and when you are low to know to think of times where you felt high and to experience that that gratitude that you you know you can feel that happy that's what i i cling on to most you cling on to most you can't feel any other feeling but gratitude when experience experiencing gratitude and i'm so thankful for that because in my times of darkness i just
feel grateful that i know what light feels like hey everyone thank you so much for coming back to on purpose the number one health podcast in the world thanks to each and every one of you i'm genuinely so deeply touched that you come back every single week to learn to listen to grow and to make an investment into your development your growth and you know that i try bring on guests
every single week that i believe are going to help you live a better more meaningful purposeful life and today's guest is incredible like her energy is infectious her smile is contagious the love that she emanates and embodies from the moment i met her is truly one of the most beautiful things to witness and observe and i'm so excited that you're going to get to
witness that for so much more time today than we usually do and i have to say she has one of the busiest schedules in the world so the fact that she's actually made time for this i'm super humbled and grateful so let me go into this and listen very carefully this is everyone listening today's guest is an actress a television host comedian and youtuber she began her career on
vine in 2013 before starting a youtube channel her acting roles include at a walker in tyler perry's horror comedy film boo a medea halloween and the explorer in the youtube premium series escape the night she starred as violet adams in hulu drama television series freakish and she both produces and stars in the youtube premium comedy series eliza on demand and series 2 is
coming out so we're gonna be talking a lot about that and she's the host of the nickelodeon game show double dare she's received four streamy awards right guys not just one four streamy awards 14 choice awards and a kids choice award she's a member of the 2019 forbes 30 under 30 and she's got a lot of years to go before that even gets close so she's got a ton of time
and she was on times 2019 list of the 25 most influential people on the internet with 60 million followers across over four platforms her name is the one and only liza you are such koshy legend you are such a legend thank you couldn't they have put you on like the forbes 25 under 25 or like 23 under 23 like what are they doing i'm glad i slid you my resume so you could
read all of that i had to read it i had to read it and i thought about this and i'll be honest with you when we're researching guests and we're getting the bio together and i'm picking out what to say and i i read that and i literally said to julian i said to him when we were looking at it i was just like i'm going to say all of it because she deserves it i'm going to
say all of it and there's so much more but i was like i wanted you to and i want everyone listening and i want you to recognize just how amazing you are and what you've accomplished how incredible it is and you do it with so much grace like you don't do it with any ego i've never sensed arrogance from you i've never sensed ego just an actress i'm i'm full of it
i'm just pretending to be humble over here so you're a great actress well check out the show then i'll prove it yeah exactly i'm trying and i'm so excited for season two i've been watching the first it's been amazing thank you so much it's been so exciting season two got a little bit of an upgrade so we got a little bit more budget on that one so we got more budget but surprisingly
less wardrobe so i will say in the first episode i am naked so speaking of what i want you to watch so check it out but it is it is it's very vulnerable i will say i'm very exposed literally and figuratively and spiritually so you get to see more of a journey and more of like my growth as like a human being but also as a character and it kind of like parallels my real life of me
stepping into my power and so does my character so i'm excited for that that's amazing i love that and i love how much of when i've been watching it i love how much of you is infused into the character yes like it doesn't help yeah no but it's it's so it's still done so uniquely like so i never feel like i'm watching a video of yours it definitely feels
like a show which i love that distinction that you've been able to make it's very different but at the same time i can see you genuinely coming out and i think that's your superpower like you know you as who you are and your your expressions your emoji-like face like you know that's like that's like the stuff and i'm like i'm so happy to see that come
out and the comedy's all you like you're writing as well that's me so yeah i'm in the writers room i'm writing and you know developing the story with a bunch of other amazing magicians and cooks in the kitchen so i'm just blessed to have this like amazing family that's willing to uplift this story that hasn't really been told so or at least told from my perspective so
i'm excited yeah absolutely thank you we were just talking about starting off with compliments and i have the like i'm like you know i was nervous because my first podcast i'm trying to do my most soothing voice possible sounds like an off-grand beyonce right now hey y'all how y'all doing but i look like crazy cardi b right now like if cardi b was raised at disneyland or something
if you're watching the visual i'm wearing many colors every color in the pantone book i swear so we have eliza crossing cardi b and beyonce in this part for one three for one baby is amazing no and this is your first podcast this is my first party which which i felt so humbled and honored by i was like wow like thank you oh so grateful it is an honor to be on
yours i can't tell you like how many times i've been in my times of weakness and i felt empowered and strengthened through your words and through your shares on instagram i always say like you know feed your feed with things that genuinely feed you and genuinely is a word that's thrown around a lot but you are genuinely one of the most amazing like enlightening souls that
i've like ever come across and this is like our first time like hanging out too so you're watching this like full-on full conversation that we've never had before just like on camera with each other so i'm excited but um yeah yeah i i appreciate everything that you've done you you helped me through a really tough time and i'm grateful to be here today
to thank you in person and i'm here for you i'm totally here for you anytime any you know any time and and uh i'm i was so touched by dimension in the wall street journal and so many other places it's not even that like i just i wanted to say that like i think this is who you are and this is where i want to start with how this conversation has already gone because it's turned into a
confidence already i want to stop this i actually have some questions i wanted to ask which i will get to yeah but but but i want to point this out because i think it's important to testament to who you are like like you said this the first time we're like sitting down face to face having our conversation you could have said anyone but you still
said me and you've you've mentioned so many wonderful things about me and i'm just like this is the most beautiful thing about something like you're saying it when we haven't even had this moment to sit down together and so anyway the feelings we're gonna stop complimenting each other you will not hear a compliment for the rest of this podcast both of our egos
are boosted yeah we are good to go yeah exactly like now that now that we've got that out the way like we're gonna we're gonna ask serious interview questions i wanna start off i wanna start off with something and i wanna dive into the making of the show and everything but i wanna start off with something that i think is important to what you've touched on it's
important to how you've spoken about it and you said this and it's really powerful when you returned from your social media break you said that it was the first time that you felt successful yeah and when i heard that i was just like wow like what happened in that time yeah like we've just read your resume you know everyone knows your accomplishments but you said that that was the first time
you felt successful what happened in that time where people were like where liza was like now i feel successful yeah okay well everybody has their own definition of success right and my definition of success although it may sound selfish it's not the feeling of joy and happiness that resides in that quiet confidence that resides in myself and i was always a very
big kind of obnoxious like real loud personality who like comes out in different forms and has explored myself creatively in different forms whether it be through hosting or acting or whatever it may be um or whatever inspires me in that time but i i was finding myself i created this box or this rectangle if you will um of you know my youtube videos and all
these characters and personas that i i put on and that i created for myself um and i'll get more into that later because there's reasons why i created all those personas and i developed this level of awareness that i'm like oh that's why i made that because i needed that i'll get into that but i i literally created this this rectangle and people knew me they created a definition around me
um as to what i do or or what i create and i had to break out of that so you think of like a you know a kid on disney channel right and that network created you know what that character is in that show and what the messages are trying to convey in that show um and then when that person as a human being naturally grows and evolves they become you know their themselves or whatever
version they may become and that's like a that's like a role you break out of now i created my own and so to break out of that and become this host or become this actress was me you know experimenting creatively outside of what people knew me to be and so i made this definition i allowed them to define me and then i was redefining myself in that time that i
took away and i allowed myself to breathe allowed myself to be whatever it i may be within that day or 10 minutes forever changing and ever evolving and there was a point where i was you know kind of stunting myself and holding myself back from becoming and now i've become myself ourselves so now my whole thing is like not only be yourself because right we
got we know that cliche we know that like yes be yourself whoever that may be but now it's plural be yourselves whatever you may identify as and whatever you are drawn to and and want to become so in that time there's a lot of growth and a lot of like spiritual awakening my forehead always hurts because my third eye is seeing things now yeah but it's been fun and i'm i'm so
grateful to my audience for allowing me to have that break and allowing me to be a human instead of you know the character the persona that i created online yeah i love that be yourselves be yourselves i love that so that's almost like giving your permission to be more than one thing be more than one thing identify as many you are you know i i in the industry i'm this
host or i'm this actress or i'm on this personality whatever that may be in your in your real life it's who you are at work who you are at church who you are at you know whatever you wherever you may go you are these different versions of yourself and allowing yourself to be and accept yourself yourselves i love that yeah that's such great advice i think you're so right that we
get so caught up in our definition of what we think we should be and then we get caught up in the definition of what everyone thinks we should be i think it's i think it's the japanese say we have three faces so the first face is the face that we show to the world the second face is the face that we show to people that are closer to us and the third face
is the face we show to no one else those are the three faces and i'm sure there's multiple other layers of that but it's interesting what you're saying is actually like embrace all of them yeah embrace all of them and that face that you don't show to the world is the hardest to show but i think it's like it's what the industry needs and it's what you do essentially is like is
showing the world that it's okay to be who you are behind the curtain but in front of it as well like that's that's the most exciting most vulnerable most relatable part that you can be is like accepting of your feelings and your emotions that's the hardest part but is it's what we need so i'm thankful for it that's so beautiful and compliments are now over so yeah
calm down all right i get it i have a whole podcast very successful actually keep listening just want to come i love it and i love what you're saying earlier like this that really got me thinking and i didn't know that you were saying that you started to realize that you built characters to express certain feelings or because of what you were going through yeah
take us through that because i think that's fascinating oh thank you i mean i didn't know i was crazy and then i found out as i had this like level of awareness you hit your 20s man that hit me like a brick i ran straight into a wall when i hit my 20s and i'm grateful for that wall because it allowed me to stop and like pull back and listen um to what i was
doing into myself into the world so i created these crazy characters one because i'm a real good looking man i look good in a bowl cut and that is a hard thing to achieve his name was jet or his name is still jet he's still with us i sounded like he died he's fine he's doing well he's thriving um but yeah no he was this character that i created a little bowl cut a little mustache
um always wearing black he looks real dapper he thinks he's fantastic at everything but he kind of sucks but he has this like unspoken also very loudspoken confidence of like i i can't do anything and i embody you know uh my truth always which is that i'm great and i believe in that even if you know physically i can't prove that so he's really bad at sports
he can't do a single thing he's awful he's the world's greatest olympian in his book but in everybody else's he's just crazy but he he was basically what i needed so i needed that that confidence that just like entire like almost delusional belief in oneself and that's i forget who said it it's probably somebody on this very inspiring wall but someone said you
have to be a bit delusional oh it was it was yeah ali he said you have to be a bit delusional in order to believe in yourself that nothing has ever been done before that you are able to provide the world and so i i created this jet to be this branch of confidence that i needed and that was a form of myself that sometimes you step into that power of confidence and you're not sure what the
hell you're doing but you look you're confident doing it um and you're just leaning into fear instead of you know letting it control you but yeah then this other version was helga who's a very like maternal figure she is uh she's from somewhere she sounds a bit like this i don't know where she's from i say she's not from anywhere so i don't offend anyone hello
[Laughter] there you go she's just she's from the world she's cultured she just picked up an accent she's actually just you know from minnesota but she was this like maternal figure i moved out at 19 and i didn't have my mom in my life in l.a um and i had her blessing to move out here but i didn't have the guidance that you know i wanted or craved so i created her and she was you know
the very outspoken confidence too of like knowing and being sure in her word and what she believes so that's who i created for that and then this little liza is this young version of myself that has you know she's kind of unaware she's innocent she ignorance is bliss kind of thing and we all have this inner child in which we embrace at times but sometimes
sometimes we also shove down we don't want to be too crazy too big or wear too many colors at the same time um and and that's what little liza was for me she allowed me to embrace you know the the younger characteristics of myself and and it was me not wanting to step into adulthood either i'll tell you that my midlife crisis she was holding me
back from me you know what i'm saying so i created her in order to allow myself to play and we should all just be allowed to play and have fun and not you know conform to whatever society may be saying they want to see um but then yeah those are my characters and they're all different branches of me and so i created all of them and now i'm kind of bringing them all together as one
which is just me and that's the lies that we see on live zone demand and that's liza you see on lives on demand is her like you know being a little confused about what to do with her career but um thank you for tying it back into the show god dang you are good at this um you see that that version of me that like is is embodying everything and embracing
everything about herself so yeah yeah i love that i'm so glad that you shared that because i think and i'm guessing when you actually created them you didn't know that no i had no idea it's in hindsight now that you've reflected and you've looked at those roles and you've been like oh that's why i did that and i love that because what you're saying is so true there's two things i
want to point out to the audience which you've just done here is when you look at what ali said is like ali said that you know he said he was the greatest before he was yeah and so that's exactly the point of like he was saying that to convince himself not really to convince anyone else but then going through that process he did become yeah and in the same way
steve jobs had something called reality distortion field so that's where you're creating a almost not slightly delusional but a aspirational version yeah of who you want to be yeah and you're creating it so that you can then become that and then martin luther king used to put on glasses yeah so todd herman who i interviewed and wrote the book the alter ego effect he
talked about how martin luther king used to wear glasses because they made him feel more confident me and martin luther king have so much in common i mean like i actually have i didn't wear them today because i just want to like look you directly in the eye but i have a pair of fake glasses that i wear all the time no wait that's right because it makes me feel like so much
more like regal and like do you read them to meetings and stuff i wear them to meetings because i feel like they take me more seriously you see like a little five foot gnome waddle into the office you're like well i'm going to listen to this this is going to tell me an idea a good idea and i put my glasses on and i become just like hey yeah i got some things to say i've seen the world and
let me tell you about it like you're mine is the gig being the king yeah it's amazing i have dreams too i love it no but and this and that's something i wanted to talk about there like one thing i get from speaking to you today and obviously courtney who we both love yes and and when she talks about you to me and from what i've observed i i think of anyone who's
anything that you've accomplished externally but also just the person that you are i think i'm trying really hard not to compliment you i know as i talk about this say what you love about me but the thing i find is that i don't think people should underestimate people based on their age or their professional experience because i'm like when i see what you've
achieved externally in terms of everything we talked about and who i see you as a human and just how you've just reflected on how you created roles like that's not a i don't know about the time i took a year off youtube man i had a lot of time to think and journal and meditate you know yeah but it's like that reflection is super mature like people don't realize for decades
that they've been creating personas to play and not knowing who they are and figuring out their identity like that's something we do for our whole lives and so i think anyone who's judging someone or questioning someone's ideas when they're walking through their room because of how they look and how they dress and how old they are i mean that needs to go for sure that
needs to go for sure don't judge a book by its cover because there's a whole story on the inside that you're about to find out if you're willing to listen yeah yeah and how have you how have you dealt with that with like you know you're creating shows you're hosting shows like how have you dealt with that to be able to display without having to like defend
yourself yeah because i feel like you do that pretty well display defend there's another d word i say disarm so i immediately that's my my favorite thing to do is like disarm and that's what i use my humor for is i i either compliment what you just did by the way thank you for all those compliments that you said you weren't going to give any more of
you either you the compliment or you disarm you allow them to know like yo we're all just here we have really cool jobs and like what we're doing is a blessing to do every day so to walk in and just immediately like yo just let's set the temperament now let's let's enjoy ourselves let's have a good time let's let's you know acknowledge the world around us and and the fact
that we're living this life is so cool so that's that's my go-to um when walking into a meeting that i'm feeling nervous about um because that's what i want for somebody to do for me i want them to make me feel comfortable so allowing someone complimenting someone is making them feel comfortable and who they are and like taking a second to acknowledge and notice what
they've done to themselves whatever that be um but yeah so i think for me it's just stepping in and being bold and being confident and being that version of myself i tap into my my jet or i put in my put on my glasses and i allow myself to firmly believe that i have something to say and you know if you're receptive and you're ready to listen then you're in your place and if you're not
and you want to shut down that idea then that's all right i forgive you you there's there's something that you're working through and when you work past it maybe you will see hopefully i pray for you more clearly yeah i love that that's awesome don't display or defend disarm yeah i think that's beautiful i think that's such a thank you i've i've never thought about it like
that like i i almost feel like i've practiced some of it i've never really consciously understood that in that word awareness i think that yeah and i think you've just made me conscious of and you've woken me up to it's beautiful it's like that's such a powerful point that i think if we can always look when we walk into meetings or we walk into an interaction or anything to
disarm everyone so that we can allow ourselves to be more ourselves sure i think i think that's beautiful i think that's such a great practical takeaway because i think we all get so lost in we always walk into a meeting and feel like i'm gonna have to defend myself today i'm gonna have to like stand up for like i'm i'm i'm there so we start looking at
all of our things that people could pick out like i'm going to build myself up or we go like i'm going to show what i'm good at i'm going to display and i just that's a huge takeaway for me yeah that's massive yeah i'm going to teach you one thing you've taught me so many like how many posts you have on instagram yeah that many things you've taught me that many things and more now you just
worked me up to i think that's a huge point i just think if we can walk into every interaction in our lives yeah and think how can i disarm the other person and disarm myself humanize you human humans yeah that's beautiful yeah hey thanks man that's what i love to do is just like make you feel comfortable in whatever heightened or relaxed environment that
you're in like this is so relaxing to be here and just talking to you it's definitely it's different than met gal for sure just to brush the brush and dirt off my shoulder i mean you were doing all the interviews on matt geller standing on like this podium right that wasn't powering in itself that was empowering i'm five feet tall i was wearing four inch heels i was
five four but they still needed more and you had to wait for everyone to walk the whole carpet and you were standing there as like the gatekeeper ready but you were amazing everyone seemed to love talking to you thank you thank you who was the conversation that you remember that kind of left an impact yeah i mean i have to say i love stephen colbert
so like last year was my first year doing that gala this year i kind of like came back and and felt more comfortable and in my power for sure but uh last year i just geeked out over stephen colbert and from that i was invited to be on his show which was amazing and it was just a chain reaction of fortunate events yeah so it was it was cool but uh he
he just you know he has a platform and i think he uses it in amazing ways and he does the same disarming so i'm just inspired by people i watch all the time and yeah yeah it was cool but let me think who else um it's wonderful just like seeing people this year especially the the theme was camp yeah so you could go as hard as you wanted to and i had a whole pocket full of like could have
been hot cheetos that i was selling on the side which i'm sure people would have appreciated because inside you just get one chicken breast which yeah just a chicken breast and a little scoop grains i think uh anna winter's paleo uh she was ensuring everybody else was following her diet um but no i had a like my arm was missing so my arm was inside this giant
pocket the whole time it was just like flaccid in there the whole time and didn't see the sunlight um it's a little more pale to this day um but it was cool because everybody was just expressing themselves and like they were decorating their spirit that day or their soul that day which i like to say because they were just having fun and being who they are and
embracing it so it was fun yeah it's awesome i remember you describing lady gaga's outfit changes on the carpet i was like this is brilliant like i was just because you can see it from afar and you're like you're going through the motions that everyone got to go through on the pictures afterwards but i think you did an awesome job and and i love how again like i i think
you are constantly giving everyone who's listening everyone who watches you are permission to be themselves because you always are like i just don't see you change in in different forums and different you know whether it's the streamies where i first met you last year or whether it's you know the met gala whatever like you're always emanating who you are and i think that
that's a beautiful thing i think holding on to that at such a young age like you're only 23 years old and i think that's amazing that you've just been able to really understand yourself and be comfortable in your own skin and i'm glad it looks like that that's what i'm saying i think i might be a good actress because because i am you're i became comfortable
with being uncomfortable and i love the skin i'm in but i'm always trying to understand what exactly is inside so that that willingness to be open and accept whatever may come out yeah well that's it that's what's beautiful about it like that's even more powerful what you've just said there like you're constantly trying to understand like that constant like awareness and
actualization going on is what people need to do yeah i love that amazing awesome well tell me tell me about what i was really fascinated by is like obviously you've done all of this great social media work like you've you know an amazing platform amazing audience people love you like you know and and it's just what i was fascinated by is then you go and create a show
and and as i was pointing out earlier to me it's another level like the writing is incredible the scripting is incredible the you know all the jokes and the punch lines the character style the the other characters that are involved which is different to you being characters it's now you interacting yeah with real other people which is different from your work
tell me about the process of actually building a show oh man because i feel like it's a massive undertaking i mean building a youtube audience on youtube is hard enough but then to like transition tell us about that transition how much time do we have um okay so basically i hope you like the sound of my voice by the way just checking in mid podcast because i've been talking a lot and i
appreciate you guys listening i was actually to say you have a great podcast voice thank you if you ever want to you know start a podcast i'll be back you were saying that on the phone yesterday like a podcast is a great way to make friends you wanted to have deep conversations with people literally yeah i've literally been like i've said to a few people like i'd
love to hang out and they're like yeah i'd love to too and i'm like uh can you come on my podcast i'm like oh yeah when do you want me to come on i'm like great like but no i i do believe that podcasts are very intimate conversations and it's a chance to go vulnerable quicker yeah and i can ask whatever i feel like on a podcast truth and sometimes when you're off off camera
or off micro you can't you don't always feel like you can yeah but on a partner you know whatever and like so anyway but yeah i love that i love that sorry my add kicked in what was the question again the question was i'm just trying to i guess there's two parts to this question let me break it down the first part of the question is what do you think people misunderstand
about the life of a creator like i want to understand like how challenging it is to do what you've done like you know all the kind of the process it's taken to build the social platform yeah and then the second part of the question is i want to hear that how how interesting the transition was from social media to them building a show yeah right yeah
okay so i will say the life of a creator is an interesting one it's you you don't get bored you definitely there is no idle mind i will say you are you are constantly working and it depends what kind of content you're creating right so we have vlogs that are out there you have your scripted content that's out there you have just podcasts i mean you have you have it all so from
for myself i i started off doing vlogging and i enjoyed that but i wanted to like build i wanted some kind of like structure some kind of you know formula method to my madness if you will and i i created all these scripts and all these characters right and so that was me literally dragging around a tripod in my room and finding lighting and just googling everything how do i what camera does
what and what what does this so starting off from scratch and creating kind of my own i didn't know what it was but my production company and that's what i was doing but really for me it was just like creating videos and having fun and being this these versions of myself and putting myself out there um and little did i realize i was acting too i just didn't
know even though i was looking at a white like i just didn't know that me looking at a white wall dressing up as a different version of myself was acting until like the label was placed whenever i was like oh that's why does it feel so familiar when i do this you know on set with other people oh because i've been doing this alone in my living room
for years you know making my own like audition and my own reels online well that's what's so cool about social media is like you create your own real your own resume online so you can show the world what you can do if placed in another environment or given another chance of some sort so that's what i was doing in in my own living room and creating that but it takes hours hours
of scripting and and making sure the language is right and you're trying to get the message across and um you know costume changes on my own and switching to those characters and i'm i'm better at night i'm surprised i'm a high functioning human right now during the day look at that it's probably because you got blackout curtains yeah it feels like yeah yeah it
feels like night it was chill um but i i filmed everything from like probably i'll start at like 10 p.m and go until 4 am and just change into all these different characters because i just like was better on and and and more in a performance mode at night so i i did that and then i would go to sleep and i'd wake up and immediately start editing and editing is the longest process takes
like days and days that's why this is so believing i'm like you don't have to edit this really you just gotta chop into these different angles hi how you doing now you're on jay now you're back homie we're acknowledging the visuals guys for those of you listening to the audio um but yeah no i i i was you know taking it too it took a very long time
and i think that's what you see a four-minute video but what went into that was four days or what went into that was a week in that 10-minute long video so like it there's a lot that you don't see that goes into making this one baby there's a lot of parents not just two yeah yeah but in this case for my channel it was just me i was just a single parent of all these babies i was
making online just taken care um and then i got to meet my other parents and i got to you know co-create and and that was exciting for me stepping into a different world of creation when it comes to lies on demand and um you know stepping into the writer's room and and being able to work with all these mad geniuses who have these stories and ideas and experiences that i get to
you know throw into my show and and have these bouncing around ideas and and it was just so fun to be collaborative um creating on what i did online was so fun and it was exciting but it was very isolating at the same time i was on my own and i felt like i had to be on my own and that was the rectangle that i had to break out of um or the box i say rectangle because
that's what you're watching on your phone right that's how you're watching your little baby movies so that's that was me you know breaking out of just being this solo act i did the opposite of what beyonce did i found my destiny's child i created my destiny with others um and then we made children together so so i got to make this this whole show with like all these
incredible creatives and and for them to be willing to work with me and put up with me i'm so i'm so lucky because it was it was fun to produce and write and be in that writer's room for hours instead of alone in my living room on the couch and and and being in production and figuring out how we're going to do this as a team instead of me dragging around that
tripod and they're both equally as amazing and and those experiences made me who i am and gave me the experience and knowledge that i needed to transition over into traditional quote-unquote traditional because i think everything's just entertainment now forget this traditional digital let's blur that line thank you for saying that yeah that's what i always try to do
no matter what i do in my career like i want to blur that line like will smith's doing like he's he will smith is my favorite youtuber which is crazy that's wild right so to blur that line and just call it entertainment's exciting um but yeah all of those experiences helped me into into this new one and i'm grateful for anybody who's willing to watch and join
me on the journey as i evolve yeah 100 will all be watching for sure i want everyone who's listening to it thanks for the views yeah yeah no i think everyone should watch it just because i think it's it's what's interesting for all of us and especially those of you who have already been a part of your audience for years and those who are new to your audience it's like i think we're
getting the fortune of watching creators evolve like that's special yeah like i'm like i'm not meeting you or like people are not meeting you when you got your first big break people people are being able to watch the whole journey yeah the growth the evolution of someone and i'm like imagine you got to do that with leonardo dicaprio imagine you got to do
that with leonardo is one of my favorite people in the world like just like imagine you got to do that with someone like you got to watch someone grow and evolve and take the next step and you know all of that stuff and i think that's special yeah to be able to have that with someone and so when i'm seeing you and i'm like you see vine and then you see
youtube and then you see like you've got your own show and like then you're hosting nickelodeon it's like you're getting just like we're getting to be a part of that and i think if all of us should be making the most of being a part of those journeys because those are stories you get to tell in the future yeah those are things that uh you know you can't you can't join someone at
their start of their journey ever again sure sure right and not like this is the start of your journey at all but i mean like no one's ever gonna get to be a part of this part of your journey yeah without watching it now yeah and you can always go back and watch it and see where i came from and actually i've never deleted anything on instagram never ever you can go back to my very first
post you can go back to everything that i've ever created that's impressive go find a vine i didn't have an option they just deleted the whole thing it just died you tried you tried to keep it alive i tried to give it up couldn't i went over into youtube um but yeah no i it's exciting to see that whole journey and there was something that someone said to me that
i believe it was someone that worked with nicole kidman who was you know we knew her as this movie actress and that she started doing big little lies and you know people were hesitant to walk up to her as a movie actress like seeing them you're paying to see nicole kidman on the big screen like there's this there's this level of like there's a filter in between
you and her like you feel like it's a you can't touch her yeah um but then when she was on big little lies she stepped into the living room into the homes of so many and apparently people would you know come up to her and say i love your work and immediately go in for a hug without asking nicole kidman can i give you a hug and it was just immediate connection and
she was confused by it because you know to go from people not not speaking to you for whatever reason and then to being a part of their family and sitting down and being a part of their story she was shocked by it because there's a level of comfort there now now creators we are with you we are on the toilet with you we are in bed with you i have slept with
people i don't know about and it is and it's wild to me how intimate that experience is and how intimate it is to share your story via vlogs or whatever and you're seeing behind the curtain more than ever now so it's exciting that's why all these celebrities too are wanting to get into youtube and show the process so fingers crossed leonardo dicaprio has a youtube channel
yeah which will save the planet too i mean that would be the best yeah that'd be so cool that would be so cool tell me about you you've said before that life has been and and when i'm i'm feeling your energy today and i'm sensing it's you're in a great place like things are exciting and every but you have said before like you know life is like equal parts joy equal parts pain
tell me about that like what does that mean to you and and how do you process that and how does that help you grow oh man you i mean you wouldn't know the joy without the pain like i am i am full in my power right now and i feel good and i feel proud of everything that i've worked on and everything that i am and have become um but there were many many times where
i was just living in in shame and and you know spiraling of sorts of like who am i and and trying to identify myself and what i am and what i'm doing and what i'm meant to do and i feel like that's a description of your twenties it's so true it's just so true thank you thank you for sitting there i really like i'm i'm ready for 2020. i think i'm going to tease a series that i don't
even know if i'm going to do it but i can't wait to be like in the 20s living in the 20s but i work on it we'll figure it out feel that guys still the editors i'm going to manifest please do i please do it please do it i will i will try because i i really want i wish there was some kind of guidance from my 20s outside of my sisters who have helped me so much
um shout out to them um but yeah they you know it's it's such an interesting time where you're like trying to identify yourself like going through high school again like what what group do i you belong to do i sit at this table do i sit at that table but for you it's in your 20s and there's no distinguishing like i'm in high school now i'm in college
and now that's why i'm not friends with that person because we went to different high schools but now it's just like life and now it's just like oh i'm not friends with that person because we just we grew apart temporarily or maybe it maybe just for life and that's okay because they served a purpose in my life at one point and i've learned from them and i've loved
them and every experience of them but like no longer does and and and so it may be and maybe life will bring people back together at some point but i definitely lived in in such shame of myself and that was from unfortunately reading comments online for a little bit too was receiving feedback and and and quote-unquote validating but quote-unquote validating a feeling that
i was already internally feeling but from an external source which was all these comments online um and i was like oh they're seeing me they're seeing me i don't want them to see me um and and allowing myself to you know feel those feelings and lean into those feelings and let myself sit with them and figure out why i'm feeling that what's the root of the problem
instead of shoving it down even further and not allowing myself to feel it because society tells us you know you can't feel or put out anything but being happy and that's why i'm glad for this i'm so happy for this generation this younger generation who knows and they're learning through media that has become even more vulnerable through people like you who have encouraged us
to allow ourselves to feel every feeling and and and experience it and and and figure out what exactly is going wrong and what what childhood trauma did i go through in which that it's bleeding into adulthood um and and so allowing myself to sit and journal and meditate or you know whatever solutions you may find for yourself like i i did that and i'm i'm glad that's what
i did in that year too was give myself that time and i've come out this of the fire being this phoenix just like cool like you're like ready to like serve the world because you know i gave that time and i served myself and that's what i want to do is be generous of the energy that i've harvested for myself and and give it to others so um but yeah that definitely there was a
time i think it was at the continuum conference yes i remember i was just i was not feeling the utmost myself and or myself and i it wasn't wasn't my strongest place but even just sitting with you in that moment and you just like kind of empowering me and through what i do i was like oh he sees something i don't see right now i hope i see what he sees one day
you know like you were just you were so kind and so giving at a time that i really needed it and so i thank you for that my nostrils are flaring because i'm trying to hold back tears because there is a visual your podcast you can't hear my shaky voice but i was grateful for that i really really truly grateful and i was grateful for the strangers that smiled
at me at a time where i couldn't smile myself yeah yeah that's so beautiful thank you for sharing that i think it's so important for people to hear that because and i loved what you said that i do think that we're at a time when your generation especially and this generation right now is allowing itself to explore and i think when i remember even with me and i'm only you know
a little bit older than you but yeah yeah all right yeah yeah yeah but it's like i remember thinking that my 20s i was told anyway my 20s had to be when i figured it out yeah like it was already figured out yeah like by the time you finish college or university you have to have it figured out and i went off and became a monk so i totally went off
like if there's any way to say i don't agree with the system it's becoming a monk it's like you know it's like completely anti-inflammatory it's totally rebellious like i always say becoming a monk is one of the most rarest things i could have ever done because it's totally anti uh the systems and the establishment it's like it's like basically saying i don't value material
things and so when i went off and did that i spent and i can and that's why i can testify and totally agree with everything you're saying i spent my whole 20s figuring myself out and learning not that i figured it all out and that i'm done now but at least one phase of that cycle was what i dedicated my 20s to like i i made my first video when i was 28.
wow that was one of my first 29 28 29 so two three years ago is when i made my first video and that was the first time i'd made any piece of media yeah and but but i'd come it was coming from a place of i've just spent my 21 to 28 just reflecting thinking meditating figuring stuff out in tension reflecting it wasn't just like it wasn't just like oh yeah let's make
video you know it wasn't like that and i think hearing you say that is so beautiful because i think that applies to whenever anyone who's listening or watching has that reflection yeah so if you have that reflection at 30 that's your 20s if you have that reflection of 40 that's your 20s yeah you know it's like there's no number on it no none and you're constantly you're
forever be a student like you're constantly learning and you're constantly like trying to figure out you're always trying to figure it out whatever it may be and and to not have it figured out is comforting to come to as a solution at least for me it's like being like oh you know what i don't know someone asked me what they thought my uh someone asked me what's your purpose
what do you think your purpose is i was like multi-purpose i'm like a cleaner of sorts i can do hardwood floors or glass surfaces like i i don't know i'm trying to figure that out like i i don't have it figured out and i'm okay with that so i think like i agree that learning and unlearning of what you've learned before like it's it's constantly changing as our world around
us changes right and i think i think the challenge that we set ourselves up for which you're doing articulating so well is when we're in the process of reflection figuring it out introspection whatever that may look like it doesn't have to look a certain way yeah that's the place we're going to be forever anyway you just don't want to be in the place
of either saying okay i found it and i'm done yeah or i'm not even going to bother yeah to be in the process because i think those both extremes can be quite isolating and scary when you're like okay i'm done now i know i found my purpose yep i found it and i've been at times in my life where i actually was on that end where i was like i know exactly what my purpose i know
exactly what i'm doing yeah and that also makes you go backwards and then yeah like you don't want to be i look at you and i'm like oh he's got it figured out like i'm i'm over here saying i'm okay without figuring it out but jay let me tell you about jay he's no he knows everything yeah no and and i i'd say i'm i always think life is in percentages
like i don't i think life is percentages i don't think life is ever 100 or 00 it's 99 it's 87 it's 93 like everything is proportionate right it's not like you've got it there are times in my life where i'm like okay i'm 95 on track but there's five percent i've got to leave that space to figure out more and to get to the next phase and learn and grow yeah but if i ever go okay i'm 100 done
now yeah then it's kind of like well then i don't need to then i don't need to be or do it conch out totally yeah exactly yeah power is like okay it's your time exactly and i think it's just making i just want to be always shifting my percentage in the right direction but i don't ever get to a point where it's zero or a hundred yeah you know so that's beautiful i love
that yeah i just think like life is phases and phases change and naturally you're going to go through different transitions in your life yeah and and i just think that we we try and get out of transitions quickly but transitions are the time to spend time in like that's where you want to spend your time is in the transition and get it right because when you rush a transition you
end up at a destination you don't want to be at right so yep right i don't know you're inspiring me right now i'm just saying this based on what i'm just trying to validate what i'm hearing you say at 23 and i'm like i'm 31 now and i'm listening to you and i'm like that is exactly what i was doing when i was like 23 like i was a monk so yeah they're
practically the same like you know the same thing but you know that's what this is this is what you wore as much this is where i was colors yeah the nails yeah the acrylics but no it's the same process that's what i'm loving hearing about yeah yeah yeah well thank you thank you i'm glad i mean that's crazy that that that that's a process that you have to you see your ex and maybe say process
process i say process process yeah that's a process process that you have to go through um and and you never you kind of never stop going through it what percentage would you say you're at today that's oh food oh you put me on the spot yeah yeah this is my podcast this is i'm definitely in the i'd say in the 80s and the 90s nice so like yeah 80s of the night like
yeah you know 80s or 90s and it's getting closer but i'm never looking for and i think you've you've said this beautifully like multi-purpose i think that's a great we got to change the podcast name guys it's not on purpose it's multiplayer multiplayer like but i i think that i i resonate with that yeah like i get what you're saying there right i think that
that's what you do yeah and i think that your purpose should always evolve because if it's not evolving and you're not giving it space to grow and change and deepen yeah then then you're just stuck doing one thing or believing one thing that you only should do but you only should do and be and achieve one thing and then i'm just like but that's not real and i've not seen
the greats do that and i've not seen people i admire do that and and also i just don't think that's realistic so but i feel very on purpose and that's why i call the podcast on purpose is because i always want to feel am i on purpose like am i going in the right direction you know is you know and that's how i feel and my life is very on purpose and
everything's intentional yeah but it's not all figured out and i think you know you can figure out the intention but you can't that you can't define you can't expect a result yes yeah does that make sense i don't know if any of that makes sense but what's insane is that you say the most profound prolific things you're like did that make sense no but i'm being serious
because i'm just flowing and saying stuff and i'm like this is the float the flow made sense man i'm so glad you're recording like i'm glad this is being recorded so you know you can look back and be like i'm a genius yeah that was a good episode this is a good episode because of you the other thing that really that stuck out to me was um this whole process that i was thinking about
of you have often mentioned that you even experience like social anxiety right and you talk about it a lot you address it a lot and i think when people first see you and like what you're saying about me like when i see you and again what you've done it's like you're like i don't know but liza is like confident like she's got it figured out and the same
way you're saying about me like when you see me like oh but jay's got it figured out and it's like i think when people hear us like when i'm like no actually it's percentages and i'm figuring it out it's not only good for everyone to hear that it's good for me to know that but for you to say hey i'm a social media person but i've actually explained social anxiety like walk me
through when you felt comfortable saying that but more importantly like what have you seen has helped you with that or how have you managed that oh man oh man good question that's deep um okay we'll be back we don't have 30 minutes we're back after this short commercial break that's actually 30 minutes long no i i believe i'm trying to pinpoint
the exact moment where i became comfortable i think i made a video about anxiety and it was my you know kind of like my social thoughts and it was very like surface level of you know i was trying to bring humor integrating humor into actual like social anxiety commentary or social commentary um and it was it was tough for me you know it got especially interesting or
controversial in the comments because we're like that's not anxiety or that's not how i experience anxiety and we all experience it in different ways right there's different different i don't even want to say levels because not no level is worse than the other because there's it's just your own experience and it's your interpretation of life or social interactions or you know some
people have anxiety about death and like i've talked about many different types of anxiety but i think that was the moment in which i i thought comfortable and appropriate in a time for me to speak out about it was creating that video um but i do have social anxiety and i think speaking about it and even hearing people like yourself who appear to have
it all figured out just like i even said no jay knows everything um to hear that that you do or experience anxiety or nerves it disarms people and it just allows them it humanizes you and allows you to know that you experience these other emotions outside of the confidence that i i also admit emit and and it's it's what i strive to do is to show people that you can feel
confident no matter what situation but um my social anxiety definitely became like even social media anxiety and i was like scared to put myself out there online um which i was scared to put in which i was scared to put myself out there in in real life and it kind of went hand in hand and i will say with like my social anxiety i even was nervous coming here today i'm even nervous
i fluctuate and flow just throughout the course of this podcast i'm like yo i said that and that was dope wait no i can't say anything that tops that i have to i have to have something else more profound i gotta whip out google real quick and quote gandhi real fast or something i need to peek um like there's waves ebb and flow of your mind and and so many thoughts happen
per second per minute and you know i i've i with my social anxiety i also have a little bit of derealization where i do realize and i question reality i think that's my like creative side of my brain going and being like is this real this occurs here and you're like what was in my drink earlier just like you know you have ebb and flow of like confidence and then lowered
confidence and that can happen within the span of five minutes or a couple of days or a couple of years and you know you might stay down low for a little bit but the fact that you know you can come back up and and when you are low to know to think of times where you felt high and to experience that that gratitude that you you know you can feel that happy that's what i i
cling on to most you cling onto most you can't feel any other feeling but gratitude when experience experiencing gratitude and i'm so thankful for that because in my times of darkness i just feel grateful that i know what light feels like and so that's that's what i hold on to at all times but i forgot the question again what happened no no no
no no no there was the ebb and flow right there just me being like i think i said that right that's like the reacting does that make sense do you get what i'm saying yeah for those words yeah yeah yeah like because in my mind it just sounded like random words together no no you have answered the question i i think that's i love the way that you even brought it into this podcast
and and i think that's why we look to make we try to have shorter phone calls we try to message people instead of meet them like this is all part of that anxiety because trying to be interesting for a long period of time is tough like you know we or we we put that pressure on ourselves of like oh crap like i don't think i can go on this date because i've got to be
interesting for 30 minutes on a date whereas if i just message her or him then that's gonna you know whatever it is and so i feel like we avoid and i think just the fact that you just mentioned sitting you're right now you are sitting on a podcast talking about how you've felt anxiety on this podcast breaking out right and and the ebbs and flows and i
think that's awesome because i think the beautiful thing is that when we lean away from our anxiety that's when it gets scary because we just ignore it we try to bury it we try like push it away but when you lean into it you're like oh i can see you like i see you i i'm aware of you and and i know when i feel you and when you appear in my life yeah and i know
that gratitude is going to help me and how do you recall those grateful moments of you feeling that light is that have you written them down do you ever meant do you have an amazing memory where you're remembering them is it is it something you're wearing like earlier you were talking about the t-shirt with the yeah you know be humble be brave be humble be brave i have i have a lot of
like shirts like that that like something just like wearing all these colors makes me feel bright like yes it's kind of like a costume depending that helps me feel what i'm feeling on the inside and kind of accentuates that so yes i do wear like a lot of shirts that say like be grateful be humble be this be that um just as a reminder to me and anybody
who's you know receptive to reading my shirt whoever has really good ideas that is really tiny and minimalistic and aesthetic in the middle of your shirt um but no i i have i have a journal i journal a lot i journal i also do the most millennial thing where i video diary and i make videos and i make videos in my time of even darkness where i kind of like
get analytical and explain to myself how i'm feeling are these the videos we're seeing or you're making these are not the videos yeah that's what i'm saying i've seen videos you've put out i'm just like yeah yeah and those are my those are my more like lighthearted videos obviously that i put out there into the world but i do have these like very intense videos where i'm like
trying to figure out why i feel a certain way and it's just for me to kind of have it's like a personal video but i'm constantly making content it's just a matter of whether or not you see it but it for me it allows me to like emotionally release because you know i think i don't think any millennial has good handwriting we just we do not pick up pens or paper or pencil
i just the books in here are freaking me out because the amount of paper cuts that could happen it's a dangerous place we're in right now guys but like i i have i i don't journal as much as i do video journal i guess um or i make these own my own versions of podcasts that i'll never release but they're they're audio audio of me just like working things out and and
i see myself slowly get to like a place of comfort and and positivity and light again you know as i you know work through you know the feelings of darkness kind of thing so i eventually get myself back but it is it's a lot of reminders it's your posts it's literally your posts that remind me and feed me because i i even said before that your feed can sometimes starve you
of reality of what real life is because we're constantly scrolling and looking down um and like you're looking down how can you not feel down that's you know and so right i cannot feel down when you're looking down at somebody else live their life and you're you're busy watching you know so i you know i i fed my feed when i was going through that time to make sure i had that that positive and
perspective you know from others who were willing to share their stories and i knew you know this is my problems are so small and and everything what i'm going through is yes my reality but it's so small in comparison to like how big the world is and there's so much to see and love and experience so yeah i love that those are such practical tips i love that no i
i i think the video journal is is such a great idea yeah i personally prefer audio and video journals to written ones really yeah i actually do because hey i think you're right that the handwriting point definitely but also just the the patience to build a written life i think because we've not been used to it growing up especially your generation even more so the younger
millennials yeah and and it's we're not used to it as much so being able to talk it out and also what i think is really powerful is when you talk it out and then you listen as if you're listening to someone else yeah that you can then hear your problems from a more objective point of view yeah and so i actually think what you're saying is perfect i think doing video or
audio recordings is such a brilliant way of journaling yeah and i think you can hear yourself in your voice and when you talk it out it's like i i think that's such a smart move yeah and i've not heard many people say that but i definitely feel it's i definitely feel that's a huge huge thing i recommend anyone who's listening and watching right now
if you've struggled with journaling in a written form please take liza's tip on doing audio and visual journals and it's such a great thing to be easily looked back upon thank you yeah and jay's tip too because you do it as well which is it's nice sometimes i'll go back and i'll watch myself like not in my power and i'm like i want to give her a hug and that's the
most like feeling of self-compassion you got to remind yourself of too it's like oh like it's okay girl it's going to be all right like i promise you i'm here right now and everything inevitably turned out just okay but you are going to be just fine and then i also make videos for myself where i am fully in my power and feeling confident and make a video saying yo
this remind yourself of this you see this girl right here and like that looked like i was making a tick tock plug tick tock it's great um but like i'll make videos like that even just to remind myself in times of when i'm feeling not so not so hot and i'll go watch that and be like yeah i know she exists i get back to her she's within me at all times all right cool
it's nice yeah exactly you mentioned earlier that you've learned a few things from your older sisters yeah mentioned over you thank you sisters tell me about some of the things you've learned from both of them they warned me about their 20s oh that's good they won that's good they were in the 20s yeah yeah i like that sounds like a good book um but yeah no i
i they warned me about 20s being a tough time and i was 18 was like well i went through whatever i needed to go through because i'm fine don't worry i got it figured out and then 20. hit me like a brick oh it's funny i actually went in for this sidebar yeah as always with my attention deficit disorder but i went in to get tested for attention deficit disorder and they told me you you don't have a d
no we can't give you any medication for that but you have anxiety good luck like that was it that was the end of that doctor's appointment and i was like what i was 18. i was like what like i don't know what you mean then 20 20th birthday hit me and i had the most anxiety i just moved out to la i was experiencing all this new life experiences for the first time and
anxiety just like came at me so it was it was definitely them you know warning me about 20s and then just allowing they told me that like i think my middle sister olivia told me that things are just like temporary like you have to understand that there's a lot that's that's temporary so with that knowledge know to appreciate the moment when it's there
and be very very present when it's there the ultimate goal another sidebar dogs are amazing [Laughter] that seemed random my brain had to like run from like my left-hand side of my brain to the right-hand side to be like what like at the sidebar i'm having sushi tonight but like cyborg the dog thing it's because dogs are so present they're so they're so just there um
they're there with you at any moment they just want to love and be loved and that's that's all they do so i just whenever i say present like if you need a grounding presence it's a dog sometimes so that's another tip if you just go find a dog go to an adoption place and go pet one just be present with that moment um but yeah with that information that things are temporary um to know that
it's not this is this moment doesn't define you it's not who you are um and and that this too shall pass and then also temporary it being like experience that would be grateful that you're there and and and so that that's what i took away from my sisters so i'm grateful to both of them that's beautiful usually talk a lot of crap about them so this is good
this is good this is this is just before family holidays yeah perfect right it's like a family holiday by the way they're all such like my whole family is like such a big fan of yours i'm trying to figure out the right moments to geek out wait you at the next wedding we're both brown we're about to end up at the same wedding at some point i hope so i'm not sure i think you're
like a cooler shade of brown like i'm not sure like if you go to cooler weddings there's like 50 shades of brown at every wedding i'm tanned right now too so this is not this is not the real me yeah you're wet boy aren't you no i'd love to meet them yeah i genuinely love to meet you they would love to meet you it'd be amazing like it would be so nice i love meeting
people's families because i think you know like you took such a big move to move away from your family uh like i know it was hard doing it 28 like as in overall i mean i left earlier when i went to university and became a monk and stuff but yeah i think like you leaving at 19 20 to come to l.a yeah like la's is a big crazy place yeah and but it seems like you've attracted
the right people around you here like i feel like you've kind of you've built a unit or a squad of people there yeah you feel very happy around yeah they understand me and i understand them how did you get to want to figure out who was right to have around you like how did you get because i don't think i don't believe people are good or bad i just think there's right people to have
around you and there's times when it's not the right people to have around you but how did you get a sense of figuring out who you wanted around you like what was it yeah that was i mean there's like this almost instinctual like gut feeling of just like energy and like sounds like such an lay word but vibes bro like vibes of that you get from a person
and you just know that that's that those are your people you feel the utmost sense of comfort and strength even within the first interaction the first minute of meeting them and you're like oh you you are someone i want around because you you keep me in my power and you believe in it even if i don't yeah and that's what courtney courtney carter my manager
she cmg carter love you yeah i love you courtney listening girl she's proud of me she's tearing up right now she's like well she's being real vulnerable um she you know she's my my manager but also like just like my partner in crime my producing partner my my like best one of my best friends and like i spend so many moments with her like uh that i'm i'm so grateful for her just
period um she's awesome she's amazing and like you even you even know in the the going out to dinner with her like you just you just know how how much of a grounding empowering person she is and what a presence she is when she walks into the room so i i you know meeting her one of the first days that i was out in la and it was just a by chance by fate by destiny by
everything the stars aligning and just me meeting her and and finding like my left brain yeah i i say i'm the right brain i get to be all creative and crazy and wear all these colors and then she uses the left brain who keeps me keeps me in line and supports me and like tells me this is logical and this is not and i'm like yeah because i was being emotional i
loved that you had her and she had you yeah like i loved it like i i've said that to a million times i was like i'm so glad that someone as amazing as eliza is with you and and i'm so glad that eliza has someone like you know both ways around like i just think it's awesome and i think that it's it's so important what you just said like whether it's left and right
brain or the right souls that whatever it is like however you want to word it it's so important to have those complimentary people around us yeah because it's hard to find it's not easy at all and and to found it on your first day yeah i mean that's insane insane yeah i mean that's someone's looking out for me i'm just saying i think that's beautiful guy's been working man and he
brought many many angels into my life so i'm thankful for it and she introduced me i think i can't remember i'm a fake fan right now but she introduced me to you i think yeah and and and that's like that was just it's also those people that introduce you to even more good people that it's just the chain reaction of goodness and and and becomes like this whole
family that you you know you got to choose and and and i'm just lucky i'm just really really lucky yeah yeah it's beautiful to hear that you deserve it though i'm happy for you thank you very happy for you you deserve it thank you and i only want more amazing people to come and find you and be with you and i wish you the same and i curse you with all happy people in your life
good people i want to dive in uh more into the show specifically yeah the next season because i think uh it's exciting from a viewer's point of view i'm sure it's exciting from a creative like you said the budget's got better everyone's going to get to see you wear less clothes which is interesting and intriguing like we got a good editor yeah the editor has fully seen me but we
do have a good editor who censored everything so don't worry you're getting a taste there's some left up to the mystery i love it tell us tell us about what has evolved in your character in the season two like what are we exciting to see about your character i'm excited because it's just kind of it is and isn't a reflection of my own personal life so like
liza in the show has gone on many or he's going on dates and like is going out and like oh she's like talking to boys and stuff i'm working on that in real life i don't have any dating apps i'm not your average millennial but but meeting people organically just going to coffee shops and just ordering from the barista like hello how are you going to coffee shops
no no no i can't i totally can't i told again it's really fun like i love meeting everybody that i run into in person it's cool yeah but yeah i gotta try to find me a man at a coffee shop but um no i just head over to the coffee shop starbucks on the break but but no i i i think for liza on the show she's you know she's romantically evolving and like allowing her emotionally evolving
and allowing herself to go on these days and like have fun um she is a little bit more established in her career and so it's it's her becoming comfortable with what she's doing and and and being confident in what she's doing and there's more clarity for her uh she's just having fun like she's just like she like knows what she's up to now and she's like okay now i'm just gonna
like just go boss to the wall or over to the wall if you will with whatever she's doing so she's just having fun i love that fun yeah i love that you mentioned career there is evolving do you feel like the show has helped you find like a newfound respect for like uber drivers and postmate delivery people by playing the role oh yeah yeah thank you for your service
everyone out there yeah literally because those those are the p those are the connective tissue of my life post mates bringing me some food it's crazy what we do man we hire personal assistants through these apps we are so lazy and also the most hardworking generation i know like nicely nicely done right yeah a little slap to the face and then i'll give you a spawn
yeah but like it's it's wild like how we hire these people to do these do these jobs for us for us to go about our day and and it is it's insane but they're i've always had the best uber conversations and always like get to know them and they have many parts to themselves too so like a lot of people have i've seen um like a printed imdb sheet in the back of somebody's like uber no
way yeah i'm not seeing what i like he's like yeah i booked a couple jobs just by having my head shots here in the back seat yeah and like i was like oh that's cool other woman had her daughter's head shots in the back seat now the guy was selling his mixtape and i was like yeah respect yeah i'm not gonna buy it but it's 15 man yeah you got an audio demo
yeah no one has a cds man i don't have a cd player for this um but but there's i mean there's so many people and they're all out there hustling so i i appreciate and like thank them for what they do because i need them in my life yeah yeah what's your process for getting into character like i'm intrigued because you've played so many different characters in your own
world that you explain you play this new character like when i saw you win the streaming last year like your award acceptance speech was just the best so if anyone's not seen it go and find the video on youtube it's up and i i'm gonna give it away anyway spoiler alert but but liza literally starts it off and i was like wow she is so sweet and adorable
and like you know she was like getting emotional she was crying for winning this award and then she switches it on like the sass turns on the you know the the kind of like the the beast comes out you know it's like the beauty and the beast yeah and i loved it and i was just like yeah like how do you get into character like what do you do what's your process oh man
yeah uh uh man i'm trying to figure out i'm not i'm not no uh daniel day lewis i'm not daniella day lewis yeah i do not i do not stay method and character anything like that but i was i guess you could say a little bit method this season in terms of my roommates who i cast last season a year ago um and i remember them stepping in and taking skype calls with them and like casting
them they became my roommates in real life this year no way go glenn if you don't move your stuff out of my room but she is still living with me to this day at this moment oh my god um and then travis coles who's also he also has an amazing show out called david mix man it's on oprah winfrey's network i'm so excited for him um oh yeah and kamiko too just they're two brilliant
beasts and i didn't know i was casting my roommates my real roommates let alone people who became my best friends and like i'm so lucky in that sense too but it was the same like energetic energy when i met met them too um of just like oh yeah you're gonna i have to get used to you you're gonna be around for a while so i put up with them and by around i mean they're right
next door between the thin wall that i have my house is structurally sound we're doing well but but i they're right next door in in the other rooms and we would go home every night read our lines together memorize together light candles and like do squats the same it was the most ridiculously la thing when i looked in my living room and we were running lines
and doing squats and eating dinner together because we had to get it all done at once because we shoot like 14 pages a day which is like a a gnarly amount of content to make in one day um um so it was just it was fun it was really fun it was really crazy that's not off that's not common right is it common for people who are on screen to go and become really really
good friends in real life i've i've heard from yeah what have you heard i'm intrigued i mean i'm i'm friendly as hell i make friends with like i do my best like yeah friends but i'm intrigued because you always wonder that right like when you see on screen romance or chemistry and people are like i wish they were together in real life and like but even with friends like is that
common yeah what have you heard tell me i've heard that that no that fortunate events again if if you become friends real life friends with your with your friends on screen and so it helps the chemistry all the more too like like we're on the clock but we're also just like in the house just hanging out and it's cool to like have that real life chemistry with them so i love hope
it shows on no and i i think that's special i definitely think that i think it's the same in sport like if you're playing on a team and you don't if you're not really friends with the people you're playing with yeah i mean like you can do the right thing yeah but it makes a difference yeah how much you're going to enjoy when you score how much you're going to enjoy
you know all of that i think it affects the performance for sure because you're going to be there how long are you recording every day oh truth by the way i was saying yeah at all that but i have no idea anything about sports so i was just like yeah well you do you just you just had the nike thing at night thing at vidcon that was awful you were playing football
soccer i was i was and it was an interesting that's why take on it yeah i know i was like he thinks i get this right now he thinks i understand keep nodding your head smile and wave smile and wave uh no i i i was so bad i like i had no idea how to play soccer before and they didn't tell me i was playing a full game i thought i was just doing warm-ups so i i went into
a for context i went into a game of soccer at nike or with nike at vidcon and just like i feel like i was bad i was really really really really bad especially because courtney's so good soccer players and she was looking at me with just well you know can't all be good at things you know yeah i love it no but i i think that's the point i was making sports aside yeah
was i do think that chemistry of real friendship shows on screen truth and and i think that's beautiful because how many days i was asking how many hours are you filming per day we film when you're filming how long does it take to create a little over we'll go over 12 hours sometimes in one day that's normal filming day in in hollywood and christmas trees like 12
hours and then if you go over that you go into overtime kind of thing and you're in your little trailer in between no not really no it's like i'm in most most scenes oh jump from one scene okay we wrap that scene we'll go straight into the next yeah go to another area and film that but it's 12 hours so you're spending 12 hours with these people it's great when they're
your friends yep it's really nice you're nice it gets a little awkward but no i'm lucky i'm lucky we had so many conversations off camera on set so it was really cool that's awesome yeah i love that i'm so excited to see how things are evolving and growing for you i'm like so glad that i've met you now and i've got to know you now i'm like yeah i do wish i knew you were 18 but i
did our brown families didn't figure it out but no i'm glad that i met you now because i'm just so excited to see everything you do like i just think you're going to have this incredible personal and professional life for decades and decades and decades and i'm just so excited to be your friend and and be there with you throughout the journey and just see it
just grow and excel even more and more and more like you're going to do incredible things and i think both from a professional point of view but i think also from like the stuff you so effortlessly stand for i think that's what's so powerful about you is that you so effortlessly stand for things like i saw your clean beauty thing recently oh thank you and i was
just like you know it's like i want you to talk about that but i was just like when i saw that i was just like you so effortlessly can stand for so many things because they're just a part of you rather than having to be an activist or an ambassador yeah how do you how do you see that responsibility that comes with having lots of yeah following an audience versus like
just doing what feels natural how have you kind of balanced that yeah i feel like activism or you know whatever it may be doesn't i support i mean anybody who is is standing up for something just to do that alone is just courage and bravery in itself um but for me it's just more so like the way i was raised the foundation i was raised on you know the morale that i was raised on
and being you know eco-friendly as much as as well as i possibly can um it's hard to do there's a lot of plastic it is yeah i love a good coaster and like you know there's like there's there's many things that like i i i appreciate and embody and and hope to do that even with this clean beauty brand that is all natural ingredients organic like the story behind that is that is what
i'm looking forward to sharing even more but like i had eczema growing up and moloska which if you don't know what that is did you yeah everybody did we had rough patches like literal rough patches we went through those rough patches and now we found out like over time after many like product dating and testing you you figure out what works for your skin and some people
are like yeah just wash it with water i'm like you disgust me get out you saving so much money damn you but like you i i started using seymour which was is the beauty brand and it's it's an amazing brand that just all natural ingredients there's no animal testing and like i hope that's a revolution in the beauty industry to just you know switch over into this
entirely vegan line everybody's worried about the vegan food they're consuming what they're putting on the inside what about the outside too your skin that sits on your face so so just to have that i'm excited to embrace and encourage others and empower people to use you know um all that kind of veganism inside and out yeah yeah although i'm not vegan i won't
lie i love some chicken i love that no but it's it's awesome that i i just i really i really mean what i said like i just think this is just the beginning even though for you it probably feels like 23 years right it's like but it's like it's like i just haven't started yet what do you mean yeah like you know yeah you're like why are you putting me back at the beginning
do you understand what i've done like no and i don't mean it that way at all i really mean it in the sense of just like i think you're just gonna i think you have such a big impact on the world and you already are in incredible ways bigger than most people have already and i'm just so excited to see it continue and grow and evolve and i just want you to know that
right here as a friend and you know here for you you know i want you to know that like i mean that because yeah you're special and it's going to be so so exciting to watch for all of us so i'm glad i get to witness thank you like you have no idea like you say you're here for me but you've you've been here for me you have no idea like how how many times you have like saved me in
that sense of of falling into like a pit um so i thank you for that you were a hand when you weren't even physically there but hey so follow him on instagram if you guys are cool that's what i'm going to say i don't want to see no more likes on instagram phone calls and voice notes yes i'm grateful i'm grateful for you man and i'm excited for you thank you for
letting me be a part of your journey so i'm i'm i'm so happy to be here so we we end every interview with what i call the final five this is the final five quickfire rapid fire round i promised you there were no surprises but i lied oh you did learning about me bring it challenge accepted here we go these are so you can answer in max one
word or one sentence i know you're the queen of games like that's way too long you guys know the thing so okay so question number one what's your weirdest habit hmm [Music] my weirdest habit how much time do i have to answer oh man i think just life itself maybe maybe it's um oh oh uh the way i eat um um the left and right twix i bite off all the chocolate and then i suck off
the caramel and then i eat the cookie inside that's gross i used to do this did you do you i don't need you brown mentality i used to do the same thing i used to do the kitkats as well i used to eat the surroundings and then eat the top layer yeah yeah no it's the best way to eat twigs i get it you get to enjoy it you get to enjoy just the chocolate and just
the caramel and just although they're beautiful together i love it okay okay awesome that's question number one second question if you could invent your dream barbecue sauce what would it be made of oh my god i was literally just talking about this earlier uh in tex-mex i mean in texas we have tex-mex you asked the perfect person this question um in texas we have this uh fajita meat
that is marinated in pineapple and lime juice this is not a one-word answer oopsies um and so pineapple lime some kind of tangy sweet and sour sauce that also has a spicy kick at the end i think that would be it sounds great yeah yeah it was like a great is that a good yeah yeah that's great you want the name for it yeah you can give me a name for it
curry spice and we put some kind of curry in there i love it something something awesome question number three uh this is actually i'll end this one so uh who on your team is the one to tell you no like who's me oh yeah i recently just even found out about this word no and then i started using it maybe when i was like 22. and and and i got really excited about it now i say no
i love it awesome awesome i had to ask you this because i saw this years ago before we knew each other obviously because it was a while ago but how does obama smile like um he just smells like like like really really clean laundry like he just did it he washed that shirt over and over and over again so that when someone did ask what did he smell like he was like
they're gonna say clean laundry yeah he that's what he wanted like and also like like a little bit like like like a forest like like like a mystical forest with like fog and like a deer like in the distance he's amazing he's incredible that must have been awesome what an experience is incredible basically like a like a dryer sheet in the woods that's what obama smells amazing this is your fifth
and final question okay so you said you like love this quote success is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm so why that quote why is that quote so powerful for you oh i love that because i've and i think we all do sometimes with our with self-doubt and whatnot we consider certain things or certain experiences or moments to be failures
and if you let that failure bring you down sure you can spiral and yes i encourage you to lean into the feeling of whatever you're feeling but if you if you allow that if you won't let your it won't let you yourself live that moment down you're gonna just feel down forever you know and and so to not lose enthusiasm and to keep believing in yourself and have this
quote unquote delusional confidence then you can keep going and that's what makes you successful is not letting those moments of failures define you but just to keep going and and believing that you have so much to say and and you're going to keep saying it no matter what your mind says about you your mouth i like to say that though recently i've discovered that your mind
can either live in the past and the or the future but your mouth lives in the present and it's true that's so good [Applause] that is so good yeah you need to post that i'm i'm working on it yeah go on say it again sorry i said i cut you off i got too excited oh you're good i love that it was a little cheerleading moment thank you thank you um but like your your mouth speaks the
truth and you you're able to speak your reality my mind might be saying oh no you're not doing well in the podcast right now you're not this isn't what you're saying it's not profound enough for mr g shetty no my my my my mouth is saying a little bit of a stutter but my mouth is saying no i have something important to say and i'm going to say it and perhaps
jay will ooh and he did and so he did so that's mine i love the mind in the mouth man that's such a powerful way of putting it i've never had anyone say that that's amazing i say thanks i say no you said so many things like i just first of all i just want to say everyone who's been listening and watching there have been so many practical gems and like wisdom drops
that you've given everyone like i'm going back to the ones that i've remembered and there's a ton more and i want you guys to find them and share your favorite ones on instagram and tag us both but here are a few that stood out to me disarm don't defend or display disarm right this is what eliza is telling us when we meet someone we can disarm the other person and disarm ourselves to
to be our best selves uh delusional confidence right eliza was talking about like having the ability to just go beyond what we think is possible and like being able to realize that there's an aspirational version of ourselves uh you're hearing the mouth i mean this mouth and mind is like blowing my mind right now i'm like i'm going to use that everywhere i quote
you again and again and again i'm going to put that on it and i just peeked you're watching my peek right now i love that like i think it's such it's so much truth because we believe everything our mind says but if your mouth said something different you could believe that and that could change your mind absolutely absolutely and this is one you can hear
out loud so i love that so many takeaways in this whole episode thank you liza we're so excited for eliza ondemand season two i want everyone to go watch it on youtube uh it's it's gonna be amazing and i want everyone to watch it just to witness this incredible burst of energy and soul that that everyone gets to all the goodness and and you've always said right like your
content has always been to make people smile happy laugh give them some positive outlet yeah and that's what lies on demand is doing in a bigger better way yeah thanks man i appreciate that and yeah please tune in but you keep tuning in to jay's podcast okay i'm just saying it is literally i was listening to one on the way here i was prepping myself for it you know
that's how i get into character it's a study the character i'm about to sit across the table with but uh nice yeah but thank you i like it i like it and i'm going to ask you this because you're such a dear friend and i i want to be able to tell is there anything that i didn't let you talk about today that you'd love to share or anything you're like yeah i really wanted to share this
but you didn't let me or i didn't get done oh like i legitimately like shared more than i thought i was going to amazing okay i wanted to ask you as a friend like as uh yeah straight up looking out for my videos this stays in the podcast i think we went every day yeah i always ask that because i just want to yeah yeah and i want i want this to be
good for you so it's like like i told you yesterday like the whole goal with the podcast is people already love you how can they love you more like that's the goal right that's all it is ah man well my people please anxiety i'd love to hear that you can love me more but yeah i love that thank you thanks everyone for listening and watching i'd love for you to pick
whichever lies a wisdom drop stood out to you and put it on it on instagram tag us both so we can see what you've taken away i love seeing what you're learning i love seeing what you're growing through and remember please please please go and support my amazing friend liza for a new show share the show with others it's gonna be phenomenal to watch i can't wait for you
to see it i'm excited to watch it myself thank you so much for listening i'll see you again next week if you want even more videos just like this one make sure you subscribe and click on the boxes over here i'm also excited to let you know that you can now get my book think like a monk from think like a monkbook.com check below in the description to make sure you order today