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you know i haven't seen you for some time and there's i missed you you know we stayed in touch a little bit on text here and there i would check in once in a while even after your retirement just to see what was going on about kids and family
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talked about kids and family and we didn't have the pressure of talking about music because you weren't really making it or at least you weren't telling us you were making i was yeah i was not in the light i was just chilling
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you were just chilling and um i was conflicted like why do you why do you want to walk away like why and why do you want to tell us you want to walk away you could just walk away and not tell us and then pick your moment when
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you come back yeah i think um i think a big part of it really just came down to like the internet social media perception and hip-hop like all this stuff that i didn't want to be a part of anymore and then when i realized that none of that matters anyway like
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literally neo like there is no spoon yeah like you can do whatever you want i was like oh snap i need to get the def jam deal let me come back so yeah and is that why you decided to tell us that like hey look i'm walking away
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because fans were distraught when you said i'm not gonna make music anymore and i'm retiring and i'm basically out of the game but people who do that either do it to set up another business move or they do it to make a point were
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you making a point i think i was making a point in my own life because i really believed it looking back i was full of sh okay but like right now like or where where i was i really believed it like i was like okay like i'm out of
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this but i think i was also leaving for the wrong reasons and i think in many ways i was like trying to run away from stuff when i realized like there's nothing to run away from i just don't have to partake and you don't have to yes of the industry um and when i
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realized that i think i was ready to kind of come back but i'm glad that i took that time away to have my son and to be there for his first steps and his first words and you know it was really really special for me that's the upside of running into
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something new and then figuring out whether the reason was valid or not the upside is you get to focus on family and all that the flip side is that you don't have all this distraction and all these things that are keeping you in logic
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and keeping you in bobby and then so when you remove all of that you take you take the tours and the recordings and the good and the trolling and the me interview interview and you have all this time how did that feel when you suddenly had
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time it was amazing because it's like i had time to just like chill and do me for the first time in my life no it was it was dope i mean mind you i'm still was working you know what i mean i was doing a lot of work
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and and recording because like that's my therapy like without doing that like i can't i can't survive i can't it's like not being able to breathe if i can't write so i was definitely doing that but in therapy you know learning
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more about myself and how to better myself as a man a husband a father like that's that's what i was doing and then coming back into the music space with that learning and you've gone into this place with vinyl days that is just like reflective
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and warm and hungry and it's it's like it's a concept record effectively i mean sure you know so what is the concept bro it's a mixtape like it's just straight hip-hop you know what i mean it's something that i i just kind of wanted to really it's so
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funny it almost sounds cliche like bring the boom back back like bring it back to the basics but like that's what i wanted to do i just wanted to rap have fun not overthink it and do my thing and and i feel like i did and i'm happy that i'm
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i'm able to do that especially at this place in my career it's like if i wanted to make a bunch of money it wouldn't have been this album and i say that because it's like i would have just made a bunch of pop and there's nothing wrong with that
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either but i was like i wanted to make a statement and i also wanted to end um you know my relationship on this legendary label that is def jam with something that truly represents what def jam is i can tell because this album is
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you just coming out and there's no apologies on this record at all yeah this is like it's kind of arrogant confident yeah yeah and a little arrogant but you stacked you stacked yourself with people you have a team you built a team around this
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record not just the skits but like do you see the dark you surround yourself with people who could help bring this project to life and you started with the you you picked really well as always i mean egon bring egon in yeah yeah um i
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guess who acts as somewhat of an executive producer yeah he's more like an anr i really executive produced it and yeah man i mean he i caught so we did the whole album in 12 days by the way people who don't know egon is a is a
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an incredible creative mind taste maker who was instrumental and remains instrumental in shepherding the legacy of the great j dilla he's the man and i call him and i say send me as much vinyl as you can and he overnights me 150 vinyl and i take
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what he gives me put it on the record player feed it through the npc make beats right how long and just knock it out 12 days you did the whole thing in 12 days yeah we did 14 records in five days how can you listen to all that i couldn't even
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listen to the vinyl in 12 days i didn't listen to it all so you were just going through and letting your instinct say i'm going to that sounds good i'm going to flip that that sounds like 100 don't care if in 60 seconds time is a drum
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break to die for that's the one i'm going to play yeah the cool thing too is just like maybe three hooks on the whole album so it's like it's just raps one of my favorite beats on the record is uh nadwa the way you football british
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british british british british british columbia character it's incredible the way you flip his voice and make it part of the beat and everything else and obviously i'm a huge fan of nadwa and i've actually he's you know i've been
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he's taught he's interviewed me as well which was like a high point and about the only time my kids have ever been impressed with anything i've ever done he's the best and so so getting him on the album and paying respects to him just a little bit of thoughts behind
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that and then we'll lean into the skits themselves because it's a full conflicts of an album thank you um jj abrams you talking about jj you know what's so funny is there's also i called it okay this is what retirement sounds like yeah
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i know i called it jj abraham's because uh and i'll tell you about the nardwar i think i called it jj abrahams jj was with roger lin the creator of the mpc and then he got roger lin to write me a letter like a little note and i'm like oh my
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god like this dude birthed hip hop in many ways like production jj abrams hanging out with rick i don't know why am i why is logic hanging out with jay james no that makes more sense i'm just wondering what abrams is cooking up about roger loki
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jj's a fire musician nobody knows it really put him on well it makes sense his daughter's super talented oh yeah she's he literally like he's the bomb so roger lin writes a note and says hey bobby thanks for using my instruments and i'm like oh
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my god but he spells my name b-o-b-b-i-e like a woman and i'm like fire i'm still framing this and then jj uh mails it to me doesn't show up a couple weeks later i i hit jj no big deal no big deal and i'm like hey
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man he's like hey i'm on the set of star wars mbd nbd no that's not how it happened anyway so i was just like hey man i never got that thing he's oh don't worry about it and then he gets roger lin to give me like a formal like heading from the akai
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like newshead letter and he writes writes says hey bobby um thank you so much for you know using my instruments jj abrahams the second one you messed up his name and i thought it would just be a fun uh kind of behind-the-scenes story as far
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as nardwar goes dude nardwar i love nardwar he's he's the sweetest he cares he's genuine he's weird and different in in a great way he's himself but he's also incredibly professional and the thing that nawaz likes to put
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across is that it's all this this big kind of like hey it's all eccentric and jokey but but actually he is the most researched yeah dude the most prepared the most respectful i don't know how he gets his information no he doesn't i
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mean neither i was always sure he would contact somebody in my crew and i remember after the first one i had asked my friends they were like bro we didn't say no i have a theory about it i just think that i just think that he has a
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crew of people and they just know how to can carve up the internet like they're like private detectives everything is there right like we think we know what the internet has the internet is just infinite depth now because it's just
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learnt everything there is to learn and now it's turning it into i feel like it's the closest thing to god to an all-knowing thing or at least what we know it's like the closest thing to that in your pocket that i could just be like whatever i could literally be like
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movies near me or this or that anything that you could want dream of think of anything it's kind of insane okay let's focus then on uh bronson dude yeah he gave me one of my favorite lines i you know i mean obviously i'm going through
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the ripping out of the hellcat no it's uh 11 roses expertly engraved on this on the side of the handle or something like that yeah he's wild he's like he's like to kick you with strange feet like who says that this guy says it you know how
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that song happened please that song happened a year before it actually because me and madlib are doing an album called magic and that's in process right now well we i've we finished it and i've done the whole is he wrapping on it no
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is that i'm going to try to get him to wrap up yeah well we've literally asked him on your own quasi i know we'll figure it out but we did that in a weekend and egon sent me basically every madlib beat that he's ever done sorry i'm all far away from the mic um
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i mean gigs and gigs and gigs from like 2005 and i went through and made like my perfect album of all my favorite beats and then i just wrapped on them all and madlib comes over just like a year ago mad lib comes over and he's like
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yo bobby this is crazy and i was like really you like it he's i love it i'm like wow he's like this is an amazing album he doesn't really sound like that's pretty good kind of hey he's otis whatever so he's like there's just one
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thing and i'm like what he's like i don't remember any of these samples so good luck clearing him yeah he's like we can't clear it i don't know what they are like i was on mushrooms 15 years ago when i made this beat i don't know
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it's not like he's it's it's not like he's you know you're going to be able to go on like apple music and find these things and jump it's not like they're like super funk breaks volume eight no it's like some he picked up in like brazil
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you know or whatever but i was like okay that's fine and so we're still working on it i'm just going to take those dope wraps and just put them on new beats yeah yeah you know so it's really not that deep and it's going to be amazing and maybe we'll
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release those demos for free one day yeah you know like people can see them but anyway so action was on that and on that beat me and madzibit actually produced it together and that was one of the samples that he
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listen to the conversation though man and like what you're manifesting like it's crazy you know you get to build this kind of world with egon who doesn't do that he has his his life's work and what he what he's passionate about he needs to
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like lean in with other artists and send them all that you get to make music and produce with mad lib i mean these are the people that kind of raised you bro oh bro come on i got the quas yeah i got this here i got dilla here how can you
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not believe in magic dude no seriously it's like a dream come true but this is the it made me be like oh whoa like my whole career i was scared to extend my hand to people you know whether it was like kendrick like i've never i don't even
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know how i would get in touch with kendrick i love kendrick lamar i think he's great um different people to like reach out i would be like scared that they wouldn't reciprocate that once i kind of retired i was like well logic
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this is unimportant now i'm just a guy who can just be a fan of somebody it's not some competition so now when i reach out to people i'm just like it's just like who gives a so i'll be like hey i really like you and they'll be like i like you too man
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and then boom you're friends i'm so happy that you've drawn attention to the voices that love music but don't make it because people like flex nadwa you mentioned big boy there's so many angie martinez there's so many and in the uk you know incredible
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even lena waith on this you know having her having her do a skit yeah which was awesome too another great skit and a really powerful message there yeah but what you do like let's talk about you know the interview that i sampled
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with you and earl sweatshirt shout out i think i think i might have met earl once on like a tour but we never like like really met and like shook each other's hands like so let me just say earl i love you for real and thank you so much and thank
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you um to everybody at apple for allowing me to use this sample about sampling yeah and i thought it was really uh really kind of thanks for using it it was cool yeah no but it spoke to me and that's what i mean it's
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like if you had never if you were not you yeah that wouldn't have existed i wouldn't have been inspired that wouldn't if that song wouldn't have it's just of course what we do we're in the same ethos man you know you're a creative
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like just because you might not necessarily make music what does that have to do with like i wouldn't be rapping if it wasn't for quentin tarantino he's a director yeah right you know this has been a really fun interview i wonder what time you're rap ready like
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what what's too early for you to rap oh dude i'm a professional really yeah oh my god you're not about to maybe freestyle right now are you that's a freestyle you can do something that you wrote i don't know what i've written second i get it
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what i'm spitting it's the elegy i see we are in l.a for sure though moving to the malibu me and my crew coming through to do what it do we got plus daddy doing what we do i'm smacking you up like gilmore's caddy you must before how it
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is the b.o.w.b.y i don't know it's strictly off the top the t.o.p i said it once i said it twice heather's advice i'm feeling good i'm feeling hella nice i got the chain i'm feeling deranged they like man logic ain't saying
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anything i could give a this is what that that rap is brought up on that brooklyn in the park after dark type when i write but i don't this is how we gotta get it yeah you want it but you won't with me and that's it i'm just having fun i don't know you