it just feels too good man it just feels too good what's going on bud man same old same how you not even close I'm not even buying that default answer not even close same old same are you serious listen to what you made bro and I know I don't know when you finished it but I'm just hearing it and music changes shape over time man and uh for me it feels like a Timeless one how is it how is it
changing shape for you listen to it now versus when you made it it's just one of those ones bro you can just listen to that over and over again that's like really what I'm into these days and it seems as though like um it seems like that's what we as musicians would want all the time yes and we and we do but there's just certain like pockets in your life of moments when um You Feel the Rush and you feel the
intensity and you feel the magnetism of something that makes you want to listen to it over and over and over again and that isn't always the case even if you're making it even if you're making them joints that like you know want to put on repeat it it the desire and the hunger for it isn't always level some you know it like it has its valleys and Peaks and right now I'm just like ravenous it raises a really interesting
question about the relationship between the music that you make and and the small window you have to listen to it with fresh perspective right almost from a Fan's perspective and then the releasing of the music to us as fans and we get to live with it forever and and I I don't know man it's like it feels like that tiny little moment that you have when it's just yours it's kind of special well when you make it and then
you listen to it in the web like you know that's when you know at stop lights you know stop lights on the highway like that's when you just know and this is just one of them ones it's because it's also also here in Travis in rare form you know it's a 68 dance record midtempo it's like you know just hearing him and and in their Zone just like it's great and this is something I think that we as as people continually
underestimate about Trav is just how much of an adventurer he is and a traveler he is and how much he wants to go explore new musical terrain people love to keep him in his antidote they love to keep him in his Pick Up The Phone Zone you know but it's not like he he's really like into like some fire yeah 100% And like when he commits to it it it it just he he brings what he brings to it because like when I when I
played it for him I wasn't sure uh he was in the mood for that but I knew he could do it because I'm you know I made it for him but I knew that he could do it I didn't know whether he was gonna be in the mood for that right because a lot of our music is is led by mood [Music] um and he just he just Dove right in and you know we had been on the high ever since like you know he recorded it that night
like it's just something we just listen to over and over and over again I mean how many times have you heard it oh man I put it on yesterday I ran downstairs and you won't mind me doing this cuz I'm at home and no one else is here I played it to my kid who had already heard the leak who would just Sayang it back to me word for word and then I I was like all right you've heard I was like you've
heard it and he goes not all of it keep playing it listens to it then we listen to it TW again then I went upst listen to it again to ask you a question probably a dozen times since yesterday there we go there we go it's it's infectious man that's the way I would describe um that's the way I would describe um that song it's infectious you talked about mood and um it's funny you know when uh you know you've got
something that somebody can rise to that can can lean into that's special that's going to be special but you recognize that the mood isn't there necessarily at the beginning of the session or at the beginning of the day how do you know when it's it's worth pushing forward or when you have to park that and pivot when it's already unique that's like 50% of it the other 50% is to make it undeniable yeah and so
when you when you got that first 50% like okay this is a very different direction and no one's doing this then it's worth fighting for and sometimes you get all the way to you get all the way to 80% but you're not there so that means it's just not ready but you know the SK you know 50% the skeleton is different so now it's just on you to like complete it with the flesh you described Instinct and diligence
perfectly there Pete thank you he said you made it for for for Trav you made this for Trav and you make your music for everybody but you could have gone in multiple directions when you knew you had time with Travis why did you decide to go into as you said a 68 midtempo dance group cuz I wanted to hear him in another space that's my job my job is to push I think that's my purpose on this
planet is to push push in different categories push in design push in songwriting push in production push in [Music] um you know push in Innovation push not in politics but push in community um push and Entrepreneurship um you know and and and most importantly push spiritually and push Within Myself to be a better person you know for me in in my job it's not even a job in my passion
the a lot of the Curiosity and the and the true greatness is in the silences I used to think it was in the questions and the answers but it's actually in the space in between the collecting of the thoughts where where does it exist for you when you're in the room where is the unspoken magic where does it where does it hide in contemplation it's where it's the magical space and time where ideas are received and formulated
it's where all the magic happens it's before your finger ever plays one one note it's what you just said it's that s it's that silence it's that space where like the universe sends you something you know I been I been man I just I just calculated the other day I thought I I thought you know it's only done 20 something years but you know rum Shaker came out like I'm not sure if it was August or
October might have been August August 25th 1992 I need to figure that out it's been 30 years since I've released something commercially you know my first thing you know we went double Platinum so you know Tedy and you know um and also uh Rex and effects like man they I was so grateful to be able to write on something like that um and it's been 30 years 30 years of like I really you know I really write I really produce
I really like compose like I really do this bro like I really do it and I really love it you know I really love this and and so you know when you you know I'm up here right now talking about down in Atlanta with Travis Scott it's like play with me man this is what I do bro this is what I do you know what I'm saying like and I and i' be trying to be cool you know what I mean I'd be trying to be
cool are we trying to be cool man and I and I'm gonna I'm gonna because that's my job but be clear this is what I do this is what I love to do this is what God gave me you know what I'm saying and nobody I'm not gonna let um listen my gift will not never be spoken down upon I will do everything in my power to highlight it because that's my job we we we we as we as um as human beings I don't know if
you notice but we emit 14 to 20 photons just Naturally by sitting there but when we're in state of contemplation we can emit up to 100,000 photons this is what why they call it Enlightenment yo we are different and it's not my fault if you don't know that you're fire you know what I'm saying but I know what I am I know what God put in me I know I'm a flame I know it not just cause get burnt
getting too close but I know but but but because I'm here to light a light that's my job bro it's not my problem if you don't understand that that's that was your job as well you know what I'm saying I'm here to light a light I got to ask you this I've never asked you this you rais something and the question popped into my head I'm going to honor it it's been 30 30 years since since Rump Shaker which we all knew as rap
fans and music fans was an instant Banger and the remixes that came out and everything that came out and rolled around that song just kept it on the dance floor for a solid year y but you've spoken openly about your adoration and admiration for tribe and have become close to all members of tribe over the course of their lives both present and now in spirituality so as a child and as a fan of tribe when that lyric came out about
hardcore rap how did you feel as the creator of the song fresh out the gate in a commercial world but the but being an Uber fan of the crew that that you were being drawn towards through manifestation and through gravity and there was that brief disconnection between where you stood and where they were at do you ever think about that my love for tribe was always unwavering and when they got into that
whole dispute and there was that whole issue like that broke my heart I was like you don't understand like Q-tip is the king yeah Teddy at the time knew that he knew that he knew how it felt like Q-tip was the king bro those guys those guys that whole native tongue organization set so many of us free it's a golden era man it it really is yeah man yo we were skateboarding at that time kings and
queens like spiritual kings and queens who changed the game forget it bro all of them yeah at the time at the time I was skating De La Soul tried um um Tribe Called Quest um Jungle Brothers you know Black Sheep Latifa was in there KMD was in there love yo listen all of them bro all of them and leaders was in there too yeah all of them all of that energy set us free set us free bro we was we were we
were skateboarding at the time and like you know there wasn't many of us that rep that representation was not like out there like that you know so like they were like the freest of the freest so it's like we were listening to that but we were still listening to like some of the other stuff that my other skater friends would listening to they listen to like a lot of punk you know Black Flag uh dead Kennedy's mind a
threat that kind of stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah I was just talking to um I was just talking to Tony Tony Hawk yesterday he was reminding me of all the stuff that they were all listening to at the time because that was their world and I was in their world that was the stuff that I would hear you know um but then like but you got to understand like why all this like amazing rap music like LL and Rundy MC
and Eric B and you know I never I never forget when Eric B for president came out I mean shook the world but then Slick Rick who everyone knows like that dude is like like a like a f deity um you know tribe and de la when they came out man for old Jenny and poth holes in my lawn all of them record bro them records and the way that they were dressing bro I never forget like one of my homeboys and Independence
Junior his name was Moshe Bryant yo he played me De La Soul for the first time he's still to I I've never connect reconnected with him I don't know where he is in life but he has no idea like he was one of the main ones that like set me on that trajectory because of that music that music changed me bro so I went through all of this to say when that happened between you know that whole thing
between tribe and and and and um and Teddy Rex and effects and posy deep like man that was that that that hurt me because I those guys were my heroes and and I didn't even think that was like a disc you know what I'm saying it just was it was just basically somebody vocalizing their their their preference but you know preferences yeah but Harlem is different bro them don't be playing no
games I also like I love production and I love making music and I love songwriting so you know as I approach my 50th orbit with a pH same right as I approach my 50th orbit this is what I want to be doing 50 bro could you even imagine we'd be still here having these conversations at 50 bro and doing it the way we want to do it however we want to do it God is the greatest look at us man look at us God is the greatest bro who'
have thought yeah God is great God is the greatest god is the greatest hey um I love the I love how every time I see you making music it's it's in this space that feels free and you're always standing and there's movement and everything's at chest height and it doesn't feel like a usual Studio which is like sit down you know and move your swivel chair around the whole thing feels very active the room feels active
is it is is that what it is is that by Design Noz this a house one um two um the vibe is just amazing and three you know um there'll be like two or three rooms going like I just go from room to room artist to artist like I love it man I'm so grateful that's a best ever you wake up knock back at chai lat go from a A to B to C and just like make magic man what a life yeah man walk in there with the flamethrowers