we've got domond met from mus it's so good to see you fellas first of all you know life like you sort of been making music and you've been kind of touring and getting ready to go out on the road again and this sort of feels like it's the eye of the storm as opposed to like the craziness absolutely yeah yeah yeah
we finished on the road like what September last year we chilled out really we're going to just relax really and do nothing did did nothing at all just relaxed down the beach and stuff you know it is here it's just lovely it's a great place to just chill and do nothing and and then the world changed and with it I changed and
suddenly I found myself in Studio writing songs and well writing this song which we're going to talk about in a minute and uh yeah so I guess found myself just unusually inspired at the beginning of the year wrote this song about what six weeks ago or something um and recorded it and it's just one of
those songs that kind of felt like you know what got we got to put this out we can't wait for like a year for for the next album you we probably we are going to do another album it won't be till like next year sometime and uh but yeah in terms of life though sticking back to life sorry before we get into music uh
life what's been going on yeah my son's going to going to go to new school with with TR Trent Res Kids is pretty amazing yeah I'm so blown away that uh that my kids going to get in a band with Trent Res Kids at some point yeah that's going to be amazing that sounds like it's going to be a good band it would be
a great band perhaps if you could get off the ground without being quite so creepy about it man I'm just say totally hi Trent it's Matt hi from the band news our kids are going to be in a band call me totally he's he's down you know he I can't remember who suggested it first actually but yeah it's going to happen
or film composers who knows but uh yeah aside from that yeah been relaxing hanging out what you been doing D yeah the same chilling out you know we finished like August September just spent a bit of time in Europe and and then a little bit over here and seeing family and friends usual stuff and do
you how often do you stay in contact with Chris you know because obviously he's based in a different part of the world and you know he has what like 53 kids now I think and you know so I mean yeah no we're in touch all the time he's been here he was here for a week last week and he came over a few times when
we started working on this song so yeah yeah we yeah we only only apart for like you know what a couple months or something and it's it's it's a long-term relationship here you know we've been married we've been married for 20 years when you've been together that long you need a bit of your own space every now
and again it's true it's true as if to further prove that point I'm going to uh dive into the you know elaborate and beautiful back catalog of Muse super massive black hole was at the turning point for you uh Matt and Dom you know and for Chris obviously as well um you know when that song came out this was
you kind of getting in the studio utilizing electronic music and really kind of like diving into that world for the first time wasn't it absolutely yeah yeah the first time we started I guess editing as a sort of uh creative form you know using using the laptop the computer whatever as a way of chopping
stuff up to make it sound cool rather than always chopping ourselves up to try and perform everything or you know organically you know being a rock band being you know instrumentalists you know it's you always sort of tend to sort of work things out musically and then just record it and try and capture it in a
very purist way it's a bit of a 90s way of thinking I guess but yeah super massive black ho was I think definitely a turning point where we realized that you know by chopping and you know making you know scratching sounds and like you know looping stuff you know for us that was like even though like we were 10
years behind the but the laptop the laptop is an instrument you I mean and and and I guess that was around about the time of making that song was when we realized that basically yeah what was it like the first time that you um you got enough of a composition out of super massive black hole enough of a mix a
monitor mix to hear what it really sounded like that kind of you know like the first time you heard that come out of the speakers try and take us back to that moment cuz those integral Cornerstone moments in ADV Van's career that is definitely you picked a good one yeah yeah for me that was yeah listening to it back it when I
got the rough mix home had a big pair of huge speakers at home I cranked it up and I was going finally man finally we're cool we actually people are actually GNA dance to this you know like actually and and not only that it had like a like a sort of sort of fun nature to it as well it felt contemporary it
felt like exactly what rock was supposed to be at that point in time you know I mean it was one of those tracks that felt like um it's really good to get outside of your comfort zone when you get in the studio and that's quite a difficult thing to do sometimes and that was certainly one of those songs where
you know we recorded in a completely different way and not like the you know traditional performance technique techniques that were us to um we got Matt and Don right here from Muse we're counting down to the first play of a brand new song called dig down which is um finds you in a a different frame of mind I think considering what's been
happening around the world now for me uh Whenever there is a a massive Global Shake um something that that changes the very fabric of being a human and everyone around the world kind of acknowledges it it could be political shift could be something that's tragic could be something that's euphoric but
you always tend to go into that subject matter in a very dark way now now what we find here in a weird way is you in somewhat of an optimistic place I think yeah yeah even I was surprised by that yeah it's uh you know we've been we've been here before a couple times I'd say early 2000s you know Absolution album uh
that definitely felt like a reaction to like you know fear of the world you know Wars wars were breaking out you know bushes in power all that kind of stuff and uh and then the sort of late 2000s you know 2009 bunch of protests going on in the UK um you know Uprising obviously came out of that you know the G20
protest brand I lived I used to see them all the time especially around the American Embassy and stuff and uh yeah and then and then again reason what's going on obviously this shift of populism shift you know this move to the right and everything that's going on that everyone's aware of um yeah but but
for some reason I guess in all of it I it might be because I'm older or might because I've Done songs that sort of you know sort of unleash the sort of the Fear Factor I wanted to put a song out that actually talks about the fact that we have this Inner Strength that's going to help us get through this difficult
period and and maybe it's because I've seen the cycle you know you've seen it um we're old enough to have seen what it felt like to live through the bush years and those Wars breaking out and you know we've kind of been through this before yeah maybe it's because I've been through it before and got through it
before and realize there is you know hope this is just a temporary period that we're going to experience that I'm able to look at it more optimistically and not not sort of think oh the world's going to end now and you took it right to the edge man I mean I sort of felt like when drones came out drones was
what you'd been building towards like everything had been driving towards the idea the concept the lyrics the music the live performances the videos drones was like this is what I've been warning you all about bam you took us to the brink of Destruction and then you've gone wait wait there's still love and
hope there yeah Underneath It All We're thrilled to be able to S up like share this moment to the release of music and I think like you know over the course of your of your journey which is like you know over 20 years now 21 years or so now you've been releasing records you've always like looked for new ways to to to
engage with your audience you one of the very first um artists along with the Trent resers of this world to create this treasure hunt type approach to getting music and it's not just the music what goes alongside the music how do you get the music how do you consume it how do you share it how you talk
about it what a secret hidden in there yeah absolutely you know yeah I mean in a weird way some I feel like the way you release music now is almost back like it was in the 1950s or 60s where it's you know you can just put pump songs out pump them out pump them out and just like and then like an album is for us
well for on this this cycle if you want to call it is going to be more about the albums at the end of it rather than the beginning do I mean so you know and it's also like we can let people in whether it be through social media or through the songs we release we can let people in on actually how we're feeling at this
point in time you know rather than sort of editing it too much and uh you know confining it too much to being like here's here's what you know a conclusion of the last years yes it's process rather than rather than a delivery ultimately yeah and I think so it's it can be a bit more it's probably going to
be a bit more diverse because that it also means Anything Could Happen musically you know I think you you know you know you haven't heard this song yet but you're here you know who knows what we're going to do next we might do something radically different we might do a collaboration if it kind of frees
you up to not for us anyway for having done so many sort of concept based albums it's nice to have a free feeling to just do a song for the sake of a song it sort of feels perfect to me for a band like yourselves I think there are certain artists who need to make a a philosophical shift in the way they
think in order to keep up with where things are going and some are trying and some are experimenting others are sort of standing perfectly still and wondering where it's going to land I sort of feel like you've always been searching for this Freedom within the way you do things and now it's almost like we've caught up caught up with what
you would have liked us to have done 10 years ago yeah yeah kind of yeah I kind of feel it's been part of what we do I mean like the second law album was was an album where we did just do every song random very differently produced differently really very experimental but we still tried to force it into an album
sort of concept you I mean whereas drones really drones really was a concept album um but looking back on Second Law I kind of like felt like you know what that's kind of the period we're about to go through now which is like just doing what's right for the song without too much concern what
connects working out you cuz I mean you don't know right ultimately you can try and come up with as D all you want but at the end of the day sometimes songs connect that you probably catch you off guard absolutely yeah I mean the way of doing it like this I mean there's something to be said for it like the the
spontaneity of it you know doing it the fact that this song is so kind of like fresh and new and releasing get so quickly it's uh that life feels really great you know because when you uh we're kind of talking about it just just uh just earlier it's like you know when you're trying to like finish an album
and trying to finish 12 Songs in in one go it kind of takes ages to finish yeah and you can end up like you know over like laboring over songs and just you know constantly you know revising them and fiddling with them but like doing it this way focusing on one song it's uh yeah it's that it's exactly that it's
totally focused and uh spontaneous and feels fresh and it's like boom there it is all right guys here we go so we're about to play the song for the first time it's called dig down before we play it where did the inspiration musically come for this particular track cuz we know lyrically where it came came from
we sort of decided to make this song really kind of almost like the three of us on a couple of laptops rather than playing our instruments you know like how we worked on that was like a couple days of us just you know arguing and fiddling over you know so we ended up having to split the as I said split the
screen in two and that that was a very different process to like being in rehearsal room with a bunch of instruments playing you know um so that that was very different process it's hard to really say where it came from apart from it did start with the I heard that Baseline in my head that's what I heard you know I I just heard
this and it was just like a pulsing hypnotic very hypnotic that would be the word I use there was something hypnotic about it like a menacing hypnotic sound that I had to create and and Domino together created that sound and you got it exactly as you heard it in your head yeah I'd say it's pretty much exactly
what I heard but so spent a long time just getting that sound and then once I had that sound I was just listening to it going what is this what what am I feeling what is this what is and I just I started putting a few chord changes in there and I was like hold on a minute This is Gospel where did gospel come
from like I I don't know how that I don't know how it went down the gospel route but it did and um and it ended up being basically this gospel electronic combo you know so gosh so it's it's this hypnotic thing and then this sort of feeling of wanting to convey a feeling of Hope and sort of
you know strength and I guess that for some reason conjured up some bizarre buried love for gospel music I didn't even know I had you know I mean and I think what you said before with that is that it starts out and I'm thinking a you're going to go double time on this it's going to go it's going to be like beautiful
people have to get real tribal on P it out but you you actually give it this restraint and you give it this delicate nature um which which really Catches Us off guard and and brings people in a different way and when you think when you listen back to that song now and you think about where it sits in the overall
picture of what Muse represents um you know it feels like not just sort of freedom for us to think for ourselves but also for you as a band to make whatever you want I feel like this is another breaking point for you yeah no I'm hoping that is the case yeah it it felt really fresh surprised how quick it
came together and it just felt so natural considering how different it was to what we just did on the Jones album you know it was it it was really sort of yeah it was a breakr emotionally as well as you said have you made a video for the record is it coming out as well yeah there's two ideas that we had that con
bur we somehow combin them together in this video one of them was do you remember Max hram you remember the yeah yeah but do you remember do you remember how someone put on a mark back in the 80s and on American TV someone put a mask on and hacked actual network television and did it and to this day
nobody knows who did it you know and the laws changed about what was you know the Pirate Radio the pirate TV sorry uh changed at that time so we loved the idea of sort of someone hacking in to news or hacking into TV or whatever uh but in addition to that we also wanted this sort of story of a capturing a
person going through some kind of real major struggle on screen but also like finding person who's actually been through a real struggle in real life to play that part and so somehow we got all these parts to come together and we found we found this amazing uh amazing lady you can take it from here kind of
follows this lady's struggle kind of fending fighting off these guys you know using Kung Fu there's a huge like Kung Fu fight scene like the greatest thing we we play kind of like a sort of modern version of Max ham hacking some futuristic TV network uh so it's it's kind of kind of s in there you know we love like ' 80s films
like RoboCop aliens hang on slow down you're talking about hang on hang on so what we're expecting is an 80s throwback Max hroom hack pirate TV RoboCop Transformers type scenario that involves everyday struggle and kung fu yesy sounds like the greatest thing of all time it's been a wonderful uh wonderful
opportunity to hang out with um some some old friends you know making still very fresh and exciting music and really cool of you I think to let us into the process while you're doing it rather than like you say sort of wait for this you know another big kind of like brain dump of ideas and everything else um and
especially considering the work is not done I mean there's still touring to be done North America this summer um with 30 seconds to Ms yeah it should be fun which is going to be amazing we don't have much of a production cuz we're playing these outdoor shows you know so you can't all the drones all the crazy
stuff in there so we just got J letterin basically that's the that's that's far more interesting than a bunch of drones flying around it oh you should definitely definitely at some point during your set on your screen just have a picture of him at his prettiest just at his prettiest I mean is there something that in terms of the
camaraderie of it that you're looking forward to as much as anything else yeah yeah we've we've done gigs with them before in the past um so kind of know them not super well but you know we we've crossed paths a bunch of times sometimes see the uh uh the drummer Shannon running around run Canyon y but
yeah they're a good band so um and we have a band called Paris opening up as well so I've never seen them play live but you know I've I've heard great things do you still get that excitement that that that sort of energy and anticipation when you're pack in your bag to go away on a run yeah definitely
on this one particularly because uh it's it's just we've never done a summer outdoor tour the US I I can't believe you know so you're talking about the gorge and big amphithe yeah amphitheaters and it's actually it's actually all the cities we didn't get to go to on the drones tour as well so so
it's uh it's uh it's pretty exciting America is so ridiculously big you know I mean there's all these huge cities I can't believe we didn't get to on the last tour even though we did like you know we did like two months of touring in the US we we still didn't I can imagine there's there's a Vibe you know
when you're doing amphitheaters and outdoor shows and Summers where you know it it feels more like Grill weather you know and there's a sense of camaraderie backstage that you don't get when you're in the bowels of an arena exactly yeah just being outoors is is going to be great you know so the last time we did
that was um when we did the curiosa tour in like 200 for supporting cure and they had like a bit of a package of a whole bunch of bands it like a mini Festival but it was great it was a good time even though we were like playing on a bag of a truck and in the car park outside yeah yeah we were headlining the truck and we
can't wait man we're excited and thanks so much for running in and and hanging out with us for this countdown to the release of this record it's really good to see you guys and I'll be sure I'll make sure I'll bring some Stakes to you know I'll do a little grilling backstage little Ampitheater action