the book that I want to talk to you about today is moving the mountain my life in China from the culture Revolution to ten and square and it was written by Lee l Lee Lou is the founder of Himalaya Capital Management which he's been running for about 30 years Lee also had a 20e investment partnership
with Charlie Munger Monger is the way I came to know about leeu because one time Munger was talking about the importance of patience and he told a story where he made 400 or he told the story of how he made about 400 or 500 million from Reading Baron's magazine for 50 years
and Munger said I read Baron's magazine for 50 years the entire time I only found one idea that I could act on only one I made $80 million on that idea basically risk-free and then I took that 80 million and I gave it to leelu and he turned it into 400 or $500 million so
leelu is known to have this cult-like following he's known to have fantastic Financial returns but that is not what this book is about Lee wrote this book in his early 20s when he fled communist China for the United States when the book ends there is no possible way for
Lee to know or predict what his future holds and so I want you to keep that in mind as we go through what is going to be one of the most remarkably difficult childhoods that you and I have ever studied together and so the book starts with Lee Lou when he's in preschool and
I need to tell you up front this book is really hard to find there's only two copies available on Amazon right now one is for sale for like $300 the other for $600 so I need to to think Kenny Lee and my friend Moses Kagan Kenny lent this book to my friend Moses and then he
allowed Moses to send the book to me which in turn allows me to make this podcast for you so let's go ahead and jump into this unbelievable story The Last three-year-old besides myself was crying in the big room of the kindergarten a boarding school for preschoolers but soon even he would go
and I would be left all alone and then the hunger I dreamt of eating lizard meat the only thing I could do was drink water to fill my stomach so so full that it hurt and made me briefly forget about my hunger and so at this boarding school this kindergarten Lee is the only one
without a family so he's the only one that doesn't go home so imagine he's probably four or 5 years old and every weekend all the other kids get to go home Lee cannot go home and we'll find out why he can't go home he go he's going to be in like nine different I
think he moves around nine different times by the time he's nine years old so it says the other kids had come back and would show off the goodies they had brought from home they talked about the movies they had seen or the stories they had heard from their parents and so from
the very beginning Lee understands how different his life is from his classmates I was scrawny I wear the same jacket and pants all year round my clothes were covered with holes and patches I was always dirty and so immediately he starts to get bullied by his entire class they somehow had
learned that my parents were people with problems your father's a spy and your mother's a landlord's daughter remember this is communist China you're nothing but a bastard the children would start to chant bastard bastard nobody picks you up bastard Bast bastard nobody picks
you up my kindergarten was like a prison every day we got up dressed quickly and washed then the whistle blew and we lined up to go to the dining room then we sat at the long tables with our hands behind our backs the teacher made a speech the big kids would then recite
some of chairman Ma's quotations the teachers would control the children by making them hate each other by encouraging factions that was what you could do when you had Authority the teachers beat the children with what ever was at hand fly swats or sticks and a bamboo switch at meals we had to sit
still while the teacher put the food in our bowls if you ate too fast you would be hit and you had to eat everything I was scared to death and so throughout this entire book there's multiple examples of Lee being different from everybody else around him and so at this
time there's when he said I dreamt of eating lizard meat it's because at this boarding school they were overrun with these giant lizards and all the other kids said if the lizard touch you they're poisonous and they'll kill you and so this Collective brainwashing is a major theme throughout the book and so
instead of actually looking in is what we're being told true all the other kids just accepted it but Lee did not and so one time he had a bunch of lizards come on top like they they called all over him and he's like well nothing happened there was no poison and this is the
result my courage grew I was no longer afraid of lizards gradually I grew in confidence gradually I realized that the most important thing was confidence if you had conf confidence and believed you were right you would feel stronger and so that's the first indication of an
important part of his personality is like I want to seek the truth I he's intensely curious he wants to gather information and have an accurate reading on the world and he is a fighter and so there's other kids in the same grade that are given Authority by the teachers
and they're called uh officials there's a first second and third official and they typically bully and try to intimidate the other kids and this is what happens when they try to do that to Lee the first official swaggered over to me clenching his fist but I was prepared and hit him first knocking him to the
ground which completely crushed his position as the number one leader the second and third officials looked at each other and then ran away this greatly enhanced the status that Lee had with his other kids in our small Society I Rose from the very bottom right to the top yet I retained a deep sense of
inferiority from my lack of contact with the outside world wait till he learns how to read that changes his entire life because at this point he's completely thinking about it he has no family no money no resources of any time of any kind doesn't leave he's the only child
not to leave the walls of the kindergarten everything he does everything he learns is completely controlled by others he has no idea what's going on with the outside world and you see right from the very beginning he develops these instincts and these these skills that become very
valuable if you want to be an investor right when other children were talking about what they saw and heard on Saturday night and Sunday I felt inferior I had no way of acquiring information I had had no home no one to take me out no food so what does he do
when the kids come back they usually the little kids are like bragging like I saw this movie and I ate this he starts asking questions and changing just these sessions of people bragging about what they did for the weekend as a way for him to learn I had to ask detail
questions to understand a story and often interrupted the Storyteller I developed a keen sense of imitation narration and Imagination I had a great thirst for knowledge my inquisitiveness and Imagination came from my shut up life these questions and answering sessions
is the only way that he got information about the outside world that I had never seen so when he is 6 years old he's actually attacked by a giant swarm of hornets and his response to this gives you an insight into his personality says the more violently the Hornets attacked
me the stronger my will was to fight them eventually he collapses and is taken to the hospital and then it's at this point that we first get his introduction to his biological father a week after I left the hospital my father came to collect me we can't keep the child any longer said the head of the
kindergarten when we agreed to take him we were doing you a favor we would not normally accept a child of such terrible family background my father carried me away on his bicycle they can do and he's talking about the government of China at this point they can do anything to you
if your background is bad my mother was from a landowning family and that's bad my father listened to a foreign broadcast on the radio and someone overheard it so they accused him of being a spy that's even worse since the cult Revolution all intellectuals have
been considered useless my parents who had gone to universities were put into the lowest category shortly after I was born my parents had to send me to Foster families and then I went to that kindergarten even now my parents couldn't keep me they were both under political attack and couldn't even have
a Home of Their Own my father took me to live with da pa so that translates to big dad which is what you and I will call him big dad and then big mom and their six children my father and big dad had met in the coal mines big dad is a true friend to leelu's biological father
and he agrees to take him in even though he has six Sons and a wife to support they live in a tiny little two room Shack I guess is what you would call it they had very little money to the point where the all their clothes including Lulu's had to be had to be made by big
mom and the kids had to go out in the street and work they were they had to to feed themselves they had to raise their own chickens and so they would go including lelu and the other Sons would go out in the streets picking up tree branches for firewood and collecting thrown away cabbage for the chickens he
is in a terrible environment for anybody much less a six-year-old and so a lot of the neighbors are impoverished there's a lot of drinking one of their neighbors is drunk all the time he beats on his wife there is all kinds of violence and so there's a fight that breaks out and
during this fight somebody tells Lee that your father is a spy and so this part is absolutely heartbreaking imagine a six-year-old saying this to you after the fight big dad punished all of his sons except me I cried and asked him aren't you my dad why did they say my
dad is a spy are you a spy big dad said I am your dad just ignore what they said but there's this other man leelu says I also call him PA I said who is he is he a spy he had spent so little time with his biological dad he doesn't he's not even sure who his father
is big dad sighed and said don't think about it child you stay here nobody can do anything to you if anyone wants to bully you you have me here I felt pained at my heart and then another main theme of the book is the fact that humans if they put into a position of power and
authority will usually abuse that he's constantly seeing the contradiction and the hypocrisy between what the state is telling them and what actually happens and so there's a family in the community called the zangs and he says when I think of the zangs I think of true evil
so these are people living in the neighborhoods but they have close relationships with the government and so they call them the director of the neighborhood committee and so the government sends the directors of the neighborhood committee ration tickets ration tickets were required to buy such
things as meat fish and vegetables but if the zangs did not like you they could simply tell you that they didn't get enough tickets from the district government and essentially starve you they also had close connections with the local police which gave them further
power and this is his description of Aunt Zang she was cold and cruel and always found a way to hurt people and so the neighborhood he's growing up in is inhabited it's really close to the coal mines it's inhabited by mine work Coal Mine Workers that's what big dad does he
says one day there had been an explosion in the mine dozens of miners were trapped big ma looked stunned her husband was among the dozens of miners stuck down there so big Ma and lelu go to the mines and this is what happens we saw about 10 miners emerge pushing carts
on the carts were bodies we found big dad on a cart his face was blue his mouth nose and ears full of coal he was cold and hard big ma collapsed this family had lost its pillar and so did lelu remember his his dad he thinks this his dad said don't worry I will protect you I am here for you the family had
lost its pillar what would they do now a family of six children and a mother the family collapsed we had nothing left very soon the family had nothing to eat I could no longer stay with them think about that that's an entire story in four sentences everything I'm reading to you happens over many many
pages but those four sentences tell you an entire story The Family collapsed we had nothing left very soon the family had nothing to eat I could no longer stay with them remember big Ma and her six Sons we'll go back to them in about 3 years from now now he's about 7 or 8
years old when this is happening his parents are being quote unquote rehabilitated by the Chinese government and so for the very first time he's going to live with his parents they live together in a single small room no bigger than a room in a student dormatory is the way that lelu describes
this my family finally had space of its own every few weeks my mother would come in from the commune where she's living and working and I guess being rehabilitated and we would get together I called the days when we were together the day I have a home but I felt awkward
with my parents they were strangers to me and so Lee does the math for us he says by the time he's almost nine I had lived with at least nine families and this is the beginning of this intense desire to learn to learn how to read and to make money so he can support himself
and the people he loves I felt Superfluous being shunted from house to house and gradually inferior perhaps the world did not welcome me I wanted to grow up fast so I could make money and support big ma one day my father's Institute told him that he'd be sent away for six months my mother was still
living in the Orchid commune and none of my parents' friends could take me in any longer and he is saved by the generosity he's got a of a teacher he's got a a bunch of atrocious teachers but he's got a few that have great hearts and that actually care about him and want to
teach them and help them one day at my school teacher Wang said to me I hear you're leaving us do you still want to learn to read and write I told her I want to study she said you cannot leave here you can live in my home if your family cannot take care of you and this
is going to be one of the most important sentences of the book because it's going to be the foundation upon which his future wildly wildly successful career is going to rest upon I had begun to love reading and yet in every new environment he finds the same reoccurring theme that those in
Authority that those in power routinely abuse the people that they have power control and dominion over and so there's this kid in the neighborhood called fatty Fatty's father was the chief of the Bureau of electricity so he's a very important person and fatty is a bully
and Lee is a fighter and so when Lee sees fatty beating up a girl this is what happens fatty was Furious dragging the girl Along by her hair she screamed in pain so I went up to fatty slapped his face and said let go of her I bit his hand I seized a stone and began
hitting him on the head fatty had hardly expected a skinny boy like me to fight so fiercely and effectively and since Fatty's family is powerful they try to take revenge against the family of the teacher that's letting Lee stay there he has to go and apologize even though he
doesn't want to and he says I felt like a jinx wherever I went bad luck followed in despair I cried I said in my heart wait till I grow up fatty see how I will settle accounts with you it seemed that my childhood was over I was no longer Carefree I lost all interesting games I
wanted to to see and learn so many things I started to observe study and understand people I became more and more reserved and introverted and so what he's describing is he did not have the luxury of a childhood he was forced to grow up fast and somehow his life continues to get even worse leelu
survives the 1976 Tang Shan earthquake the Tang Shan earthquake is the deadliest earthquake in human history over 300,000 people are going to die the earthquake was so loud and Powerful that in its immediate aftermath everybody in the neighborhood thought that the atomic bomb had been
dropped on them it's completely dark when it happened there's no electricity and Lee is running for his life and he says suddenly I tripped over something my hand touched something fleshy it was a severed arm I blacked out and fainted he wakes up I looked around in the
daylight all the buildings were gone I ran as fast as I could towards the place where big Ma and her family had lived their house had caved in but the roof survived someone had dug a hole in the roof to look inside when I looked down through the hole I saw six pairs of blue
and black legs lying there all their upper bodies were crushed under the roof the last time I seen legs of such color was when big dad died as soon as I saw them I almost blacked out the heads of big Ma and the children had been crushed their brains were everywhere big ma was
kneeling over the two little ones when the earthquake came she must have knelt over their heads to protect them with her back now whenever I think about mothers I think of big ma kneeling over the children he is 10 years old when this is happening so the entire town gone so he
is sent to go live with his mother at the commune at the orchard Orchard commune that she's at and we see the same thing the people in power they preach equality we're all the same and yet they do everything in their power to live differently than everybody else life at the orchard commune where I had
gone with my mother and brother appeared peaceful and balanced everyone seemed to be eating and drinking like anyone else but behind the facade the crude inequality made me Furious the party secretary had set up a separate tent for his own family the cook prepared food
separately for his family the secretary's family had better food because all of the relief goods were sent to him first they considered these relief supplies to be their own property the party leadership had said that we're all the same that we should never take a piece of thread that was the public
property that we must be honest he is realizing that they are all brainwashed that the official propaganda does not match the reality on the ground he sees this over and over and over again during his young life and listen to how they describ the death of their leader this
is when chairman Mau was going to die while he's in school one day the loudspeaker which had been silent for weeks suddenly came to life now important news is to be announced Ed now important news is to be announced this one sentence was repeated for half an hour and then finally a heavy voice
spoke the great leader of the Chinese people the founder of the Chinese Communist Party the great teacher of the revolution of the world the Red Son in in the hearts of the Chinese people the chairman of the Chinese Communist party and the chairman of the party military
committee comrade Mau passed away due to an incurable disease and he details the reaction to the people around him they're crying and mourning it's like you would you would expect their reaction is like almost if your child had died the government had complete control over the flow of
information and the kids were indoctrinated and brainwashed before they could even read and so at this point in his life he's back to living with his mom and his dad in this like tiny little Shack and says winter was coming nothing was more important than acquiring a warm house and so in order
not to freeze to death they have to build this thing called a Kang also known as a Kang bed stove so this is a traditional heated platform used for sleeping in the northern part of China where the winter climate is very cold and so other people in the community
realized that Lee's dad is very good at building these Kings and so they come to him and ask him for help my father became well known in the area as an expert King maker every day people came to ask him for help I was enchanted by my father he was like an enigma a riddle
to me before the earthquake I had never lived with my parents as a real member of the family for very long so these trips with my father to build the king helped me understand him better everywhere he went went people praised him he was good at everything I began to be proud of him he was a First Rate
brick layer an excellent house Builder and an expert in building Kang and so it's during this time that he's living with his mom and dad that he finds insight into their past lives and why they were ostracized and why he was sent away and so he finds this suitcase full
of pictures and writing he says I found pictures of foreign architecture Bridges churches and people in strange costumes I saw pictures of a young man with glass is wearing a white Western suit he looks so elegant and handsome there were several photos of that same young man
rowing a boat or hunting with a gun the more I looked the more mysterious I found the people and places in the photos and the more excited I became then it dawned on me that the young man was my father I told my parents of the small suitcase with the many strange
things in it hearing this my mother became very nervous how could you look at those things you were only a child she was so nervous my father's response was different he said calmly what of it If the child is interested in those things let him look at them didn't the
Cultural Revolution end and so for the first time in his life Lee is now getting the information he needs to understand what was happening to him so he talks about the fact that they studied abroad that those a lot of those pictures came from the Soviet Union they
told us about their childhood their courtship my father came back from studying the Soviet Union my mother talked about her life and the fact that intellectuals which his mother was one were sent to do farmw work as some form of ideological remolding the life they describ seems so different from from
mine it was a mystery to me they were proud of their life in the 1950s it sounded like another world I felt I could learn a lot from them from that night I felt I had a home a father and mother I felt I had a history and a goal and so this is where we see the Lee's intense intense dedication to
learning to reading it's going to serve him wonderfully in his future career in fact there's the great uh Financial Times article about Lee I actually might do another episode on Lee after this but it says Lee's Mantra became accurate and complete information I'm reading from
the Financial Times article right now Le's maner became accurate and complete information complete sometimes meant going to extraordinary lengths to get a read on the CEO of a company being researched by Himalaya Capital management such as attending their
church or talking to their neighbors this is why biographies are so important why understanding the early life of somebody is so fundamental to understanding why they do the things they do why the way the way they are there is a talk about this so I also watch this he he gives lecture at
Columbia business school Lee gives his lecture in like 2006 a big part of the lecture is Lee absolutely admonishing these are Columbia MBA students and Lee is lighting them up about how unprepared they are they're couldn't be more of a stark contrast between the
unpreparedness of these Columbia MBA students with the way the Lee conducts research and runs his company and why it is learning it is reading it is working ethic that saved Lee's life if you grew up like he did you have two options find a way out or perish and so at this point
in the story his dad is giving him the map of a way out you look so happy these days father why yes he said I'm happy the national college entrance exams have resumed I asked what is a college entrance exam he said any young person who wants to enter college has to pass
an exam it's kind of a competition what is a competition I asked competition means you work hard and Society will give you a reward I still didn't quite understand it is competition a good thing of course it is he said little Lou you should work hard to prepare for your future go to college and study hard he
said now I remember this talk and the last sentence repeated itself constantly I now knew what I wanted to do I want to go to college I had found my road to Paradise I kept saying to myself I want to go to college I want to study this book is going to end with the
Tian Square massacre and Lee literally being on the run from the Chinese government he's put on the list I think of like the top 21 Most Wanted student leaders for the tnm and square demonstrations and protests and everything they did some of them did not escape to other places like Lee was able
to and as a result they spent N9 years in prison 13 years in prison in China and so when Lee tells you in the book right now I found my road to Paradise I kept saying to myself I want to go to college I want to study he moves to the United States he can't speak English he
learns English in a summer and he becomes one of the first people in Colombia's school history to receive three degrees simultaneously he gets a ba in economics an MBA and a JD so it makes perfect sense with what we've gone over so far in the book with what you know about his background and then you
go watch that lecture that he did at Columbia business school and he is lighting them up he cannot believe how unprepared they are there's a scene in a movie I think about very often there's this movie called seven with Morgan Freeman and Brad Pit and there's a scene
in the movie where Morgan Freeman is let into a library late at night by some security guards he's there to do some research the security guards are sitting upstairs and instead of reading or learning or trying to improve what they know about the world they just sit in an empty library at night and they sit
around playing poker and Morgan Freeman the character that Morgan Freeman plays puts down his hat and says gentlemen I'll never understand you all these books the world of knowledge at your fingertips and what do you do you sit around and play poker all night I think
of that scene when I watch Lee's lecture to the Columbia MBA students and I think of that scene because Lee's response is the exact opposite so there's more than 100,000 school children that take part in this competition and Lee comes in fourth in composition sixth in oration
and among the first 20 in math around this time he's reunited with his grandmother his grandmother he says was one of the first people to encourag me she declared to everyone that I was no ordinary child she in in a previous life had been the Principal of a school and
part of the legis the local government legislative committee and for that she was sent to 20 years in prison and so at the school he's at he winds up meeting this woman he says the woman on crutch has told me that she worked in the school's new library come and see the
library it astonished me to see so many books all at once thousands of them I had never seen so many books in my life before in books listen to how he describes this impact remember this is a a person that just Str unbelievable struggle and Devastation for the first
you know 12 15 years of his entire life very limited view on the outside world and this is where he realizes books is his way out in books I can travel to every corner of the world and communicate with the people there I would read all day long as I was doing research for this episode I came across
this wonderful quote by Charlie Munger that I think Lee would agree with Charlie says as long as I have a book in my hand I don't feel like I'm wasting my time here's another thing that Lee now think how crazy this is this is why I started with that story of Charlie Monger at the very beginning of the
discussion that you you and I are having the the version of leelu that's writing these words that you and I are going over does not know Charlie Munger doesn't know of his existence sure as hell doesn't know that he's going to in the future have a your partnership with
them listen to what Lee that version of Lee is describing this this unfettered access to a library what that's doing for him most of the friends I made in books Charlie says reading biographies means you're making friends with the eminent dead they describe it the exact
same way that blew my mind so this reading continues into what he calls senior middle school which I think is like our version of high school in America and so he's reading biographies specifically he's reading about biographies of scientists so he's reading uh the Adam in my family which
is by enrio ferm's wife which tells this the life story of her husband and he's also reading about Albert Einstein and Albert Einstein and his Olympia Club so he goes oh I think we should have a Chinese Olympia Club to read and discuss the problems of Our Generation its
development the reforms and China and its future so this group would read and write and meet it says the group met for the first time and we decided to call it stream because both of our quietness and persistence would flow like a stream this group must be kept secret because the present educational system
suppressed human nature students were slaves and teachers were gods and so you were not allowed to question them you were not allowed to question is what you're being told true and so one of his teachers that take a liking to Lee realizes that you have to get out of
China David ogy has this great quote where he says Talent is most likely to be found among non-conformist denters and Rebels Lee is definitely a non-conformist a denter and a rebel that's very dangerous in China and so originally Lee is studying physics he eventually changes to economics but his
teacher tells him you have talents in physics but you cannot study here in China you should go to the United States study and research need an atmosphere of free inquiry and so as this conversation continues you realize that his teacher is giving him great advice that he did
not follow he had a tremendous variety of books and magazines but why should he still be reading when he was already so well read Lee didn't understand and this is something Lee talks about the compounding nature of knowledge uh so he says one night he told me a story I was
born in a peasant family in a remote Village this is going to sound like Lee's life story I was born in a peasant family in a remote Village for Generations my family tilled the land the only thing I could offer was my youth and vigor I could work hard and study well so I only slept four or 5
hours a day and I read continuously though I was in a remote Village I spent all my money on books I realized there was another world outside this one he sighed in our country what you like what you want to do and what you get to do are all different hence why he's telling
me to go to United States each one of us is but a small part of a big machine in society only those who have power can decide what role each of us can play in the machine and Lee is very similar to this teacher he like you know all I had was Youth and vigor I could work hard
and study well so I'm just going to dedicate my life and really go after it and we see that Lee does the same thing I drew Drew up a detailed plan for myself there were 3 months left before they exam every morning I got up at 4:45 from 5: until 6:00 I studied for an hour
from 6:00 until 6:30 I ran to school as exercise and then reviewed what I had studied in the previous hour I then stayed at school all day at 9:30 I ran home 9:30 p.m. that is reviewing the day's study at home I ate something and worked until midnight my desire to meet
the challenge grew I knew that I would pass soon the results were announced for each school I was fifth in my school and I knew I would get into a good University so that is the end of the first half of the book I recommend if you can get a copy your hands on a copy of the book definitely read the first
half of the book up until he goes to college the second half is about becoming much more politically active and then it ends with the TN and Square massacre and Lee having to flee for his life so I'm going to pick it up right there television radio and ubiquitous
loudspeakers all kept repeating citizens of Beijing stay in your homes tonight students return to your colleges the Army is going to clear out tenan square tonight citizens of Beijing stay in your homes tonight I saw the Army start to March towards the square people tried to
stop them with their bodies soldiers pushed their way forward bayonets raised a girl student from Beijing University went up to the soldiers and said the students aren't riers but Patriots a soldier thrust his bayonet into her chest and she fell down dead people ran
over to her the tanks kept coming and coming an open fire everywhere people were dropping people could not believe that the government could have shot at its own people the tanks never stopped and they ran over the bodies the soldiers were mad they killed whoever was in their way hundreds of armed
soldiers charged the crowd gunshots created chaos the north side of the square was a sea of fire dozens of Tanks entered the square all the tents were being smashed under them there were still hundreds of people in them they had gone to sleep thinking the worst
would be that the police would haul them on to a bus and send them back to college now they were being ground to Pieces people shouted names parents trying to find their sons and daughters my mind became Stone only one thought was chiseled on it why am I still alive and so now everybody's fleeing and
trying to run for T square and Lee says over the next few days I stayed at a different place each night the government put my name on the list of wanted people our descriptions were issued to customs Railway stations bus stations neighborhood committees our photos were posted all over the country
and shown on television and so this time Hong Kong is still a British colony so Lee actually uses a smuggling route that was established to bring Contraband of Western goods from Hong Kong and so he uses that route to escape China and he describes the last day in China
Dawn was approaching I came out of the basement and took a deep breath I would not go to prison I would Escape I looked back on my life so far I had grown from an unwanted child to a fighter in tinan square and now I was a criminal wanted by the government I had experienced
oppression and rebelled against it I didn't want to give in I wanted to escape I didn't know what kind of Life awaited me I just knew that I was on my way that is how the book ends this is when he starts a new life in New York at 23 years old 23-year-old leelu had no
idea couldn't possibly have known what lay ahead in his future highly recommend reading the book if you can get a copy of the book I will leave a link down below if you buy the book using that link you'll be supporting the podcast at the same time I'm in the process of
doing research on another lelu episode this all about how he thinks about investing and Company building what he learned from Buffett Ander if I can get enough material to make an episode that's worthy of your time that'll the next episode I do but in the meantime that is 362 books down 1,000 to go