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I think I'm losing my mind.
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How long have we been here?
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Like how long has it been since I ate that wing?
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We've been here for 3 days. Oh god.
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Hey, what's going on everybody?
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From First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
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It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings.
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And today we're joined by Maisie Williams.
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She's an Emmy nominated actress you know as Arya Stark in Game of Thrones.
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She's also a tech entrepreneur and animal activist.
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But how will she fare today against some of the spiciest vegan snacks in the history of the world? We'll find out today.
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Maisie Williams, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I'm very excited. You're excited? No, I'm terrified.
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I can see it a little bit, but let me calm you down just a bit.
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How do you handle your heat?
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My stepdad actually one time at Christmas thought it would be a good idea for us all to have like a little spoonful of hot sauce.
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And I just remember like wanting to put the hot sauce like the hot sauce the milk in my ears where it was like burning so much.
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Well, you ready to relive some holiday memories? I am. I can't wait. Okay. Okay. No problem. No.
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So you come to us from the big budget world of HBO, but I know that YouTube has a very special place in your heart.
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You grew up on vloggers like Jenna Marbles and Daily Grace.
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Are you still notification squad or do you find yourself watching less YouTube these days?
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No, I'm still there every Wednesday / Thursday for Jenna Marbles.
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It's really sad because her dogs are getting older now and I've watched Marbles like grow up and you know, I'm going to it's going to be painful when that day comes.
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But yeah, I'm still in Well, for her channel and this channel and a couple of others.
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Bon Appetit and that's like where I'm at.
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You have good taste, Maisie. Thanks.
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Can you tell us what it was like to shoot with Binging with Babish?
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He's a friend of ours and I've shot with him a couple times and I find it challenging because you're working off that monitor and then it's framed up like this.
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I'm always going like opposite my instincts and reaching out of the frame and everything.
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and he's like such a pro at it now cuz like it's his setup and it's his house and he's like very chill about it and like yeah, it's still kind of nerve-wracking when there's a camera on you anyway and then you've got to like try and do all these technical things and yeah, it was like a little overwhelming but I just wanted some good food.
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I honestly just kept messaging people.
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I was like messaging Bon Appetit and I was like messaging him and I was like, "Does anyone have any food?
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I'm in New York and I'm really hungry."
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And he pulled through and we ate some bread.
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That wasn't as bad as the one before.
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We're playing mind games with you over here. Oh god, don't do that.
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Okay, what happens if it like gets in my throat and then I cough and it's like aggressive?
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That would be That's good.
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We'll put some like deep bass sound effect down it and maybe hit you with a fast zoom and shake the camera. Okay, okay, cool.
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Now I'm looking forward to the next one. Save that one up. Yeah.
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Is it true that you almost missed your Game of Thrones audition because you didn't want to miss a class trip to the pig farm? Yeah, that's true.
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My mom was like really put her foot down and I was like kind of mad about it.
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I just really wanted to go on that school trip but you know, I wouldn't be here today. Good thing you didn't.
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Yeah, he wouldn't have put me on the show if I'd have gone to that pig farm. Maybe we would have.
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We got to get that girl from the field trip.
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Are hyenas misunderstood?
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I know that you worked closely with them when you were doing heatstroke in the desert of Africa.
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The guy who was like handling them and like training them, he was very clear that like you can't really train a hyena and like they are wild animals and they will do what they want to do and you have to really respect them.
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And so like we tried our best to do that, you know.
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We said please and thank you.
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And uh yeah, no, but they're incredible animals and like very neck heavy and like in ballet.
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Well, as you'd expect from a show that's racked up more than 150 Emmy nominations and broken almost every ratings record, Game of Thrones is like the most fabled show on the internet.
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So here we want to fact-check some of the rumors that are swirling around in cyberspace, okay?
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Fact or fiction, Game of Thrones writers would prank the cast by handing out fake scripts involving their deaths and then sometimes let the joke play out for weeks before coming clean. Yeah, that's true. They did that.
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They I think they told Alfie Allen that he was killed by Bran in like a really anticlimactic way.
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But then they didn't tell Isaac that they were doing the joke, so then he texts Isaac like it's cool about that, you know, man.
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And then Isaac was like I don't know what you're talking about and then it all, you know.
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They did another one on Kit Harington where they said that he got like really aggressively mauled on the face and he was going to have like a huge disfigurement on his beautiful, you know, chiseled jaw and that one was quite funny. Poor guy.
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Is it true that when Queen Elizabeth visited you guys on set, she refused to sit in the Iron Throne because of an esoteric rule barring her from sitting on a foreign seat of state?
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Yeah, I mean she didn't necessarily like refuse.
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No one said sit on that chair because it's going to be funny.
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Um we all just sort of smiled and we're like is she going to do it?
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You know, everyone's like that. Do it.
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And um yeah, she sort of looked at it and said, "That doesn't look very comfy." Comfortable.
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She wouldn't have said comfy.
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God, it's Queen Elizabeth.
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And then finally, is it true that you're right-handed, but did most of the sword work left-handed to be true to the original novels? Yes, that is true.
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That was 12-year-old me being I don't know, a feminist, I guess.
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Yeah, no, I just like seeing on the internet cuz like this is the most exciting thing that ever happened to me, so I'd read everything about Game of Thrones online.
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And everyone was like, "Oh, that horse is supposed to be black, not white."
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And like, you know, getting really upset about the most trivial things.
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So, I was like, guess I'm going to have to do this left-handed.
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Um and at the beginning it was like very exciting, but I'd always come into the choreography and they'd start teaching it to me and I'd be like, "You've done it right-handed, haven't you?"
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And they'd be like, "Yeah, we did."
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And I'm like, "Well, you're going to have to change it all. I'll be back at noon." No, it wasn't like that. I wish I was though.
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12-year-old me like that, that would have been funnier.
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Are these getting hotter?
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I don't know, I feel like they're getting hotter.
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Or maybe it's a psychological thing. Mhm. I will not be trapped.
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So, I want to take a wing to talk about the launch of Daisy, which as I understand, is a talent discovery app designed to help artists collaborate.
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Yeah, it's for people who are up and coming and like you have a great idea, but you just don't have the contacts with people that can help you do that because it's all about collaboration, you know?
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Like it's me and you on camera right now, but there's like 15 other people in this room.
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So, it's basically a a platform where it's really targeted towards um like the skill set that you have and and the discovery for that.
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I thought it was interesting that you decided on the app to not use like upvotes and likes.
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As someone who has your unique perspective, someone of your age, do you find that the ill effects of social media on young people, are they overstated or understated in your opinion?
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I don't think it's either.
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I just think that it's not taken as seriously as it needs to be.
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People are either talking about it like it's awful, we should get rid of all of it.
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Um and like they hate the internet and like hate what it's doing to their children.
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Or people talk about it like, "Oh, the kids are so stupid that they think that this is like, you know?"
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And no one's actually just taking it seriously enough and understanding that it's not going to go away, but we just need to like figure it out. I'm like excited now.
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I feel like I'm going to kill this. You are killing it.
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You know, people say that after four wings sometimes. Yeah. Oh, okay. That one's quite hot.
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All right, Maisie, we have a recurring segment on our show called Explain That Gram where we do a deep dive on our guest's Instagram, pull interesting pictures that need more context.
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I'm really excited to see what you chose. All right.
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Well, you know, it's season 10, we're doing it big. We have a monitor now.
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We've retired the laptop. Cool.
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Here you are with a Plays Well With Others T-shirt at Comic-Con.
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really sad about it, too. Yeah. Do you know what it is?
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So, someone at Comic-Con, they like do questions from from the audience.
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And someone like stood up and was like, "Uh, I have a question.
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I just want to give you my shirt."
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And the reason why I'm frowning so hard is because the little Arya on the cuz I've got like a real harsh frown line, and they even drew it on on the T-shirt.
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And so, I was like, "Look, she's got the frown line."
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So, that's why I'm frowning.
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What's the Arya Stark trait?
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Like the thing that WENT INTO THAT? TODAY."
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And they're like, "What's your name?"
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One time this person goes, "What's your name?"
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And I was like, "Maisie Williams." And they went, "No."
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And I was like, "Oh, [ __ ] Yeah, sorry. I have no name."
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Up next, here you are at Wimbledon giving a hug to Ellen DeGeneres. can't. Yeah, that happened. Why was Ellen there?
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I mean, we were in the royal box.
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I guess you like got to have Ellen in the royal box.
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Everyone's like on their best behavior and like but they're also like plying you with Pimm's.
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So, you're like getting more and more drunk, but like you have to keep it together and be like really serious.
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And then like it got to like the end of the day and like it was then that the TV cameras were like, "Who do we have in the royal box today?"
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And they were like, "Maisie Williams."
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And I was like, "Whatever." Whatever.
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I was yawning at Wimbledon. Who didn't? Come on.
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Ooh, okay, that's not very nice.
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Okay, it's going to get hot now, isn't it? You knew it'd get real. You knew it'd get real. It's happening. Oh, no, I'm sad.
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You put some base on that.
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Okay, I just need an Yeah, yeah. Hit that oat milk. Hit that oat milk.
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So, we've talked a lot about the behind the scenes of Game of Thrones, but we should talk about the broader cultural impact because it's a show that's dominated water cooler conversations for close to a decade. Yeah.
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What was your reaction when Drake said, "Shout out to Arya Stark for putting in that work last week at the Billboard Music Awards?" like, "Wow." It was really exciting.
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But like I wasn't there, so I was like afterwards in my room like, "This is never quite as cool.
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Like I wish I was there to be like Do you feel like Taylor Swift's Look What You Made Me Do is a good musical interpretation of Arya's kill list? Absolutely.
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That came out and I thought, "I'm relevant." No, but that's crazy. It must be surreal. I know, I know.
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That one of the biggest pop stars in the world would put together an album that was basically inspired by binge watching Game of Thrones. Yeah, for sure. It was cool.
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I loved that album as well.
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It was like a real turn for her, you know?
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She like did that thing that pop stars do really well.
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And then um in 2011, the US Social Security Administration reported that Arya is the fastest growing baby name for girls.
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Is that a badge of honor for you? It is. That's cool. That's really cool.
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I think if I wasn't on the show, well, yeah, if I wasn't on the show, it would be like a name I'd think of for my child cuz it's like that she's such a great character.
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Be weird if I did it now though.
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It'd be like, this is Arya and this is Sansa. They're my children.
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That would just be strange.
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Open, go for broke, repeat. Okay, let's do it.
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They just creep, don't they?
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That's the other thing that you have to worry about.
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Okay, yeah, that's creeping. Oh. I don't know. I don't know anything.
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How many days you have to go until you do another episode?
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Well, it's funny that you asked that, you know, because we are opportunists here at Hot Ones.
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You know, like wherever the thing happens, we chase that thing and then we'll pop up this set wherever. Oh god.
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So, for example, we shot yesterday with Ashton Kutcher.
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Do you Are you like do you have to go to the doctors to make sure you don't have like We shoot again on Friday and then the following Tuesday. It just stacks. Hopefully I'll make it.
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So, last season I got a crash course in Cockney rhyming slang from Idris Elba.
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So, now that you're here, I'm hoping that you can add some Bristolisms to my growing arsenal.
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Do people in Bristol like do locals call it Brizzle or would that be like a New Yorker calling New York the Big Apple?
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Yeah, they don't really do that. Right.
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met anyone that's done that.
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Maybe there's like a weird portion of Bristol that do that.
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I could have believed that, but I've never really heard someone actually do that.
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What does it mean to say, "These wings are gert lush"?
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Oh, it just means that they're really good. Did I say it right? Yeah, gert lush. Gert lush.
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I'm I love that we're doing this on this show, like putting Bristol on the map on Hot Ones. Right here.
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actually just messaged my family group chat.
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We're going away for Christmas.
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And I just like put like it's going to be gertlush. Arcady. Arcady.
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Have you ever heard that?
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The more you say it, the more You know, like when you say a word over and over again, and then you're like that doesn't sound like a word anymore.
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So, what you're doing Arcady. Arcady.
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Arcady in that sweatshirt. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Uh-oh.
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That means I did not It means I didn't I didn't barrel I didn't barrel that one up. Like hawk at he.
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I guess it's kind of like look at him. Hawk at he.
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But, you say like arc a e because it's like slang. Arc a e. Yeah, just like that. Just like that.
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You know, say that in London and they'll go, "Wow, he is a Londoner." All right, Maisie. You know the show. This is the bomb.
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I'm I'm really proud of myself, by the way. You're killing it. You're doing great. Oh, it's hot.
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I just got a little Oh, no. Okay. I swallowed it whole.
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I don't know if that's better or worse, but I'm not chewing that. Okay, it's bad. It's still bad. Oh, it's bad. Yeah. Oh, god. Mhm.
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I think I really like dodged a bullet there, though.
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You should swallow it whole and just risk choking.
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Well, let's see how this goes. Okay. You know? Yeah.
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We put the cart in front of the horse here sometimes. Mhm. The build. Okay. But, maybe that is. Maybe that's the move. I think I got it. Impressive. Oh, it sucks.
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Oh, it's like it's like coming from within. Yeah.
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It's like actually no escape. Yeah, no.
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I think it that was just like that. Bomb went off. Yeah. Oh.
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Is it true that for most of your life you thought that graham crackers were called cram crackers?
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Yeah, because you guys call graham gram. Gram. Oh, Jesus.
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Yeah, so I thought they were just called cram crackers.
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But they're called cram crackers.
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For the uninitiated, why is the Great Can I have one that's not covered in hot? Yeah.
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Dom is fast on the draw here.
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Actually, it's Chris this time. Thank you. Okay. Right here with you. Right here with you. Okay.
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For the uninitiated, why is The Great British Bake Off the best cooking show on TV?
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Um cuz Mary Berry, but now it's Prue.
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Like there's no offense to Prue. Like poor girl.
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And then But Mary was just, you know.
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She was so sassy, you know?
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Like she really just like when Paul was being a bit of a dick, just was like, "Ugh." You know? We like that.
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Yeah, why are we crying over here? It's cauliflower. Oat crying.
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So when someone When someone When someone does cauliflower and oat milk Do you do cauliflower and oat milk? Cauliflower, oat milk. Oh, cool.
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Whatever my guest goes with, that's what I'll go with. Okay.
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And then, you know, in the lead-up to Game of Thrones season 8, there were so many Game of Thrones food products from the uh Dracarys burger at Shake Shack to these Oreos that are stamped with the Stark sign. Oh god.
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People go to um Like when you order a coffee sometimes they'll put like, you know, a nice like your face.
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Well, I don't know if I've ever had that, but like, you know, a a word or something.
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Yeah, people do things like that a lot, but I've never had any of the things that you said.
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I think I'm losing my mind.
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It's How long have we been here?
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Like how long has it been since I ate that wing?
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It's We've been here for 3 days. Oh god. Shivering.
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No, I don't know what it is.
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I don't know what's happening to me. I don't want to do it.
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Oh, it's a bit red there.
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Oh, it just sucks on every side. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm I'm Okay. Take your time. Take your time. I don't know. You want to go quick. All right. Band-Aid. Rip it. totally. Just swallow it whole.
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At this point I did the rest of them without swallowing them whole, but they've had so much like chili on that now it's just like Don't put more chili on your lips. Right.
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Oh, it hurts my tongue though. Yeah.
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And the roof of my You once said that if you had a career in dance that you would leave acting. Is that still true?
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Yeah, I just I would I would I would do both.
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I would never like do it over acting anymore.
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Like Um I love it, but like having something that you really love as a hobby while still doing something that you love for a career is like a win-win.
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Um cuz sometimes if you make your hobby a career, then like you can start to hate it because it's like that's what, you know, your brain does cuz it's annoying.
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Was the dance party at Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas's wedding up to standard?
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I'm sure that that was part of your responsibilities on the made of honor checklist. It was quite the party.
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Diplo came and spun the decks.
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Have Diplo at your wedding, that's like That's the hack.
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Apparently he was supposed to be at Glastonbury and he didn't go cuz he came to the wedding. Wow. And that's the tea. All right, Maisie. No. We're here. We're here.
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We're here, which is a good thing. a lot.
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You know, I I want to do the dab.
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You don't have to do the dab. No, I should. I'm scared. Yeah, be careful.
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Wait, I just I can't think straight. That's fine. That's fine.
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My ears are doing funny thing again.
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For the first for the second time in your life? Yeah. This is like no joke. Yeah, you're telling me.
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It was more for their benefit. Guys, it's no joke.
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As someone who's seen the show, watches the show, is it what you thought it would be in terms of spice?
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Is it hotter than you thought it would be?
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Is it not as hot as you thought it would be?
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You know, the fruity flavors are a real nice touch. Thank you.
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Because I thought it was You did a good there. Very nice touch.
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That makes it, you know, it's like calms your nerves as you like go into it.
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That was like something I didn't expect, but I I'm grateful for.
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But, you know, coming into these last four wings here, we're It becomes a different experience. Yeah. Okay.
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Sorry, is this better for camera? Here. get the drop. What a pro. Careful though.
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Yeah, it is so it sneaks up on you, you know. It does.
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Our old last dab it was like thick.
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You had to really get some going. Smart.
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I'm going to start doing that.
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Can I do that and dip it? Dip it. Okay.
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And now cuz like, you know, mentally feel like it's ketchup, but it's not. Can you hear me? I'm like as I speak.
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I feel like I've got like three tongues like there. Everything's swollen. Okay. Okay. The dip.
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I hope no one gives me [ __ ] for that. Come on, that's fine. That's a big dab. It's very quiet. Okay.
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No, I don't want to do Uh-oh. Oh, no.
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I feel like we're about to jump.
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Yeah, I just went and you just uh yeah.
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Yeah, you just went and I'm like, "Sorry." Sorry. Okay. Okay. Mhm.
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I can't swallow it whole. Oh, no.
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I meant I made a big mistake. All right.
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Maisie Williams, the bells they're ringing here on our battle against the wings of death, but we just have one more obstacle I'm going to wing you my dude.
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before we get you out of here. Okay.
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We'd be remiss not to mention your BFF and co-star Sophie Turner.
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I know that you guys were attached at the hip for the last 10 years on set, even getting matching tattoos to commemorate the day that you guys got your roles together. It is so beautiful. Yeah. I wish she was here. for support.
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And so do I, which is why I'd like you to look into this camera and either try to convince Sophie Turner that Hot Ones is a good idea.
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Either persuade her or dissuade her from doing the show, depending on how you're feeling right now.
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We've never eaten hot food together, so I don't know how you're going to do at this.
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So, I want you to come and do Hot Ones. I'm calling you out. Come do Hot Ones.
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Do Hot Ones and then like maybe I'll be better than you, but probably not. Well, you know what? better than everything.
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You've gone to the top of the mountain today, Maisie Williams.
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I know that you're nervous.
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The red flag, that's that's they wave the red flag when someone's a champion. That's what they do. Just let it go. Like this. everywhere. It's not chicken. It's cauliflower.
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And look at you at the end of the line and now there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you, my friend. to do it again. That was so fun.
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This camera, this camera, this camera.
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Let the people know what you have going on in your life. Oh, nothing really. Just eating hot food.
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Happy holidays, everybody. Okay. How exciting. I'm on Hot Ones. Mama.
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I saw I think I got a milk mustache. That's good. That's good for the pig. I'll get one.
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Hey, what's going on, Hot Ones fans?
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This is Sean Evans checking in to say if you do not have plans on November 2nd or 3rd, come out to Complex Con Long Beach.
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Hot Ones will be bringing it for our fourth straight year, doing a live episode with the baby, the first beef feast food zone.
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I'll be making the rounds, taking pictures, slinging hot sauce.
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You don't want to miss it.
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Again, that's November 2nd and 3rd in Long Beach, California, Hot Ones round four, baby.