything is invented already it's
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just new how about you yeah yeah you haven't picked that up you know you haven't picked it up and played with it no no this first time that I'm I've been playing with this color musically see we get too preoccupied with what everyone else did before and should we do it but
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by the very nature of the fact that you picked up those toys and played with them means it's new yeah yeah for sure yeah I I try to you know like analyze my career you know and all the music that I that I do I try every year just just being
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um creating new things you know I don't want to be stuck in the same you know pattern every project that I'm gonna do is it's gonna be totally different from the past also you know um you'll you'll see my my essence you know like you see
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reggaeton and you know Alejandro you know Essence and all that stuff but you always gonna find like a new thing to listen to you know like a new a new Vibe thank God man do you have that instinct you know I think a lot of
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artists not for any other reason except it's it's the way it's wired the way the scene is wired is when something works when you find an audience and you build it and you achieve something that oh all right well it works it works yeah and
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you're like well it's always going to work it exists yeah how can I push myself that's that I think that's the hard part you know and you know a lot of artists they just fall in um comfort zone yeah yeah you know for me that's like a
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danger song you know like I don't I don't want to be in a comfort zone creatively yeah yeah because because you know I'm sure that with success comes comfort you seem to have a great life and a comfortable life and a life that you've earned that right yeah I mean
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like and it helps you now like other resources that you have it helps you you know just be more creative and you got time to put in your project back in the days you don't have time because you were like hustling at the same time so now you can chill a little bit but you
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can put all your mind and energy energy in it so who was that kid who was that kid before trap cake who's that kid that was like now you have the time and the resources and the confidence support to make an album as Broad and inventive as
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this but back then you were just running on Instinct yeah right and hunger yeah like I that I was going to say that a hungry boy like super hungry boy man um I was everywhere I was working three jobs same time at the studio studying at
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the same time then you know a quick a quiz cool I focus on just how'd that go it was hard it was hard you know it was hard on your folks hard in your family yeah yeah because you know it's a risk you know your family they always hope to
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one of the kids God graduate and you know have a you know a great great job because it means something when it's on the wall at this point right especially when you come from an environment where your family fights for everything to
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give the up you give you your children the opportunity to to continue to extend to live a better life than the before and a better life and a better life that diploma that sits on the wall it's like we did that together as a family it's a family achievement it's a family
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achievement and you know I always had that in mind you know I was focused in the studies and you know I I did this promise to my mom yeah I'm gonna finish I'm gonna finish oh man but um life life is something crazy you know and um yeah honorary diplomas through
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success now bro I gotta do is yeah I gave her another diploma in music so see you know we got it we got it because what it really says is I went my own way but I I achieved the same if not more doing it this way than I would have done
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if I'd stayed within the structure because what did you learn about the system you decided to leave the the education system which is designed to send you out of the structure it's a structured environment everybody answers the same questions yeah everybody sits
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in the same exams at the end of it you're supposed to emerge with some identity and individuality yeah yeah I totally I talk with my family and you know I've been I'm really close with my mom and she like she understood you know like
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she she knew my I was so focused on on do music and she she saw my my discipline you know every day you know um and she she went with me full out too you know she that's awesome give me that support I think that helps a lot all the new artists you know when
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you have a family support I think that helps you a lot particularly it's Unique when you when you come from I'm not saying anything about your relationship or from the from from a male side of things but you just said you're a mum's
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boy I'm a mom's boy yeah yeah for sure man what did you what did you what do you think is you've matured and and built relationships and and formed friendships and whatnot that you've that you've taken from that special relationship with your mom what what is
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in you from that relationship that allows you to be the best version of yourself my original my mom is is just it creates who I am you know she creates who I am like she raises me and she she give me all the tools in life
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and I I know for sure that that reflects on other people and my my mentorno you know my around all my friends my team um my day life you know it's you just reflect my relationship with my mom and I think you know I feel blessed about that and now we're here you know Saturn
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was the name of the project um and it's it feels very visible to me it feels very it feels like a universe I don't feel like this is an album of songs or a mixtape or whatever I feel like this came from Madness almost like like creative
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Madness is the way I want to describe it technically I I can say I I've looked I've liked to saturna and I was there for a while you know damn you're on some good yeah you know wow like for two months and then God bless modern day modern day
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and then I was significant some significant safe developments in that world now you know I mean you can really go and experience it you know man like yeah we found these new sounds so what was the starting point for this for this because like I said we've we we you've
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got this this collection that you build on you've got your volumes you know um you've made individual records that feel like proper stakes in the ground but this feels like like I said this feels like you've gone far deeper into
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your Creative Vision than ever before no yeah for sure I think so far this is my best project so far I hope the next one is better and better you know but yeah after before my first album and then vice versa it was a huge um he had a huge success we thought at
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the and you know it was a great great album too I was like okay what's next I was touring my last you know my my last tour vice versa in the middle of the tour I was thinking of the new album and I was missing you know I was was missing something and
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I figured out that in doing the tour I was looking for something more energetic more upbeat more you know hardcore um because my music is a little bit mellow you know sometimes you know so I was looking for something darker and
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you know I like to I like to dance I like to be jumping around and I say like I don't know if I'm Gonna Be Dancing my whole life because you know you get oh use it while you can you say why you can't you know so I was like you know what next two I'm gonna do my my
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crazies move my crazies show um because I don't know if I'm you know I'm gonna do it like for a long you know so I'm gonna give it all so I was looking for that type of you know energy musically speaking and um I started doing my mood board and
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look reference and start you know creating the ideas and you know I decided to to fly back to the 90s and um there's a crazy just you know this is so so much good music back in the 90s it connects with my my young me again and uh sense if anything's
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possible yeah that's what I get from this music is like it's like it's almost like you're searching for Uncharted planets it's like it's it's like you and that's what I take from those from that time is especially when and in the 80s when
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synthesizers were invented yeah and no one knew how to use them that's why it sounds so weird yeah and especially the same time exactly you know with all the resources that we have now all the you know technology in the softwares and programs like you know you
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can make a huge mix of like all sounds and new sounds and I don't know that's the most fun part you know being in the creative process what's cool about this is that you haven't leaned into what's possible entirely like you could have taken that
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inspiration and made something with the technology and software that's available to you now that it's just loses some of that naivety and some of that kind of weirdness yeah what's amazing about the title track I just dropped a little bit
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of before don't blow up your spot leaked that on Tick Tock in real time kidding but uh what's awesome about that is it has that it has that weirdness about it it's like you weren't afraid to put things in there that are displaced yeah it's I
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think do you know what I mean yeah like the way you use your name in that track is so authentic from that period yeah no man I mean I think it's about that you know though I think I like weirdness yeah I'm a big fan of weirdness you're a weird
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guy you're a weird guy yeah I'm a weird guy I can say that for sure and I know my fans too they like that that awareness and I'm this type of artist yeah that always when it comes with a project it comes with something new and I just want to be that person
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you know in my my career that offers uh something different I I try to not go with the with the wave I tried to you know create my own way yeah you're still on it and this is what's interesting about you is is that a lot of artists who have that
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that mindset that you have of wanting to Swerve hard every time that your audience catches up to you we'll give something away over time whether it's a seat at the award show that didn't happen eight Award nominations billboard
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Loud Music Awards congratulations right or it's success that ain't happen your math is absolutely crazy and off the hook and your numbers just go bigger to bigger you're like two three four five x every single time so that's happening right yeah I'm happy thank you
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so fast what that tells me is that you're a willing Outsider who constantly finds himself inside that room you have the success of somebody who plays the game but you don't play the game so what does success feel like to you do you
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hang around with it or do you just nah I'm out I don't look at it that way I don't know man I think yeah I don't I don't look it that way I I just do you know I follow my intuition my my hey my feeling yes when you feel when I feel it I think like I need to go for it
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I cannot quit you know I cannot go to to all the side I need to stick to that that thing that makes me feel like that um and with this project and with all my music you know I I do it with my heart I do it I put my heart on the table so
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and I put all the Fate on it and and all the bets like high bets like all right I bet this to this song and whoa I don't know I didn't I didn't miss yet thank God you know what's crazy I don't know how to say that but yeah it's perfect you know like I follow my
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intuition I don't know you remind me so much of somebody and it makes total sense because you're with them she's exactly the same Rose is exactly the same it's crazy yeah she's like that she's like that right and when you talk to her she's just
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unapologetically dedicated to creative authenticity irrespective of what happens when it's done no and I think we got the same YouTube talking about music must be something else now in the studio I think we got crazy chemistry you know yeah
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I understand her she understand me yeah and I think that's you know we respect each other at this at the studio yeah she's like but she knows what she wants as well right yeah she makes that super clear yeah super clear so I tried to not
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you know don't fight about it and and she also knows my ideas too like when I'm with one idea like she don't say nothing she just followed too like I think that's that's a special how do you um how do you relate to one another creatively
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with each other's music I mean I don't know if she's credited on this album whether she just is a part of it anyway because you guys have got such a strong no yeah I mean like you get inspired of of your you know your cup your couple and vice versa too and
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it's like a mix of everything and [Music] um is it here's the thing sometimes I go to the studio she's she's doing something and I say like oh put this or by or she say oh put this and then like even we don't give credit to each other like
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this life it's just like it's just like yeah then you get money everything needs to be credited sometimes it's nice just to actually share something because it sounds better no I mean yeah yeah but like like for us it's just something natural like and and we're not
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thinking about credits we're not thinking about who or who did this who did that like which is like you said live a life we live together so it's like you get so mixed and I can say she inspired me a lot like like last last year she inspired me a lot to do music I
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I learned with her she learned with me like us we got different sauce um but I think that's especially you know and um it reflects through through our music I can't think of too many people who have any kind of relationship as close
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as the two of you clearly do who are pushing the boundaries the way you do individually like it's it's crazy like you're right it's just a perfect it's a perfect I don't know about you personally and I'm sure it's brilliant but that just as a music fan
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it's like you're perfect for each other you know because just like use like both just pushing into new territory all the time no I mean I'm happy we're really happy uh yeah and um that's awesome man yeah we and we're not not rushing
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neither to do music together because you know you live with that person you don't have any rush and um I know when the time comes we're gonna do a great great job have you dabbled though if you guys got things in things that muck around and kind of just
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just make even just make beats together and just yeah that must be the most fun thing ever just sitting around like you got so much ideas in the in our in their house and I was absolutely blown away when I heard this music thank you just blown away thank you my friend I'm
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trying I'm trying our best and I know with this project is it's gonna be something different um you always have I always have this small fear and I'm afraid of what oh you know my fans are gonna oh my God all right because let's see if we can
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understand how but at the same time I got a lot of you know secure I'm secure myself that I know they gonna love it now that you've got that ultimately any small part of your audience that are uncertain about where you stand right
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now will come to a show and you have that chance to bring it to life even more yeah right yeah this is like this album is a step towards the experience it's an experience yeah yeah it was that was the first first click to my next project it was in the middle of the tour
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and yeah I think I think I I think I did it yeah this this song that you did with baby roster as well which is sick which brings back that kind of classic right and and again just updates it and how was that for you because as a modern
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artist reworking something that has already had its moment um that's that's a real that's a real nod that's a nod in in baby roster's Direction it's no yeah I mean uh doing my career you know I I've been you know I'm a huge fan of of reggaeton
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you know like the the OG you know I respect them a lot they inspire me to do music and to be who I am right nowadays and every project you see like I got got something from the past because you know it's you always need to show respect to the people who create this
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you know or who were like involved doing this the generation they there's a lot of generation that they don't know about baby Rasta and I feel so I feel so bad about that it's like you should know guys like who's baby Rasta
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you know if you listen to reggaeton now you need to know who's baby ratag Ringo who's player or who's the noise all these like all guys like who create the the underground and they they were a huge part of the reggaeton name you know the the the movement
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so doing this album I was like yo if I if I'm gonna fly back to the 90s I need to call the the guys you know like I need to be with them I need to connect with them I need to understand them and and just um they they are gonna the ones are gonna
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approve this project you know and um that's what's so good about you dude so good no I'm serious like you do the work you don't just decide this is gonna be the the the style of the album you go back and you do the actual research yeah that's fine with the real
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artists you same thing you just did in Puerto Rico no went and spent time on the ground bro 100 I need I need I think that's that knowledge and that's that that's that helps me um grow as an artist and as a producer and as a musician and like he helps me
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get to where I'm at right now so every every project I I need to learn what I'm doing I need to you know connect with the fundamentals of you know each Rhythm that I'm doing the story everything and um I can understand
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them more you know I I just figured it out you actually outgrew education you are you're you're a good student right well yeah average I think uh yeah but with deep curiosity yeah I mean yeah when I I remember that everything that I liked I put
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100 of concentration uh the other things where I'll get distracted so quick but when something you know like I like something real I go 100 go 100 yeah yeah it's the Curiosity which is super interesting I mentioned before about about um your response to
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um the hurricane to Linda um and the fact that but so giving and sharing and being a part of solutions is really important but there's layers to it so if you go on you follow a link and I've done this and I've done this in this particular
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case and you donate money everything helps right but for you that was never going to be enough you went home and you actually researched what was needed yeah rather than just assume and that's a huge thing no man like I definitely I think I feel more
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comfortable just knowing where my stuff are going that just just sending money I'm not saying that it's not bad you know it's like I said there's like there's levels to this and I I remember too you know I was I wasn't a hurricane Maria 2017 in PR I was still
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working you know I was I wasn't big I was in Fame I was in route yet I was just a local artist and we bro like we had like a bad bad time I was two months with my family no power no water um it was crazy you know like you don't
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forget that you don't forget that never and then um five years later you know it comes this hurricane against Puerto Rico I was just remembering the my days there like two months without power and water so let's do something about the power
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you know let's let's figure it out and then now that in I'm in this position you know that that could help for sure for sure I was a hundred percent I call my my money I said I bro I'm Gonna Cancel why we have this week let's go five Puerto Rico we need to do something because
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I was thinking every day myself in that situation and it gave me like anxiety you know like I was feeling I was in Puerto Rico when I was feeling that I was there so we did our plan um and you gave generators yeah we we did a a good plan
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and still it just it helps a little bit but it's just a small percent you know um it's it's it's never like you know like it takes months to be back again to normal and um I've never been in a hurricane of that scale I've been in some Cyclone weather I've
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seen some weather but I've never experienced that kind of um where it's where it's caused that much damage and to your point anxiety to the community and to the song to the infrastructure yeah it's it's horrible it's horrible because you don't know if your house is gonna
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like support that you know like you have you know you have faith oh this this is good but you don't know and then so many people think that way and then the next day when they woke up or they they see the house that it's not there it's it just
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flew out and um and man it's it's hard bro it's hard it's uh you know I always at the same time I always try to be positive in the bad days so I have good memories also of course you know being a hurricane is like I remember when I was strong and
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like the family gets together no signal like you know your phone there's no you start like playing like uh table games um you connect more with your family and with your neighborhood like so I don't know man God's plan is is something
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different you know and um and let me ask you this I'm glad you mentioned that the idea of God's plan not even idea the belief of God's plan that God is with you and will ultimately guide you through the good times and the bad yeah
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to what is essentially your purpose from beginning to end um when you have those bad days when you have those days when I'm assuming you do because we all do oh all of all of us do you lean into your relationship with God more or do you find it hard sometimes to
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communicate with God because you're lacking that sense of motivation and desire to achieve I try um I tried to I tried to connect with with God like often you know like I try to not go to a way you know like life it's like uh like a crazy river you know and
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something some days you're here something you're there like but I try you know in my good days and bad days I try to be connected with God you know um I think my mama always my my mom my grandma my grandmother say oh everyone's looking for God in the bad
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days how about the good days you know yeah so that's gratitude that's what that is that is basically you know I agree I have this in my mind since I was little and you know I tried to reconnect with him even my good days you know bad days and
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good days so I'm not perfect but you know I try to just to be there that's why I think having faith in something apart from bringing you closer to a community and helping you find Solutions as a family as a community that's I think one of the
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great things that comes from faith-based structure is that you're not alone we can find Solutions together right of course and I think as well is it keeps a lot of the stuff that can overwhelm us and check and allow us to focus on our purpose of course which for you is
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Art all right creativity yeah I think you say it like perfect I think he helps you just to be focused in your purpose in life and you do it and I do it like I don't know I'll do it it feels good to do it I don't feel this pressure about
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work I don't feel this you know tension in the studio deadline not none of that I feel not well now you know like three years ago four years it was a crazy rush but now it feels like I can be you know the studio myself and you know nobody nobody texting me I'm
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not refined airplane mode what was probably the biggest what's the biggest thing that you've that you've learned about yourself so far since you've been releasing music what's probably the biggest thing that you could sit there
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with a bit of altitude and take a look at your experience and go that's not who I was that's I'm not who that person was anymore I've left that lift that behind hey man that's a good question uh I'm sorry did you think you were coming in here we're just gonna
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like kick and talk about snares and kick drums bro this is like I've been waiting for this one bro for this one man it's a good one man I came in from I came and prepped for sure for sure bro I learned a lot um how to do things how to move
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how to be happy are you good at no saying no I think I started doing that now yeah you know yeah I think when you say no it's like you need to know your your body you need to know your mind it just saves room for Yes man like you need to have time for
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yourself and um if not you're gonna like you're gonna explode man you're like we're humans we're not like a machine yeah I think in my mouth I was a machine but like it's impossible you know to have this this hustling spirit for
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50 years or it's impossible man like it's good to have this mentality of being better every year but with time you need to like chill a little bit because you're not if not you're gonna like how do you prepare to record your vocals do you have a
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process is there a time of day is there a mood is there a feeling is there a time when you eat don't eat how do you know when your voice your instrument is going to be at its best to capture the essence of the song yo I'm saying I I
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don't really know that question man it's just I just go it can be you just turn it on yeah I mean it can be any time any hours so annoying for sure yeah for sure I for sure I don't like to eat before I right before I'm gonna record you know
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um I've been taking vocal classes um thanks to my girl she like she always like you need to practice more okay I'll do it I'll do it she told you to get your Technique right yeah she uh she practices her vocals every day with her with her um Professor because she came
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from that discipline before she became this kind of creative Force she was the person studying that and she told me like when you would have to go to to to like school or whatever they were like I'm on time I'm the other way I I start the creative uh-huh without any
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technique and discipline yeah and then with time I start you know finding my way to the studies and disciplining you know the talent and the creative part you have it in your mind but you need to know the fundamentals and the techniques
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to for for be a better artist and because that's the thing people don't really remember I think at least new fans who are at the at the arena shows right now some of them don't realize that she came from that structure no no not too many people
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knows and she's been like more than 10 years yeah studying you know she could have had an incredible career in the Arts without even being like that Rosalia as we know it yeah right she could have stayed there no yeah in a
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traditional space yeah and survived very well she inspired man um yeah I started like you know I started practicing my vocal I do warm-ups and um I tried to do it alone because he's so embarrassed but yeah yeah but that's the point because it's
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it's teaching you how to how to how to not phrase through the with the shape of your mouth yeah I started start training my vocals and now I feel like you know I have more control breath control yeah I got more control my vocals and um I'm not too picky neither you know it's
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all depends uh the flavor that you're looking there's artists like like Rosie she's like she records like a thousand buckles and then she's like yeah yeah yeah you know picking the person the perfect one I'm like I record like five
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and I was like all right I like that one it's good let's go oh my gosh this must be just like going crazy you must just be like how can you let that go like that what are you doing but I get it man it's all feel at the end of the day yeah it makes you feel
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it's about feelings man it's about feeling for sure and this album is about that and um yeah but this album is also to a point it's about energy energy it's energy where did the actual title come from because obviously we know the astrological relevance and
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the importance of it and and we know that the interplanetary you know relationship so what inspired you to go into outer space you know this this type of sounds is kind of like in this special Vibe you know like Universe Vibe this
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synth and all these weird sounds are like aliens but it's also a great synth called the Saturn which is like you know so I I don't I mean what's a tuna because talking about my mom again I remember to say oh you live in Saturn or like yeah
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you have your mind all the time like that's what she used to say yeah she always having her like you know because I was out of this always been distracted yeah also talking about astrological yeah it helps me um I'm not too much of the commercials
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horoscope yeah yeah yeah I'm not too into it but it's fun at the same time I'm I'm Capricorn and tatuno is the the planet of of Capricorn and um you know it's a it's a I started you know just doing some reading about something is a planet of nostalgic and
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melancholic is having melancholic and nostalgic Planet so I was like yo which makes sense for someone who reflects a lot yeah it makes a lot of sense and um you know you got some weird I got I was I was in a weird trip with saturno I was
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like studying different stuff and a lot of ideas in my mind yo I got Saturn because of this this I can be explaining why I choose saturno and and you see like you're gonna think like oh this guy is like on on drugs or something man
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also I'm uh you know I'm a big fan of Bruce Lee you know Bruce Lee yeah of course he said like oh it was like water be like water in there the water is you know careful you're gonna become an expert in this field before you know it better than the master you know
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how the videos looking for this project you having fun bro I'm having fun so much fun I think it's the you know it's the best visually um it's the you know the best investment and best everything you know I mean a great position in my career so I'm like
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putting all my my my pocket is you know it's like screaming right now yeah yeah yeah but you're investing in yourself you know if you stop man stop yo take it easy no but I'm like I'm putting everything there like we have some more fun um and
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um all the videos that we're doing we're going we're going hard we're going big when are we gonna see you in a film like like Wednesday wins wins the real when's the real like like Cinema movie you Cruise behind you smiling they don't
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know what's gone come on man you can't you can't not do that and you're gonna do some film work from proper like acting like film like I think yeah you know what I did one it's coming out in in January Call Me a Genius how did I know in January well you can't talk
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about it no I mean I'm allowed to say that you know that I'm acting and I did I did I did something with Sky Rojo it's a like a production from Vancouver um it's a Spain company they did the the money height and um it was fun man it was fun and um
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you'll see a little bit of raw off you know I can't wait man you've got so much to do in your life bro and um let's make sure that we we say we you know we continue to have these kind of conversations because um I'm really inspired by that by your
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curiosity and your approach to life and you're clearly raised brilliantly by you know by your family by your mum Yeah man so your foundation is outstanding and that's why I guess they're confident for yeah the confidence to go ahead and make
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bold creative decisions like this like you like we talk about God's plan you know and um I'm happy of of my results and new album you know I'm really really happy of this new album and God's got you in his part in the pocket right now man beautiful I'm blessed [Music]